Call them the "White" Sox when they win a World Series...
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mykevermin
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[quote name='Kastides']And call them the "BLACKY" Sox when they fix a World Series. = THAT's RACIST
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Weren't they the "black" sox before negro leagues and Jackie Robinson?
If you remove sports from the equation, there is a reasonable dialogue to be had that "white" is used as good, and "black" as bad; the racial applications of the certainly exist.
It did exist, it does exist, and it will continue to exist. However, in regards to the world series champs, your comparison has gaping holes that are irreconcilable. Sorry, kid, but your argument is flawed from the start.
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There is no contorversy when you dont give a shit.[/QUOTE]
Weren't they the "black" sox before negro leagues and Jackie Robinson?
If you remove sports from the equation, there is a reasonable dialogue to be had that "white" is used as good, and "black" as bad; the racial applications of the certainly exist.
It did exist, it does exist, and it will continue to exist. However, in regards to the world series champs, your comparison has gaping holes that are irreconcilable. Sorry, kid, but your argument is flawed from the start.
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please stop making threads... you give me a headache
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[quote name='Kastides']what about the BLACK MARKET??[/QUOTE]
No, even then you'd be wrong... IIRC, the term black market originated in the early 1800's as a term refering to the illegal sale of materials for making cannon balls that included balck powder and a material they then called black cake (or something like that, which was really like lead or graphite). The items were regulated and rationed so there arose an underground trading market they often called the "black market" because of the material they traded.
Also, something that I was told many fans believe but you won't see in the movies, is that the name "Black Sox" was actually created before the scandal and it referred to their uniforms. The team's owner insisted the players be the ones to clean the uniforms. That was uncommon and they disagreed so they continously played in unifroms that got dirtier and dirtier until the white uniforms started to become a darker color altogether. In the end, fans and I've been told even some newspapers comically refered to them as the "black Sox" due to their uniforms being almost that shade. When the scandal came up the players were considered "dirty" players so the name stuck. I am obviously too young to remeber it, but that's a theory I was once told by someone older and wiser than me.
And maybe I'm off on my history, but another point against you is the fact that even in the early 1900s an african-american person was rarely refered to as a black person and they practically where never called blacks. It was usually two other words that would now highly inappropiate to say.
No, even then you'd be wrong... IIRC, the term black market originated in the early 1800's as a term refering to the illegal sale of materials for making cannon balls that included balck powder and a material they then called black cake (or something like that, which was really like lead or graphite). The items were regulated and rationed so there arose an underground trading market they often called the "black market" because of the material they traded.
Also, something that I was told many fans believe but you won't see in the movies, is that the name "Black Sox" was actually created before the scandal and it referred to their uniforms. The team's owner insisted the players be the ones to clean the uniforms. That was uncommon and they disagreed so they continously played in unifroms that got dirtier and dirtier until the white uniforms started to become a darker color altogether. In the end, fans and I've been told even some newspapers comically refered to them as the "black Sox" due to their uniforms being almost that shade. When the scandal came up the players were considered "dirty" players so the name stuck. I am obviously too young to remeber it, but that's a theory I was once told by someone older and wiser than me.
And maybe I'm off on my history, but another point against you is the fact that even in the early 1900s an african-american person was rarely refered to as a black person and they practically where never called blacks. It was usually two other words that would now highly inappropiate to say.
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']And maybe I'm off on my history, but another point against you is the fact that even in the early 1900s an african-american person was rarely refered to as a black person and they practically where never called blacks. It was usually two other words that would now highly inappropiate to say.[/QUOTE]
Were it the "negro market", I'm sure you'd have a case on your hand (but, not mercadillo negro).
Were it the "negro market", I'm sure you'd have a case on your hand (but, not mercadillo negro).
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Lewis Black rocks!
Jaleel White sucks!
Jaleel White sucks!
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