Bush's Approval Rating ***2%*** Among Blacks

That's about the percentage, 12%, that voted for him in the first place.

If blacks feel slighted they have no one to blame but themselves. Who panders and caters to a group that isn't going to support you no matter what you say, do or offer them?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']That's about the percentage, 12%, that voted for him in the first place.

If blacks feel slighted they have no one to blame but themselves. Who panders and caters to a group that isn't going to support you no matter what you say, do or offer them?[/QUOTE]

That's quite the self-fulfilling prophecy, don't you think?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']That's about the percentage, 12%, that voted for him in the first place.

If blacks feel slighted they have no one to blame but themselves. Who panders and caters to a group that isn't going to support you no matter what you say, do or offer them?[/QUOTE]

The 10% that did vote for him and have changed their opinions now must feel like fools.

The 2% who still support him are fools (or Condaleeza).
 
Politically why shouldn't blacks be written off by Republicans? Now I'm asking a rhetorical here. I know there are tons of outreach efforts, that many blacks are disillusioned with Democrats but see Republicans as an unviable alternative.

However when you've given 90% of your "group" (Which I don't subscribe to any one ethnic group being monolithic.) vote to the same group for 40 years with no improvement in your poverty rates, your illegitimacy rates have soared, drugs have decimated once proud and vibrant communites while under the stewardship of numerous Democratic mayors and governors you have to wonder why blacks continue to vote the way they do. They buy the same lies year after year and decade after decade from their unelected public leadership (Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan) and their pandering representatives in Congress that spout the same lines of poverty pimping and race baiting that not even the Klan matches in vitriol.

Oh well, I got way OT. Want to know what "real" blacks think of Colin Powell, Condeleeza Rice and Clarence Thomas? They're referred to as house $$$$$$s, Uncle Toms and sell outs.

That's what a black becoming a success in mainstream America makes you to "real" blacks.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']If blacks feel slighted they have no one to blame but themselves.[/QUOTE]

Democrats and liberals will have no one to blame but themselves when they don't support the government that decides to barcode and send them to camps of one order or another.

So, right now, the government seems to screw blacks as well as poor urban whites/minorities over on a regular basis. Blacks and poor whites/minorities didn't support the current administration. These are both undeniably true. However, it's specious to believe had they supported the republican party things would be different for them. I seriously doubt that the prez had much in the way of reform to help these groups whether or not they voted for him.
 
Dude, these claims of barcoding and camps makes you one thing. A far off left wing moonbat. How on Earth do you expect ANYONE to take you seriously?

Camoor, the Democratic party of yesterday is the Democratic party of today. In fact the Democratic party of yesterday was full of segregationists that didn't want to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You know, Democrats like the Distinguished Gentleman from Tennessee, Albert Gore Sr and Bill Clinton's political idol William Fulbright. Yes, Clinton's political idol was a segregationist.

The government in general keeps the poor poor. This isn't party issue but government issue. As in, if you better yourself you're thrown out of Section 8 housing the month you cross the income maximum, giving disincentive to ever make more money. I could list more and more examples but the tone of government handouts and help is... make more, you're screwed, you don't get any more, you have no transition period! So stay poor, don't try and keep voting for "us".
 
Camoor, the Democratic party of yesterday is the Democratic party of today. In fact the Democratic party of yesterday was full of segregationists that didn't want to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You know, Democrats like the Distinguished Gentleman from Tennessee, Albert Gore Sr.
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Wait, so they democratic party is currently filled with segregationists? I don't think even rush goes that far.

But, they also were the ones supporting the civil rights act as well, it's the "dixiecrats" that opposed it. Here's a breakdown based on north and south:
The Original House Version:

Southern Democrats: 7-87
Southern Republicans: 0-10
Northern Democrats: 145-9
Northern Republicans: 138-24
The Senate Version:

Southern Democrats: 1-21
Southern Republicans: 0-1
Northern Democrats: 46-1
Northern Republicans: 27-5
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

In both cases, when broken down to north and south, a higher percentage of northern democrats voted for it, and a higher percentage of southern democrats voted for it, compared with the regional republican counterparts. Also, the passing of this bill helped turn the south in republican territory.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Dude, these claims of barcoding and camps makes you one thing. A far off left wing moonbat. How on Earth do you expect ANYONE to take you seriously?[/QUOTE]

Or, it's satirical hyperbole, and it was presented to bring the point that "not supporting a party that has screwed you over does not make it your fault".

I guess your problem may be that you don't know what to believe, so you just believe whatever supports your point.

"Enough research tends to support your theory"
-Murphy's Law
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Camoor, the Democratic party of yesterday is the Democratic party of today. In fact the Democratic party of yesterday was full of segregationists that didn't want to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You know, Democrats like the Distinguished Gentleman from Tennessee, Albert Gore Sr and Bill Clinton's political idol William Fulbright. Yes, Clinton's political idol was a segregationist.[/quote]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...103-4611851-9361443?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

That ol' breakup song exists for a reason; likewise, growing southern disdain for Democrats is precisely because they have moved away from the "dixiecrat" typecast.

The government in general keeps the poor poor. This isn't party issue but government issue. As in, if you better yourself you're thrown out of Section 8 housing the month you cross the income maximum, giving disincentive to ever make more money. I could list more and more examples but the tone of government handouts and help is... make more, you're screwed, you don't get any more, you have no transition period! So stay poor, don't try and keep voting for "us".
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Meh. You'll never have empirical evidence to support such claims; on the other hand, I have a list of about 80 texts sitting under my left elbow that point to job relocation, increased automation, more job relocation, and racist hiring practices (all prior to the civil rights act, to be sure, but not exclusively so) that did a pretty good job of keeping blacks down without any help from the government. Perhaps you can live in a world where 36% average unemployment and a 33% probability of incarceration is the result of aggregate individual choice; me? I'm a quantoid. That's as much the result of chance as me wearing pants today.
 
Yeah, there's a 1 in 3 chance that just by being black someone will come along, arrest you, put you on trial and then throw you in jail :roll:.

You want to know why there's 36% unemployement? You ever listen to the ebonics that passes for English? You want to know the graduation rates for blacks? You want to address how local government conspires, yes conspires, with teacher's unions to ever have any standards or competency measurements for educators? Or how they force kids to stay in failing schools where despite spending that exceeds $10,000 per head can't teach kids or graduate them with even 7th or 8th grade reading or mathematical skills? Or how about the 65%+ illegitimacy rate that no black leader, elected or otherwise, will tackle seriously?

You know there's millions of immigrants that have come to these shores in the last 30 years that have blown past blacks in nearly every statistical analysis of education, wealth, employment and have next to non-existent incarceration, unemployment and illegitimacy rates. Now why is that? How is it that people can come here and succeed wildly yet those that have been here and free for 140 years and had full equal standing for nearly 50 years still think they need to be cared for by government programs?
 
Katharine Bradbury, V.P. and economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, writing in 2000, observed this about the Clinton years: "What started in mid 1991 as the 'jobless recovery' has become the 'how-can-unemployment-stay-so-low? expansion.'... Nonetheless, jobless rates for blacks remain noticeably higher than those for whites... [T]o what degree are black men and women participating in the current prosperity by seeing their unemployment rates fall closer to the rates of whites?"

Indeed, all policy efforts to reduce gaps between races and sexes have failed from Presidents Johnson to Clinton, while politicos and economists pontificate endlessly about what do to reduce said gaps. Now, conservative commentator and economic analyst Jerry Bowyer argues that the way to reduce those black/white gaps was to, well, elect and re-elect George W. Bush. As Bowyer points out, "The current black unemployment rate is at its lowest point since the recession year of 2001. Black unemployment is also lower than the average for the Clinton years. It is lower than the average of the past 15 years. It's also considerably lower than the 30-year average, which is about as far back as this particular statistic goes."

DAMN that GWB, keeping the black man down! The rabblerousing and racebaiting of Jesse jackson, Farrakhan, and all the other 'black leaders'; and the fact that the black community still has the largest proportion of the population who don't do these three things: "finish school, get a job, get married/stay married [if you have kids]"; those things have nothing to do with it.

Opinion polls are opinion polls, they can say virtually whatever the polltaker wants them to; but facts are facts.
Certainly racism still exists--there are bigots of all colors and stripes in society today, I won't deny that. But widespread active governmental racism is pretty much non-existent, I think.
 
That's only black people poll =p. Doesn't reflect the whole country. This is all Kayne West's fault. Bush luvs the black people, man u people ignant
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Yeah, there's a 1 in 3 chance that just by being black someone will come along, arrest you, put you on trial and then throw you in jail :roll:.

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It's funny that they have higher conviction rates. It also odd how often police are accused of racist behavior by other police, studies etc.

You know there's millions of immigrants that have come to these shores in the last 30 years that have blown past blacks in nearly every statistical analysis of education, wealth, employment and have next to non-existent incarceration, unemployment and illegitimacy rates. Now why is that? How is it that people can come here and succeed wildly yet those that have been here and free for 140 years and had full equal standing for nearly 50 years still think they need to be cared for by government programs?
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The level of discrimination is higher for blacks than any other. Racism against any other group was never as prominent as it was/is for blacks. And institutionalized past racism can have effects reaching far into the future.
 
[quote name='dtcarson']Katharine Bradbury, V.P. and economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, writing in 2000, observed this about the Clinton years: "What started in mid 1991 as the 'jobless recovery' has become the 'how-can-unemployment-stay-so-low? expansion.'... Nonetheless, jobless rates for blacks remain noticeably higher than those for whites... [T]o what degree are black men and women participating in the current prosperity by seeing their unemployment rates fall closer to the rates of whites?"

Indeed, all policy efforts to reduce gaps between races and sexes have failed from Presidents Johnson to Clinton, while politicos and economists pontificate endlessly about what do to reduce said gaps. Now, conservative commentator and economic analyst Jerry Bowyer argues that the way to reduce those black/white gaps was to, well, elect and re-elect George W. Bush. As Bowyer points out, "The current black unemployment rate is at its lowest point since the recession year of 2001. Black unemployment is also lower than the average for the Clinton years. It is lower than the average of the past 15 years. It's also considerably lower than the 30-year average, which is about as far back as this particular statistic goes."

DAMN that GWB, keeping the black man down! The rabblerousing and racebaiting of Jesse jackson, Farrakhan, and all the other 'black leaders'; and the fact that the black community still has the largest proportion of the population who don't do these three things: "finish school, get a job, get married/stay married [if you have kids]"; those things have nothing to do with it.

Opinion polls are opinion polls, they can say virtually whatever the polltaker wants them to; but facts are facts.
Certainly racism still exists--there are bigots of all colors and stripes in society today, I won't deny that. But widespread active governmental racism is pretty much non-existent, I think.[/QUOTE]

Clinton took over when black unemployment was exceptionally high, by 1999 and 2000 it was down to about 7%. And poverty rates were at all time lows in 2000.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I've said my peace. If others want to keep chattering away that's fine. Arguing race amongst white people and a dozen liberals is pointless.[/QUOTE]

Good to see you reinforced that "race" means "black" when people talk about it in a coded manner.

You can talk about how wonderful blacks have had it in the United States since the late 19th century, but perhaps you can point out to me a *single* period in American history where a black person, any black person, has had as much of a chance as me, a white person, at getting a job, or perhaps housing, or acceptance into a school?
 
I can tell you that Vietnamese, Koreans, Thais, Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese, Laotians, Egyptians, Lebanese and Cambodians have all come here in great numbers and surpassed blacks in employment, wealth building, school acceptance rates while having lower unemployment, incarceration and illegitimacy rates. All the while coming here speaking little or no English, limited educational backgrounds in their native language, no money, no jobs and in many cases having nothing but the clothes on their backs. Then in half a generation they have become middle to upper middle class by working insane hours, in many cases as a family unit, become great citizens and made their kids the envy of the academic world amongst their peers. How many times have you been in a math or science class on the first day of school and then sighed in frustration that one of those kids just entered your section and is going to destroy the grading curve?

Yes, America is so unfair, so racist, so bigoted that people of varying skin color and languages, religions and nationalities can arrive with no English and blow citizens and native English speakers out of the water. Oh yeah, now the immigrants are keeping the black man down too.....
 
Strawman; you're comparing ethnic groups and races that exist in traditionally concentrated residential enclaves ("Chinatown" and the like) to a group of people whose status as citizens was revoked (Dred Scott), who were slaves for centuries, who were given poor to no education, who "got their own stuff" (Jim Crow), and who, through some strange reason, failed to acheive the concentration of success that others have. You're also comparing the single most socially scrutinized race against others who are often ignored (if you believe that other races "pass for white").

In short, apples and oranges. Your racism teems with your accusation that "ebonics" leads to poor employment rates; if only those damned jigaboos spoke the king's english, right?
 
Yo buss dis. I ain't noed why you would think English should be spoken properly, an shit. I can talk 'boutduckets, de law, medical terminology, accountin terms an' marketin skrategy wit any person out dere. I ain't need to rapp likes all yall else, all yall else needs to learn to rapp likes me. Sheeit!

Are you going to hire that?

I'd love to see where you've found Pakistani town, Indian town, Vietnamese town, Lebanese town, Laotianville, Koreaburgh or any other "enclave" for immigrants. Chinatowns exist from historical days in the mid to late 1800's when, like the Jews, Irish and Italians, no one would hire them, do business with them or welcome them into mainstream American business and life. The immigrants I see have made themselves mainstream with the American population.

So now again, it's the immigrants keeping the black man down huh?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Yo buss dis. I ain't noed why you would think English should be spoken properly, an shit. I can talk 'boutduckets, de law, medical terminology, accountin terms an' marketin skrategy wit any person out dere. I ain't need to rapp likes all yall else, all yall else needs to learn to rapp likes me. Sheeit!

Are you going to hire that?[/quote]

John Baugh found discrimination in hiring practices, even among those who spoke "middle class" english. You're being both obtuse and racist. Stop it.

I'd love to see where you've found Pakistani town, Indian town, Vietnamese town, Lebanese town, Laotianville, Koreaburgh or any other "enclave" for immigrants. Chinatowns exist from historical days in the mid to late 1800's when, like the Jews, Irish and Italians, no one would hire them, do business with them or welcome them into mainstream American business and life. The immigrants I see have made themselves mainstream with the American population.

So now again, it's the immigrants keeping the black man down huh?
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Show me where I said immigrants were responsible.
 
Places I've been- little india in toronto, little saigon in chicago, koreatown in toronto, chinatown in toronto (mentioned since it used to be filled with chinese, but now is predominantly vietnamese). In toronto, chinese immigrants (well, younger immigrants and children of immigrants) have essentially formed middle class chinese suburbs, filled with full scale chinese malls, dance clubs, strip malls, and huge chinese supermarkets. Oddly, the poorest section in toronto was the area with the highest amount of eastern europeans.

There's also a koreatown in LA, and a little pakistan in new york. There's more than I can't think of at the moment.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']John Baugh found discrimination in hiring practices, even among those who spoke "middle class" english. You're being both obtuse and racist. Stop it.
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STFU with calling me racist. I served in combat with 3 black sergeants, 5 privates and would have laid my life down for any of them. I've served under black colonels, majors and captains and you have no idea how much respect I've had for any single one of them. I've had promotions due to my ability to work with soldiers from any walk of life.

You have no fucking room to call me racist you dumb clueless swine. Take that shit and pack it back in your ass.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I'd love to see where you've found Pakistani town, Indian town, Vietnamese town, Lebanese town, Laotianville, Koreaburgh or any other "enclave" for immigrants. Chinatowns exist from historical days in the mid to late 1800's when, like the Jews, Irish and Italians, no one would hire them, do business with them or welcome them into mainstream American business and life. The immigrants I see have made themselves mainstream with the American population.

So now again, it's the immigrants keeping the black man down huh?[/QUOTE]

Just because a city isn't called "loatianville" doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Niles, Des Plaines and Park Ridge sit right next to each other in a suburb of Chicago. None of them have any sort of racetown type of name, yet it could conceivable be considered Little Russia, PolandVille and Little India, since they lived there in large numbers and concentrations.

Just because something doesn't jut out and hit you in the face doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']STFU with calling me racist. I served in combat with 3 black sergeants, 5 privates and would have laid my life down for any of them. I've served under black colonels, majors and captains and you have no idea how much respect I've had for any single one of them. I've had promotions due to my ability to work with soldiers from any walk of life.

You have no fucking room to call me racist you dumb clueless swine. Take that shit and pack it back in your ass.[/QUOTE]

Well, your use of nigga came across as borderline, depending on how it was interpreted. Though I wonder why you tried to say you were black a while ago. But, not discriminating doesn't mean you're not racist. And while you may be able to see individual blacks as equal, as a whole you may make prejudicial assumptions about that race.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark'] You have no fucking room to call me racist you dumb clueless swine. Take that shit and pack it back in your ass.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Yo buss dis. I ain't noed why you would think English should be spoken properly, an shit. I can talk 'boutduckets, de law, medical terminology, accountin terms an' marketin skrategy wit any person out dere. I ain't need to rapp likes all yall else, all yall else needs to learn to rapp likes me. Sheeit![/QUOTE]

I dare you to say that to any of the respected black people you served under and see how much respect they have for you.

Were you to translate that into non-ebonics english, do you think someone would get hired by saying that?
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']I dare you to say that to any of the respected black people you served under and see how much respect they have for you.[/QUOTE]

You should have heard what THEY said to the grunts that came into their outfits that spoke like that. My respect was earned and kept. Even if I did kid around with ebonics it was always done in humor with the people I did it with.

In answer to your question 'zo I was looking and using a couple of those script drive ebonics translators. I liked the second translation better than the first, it sounded more authentic. I didn't type any of that myself it was cut and paste.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']STFU with calling me racist. I served in combat with 3 black sergeants, 5 privates and would have laid my life down for any of them. I've served under black colonels, majors and captains and you have no idea how much respect I've had for any single one of them. I've had promotions due to my ability to work with soldiers from any walk of life.

You have no fucking room to call me racist you dumb clueless swine. Take that shit and pack it back in your ass.[/QUOTE]

Your individual anecdotes about three black people you showed rank-based deference to doesn't account for the fact that you have made blanket statements about them (in this thread and on this page, even) that exhibit nothing that can be excused as anything but racism (from your attack on "their" language/dialect to your implicit belief that individual behavior has caused unemployment and incarceration among black adult males to be 700% larger than comparable whites).

Regretfully, you are a racist.
 
Oh yeah, whatever mykey.

When you live in the real world outside the ivory tower of academia and have any gathering of what real life is like I'll put creedence in what you say. As it is you live and work with what, 95% white people? You know about race relations from your student handbook on sensitivity, maybe took one black studies course and listening to like minded people bragging about how much more superior than they are than anyone else because they know they're "sensitive" and "open minded."

Here's the perfect song for you mykey, it fits you to a fucking "T".

Holiday In Cambodia

So you been to school for a year or two
And you know you've seen it all
In daddy's car thinkin' you'll go far
Back east your type don't crawl
Play ethnicky jazz to parade your snazz
On your five grand stereo
Braggin that you know how the $$$$$$s feel cold
And the slums got so much soul

It's time to taste what you most fear
Right Guard will not help you here
Brace yourself, my dear

It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough kid, but it's life
It's a holiday in Cambodia
Don't forget to pack a wife

Your a star-belly sneech you suck like a leech
You want everyone to act like you
Kiss ass while you bitch so you can get rich
But your boss gets richer on you
Well you'll work harder with a gun in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Slave for soldiers til you starve
Then your head skewered on a stake
Now you can go where people are one
Now you can go where they get things done
What you need my son:

Is a holiday in Cambodia
Where people dress in black
A holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll kiss ass or crack

Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot [etc.]

And it's a holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll do what you're told
A holiday in Cambodia
Where the slums got so much soul
 
Translation for the rest of us:

PAD: HEY EVERYONE! LOOK OVER THERE! IT'S SOMETHING SHINY!!!

Everyone Else: What? I don't see nothin'! Now then, what the hell were we talking about?

PAD: How delicious doritos are. Mighty tasty, particularly the nacho ones!

EDIT: BTW, PAD, you're more than welcome to think what you want about me and my ivory tower; keep in mind that you're going to be dead wrong, but keep thinking what you want. It's probably funnier that way.
 
So, you can't even admit you have no real world experiecne with anyone but white academics who, like you, are eager to label, demean and criticize anyone for saying there's a pink elephant in the room.
 
Stop calling PAD racist for his racist remarks!

It makes him sad.

And we all know right wingers FEELINGS are more important than the truth.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']So, you can't even admit you have no real world experiecne with anyone but white academics who, like you, are eager to label, demean and criticize anyone for saying there's a pink elephant in the room.[/QUOTE]

No; I merely have realized that my experiences in the past don't mesh well with who I am currently. You think I'm nothing but a whitebread silver spoon prat who suffers from immeasurable pangs of liberal guilt-induced ulcers, and whose priveleged upbringing has kept me sheltered from the harsh reality that you have come to know.

Nothing I can say will change your opinion that this is me, correct? So why bother? I'd much rather go watch "Saw."
 
Yeah, me echoing and agreeing with Bill Cosby makes me a racist.

Feelings here are more important than truth. None of you want to deal with the truth about why blacks aren't succeeding in greater numbers. You all want feel good platitudes and don't even want to address what the true issues are.

Saw sucked.

I'm nothing but a whitebread silver spoon prat...

Mykey, you're not even good white bread. You're not that good French or Italian loaf bread you can smell blocks away at 7 in the morning. You're that over processed, over starched, over bleached 99 cent white bread that comes in cheap plastic bags used for making dozens of PB&J's at a local day care or bunched up in balls, wetted and thrown to stick to the ceiling of a school cafeteria. You're the kind of white bread no one craves or wants yet has to put up with because that's all that's being served.

You probably sit around debating the merits of supporting academic freedoms for the likes of Ward Churchill who lied and plagarised his way into his position but when it comes to conservative thought you turn on your blinding PC headlights and sirens trying to glare out and deafen the message or speaker. You deal with issues from one frame of mind and one frame of mind only.

While you are an extremely articulate and smart individual you see the world from one point of view while refusing to acknowledge any opposition to your held position holds any merit whatsoever. That makes you dangerous. While I can be egotistical, opinionated and pig headed you have seen the words "I was wrong." eminate from my posts and more than once.

In this argument you have done nothing but label and attempt to demean without acknowleding any truth of what I say. That's very PC mykey. They'll be so proud of you when you tell them this tale at the coffee shop tonight as you and your mates smoke your clove cigarettes. You showed the world how sensitive and understanding you were while completely ignoring obvious facts.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']You should have heard what THEY said to the grunts that came into their outfits that spoke like that. My respect was earned and kept. Even if I did kid around with ebonics it was always done in humor with the people I did it with.[/QUOTE]

Ahem, again you misinterpret a rather easy to understand sentence. Inform them that blacks aren't being hired because they say:

"Yo buss dis. I ain't noed why you would think English should be spoken properly, an shit. I can talk 'boutduckets, de law, medical terminology, accountin terms an' marketin skrategy wit any person out dere. I ain't need to rapp likes all yall else, all yall else needs to learn to rapp likes me. Sheeit!"

[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark'] In answer to your question 'zo I was looking and using a couple of those script drive ebonics translators. I liked the second translation better than the first, it sounded more authentic. I didn't type any of that myself it was cut and paste.[/QUOTE]

So, a white bread, clean cut man in an expensive suit comes in and says: "I don't need to rap like you. Shit, you need to rap like me". He's going to get hired?
 
Okay, from reading this thread I have determined that PAD is a semi-racist asshole. Please go away KTHXBYE.

As for the approval rating, it doesn't suprise me (well 2% does, but I believe the 12% one). It probably means about 12% of blacks are rich.
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']Okay, from reading this thread I have determined that PAD is a semi-racist asshole. Please go away KTHXBYE.[/QUOTE]

And we've concluded, yet again, that you bring nothing of substance to any conversation, have no apparent opinions or intellect and the only ability you've been able to demonstrate to date is to thread crap.

KTHNXBYE
 
[quote name='evanft']Every single Canadian black person I've ever met has spoken like a white person.[/QUOTE]

In canada, my university was over or at (can't remember) 50% visible minority. Full scale ebonics wasn't very popular, but I did hear it sometimes, though usually only when I went into downtown toronto. I did see a lot of people dressing like rappers though, especially off campus. The strangest part though was how common it was to see asians, particularly vietnamese, people dress like that. There is a big problem with vietnamese (being the newer and poorer asian immigrants there) gangs, particulalry in the jane-finch area (the most dangerous part of toronto). They look and act like typical black gang members you'd see here, except they're vietnamese. If they didn't want to buy from normal mall casual stores, it seems that poorer asian populations there are more likely to dress like blacks, and that wealthier ones are more likely to head out to the asian malls and buy clothes from china and hong kong. A lot of blacks did dress like rappers, but not as often. In canada, their immigrants and minorities are more assimilated (this is debatable depending on how you look at it) and have more upward social mobility, so there were less of the stereotypical "poor blacks", another factor would be that people dress nicer in toronto on average anyway (compared to other places I've been). Also, a significant percentage of black people, and I believe the majority of those I encountered at my university, were immigrants born in africa or elsewhere (such as jamaica). So that whole gangsta persona was probably foreign to them anyway.

The oddest moment though had to be seeing a sikh kid on campus, with a turban, wearing "bling bling" style jewelry and rap clothes.

edit: I just realized that I will use any excuse to talk about canada, especially toronto. Even more since I had to transfer to a local school for monetary reasons, which is about 5 percent minority (according to a website, 2% black, 3% hispanic, 1% asian and native), has minimal international students, has almost no foreign faculty (have yet to meet one, at least one who had an accent), and is a cultural wasteland.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']In canada, my university was over or at (can't remember) 50% visible minority. Full scale ebonics wasn't very popular, but I did hear it sometimes, though usually only when I went into downtown toronto. I did see a lot of people dressing like rappers though, especially off campus. The strangest part though was how common it was to see asians, particularly vietnamese, people dress like that. There is a big problem with vietnamese (being the newer and poorer asian immigrants there) gangs, particulalry in the jane-finch area (the most dangerous part of toronto). They look and act like typical black gang members you'd see here, except they're vietnamese. If they didn't want to buy from normal mall casual stores, it seems that poorer asian populations there are more likely to dress like blacks, and that wealthier ones are more likely to head out to the asian malls and buy clothes from china and hong kong. A lot of blacks did dress like rappers, but not as often. In canada, their immigrants and minorities are more assimilated (this is debatable depending on how you look at it) and have more upward social mobility, so there were less of the stereotypical "poor blacks", another factor would be that people dress nicer in toronto on average anyway (compared to other places I've been). Also, a significant percentage of black people, and I believe the majority of those I encountered at my university, were immigrants born in africa or elsewhere (such as jamaica). So that whole gangsta persona was probably foreign to them anyway.

The oddest moment though had to be seeing a sikh kid on campus, with a turban, wearing "bling bling" style jewelry and rap clothes.

edit: I just realized that I will use any excuse to talk about canada, especially toronto. Even more since I had to transfer to a local school for monetary reasons, which is about 5 percent minority (according to a website, 2% black, 3% hispanic, 1% asian and native), has minimal international students, has almost no foreign faculty, and is a cultural wasteland.[/QUOTE]

That's not the case at my school, since it's where all the chicagoland kids go. Blacks and Mexicans act stereotypically, however, that doesn't make me discount all people of a specific race, but just those that make it painfully obvious.

Also, gangs in Jamaica are extremely rampant, which is why murder rates are going up and poverty is going up. I doubt they're too foreign there.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']That's not the case at my school, since it's where all the chicagoland kids go. Blacks and Mexicans act stereotypically, however, that doesn't make me discount all people of a specific race, but just those that make it painfully obvious.

Also, gangs in Jamaica are extremely rampant, which is why murder rates are going up and poverty is going up. I doubt they're too foreign there.[/QUOTE]

Ya, but everytime I see pictures from jamaica they never really look like they're dressed like rappers. Most of the people were from africa, I just remember a few being from the caribbean. There was also one jamaican girl who was white, but had a strong jamaican accent. You always looked twice whenever she spoke.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']And we've concluded, yet again, that you bring nothing of substance to any conversation, have no apparent opinions or intellect and the only ability you've been able to demonstrate to date is to thread crap.

KTHNXBYE[/QUOTE]
Only read the first line of my post, eh? :roll:
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']Only read the first line of my post, eh? :roll:[/QUOTE]

Also likes to ignore evidence that's contrary to his point
 
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