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All my phantoms were fine all week until my PS4 went into rest mode last night, now they're all locked.  Lotsa money down the freaking tube

 
I too have just lost all access to all my phantoms:

Borderlands:THC
Diablo 3 UEE
GTA 5
Dragon Age
Destiny
CoD:AW
Wolfenstein TNO

They were fine when I played yesterday. I have no words right now. So much money wasted.
 
I have both powered off completely and put my PS4 into rest mode and haven't lost a single phantom out of about 6 that I have.  I've had multiple users log into and out of my PS4 also this weekend (my brother and his kids are in town) and nothing out of the ordinary so far. *knock on wood*

 
What do the people who've lost their phantoms have in common?

As in, did you go tor rest mode? suspend feature etc
Best thing to do is make a post of users affected so it'as known how many members are affected. Then post a list of common issues/things be written as well. It might help for the coming days, if this issue persists.

Despite the recent issues with members on here, a situation like this can do with using all the good gamesharing eggheads.

 
I always use rest mode. My ps4 rarely gets powered completely down.

I have used the suspend mode.

When I download a phantom, I always log out and completely power down.

What's weird is I was playing on the phantoms just fine days after the update and then poof..... Gone.
 
Best thing to do is make a post of users affected so it'as known how many members are affected. Then post a list of common issues/things be written as well. It might help for the coming days, if this issue persists.

Despite the recent issues with members on here, a situation like this can do with using all the good gamesharing eggheads.
Yeah seems the best way

 
If it helps with the mystery, I never use rest or suspend mode. I always power off completely and I haven't lost either of my 2 phantoms, which were put on several months ago.

 
To those who still have their phantoms, congrats! Lets hope it stays this way for the next days&weeks.

To all who are affected by gameshare hell.Please answer these questions so
we can see some patterns. Add any other questions if they might be relevant.

1. When did you last add a new phantom/resell in your ps4 and what game?
2. Whats the last 3 phantoms/resells you bought/downloaded and when?
3. How many accounts total were in your ps4 when it happend? How many that were set to primary but disconnected?
4. When did you install the latest firmware?
5. Do you have any now locked games in your ps4, that have TWO ownerships? (you see the account owner(s), when you attempt to run the locked games)
6. Did you have your ps4 in rest mode in the last 24 hours over night or for downloading a game or for
    another reason, before your phantoms got locked?
7. Did you enable the suspend/resume feature in power settings after the last firmware update?

Dont quote my post but answer in one block with the numbers in advance so we can
compare more easily, copy&paste only the questions if you want to add more questions.

 
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If it helps with the mystery, I never use rest or suspend mode. I always power off completely and I haven't lost either of my 2 phantoms, which were put on several months ago.
I always had my :ps4: on completely power off too and I still have all my phantoms.

The only time it was on rest was after the new update since for some reason it changed to that automatically. As soon as I spotted it on rest after I turned it off for the first time, I immediately turned it back on and put it power off completely. As of right now, I still have all my phantoms.

 
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For Sale:
PS4:
Bound by Flame Resell - $10
Child of Light [UK] Resell (includes PS3 Resells) - $4
Destiny + Expansion Pass Resell - $30
Entwined Resell (includes PS3 Resells) - $4
Injustice Ultimate Edition Resell (includes PS3 Resells) - $8
Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor + Season Pass Phantom - $14
Saints Row IV + Gat out of hell Resell - $22
Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition Phantom - $10
Thief Phantom - $5/ Resell - $10 (or rent for $1/week)

PS3:
Bioshock + Bioshock 2 + The Protector Trials + Minerva's Den + Bioshock Infinite + Season Pass Resell - $7
Dark Souls II + all crown DLC Resell - $12
Destiny + Expansion Pass Resell - $10/ Phantom - $4
Dishonored + all trophy DLC Resell - $3
Final Fantasy 13-2 Resell - $3
Gran Turismo 6 Resell - $7/ Phantom - $3
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII + Cloud DLC + Japanese VO Resell - $7
Resident Evil 4 HD + DmC + Vergil's Downfall + Costume pack + Puppeteer + Fatal Frame Phantom - $3
Resident Evil Revelations 2 Complete Season Phantom -$2
South Park: The Stick of Truth Resell - $5

Available for rent (per week):
PS4:
Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag + Season Pass - $1
Battlefield 4 + Premium - $1
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare + Havoc DLC - $1
Diablo 3: Ultimate Evil Edition - $1
DmC: Definitive Edition - $1.25
Dragon Age: Inquisition - $1.50
Driveclub + Season Pass - $1.50
Infamous Second Son - $1
Killzone Shadow Fall + Season Pass - $1
Metro Redux - $1
Rayman Legends - $1
Resident Evil HD - $0.50
Saints Row IV Re-Elected + Gat Out of Hell - $1.50
Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - $1
Watch Dogs + Season Pass - $1.50

Currently being rented:
PS4: (per week)
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection - $1.50
Dying Light + Season Pass - $1.50
Far Cry 4 + Season Pass - $1.50
Final Fantasy Type-0 - $1.50
Resident Evil Revelations 2 Complete Season + Wesker - $0.50
The Order: 1886 - $1.50
 
Jupst saw on my country's fb gameshare page, that the backup options ruins the licenses on your ps4. Maybe the users who lost phantoms tried that option?
 
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Not to derail the topic at hand here but speaking of the update, there's 2 options that we were supposed to get in this update which I can't figure out how to make them work still: the sorting of trophies, and changing of text options. Anyone figure out how to do these yet?

 
For those that lost phantoms:

What kind of automatic download/upload settings do you use (Settings>System>Auto Download/Upload)?

It might be that Sony called into all accounts that have the "auto updates and saved data while in rest mode" feature turned on at sometime during the update.

And when it called into a phantomed account the system bounced back as deactivated and locked the licence - pretty much the same as if you accidentally logged in.

Maybe start unchecking these settings when phantoming an account, to be safe.

Just my $.02, hope it helps.

 
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I think some just screwed and earn money so lots who sell phantoms or Resell need more trusted More information about him

 
Does anyone know if EU DLC would work with a US share?

its a bit hit and miss.

I had the destiny UK trial and bought a US phantom from here and it activated the full game with dark below dlc.

 
Not to derail the topic at hand here but speaking of the update, there's 2 options that we were supposed to get in this update which I can't figure out how to make them work still: the sorting of trophies, and changing of text options. Anyone figure out how to do these yet?
They work for me.

Text options are under the Accessibility menu.

The trophy sorting works with individual game lists by hitting the options button. You can't sort your main trophy list.

 
Jesus trying to reply to people on the sites mobile layout is ass.

Has anyone lost a phantom that they've downloaded after the update?
I had a friend who made a Bloodborne one on Friday and it had offed itself today. As far as he told me he had his console I rest mode the entire time.

Does anyone know if EU DLC would work with a US share?

its a bit hit and miss.

I had the destiny UK trial and bought a US phantom from here and it activated the full game with dark below dlc.
Won't work with any game. DLC has to be from the same region as the game or it won't work. If you bought a phantom of Destiny that had the expansion pass you'll get all the DLC, because the expansion pass just works as an unlock since the DLC is downloaded as patches and not separate, so that could be why you're getting it.
 
Damn just read the thread. Worst thing is I bought Bloodborne and Battlefield today as phantoms when I thought they were resells! Should have woken up properly first. $50 will probably be pissed away soon. Today was the first time I used rest mode in a while too. So will check my shares in the morning. I played a GTAV phantom today and it was fine though.

If it works for me I assume being in the EU and havign a US shares may avoid detection (hopefully lol)

I think two people who own one phantom and one resell should play online at the same time on a low value game and see if its locks it out.

Jesus trying to reply to people on the sites mobile layout is ass.


I had a friend who made a Bloodborne one on Friday and it had offed itself today. As far as he told me he had his console I rest mode the entire time.


Won't work with any game. DLC has to be from the same region as the game or it won't work. If you bought a phantom of Destiny that had the expansion pass you'll get all the DLC, because the expansion pass just works as an unlock since the DLC is downloaded as patches and not separate, so that could be why you're getting it.
thanks makes sense about destiny.

 
well farcry 4 ps4 version is $20.40 on my regional ps store, anyone up for a phantom?

far cry 4 ps4

resell (12.24)
-stryder43

phantom ($8.16) only accepting amazon gc
- available



have:
fifa 15 + pvz garden warfare + tales from borderlands ep1 ps4 resell
want:
$20 amazon gc, or trade for other ps4 games
 
The problem is the automatic downloading of saved data etc.

I have no way of testing this now but it must be a new feature that when the ps4 goes to pull saved data off the ps4 off your system it sees the saved data tied to a phantom account.

So it locks it.

Seems like the most plausible reason.

For those of you who STILL HAVE your phantoms, do you have this option active or not?
 
The problem is the automatic downloading of saved data etc.

I have no way of testing this now but it must be a new feature that when the ps4 goes to pull saved data off the ps4 off your system it sees the saved data tied to a phantom account.

So it locks it.

Seems like the most plausible reason.

For those of you who STILL HAVE your phantoms, do you have this option active or not?
Active on mine and my games are still good.

 
The problem is the automatic downloading of saved data etc.

I have no way of testing this now but it must be a new feature that when the ps4 goes to pull saved data off the ps4 off your system it sees the saved data tied to a phantom account.

So it locks it.

Seems like the most plausible reason.

For those of you who STILL HAVE your phantoms, do you have this option active or not?
I have 2 phantoms and they are still functional. I haven't messed with any settings since the new update, and the only settings I ever touched are the power save settings, I never touch anything else, so default settings for me. I also never turn my ps4 completely off and always use the resting option. Hope this helps somehow.

 
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Bloodborne phantom for sale :( $22
Would but can't risk it happening again.

That and the fiance is getting dental work done tomorrow.. gonna be $200 we don't really have, so in turn I can't spend another $22 that we don't really have.

Sucks because I traded in Dragon Age Inq, Far cry and Sleeping Dogs definitve. Bought a bigger HDD, and use the remainder funds to pay for my Bloodborne and Borderlands phantoms.. which I no longer have,

I lost 5-6 games via upgrading my HDD, and now I'm out another 2 phantoms because of this.. so I'm down to basically destiny and PS+ games on my PS4.. and Unity & Lords of the fallen which I have on disk.

Just overall done with phantoms :|

 
Hmm, on the flip side then, would anyone like to buy my resell for Bloodborne?

$32, I will have no problem giving the email account over as well.

 
Gonna ask again, could doing something from the resell side be locking out the phantoms after the update? BL THC still works for me (has since the 23rd) on a phantom and the resell hasn't touched the account, and doesn't plan on it either.

 
sucks to see you guys lost phantoms, what were they? I have fifa, destiny, cod ghosts and mgs gz all fine

might have to do with new games idk

 
Just to add to the thread:

I've got 8 phantoms on my PS4 right now. I have used suspend and resume several times and I still have access to all of my phantoms so far. I've never changed any settings in my system except for network settings, so I'm across the board defaults on downloading and uploading and all that.

This kind of thing is why I've largely switched to rentals (shoutout to my boy QDiz) unless something is just a real good price on sale or something. I can generally clear a game fast enough to spend less than $10 on a 3-5 week rental and there's no chances of this kind of weird stuff happening.

 
For Sale

NBA2k15 (Resell) $19

Driveclub (Phantom) $20

MOTOGP14 and MXGP in one account (Resell) $45

Currently Rented

Shadow Of Mordor

Jupst saw on my country's fb gameshare page, that the backup options ruins the licenses on your ps4. Maybe the users who lost phantoms tried that option?
This is how I lost my phantom but I only got one phantom on my ps4.

 
I just read ep 3 of game of thrones was released, is this true?

OK, confirmed. I needs a rental asap por favor. jdubb is MIA, anyone else?

 
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