California GOP Women's Group Mailing: No Comment Necessary

[quote name='mykevermin']Fairfield.

:lol:

I miss you *this* much, Cincinnati.[/QUOTE]

Crazy white supremacist in a relativity rural area of Ohio? I've never seen any...





I like the thinly veiled attempt by the woman who made it to play it off: "I didn't know those were stereotypes!" If she didn't, she needs to go to Vegas fast, because for her to nail one with each of the items she used she's cashing in on infinitesimal odds.
 
So associating Obama with a ghost hanging from a tree is racist?

You guys clearly don't know what racism is, you're being oversensitive. :roll:
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Fried chicken is cheap? Where? And why is grape soda cheaper than any other flavor?

Sorry Camoor, I think you are trying really hard to find offense where there isn't any. Unless you were being sarcastic, which is possible.[/quote]

This whole tangent is an over-intellectualization of the situation (as it's patently offensive) but we can examine it in detail if y'all just can't see it.

I think the thing that bothers me the most about this CA Republican lady is that she is trying to objectify all the members of one race by intimating that they all act in the same manner. It's an unfortunate fact that today the majority of African Americans are poorer then the general population and thus many African Americans have no choice but to live in economically depressed areas. These are areas which this food and drink (grape soda, fried chicken) has come to represent in popular culture, fair or not. This whole incident is similar to that scene in one of those old movies about the 1900s where some bigot is telling an Italian-American immigrant to go stuff his face with spagetti - the ugly message is clear - get out of here, you're not one of us, go back to your area with your kind. And I think it's disgusting.
 
[quote name='yukine']So associating Obama with a ghost hanging from a tree is racist?

You guys clearly don't know what racism is, you're being oversensitive. :roll:[/quote]


there is a difference between hanging ghost, and noosed obama ghost, oh and I am sure him saying that a black man shouldnt be president and for some reason a jewish star on the head have no negative intonations either
 
[quote name='camoor']This whole tangent is an over-intellectualization of the situation (as it's patently offensive) but we can examine it in detail if y'all just can't see it.

I think the thing that bothers me the most about this CA Republican lady is that she is trying to objectify all the members of one race by intimating that they all act in the same manner. It's an unfortunate fact that today the majority of African Americans are poorer then the general population and thus many African Americans have no choice but to live in economically depressed areas. These are areas which this food and drink (grape soda, fried chicken) has come to represent in popular culture, fair or not. This whole incident is similar to that scene in one of those old movies about the 1900s where some bigot is telling an Italian-American immigrant to go stuff his face with spagetti - the ugly message is clear - get out of here, you're not one of us, go back to your area with your kind. And I think it's disgusting.[/QUOTE]

Well I can agree with all of that.

Where I wrinkle my brow, though (I'm sure you saw this coming), is the possible double standards in being disgusted by this type of thing. Because you see those types of sterotypes and generalizations all over the place in black comedy and pop culture about whites. But, I know - I know, the whole hegemony thing....yadda yadda.

I guess I wouldn't even bother responding to this if it weren't for the fact that something deep down inside salts my sensibilities and tells me you'd likely verify the double standard should similar sterotypes be reversed in a situation like this, and not be nearly as offended. Maybe I'm wrong though.....

Alas, I'm fueling an unnecessary tangent, because of a caffinated sleepless night. My apologies to the op.
 
I still have never heard the Kool-aid or grape soda thing before.

It seems to me that the stereotype of suburban whites as racists is also pretty unfair. But it does make for good comedy. People like Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle wouldn't have careers if it weren't for racial stereotyping, would they?

This has to be the best satire on racial insensitivity and political correctness I've ever seen and I can't believe it aired even on cable TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxKXLqlxCfc
 
Unfortunately, my home state of California is still home to great racism.

EDIT -- And you guys are also forgetting that Chapelle and Rock make alot of fun black people also. Do you remember the reparations skit, or the Dice Championships, or the Black White Supremacist? They make fun of everyone. Carlos Mencia does the same thing.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']:lol: Yeah, Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle sure love to stick it to suburban whites and suburban whites only.

:rofl:[/QUOTE]

White people stereotypes are part of your "fair and balanced" agenda, eh myke? Sauce for the goose, and all that.

You're such a stereotypical "liberal" it's scary. Do they have a school for that? Oh, yeah, it's called "College."
 
[quote name='bmulligan']White people stereotypes are part of your "fair and balanced" agenda, eh myke? Sauce for the goose, and all that.

You're such a stereotypical "liberal" it's scary. Do they have a school for that? Oh, yeah, it's called "College."[/quote]

Look at Chappelle's Trading Spouses skit for some fair and balanced satire. Or you could look at the skit he did with John Mayer, a white musician. Or how about the time he made fun of Little John. Please do a little research before you open your mouth next time.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Well I can agree with all of that.

Where I wrinkle my brow, though (I'm sure you saw this coming), is the possible double standards in being disgusted by this type of thing. Because you see those types of sterotypes and generalizations all over the place in black comedy and pop culture about whites. But, I know - I know, the whole hegemony thing....yadda yadda.

I guess I wouldn't even bother responding to this if it weren't for the fact that something deep down inside salts my sensibilities and tells me you'd likely verify the double standard should similar sterotypes be reversed in a situation like this, and not be nearly as offended. Maybe I'm wrong though.....

Alas, I'm fueling an unnecessary tangent, because of a caffinated sleepless night. My apologies to the op.[/quote]

Maybe also because "Go back to Malibu and stuff your face with your grilled mahi mahi served alongside an olive and shallot tapenade" doesn't have quite the same sting ;)
 
[quote name='bmulligan']White people stereotypes are part of your "fair and balanced" agenda, eh myke? Sauce for the goose, and all that.

You're such a stereotypical "liberal" it's scary. Do they have a school for that? Oh, yeah, it's called "College."[/QUOTE]

I put this into babelfish and got this translation going from "dickbag" to "english."

"I can't ever concede a point, even when I know I'm wrong."

Babelfish is scary accurate, mang.

Also, let's not bring up Carlos Mencia. Please.
 
Christ Jesus can a discussion of stereotypes ever conclude without somebody mentioning Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle? It's like that's even a stereotype now...

This wasn't a fucking comedy act, it was a newsletter. Rather than making jokes with perhaps some intended social commentary, they were actually trying to make a real political point with the use of racial stereotypes. It's a bit more serious than comedy.

And I swear to fucking god, some of you might understand why stereotypes used against a minority with a history of oppression are usually taken a bit more seriously than ones against a majority which has always had power if you took half a fucking second to think about it.
 
looks like we need to send some people to...

death_camp_tolerance_south_park.jpg
 
I still want to know how bmulligan has never every heard that watermelon and fried chicken are used as black stereotypes. Have you been living under a rock your entire life or do you just refuse to see any type of entertainment that has people of color in it.
 
Reading comprehension is obviously not one of your strong points. It's Kool-aid and grape soda I've never heard before. Do some research before posting next time. It's not hard, it's called reading - it's fundamental !
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Reading comprehension is obviously not one of your strong points. It's Kool-aid and grape soda I've never heard before. Do some research before posting next time. It's not hard, it's called reading - it's fundamental ![/quote]


Wow. Thanks for the reading lesson. Let me rephrase. How have you never head that Kool-aid and grape soda/drink are part of the watermelon/fried chicken/malt liquor stereotype? Since you seem to be a resident expert on everything, how could such a basic stereotype get past you? In all your vast wisdon, how are you not educated on basic stereotypes. Please tell me that you're speaking from some sort of experience and not just what you've seen on TV.
 
I'm offended by such use of racial stereotypes, and more offended that people blow them off so easily. But given the source of those blowoffs I can't say I'm surprised.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Wow. Thanks for the reading lesson. Let me rephrase. How have you never head that Kool-aid and grape soda/drink are part of the watermelon/fried chicken/malt liquor stereotype? Since you seem to be a resident expert on everything, how could such a basic stereotype get past you? In all your vast wisdon, how are you not educated on basic stereotypes. Please tell me that you're speaking from some sort of experience and not just what you've seen on TV.[/QUOTE]

I am sorry. Perhaps you learned of blacks liking grape soda form your local newspaper? Maybe at the last chamber of commerce meeting? Or did you learn them from your bigoted friends in high school, or the racist ones in college?

Obviously you have far more resources for redneck hate mongers to have taught you the ins and outs of the hatred of black people. Let me guess, you graduated in a white robe ?

Kool-aid is hardly a well known stereotype of blacks in my circle of friends or in my media sources. Thank you for the education, you've been most insightful into the world of soft, white bread, barely educated, suburban prejudice.
 
I think part of the stereotype is simply "food/drink poor or uneducated people buy." It wasn't explicitly kool-aid when I grew up, but it was "little hugs" (these awful tasting colored sugar water drinks served in tiny plastic containers with foil tops to them).

I think a more accurate description would be "not juice" as opposed to "kool aid." Like Dave Chappelle's bit (oh, you know - the only one where he isn't making fun of white people ;) :lol: ;)) about "purple stuff" versus Sunny Delight (not juice either, but I digress).
 
I would join this conversation, but as a black guy I am really only allowed to say things like, "Bling Bling," and "thats wack!"

Also, I will be the the first to die anyway so my opinion doesnt really count that much.
 
Sorry, I didn't realize you couldn't be racist. Please forgive me for not understanding the minutia of the myriad of stereotypes attributed to your people - and for the fact that it's hard to see your face from here.

As far as my understanding of Kool-aid stereotypes in MY social circles, Kool-aid drinkers were blind followers who, without question, would follow orders due to the god-like qualities of their leaders, e.g. Jim Jones-ers. It doesn't please me to see you are represented by both categories.
 
The kool-aid stereotype is a little less known, but it should be obvious that it is one when put on a racist item depicting clear stereotypes like watermelon and fried chicken. It doesn't take much brain power to figure out through logical reasoning that all the items must be racial stereotypes.

Grape soda is much more well known. i.e. watch Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay as it has a scene with this stereotype, which also mentions kool aid by the way..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsznX8-hL0o
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Sorry, I didn't realize you couldn't be racist. Please forgive me for not understanding the minutia of the myriad of stereotypes attributed to your people - and for the fact that it's hard to see your face from here.

As far as my understanding of Kool-aid stereotypes in MY social circles, Kool-aid drinkers were blind followers who, without question, would follow orders due to the god-like qualities of their leaders, e.g. Jim Jones-ers. It doesn't please me to see you are represented by both categories.[/quote]

Yes, we've all heard of the Jim Jones stereotype. "Guess someone was drinking the Kool-Aid."

But that's not what we're talking about in this thread. This is about black stereotypes.

Besides, if you're not black and you don't really understand the stereotype, why are you posting in this thread? Are you trying to defend the GOP or are you just blabbering?

Also, have I ever come on here spewing racist hate? Why would you possibly assume that I'm racist? Where would you get that I "graduated in a white robe"?
 
Maybe it was this that set me off:

[quote name='depascal22']
I still want to know how bmulligan has never every heard that watermelon and fried chicken are used as black stereotypes. Have you been living under a rock your entire life or do you just refuse to see any type of entertainment that has people of color in it.

Wow. Thanks for the reading lesson. Let me rephrase. How have you never head that Kool-aid and grape soda/drink are part of the watermelon/fried chicken/malt liquor stereotype? Since you seem to be a resident expert on everything, how could such a basic stereotype get past you? In all your vast wisdon, how are you not educated on basic stereotypes. Please tell me that you're speaking from some sort of experience and not just what you've seen on TV.[/QUOTE]


Honestly, I've never experienced this kind of assholishness because someone wasn't familiar with a "so-called" common stereotype. I'm sorry I don't go researching the top ten racial slurs every week to make sure I offend the right group of people correctly. The real insult is that you implied I'm a racist racist because I didn't know about them. I don't know how else to interpret ,"or do you just refuse to see any type of entertainment that has people of color in it." except an implicit accusation.

Why is it so offensive to you that I am ignorant of these racial slurs? That shit just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Thank you, you have educated me, now you may move along and continue branding republicans as the inherent racists that they must certainly be, which is stereotypical in and of itself. Oh, the irony.
 
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