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Falcons are still on auto pilot...but yeah, lets at least wait a bit before playing the CPU there. The guy who is on the waiting list has never responded to PM's or showed his face in the thread again. It really seemed to be a "hit and run" sign up. Not sure what the point was. I'm just going to list the Falcons as "open" for now.

EDIT - I decided to PM the guy on the waiting list anyway, just so I'm not ruling anyone out. But considering he hasn't been on CAG since 11/1, I'm not terribly optimistic.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Falcons are still on auto pilot...but yeah, lets at least wait a bit before playing the CPU there. The guy who is on the waiting list has never responded to PM's or showed his face in the thread again. It really seemed to be a "hit and run" sign up. Not sure what the point was. I'm just going to list the Falcons as "open" for now.

EDIT - I decided to PM the guy on the waiting list anyway, just so I'm not ruling anyone out. But considering he hasn't been on CAG since 11/1, I'm not terribly optimistic.[/QUOTE]

that's fine, like I said I can wait till Tuesday night to play, I just cant play Wednesday night.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I'm surprised not more people are interested in the falcons, they are a solid team[/QUOTE]
Well it's not like I can drop then asked to be put on the waiting list and get the falcons. Lol or can I? :cool:
 
[quote name='GpNinja']Well it's not like I can drop then asked to be put on the waiting list and get the falcons. Lol or can I? :cool:[/QUOTE]

If that's the case I call dibs. There is no worse crime than being forced to start Christian Ponder on a weekly basis. Dude is a 71 overall! 71! Most people's backups aren't that terrible.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']Well it's not like I can drop then asked to be put on the waiting list and get the falcons. Lol or can I? :cool:[/QUOTE]

[quote name='KasterDB']If that's the case I call dibs. There is no worse crime than being forced to start Christian Ponder on a weekly basis. Dude is a 71 overall! 71! Most people's backups aren't that terrible.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's a negative, lol. If we were going to allow team hopping, things would have gotten crazy a long time ago.

[quote name='DVO21']we really need a full 32 people for the offseason or the computer will make it a mess for us[/QUOTE]

Well, that's why I at least want to leave aftershock in as the "current owner". I'll even take him off auto pilot if I have to, just so his team doesn't make any moves while we're all trying to handle our stuff. Obviously, I'd prefer to have a replacement before then, but we'll see what happens. And no more of your friends in this league. You know a lot of flaky assclowns, lol.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Yeah, that's a negative, lol. If we were going to allow team hopping, things would have gotten crazy a long time ago.[/QUOTE]

I shoulda just stayed on the waiting list till the Falcons opened up lol:cool:
 
[quote name='Docb9110']Colts owner just messaged me and said he was done for the season and told me to play the CPU.[/QUOTE]

For the SEASON...as in, he still intends to stay in the league and participate in the draft and all that?

Kinda sucks, as that game does have playoff implications and he could play the role of spoiler (as he did by beating the Chiefs and preventing them from contending for a first round bye).
 
His exact words in his response to me asking when he could play were

"Ummmmm I'm done for the season so you can just play the CPU."

I aske him to put himself on auto but no response.
 
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Just got done with the Bills. I need to have some stuff clarified here. From what I understood, hurry-up offenses were only allowed within 2 minutes left of the 1st half and 4th quarter, and also when you are down by a large margin. This guy did it twice, once just outside of the 2 minute warning in the first half with 3 timeouts left (not a big deal), and again in the 3rd quarter. I called him out for it when he did it in the 3rd and he says it's not against the rules.

Also, I went for it on 4th down and 2 or 3 I think on his side of the field and he's telling me I cant do that. Am I tripping here?? I thought I had a pretty good grasp on what the rules were.
 
The Bills season ended; I went 5-2 not too bad. Both of my losses were to chetty haha. The draft is going to suck because I have really nobody scouted. Hopefully I can get this player that I found if so my defensive will be a wholelot better. The 28 thousand cap space will be epic during the free for all period. Well for me atleast :cool:
 
[quote name='GpNinja']The Bills season ended; I went 5-2 not too bad. Both of my losses were to chetty haha. The draft is going to suck because I have really nobody scouted. Hopefully I can get this player that I found if so my defensive will be a wholelot better. The 28 thousand cap space will be epic during the free for all period. Well for me atleast :cool:[/QUOTE]

Do you mean million? Cause 28 thousand won't get you anybody. Also, 7 million or so is put in reserve for the draft.
 
I played exactly like an nfl coach would. Also your calling 14-0 a lage margin? You must give up easy. I saw nothing that said anything regarding hurry ups. For the 3rd quater i sawa gap in your defensive thats why i hurried up and i was right i got a first down. The rules say on 4th down down to only go for if your going to lose the game if you dont 14-0 is not losing the game espically in the 1st quater.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Do you mean million? Cause 28 thousand won't get you anybody. Also, 7 million or so is put in reserve for the draft.[/QUOTE]
Haha ya oops. I got 20mil
 
[quote name='GpNinja']I played exactly like an nfl coach would. Also your calling 14-0 a lage margin? You must give up easy. I saw nothing that said anything regarding hurry ups. For the 3rd quater i sawa gap in your defensive thats why i hurried up and i was right i got a first down. The rules say on 4th down down to only go for if your going to lose the game if you dont 14-0 is not losing the game espically in the 1st quater.[/QUOTE]


This means you don't go for 4th downs on your end of the field.
I was on your end of the field and would have been a pretty long Field Goal kick with 13 MPH winds. Considering I already missed a few this year, i was not going to attempt that.
 
[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']This means you don't go for 4th downs on your end of the field.
I was on your end of the field and would have been a pretty long Field Goal kick with 13 MPH winds. Considering I already missed a few this year, i was not going to attempt that.[/QUOTE]
Then you punt.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']Then you punt.[/QUOTE]

Lol... Punt from the 30-35 yard line, right? That makes as much sense as calling a no-huddle from your own 20 yard line, beginning of the 3rd, already up 11 points.
 
I'd go for it on 4th down in that situation if I didn't trust I'd make a field goal and I needed points on the board, and I think any NFL coach would.
 
Not necessarily. Why punt it from your opponent's 42, have it go for a touchback and only move the ball 22 yards if you have a fourth and short? It's aggressive, sure, but it's certainly not unheard of for an NFL coach to do it.
 
Well, I don't think either of these issues breaks the rules. Even if you argued that they were "pushing it", neither really seems to be excessive. If he was running a CONSTANT hurry up, that would be one thing. But going to it twice in the entire game doesn't seem unreasonable. The rule isn't black and white of "Don't use it unless it's within the 2 minute warning". But like anything, it shouldn't be abused either.

As for a 4th and 2 on his side of the field...not sure how many times it can be stated, but if you only stand to gain 20-25 yards with a punt (ie. it goes into the endzone), many coaches would consider going for it to be a calculated risk. Two examples from just the game I watched today (Titans - Texans), on 4th and 1, at the Tennessee 11 yard line, with 1:04 left in the 1st quarter, and winning 7-3, the Texans went for it, with Arian Foster picking up the 1st down. They threw for a TD on the very next play. To ME...that's a pretty damn aggressive playcall, and I don't know why you wouldn't just take the 3 points, but I guess Kubiak was confident in his running game. Not sure if that's an attitude we want to strive for in here, but it does happen.

Then, with 2:36 left in the 2nd quarter, trailing 14-3, and facing a 4th and 6 at the Texans 36 yard line, the Titans were going to go for it rather than attempting a 53 yard field goal. But a delay of game penalty caused them to end up punting anyway. That's the biggest thing people need to remember. It's ALWAYS situational. If you can't explain why you went for it in any given situation, you shouldn't be doing it. But if there's some logic behind it and you can defend it, then by all means, make the call.
 
[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']Lol... Punt from the 30-35 yard line, right? That makes as much sense as calling a no-huddle from your own 20 yard line, beginning of the 3rd, already up 11 points.[/QUOTE]

Well I converted so it did. Yep get it out about my 5 yard line then hopefully you can get a saftey.
 
I've also seen teams go no huddle 3 times in a row. With really no need too; it's to get the defensive off guard. That's what I did and it worked.
 
and Peyton Manning goes no huddle all the time, doesnt mean it should be happening in the game of Madden. Per Post #33, there were some very specific examples of when no-huddle is expected:

I feel like there are obvious times to run a no huddle: under two minutes left in the 1st half, if you're losing by 3 scores or more in the 2nd half, or if you're losing at all in the 4th quarter. Outside of that, it should be used sparingly. Honestly, I think that same policy could be applied for when it's appropriate to chew the clock (changing "losing" with "winning" of course).


So what is considered "sparingly"? How many times outside of the given parameters can it be used without it being considered "cheese"? I was under the impression that it was to only be used in those specific situations, but I guess not.
 
My first game in this league ended in a tie because I attempted 3 or 4 long field goals that I missed instead of going for it on 4th and short. I asked about the situation after the game and was told that it would not be unreasonable to go for it in those situations. The guy I played against even said he would not have cared if I had gone for it on 4th down. I'm not good enough at punting to pin someone inside the 5 yard line anyway, so a punt would have likely sent my opponent to the 20 yard line. Next time, I will be going for the first down.

No huddle is not just for drives at the end of a half, though I don't think it would be very gentlemanlike to run a constant no huddle offense. I run it very rarely, but when I do, its only for a few plays. Teams like the Patriots run a no huddle offense pretty often, but they have a good reason to do so.

If someone is going no huddle on you, just audible to a different play on defense, then your opponent won't have the same look on back to back plays and hopefully won't get what they were looking for. As Gp said, he saw something he liked on the previous play, so he went no huddle to try to get that.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']I've also seen teams go no huddle 3 times in a row. With really no need too; it's to get the defensive off guard. That's what I did and it worked.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']and Peyton Manning goes no huddle all the time, doesnt mean it should be happening in the game of Madden. Per Post #33, there were some very specific examples of when no-huddle is expected:

I feel like there are obvious times to run a no huddle: under two minutes left in the 1st half, if you're losing by 3 scores or more in the 2nd half, or if you're losing at all in the 4th quarter. Outside of that, it should be used sparingly. Honestly, I think that same policy could be applied for when it's appropriate to chew the clock (changing "losing" with "winning" of course).


So what is considered "sparingly"? How many times outside of the given parameters can it be used without it being considered "cheese"? I was under the impression that it was to only be used in those specific situations, but I guess not.[/QUOTE]

What has to be considered is that this is a video game. In real life, yeah, there are plenty of teams that run a no huddle. But in a video game, you can't rush players on/off the field, or call in an entirely new play based on your personnel. We're much more limited. So, an abuse of no huddle becomes exploitative rather quickly.

I don't even really consider "your defense was mismatched" to REALLY be a great reason to do it. But, at the same time, the defense should also be able to see that they're in a mismatch, and burn a timeout. And if it's not being done excessively, then I think it's at least reasonable. Ultimately, I feel like if we start complaining about things that are done one or two times a game, we're really going to open a can of worms.
 
[quote name='jza1218']I hope you guys realize how lucky you are to have me lol. Not sure how many people would have stuck out a 2-14 season.[/QUOTE]

I am. To be honest, I think you (And people like you) are the reason these leagues succeed. Without guys like you, who take a beating the first few seasons, then learn from it and come back better, we would have run out of people. No one is instantly good, and we had to get better just like you. I went 6-10 last year in this league. I didn't enjoy it, but as you can tell I have gotten better.

I wish you the best. I think next year when you get your team situated how you like it, and that experience kicks in, you will do much better!
 
Broncos Beat Chiefs 27-24!

Absolutely fantastic game! It was an incredibly close game. It came down to a Jamal Charles fumble at the end that I kicked a field goal off of. Also special shout out to Demaryius Thomas who took a kick off 85yrds to get me in position to score and tie it up.

Great game cool I am! Good luck in the playoffs!
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']Broncos Beat Chiefs 27-24!

Absolutely fantastic game! It was an incredibly close game. It came down to a Jamal Charles fumble at the end that I kicked a field goal off of. Also special shout out to Demaryius Thomas who took a kick off 85yrds to get me in position to score and tie it up.

Great game cool I am! Good luck in the playoffs![/QUOTE]

Gg thanks same to u!
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']What has to be considered is that this is a video game. In real life, yeah, there are plenty of teams that run a no huddle. But in a video game, you can't rush players on/off the field, or call in an entirely new play based on your personnel. We're much more limited. So, an abuse of no huddle becomes exploitative rather quickly.

I don't even really consider "your defense was mismatched" to REALLY be a great reason to do it. But, at the same time, the defense should also be able to see that they're in a mismatch, and burn a timeout. And if it's not being done excessively, then I think it's at least reasonable. Ultimately, I feel like if we start complaining about things that are done one or two times a game, we're really going to open a can of worms.[/QUOTE]

I just don't get why it's not banned unless the situation calls for it. He did a no huddle bc he saw something in my defense? So basically anytime I get a completed pass, I could use this as a reason. I've played plenty of players who have done no huddle but they were all instances that made sense. No huddle 5 seconds before the 2 minute warning, already across the 50, and having 3 timeouts didnt seem reasonable to me. It definitely didn't seem reasonable early in the 3rd. I honestly think he may have done more if I didnt call him out via XBL message after that 2nd time.
 
[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']I just don't get why it's not banned unless the situation calls for it. He did a no huddle bc he saw something in my defense? So basically anytime I get a completed pass, I could use this as a reason. I've played plenty of players who have done no huddle but they were all instances that made sense. No huddle 5 seconds before the 2 minute warning, already across the 50, and having 3 timeouts didnt seem reasonable to me. It definitely didn't seem reasonable early in the 3rd. I honestly think he may have done more if I didnt call him out via XBL message after that 2nd time.[/QUOTE]

Well, it's a play style just like anything else. Using that logic, you could make the same argument that audibling should be banned because people do it when they "see something in your defense". If it was something that couldn't be stopped, it would definitely be banned. But the defense can either audible themselves, or call a timeout and stop the "momentum" dead in its tracks (what I like to do).

Some people think it's not even a big deal to do it all game long. But for me, that becomes incredibly cheesy...and borderline exploitative, based on the reasons I mentioned earlier (not being able to sub players, get better defensive matchups, etc). Honestly, I'm not a fan of the hurry up, but I'm not going to deny that it can be beneficial in small doses.

Ultimately, when I play somebody, I try to assess what type of player they are as quickly as I can, and then do my best to make them uncomfortable all game long. If they want to be super aggressive, scramble all over the place, and rush the game, I take my time calling my plays and slow things back down. When you start letting your opponent dictate the pace is when you get frustrated and things get away from you.
 
[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']I just don't get why it's not banned unless the situation calls for it. He did a no huddle bc he saw something in my defense? So basically anytime I get a completed pass, I could use this as a reason. I've played plenty of players who have done no huddle but they were all instances that made sense. No huddle 5 seconds before the 2 minute warning, already across the 50, and having 3 timeouts didnt seem reasonable to me. It definitely didn't seem reasonable early in the 3rd. I honestly think he may have done more if I didnt call him out via XBL message after that 2nd time.[/QUOTE]
Lol your still with this. Ask anybody else I've played I never go no huddle I only did it twice and your still complaning about it. It's not like I did it 20 times.
 
[quote name='Docb9110']N8 can you please put snakemaster on auto? I asked him a few times via pm on here and once on XBL and no response.[/QUOTE]

I'll do it the next time I'm on...which probably isn't going to be till sometime this evening. Are you sure he's not already on auto? There were a few people I just left on auto pilot because of the issues they've been having.
 
I appreciate that. He wasn't on auto when I checked yesterday evening after I messaged him asking him to change. He maybe as of right now. Ill try and check when I leave the office this evening.

He actually played his game last week against the chiefs so he wasn't defaulted to auto.
 
[quote name='Docb9110']I appreciate that. He wasn't on auto when I checked yesterday evening after I messaged him asking him to change. He maybe as of right now. Ill try and check when I leave the office this evening.

He actually played his game last week against the chiefs so he wasn't defaulted to auto.[/QUOTE]

You can still be on auto and play your games. And it carries over week to week, so either he changed it himself after you played his CPU last, or I'm not remembering something right.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']Lol your still with this. Ask anybody else I've played I never go no huddle I only did it twice and your still complaning about it. It's not like I did it 20 times.[/QUOTE]

Seriously? I cant state my opinion on the matter? I just find it to be a very cheesy move that's banned in other leagues I play in unless specific situations call for it. I'll be sure to remember it's allowed here and use it next time against you bud
 
I personally wouldn't mind the no huddle being banned other than the final 2 minutes on either half. Also, going for it and not punting is the only option that made sense. It is pointless to punt to put someone at the 20 rather than losing the ball at the 32.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I personally wouldn't mind the no huddle being banned other than the final 2 minutes on either half. Also, going for it and not punting is the only option that made sense. It is pointless to punt to put someone at the 20 rather than losing the ball at the 32.[/QUOTE]

The problem is then you can make an argument that people should be able to use it right before the 2 minute warning. Its too situational, to be put into a specific category of only 2 minutes. If you use it sparingly, twice a game then whatever its not a big deal. If you use it an entire 12 play drive then that's when it becomes cheese.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']You can still be on auto and play your games. And it carries over week to week, so either he changed it himself after you played his CPU last, or I'm not remembering something right.[/QUOTE]

Hey played against the chiefs last weeek so I am assuming he did pull himself off auto as when I tried to play yesterday and it sent an invite to him to play and wouldnt let me get into the game.
 
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