[quote name='Firestorm']Toys R Us has been running that pre-order thing since February. I went in May and they had almost 20 pre-orders already. I didn't want to pre-order because I didn't know if they'd get that many units at launch (think 360). Anyway, since it was before the price announcement, I'm positive that they'll be charging you for those extra games and controller.[/quote]and zellers would be losing alot of money if they gave you those extra games for free, its wishful thinking for sure, but highly unlikely, in any case I've already spoken with a TRU employee about it, there will at the very least be a fair discount on the bundle, nintendo is giving them enough to fill all their preorders because they sell so many units, final price i'll find out probably tm, since the guy told me to check this wednesday, the one on broadway and granville has 80 something preorders right now