Casey Anthony, Not guilty!

[quote name='crushtopher']"Beyond reasonable doubt" - That's the problem with the justice system. There will ALWAYS be doubt in ANY court case. She did it and the jury knows she did it, but they wouldn't convict her because of doubt. Our country is a fucking joke...[/QUOTE]

Take a step back and envision a situation where you're being falsely accused of something and the prosecution has a fairly strong circumstantial evidence case.

It's those situations that make the reasonable doubt standard appropriate. The criminal justice system, and the state's right to administer punishments in general, is based on a social contract wherein we all agree only to give up the least possible portion of our freedoms in exchange for safety.

As such the burden is squarely on the state to prove guilt before administering any punishments.

If that mean's some guilty people get off due to weak evidence, so be it. It's better than the alternative of having a lower burden of proof and thus having more innocent people convicted on circumstantial cases.
 
A pal and I both agree that had the prosecution not been so obsessed with the death penalty, there might have been a slightly different outcome.

I can't, for the life of me, understand how she didn't go down for at least manslaughter and/or neglect. Neglect for sure.

In all, I'm disappointed with the way this whole thing went down. But, for those who are super upset with this: Realize that her victory in court is as much of a defeat as losing in court.

She buried her parents, alienated all of her friends, was pretty much identified as a loon during her trial and came off as an emotionless cyborg during the whole thing.

She will never lead a normal life. People will recognize her as "that child killer" and whatnot. Getting a job? Good luck. You think an employer will be able to deal with the backlash when it comes out that they employed her? She can't move back in with her parents after this, I have to imagine. Who else does she have?

Justice may not have been served here, that's a given. However, given the above, she has the public to deal with for the rest of her life.

That might even be worse than a life sentence.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']dmaul: Aren't you a PhD in criminal justice or a related field? Can you maybe share or post some links that explain what the prosecution's argument was and why it was so shitty that she was found not guilty?[/QUOTE]

I've finished my first year of law school and I can give you my opinion for what it's worth.

Here's a link to a slideshow of some of the major evidence that was presented (obviously its not an extensive list)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/slideshow/casey-anthony-trial-evidence-photos-13724467

Looking through it there's some clear problems. First off, what many people don't realize is that there are elements to every crime and each and every element must be proven in order to convict someone of the crime. Now, without actually looking up Florida's 1st degree premeditated murder statute I'll give you the most common elements of 1st degree premeditated murder. Common law murder typically has the elements of:

1) intentional-the person must actually mean to kill the other person
2) killing-self explanatory
3)of another-can't first degree murder yourself
4)with malice aforethought-this is where it is important to show the premeditation and the "guilty mind"

Most murder statutes are based on these elements with first degree murder having added elements such as either premeditation or that the murder occurs during the commission of another dangerous felony.

When juries are given a jury instruction is when they are basically instructed that they need to find all elements of the crime. Many, many appeals are based on the instructions given to the jury because how the judge interprets each side's request for jury instructions. Think of it like the judge makes decisions on the questions of law and the jury makes decisions on questions of fact. In this situation, the jury instruction is a question of law, how do the elements apply to this particular case.

Now, back to the evidence which was presented in the slides beforehand. Going through those its difficult to find the elements of this crime were satisfied. Particularly the malice aforethought and premeditation. In order to show this you would typically need to show some kind of "planning activity" that you planned on committing murder. From what I gather, their entire evidence of planning was based on an internet search for chloroform which was done prior to the murder. The only problem though is that there is no indication of who did the search or what the search was for.

Since we're on the topic of chloroform, if that was the method of murder as the prosecution contends, where is the evidence of the chloroform's use? There's no indication of where Casey got this chloroform and they never recovered any chloroform or evidence that chloroform had been used. The entire chloroform "theory" was based on this internet search. In my opinion that's a very sloppy way to present that theory to the jury. If there had been further evidence of chloroform's use or possession then it would have been stronger evidence but a computer search that may or may not have even been completed by the accused murder is not strong enough evidence to convict someone. How would Casey Anthony have had access to chloroform then? Too many questions.

Furthermore, evidence was presented to contradict the assertion that the search was even intended for "chloroform" in the first place. Casey's mother, Cindy, testified that when she did the search she was actually intending to search for "chlorophyll" not "chloroform." Here's a little test you can do on your own. Go to google, make sure quicksearch is on and search for "chloro." Sure enough, the first suggested word is "chloroform" and next up is "chlorophyll."

Why am I spending so much time on the issue of "chloroform"? That'd be a good question for the prosecution because they spent even more time on it at the trial. It was weak, weak evidence that they continued to push as a clear indicator that Casey had planned this murder in advance. What other evidence did they present showing premeditation? Not a whole lot.

Now, just because she wasn't guilty of premeditated murder doesn't mean she didn't commit "lesser" murder such as manslaughter. Casey was charged with aggravated manslaughter in addition to 1st degree murder. The only problem though is that the prosecution focused so much on how her search of chloroform indicated premeditated murder that they didn't focus very much on Casey's actual killing of her daughter.

They didn't provide much evidence at all for any alternate theories of how Caylee died. If they had gone through the trouble of charging her with aggravated manslaughter they should have at least provided an alternate theory of how the crime occurred to substantiate the charge.

My guess though is that they charged her with this thinking they could give the jury a "way out" if they didn't find her guilty of 1st degree murder. Basically it was a fallback plan for them in the event they didn't fully prove the 1st degree murder to the jury. Its not uncommon for this to occur in criminal trials but typically its supported by an alternate theory, complete with evidence, of how the crime may have occurred. As I see it, they didn't really bother with any of this evidence.

I feel my post has already gone on long enough and like I mentioned earlier, I've only completed 1 year of law school so I'm far from what you would call an expert but that's just some of my thoughts regarding the charges and the evidence, or lack thereof.
 
[quote name='HeSaveDave']lol thanks man. I was only playing though. I have no idea if she is guilty or not obviously. I was just being silly.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I know. I didn't want my post to come off as attack against you. If it seemed that way, I apologize. What my post was trying to illustrate though was how completely asinine the amount of evidence they showed about what she did while Caylee was missing. It was preposterous to present that much evidence on it simply because, as I state in my post before this one, it doesn't establish any elements of 1st degree premeditated murder.

Sure it'd go a long way toward proving she's either a crazy, loony bitch or a shitty mom, but neither of those 2 make you a murderer.

[quote name='dmaul1114']Take a step back and envision a situation where you're being falsely accused of something and the prosecution has a fairly strong circumstantial evidence case.

It's those situations that make the reasonable doubt standard appropriate. The criminal justice system, and the state's right to administer punishments in general, is based on a social contract wherein we all agree only to give up the least possible portion of our freedoms in exchange for safety.

As such the burden is squarely on the state to prove guilt before administering any punishments.

If that mean's some guilty people get off due to weak evidence, so be it. It's better than the alternative of having a lower burden of proof and thus having more innocent people convicted on circumstantial cases.[/QUOTE]

Well put, you were clearly downplaying your understanding of the legal system earlier. ;)
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']
Well put, you were clearly downplaying your understanding of the legal system earlier. ;)[/QUOTE]

Not at all. I don't know much of anything about criminal law, court room procedure etc. So I'm not qualified to give any kind of professional opinion on quality of evidence and arguments etc.

But I do know a lot about the structure and philosophical backing of the criminal justice system as we do learn and teach that in our field! :D
 
Can't they go after her for something else now? I know 1st degree murder is out of the question but there are obvious crimminal activities outside of lying to police. What's the punishment for severe negeclt and dumping the body and letting it rot? Somebody needs to be held acountable.

Also there's so many unaswered questions. If she did drown why cover it up? Why was tape placed around the mouth of a dead girl? Why did the back of the trunk smell like something died in it?
 
[quote name='Rodimus']Can't they go after her for something else now? I know 1st degree murder is out of the question but there are obvious crimminal activities outside of lying to police. What's the punishment for severe negeclt and dumping the body and letting it rot? Somebody needs to be held acountable.
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Well typically they'll charge everything they think they have evidence to get a conviction on. So it's probably unlikely that they have any other charges they think they can prove of that carry enough punishment to bother with since she was acquitted of the murder, manslaughter and abuse charges.

A civil suit is still a possibility though (just like with the OJ case) assuming their are other relatives (the father, grand parents on that side etc.) who'd want to pursue one. I haven't followed the case enough to know what the family involvement in the trial was etc.

That could possibly be proved for wrongful death since the burden of proof in civil trials is preponderance of the evidence (more likely than not that she did it) rather than beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']I've finished my first year of law school and I can give you my opinion for what it's worth.
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That was helpful, thanks.

EDIT: Just clicked through all those evidence photos and yeah, shitty evidence is shitty. They basically had nothing.
 
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[quote name='metaphysicalstyles']She'll be dead in a month. Somebody out there was likely emotionally invested in the outcome of that trial... and will seek vengeance.[/QUOTE]

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[quote name='dmaul1114']Not at all. I don't know much of anything about criminal law, court room procedure etc. So I'm not qualified to give any kind of professional opinion on quality of evidence and arguments etc.

But I do know a lot about the structure and philosophical backing of the criminal justice system as we do learn and teach that in our field! :D[/QUOTE]

I see where you're coming from and from my own experience I can tell you that my undergrad degree in criminal justice didn't prepare me for my Criminal Law course as much as one would assume.

[quote name='Dead of Knight']That was helpful, thanks.

EDIT: Just clicked through all those evidence photos and yeah, shitty evidence is shitty. They basically had nothing.[/QUOTE]

Yep, its much easier to present a case of guilt in the court of public opinion than it is to show it in court.

Another thing to think about. The public ALWAYS thinks someone is guilty when they're accused or charged with a crime. Think of the last high profile case that went the opposite direction of OJ, Casey, Michael Jackson's second accusation of molestation, etc. where the public clearly felt the person wasn't guilty and there was a miscarriage of justice. Yeah, its hard to think of one isn't it? For some reason the public at large seems to always think someone is guilty when they're charged or accused of the crime.

Maybe people feel as if the government can't/won't/doesn't make mistakes? ... Yeah, now that you're done laughing think about how often we accuse the government of screwing up stuff like taxes, road construction, budgets, etc. and yet we as a public seem to always trust and follow the government 100% when it comes to charging people with crimes. Its weird really.

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LOL
 
[quote name='Rodimus']You're not the only one. Tons of people on my FB page are condemning the jury.[/QUOTE]

I guarantee you none of those people have ever actually served on a jury. If people want to be angry, be angry at the prosecution.

[quote name='crushtopher']"Beyond reasonable doubt" - That's the problem with the justice system. There will ALWAYS be doubt in ANY court case. She did it and the jury knows she did it, but they wouldn't convict her because of doubt. Our country is a fucking joke...[/QUOTE]

Others have already made this point I'm sure, but you wouldn't feel that way if you were being accused of a crime you didn't commit. I would rather let someone guilty walk than put someone innocent behind bars every day. Unless you're the universal arbiter of what's true and what isn't true, I'm betting you'd rather live in a country where the government has to make a very compelling case in order to, you know, kill you. Unless you'd rather live in a country where they summarily execute you without a fair trial. Such countries exist, you're welcome to them. I'll keep this one. ;)
 
I agree about not putting someone innocent behind bars, It really truly saddens me knowing that there are innocent people rotting in prison. Can you imagine what that would feel like?
 
Well, she's gotten away with murder once now...what happens after the next broken condom? She's obviously not right in the head -- I imagine she'll end up in prison eventually.
 
Nancy Grace is a menace to society. If I could punch any human being square in the face with no consequences, it may well be her.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Pretty sure Nancy Grace is delusional:
http://www.people.com/people/articl...com:+Top+Headlines)&utm_content=Google+Reader



What evidence?[/QUOTE]

Well, you see there was some smoke, then they presented the mirrors.


[quote name='bvharris']Nancy Grace is a menace to society. If I could punch any human being square in the face with no consequences, it may well be her.[/QUOTE]

There's a reason she stopped being a lawyer and it wasn't because she was too good at it.

Yeah, its wikipedia but still, they do cite their sources (unlike Nancy...)
Prosecutorial misconduct
The Supreme Court of Georgia has twice commented on Grace's conduct as a prosecutor. First, in a 1994 heroin drug trafficking case, Bell v. State, the Court declared a mistrial, saying that Grace had "exceeded the wide latitude of closing argument" by drawing comparisons to unrelated murder and rape cases.[8]
In 1997, the court was more severe, overturning the murder-arson conviction of businessman W. W. Carr in the death of his wife. While the court said its reversal was not due to these transgressions, since the case had turned primarily on circumstantial evidence, it nevertheless concluded "the conduct of the prosecuting attorney in this case demonstrated her disregard of the notions of due process and fairness, and was inexcusable."[9] Carr was freed in 2004 when The Georgia Supreme Court ruled unanimously that Fulton County had waited too long to retry him, thereby unfairly prejudicing his right to a fair trial[10].
Despite upholding the conviction she sought, a panel of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in a 2005 opinion that Grace "played fast and loose" with her ethical duties and failed to "fulfill her responsibilities" as a prosecutor in the 1990 triple murder trial of Herbert Connell Stephens.[11] The court agreed that it was "difficult to conclude that Grace did not knowingly use ... [apparently false] testimony" from a detective that there were no other suspects, despite the existence of outstanding arrest warrants for other men.[11]
 
[quote name='metaphysicalstyles']She'll be dead in a month. Somebody out there was likely emotionally invested in the outcome of that trial... and will seek vengeance.[/QUOTE]


She will be dead because she will O.D. on heroin. She will be extremely depressed from all the negative publicity and will not be able to shake it. She wont be able to get a job and will have to do "novelty" porn to survive.

She will eventually turn to the needle to numb her pain. She will die a sad, lonely death, full of regret and wallowing in sorrow and self pity.
 
Nancy Grace looks like a dragon when she flares her nostrils a snarls her teeth. I don't hate the woman but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little scared of her.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']
There's a reason she stopped being a lawyer and it wasn't because she was too good at it.

Yeah, its wikipedia but still, they do cite their sources (unlike Nancy...)[/QUOTE]

Not to pile on Nancy Grace (actually, yes, to pile on..), but:

"I absolutely cannot believe that Caylee’s death has gone unavenged," she said moments after the reading of the verdicts. "Tot Mom will be walking free."

Law as vengeance instead of justice. I always find it amazing that this woman was at one time allowed to practice law.
 
[quote name='Rodimus']Nancy Grace looks like a dragon when she flares her nostrils a snarls her teeth. I don't hate the woman but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little scared of her.[/QUOTE]

Hey, she did kill some poor woman whose child died. Bitch should have been charged with manslaughter for that little stunt.
 
First off all, Nancy Grace is an ugly man who resembles a parrot.

Secondly, I'd rather live in a system where we are imprisoned by evidence, rather then emotions. What if this chick didn't really do it? Hmm? And we threw her in jail? No one would care, because we all got our instant gratification. Sometimes the system fails, but if it means a few people go free in order to make sure a lot of innocent people are protected (though it fails for them too so it balances out), it's fine by me.

Third, Nancy Grace should start a show with Wendy Williams entitled "2 Ugly Men".

Last, people on facebook/twitter are being beyond gay right now. People are so exciting to join "fuck Casey Anthony" ..some kind of weird event to keep your porch lights on tomorrow? (which has over 1.5 million idiots ..)..and "LIKE THIS AND ILL KILL CASEY ANTHONY". People do this because they feel like they are helping out, when they aren't doing anything. It's easy to do an online "EVENT" to say you do.. but what if you don't have a porch with porch lights? lol.. i mean, come the fuck on people. Saying I LEFT MY PORCH LIGHTS ON does NOTHING. It just provides imbeciles with instant gratification that they accomplished something.

Why is this even in the media? Why wasn't the Saddam Hussein's trial all over the place before we killed him? That was actually more important than this.

Someone start a Facebook event about needing more jobs and lowering taxes. 11 people will "show up" or "like" it.

And when a new Krispy Kreme opens up, there will be lines for 12+ hours.
Yet, people don't do anything when it actually matters.

And Nancy Grace looks like a man.
 
I can't imagine her not living in a personal hell for the next few years. Paranoia of a shank at any given moment in prison followed by vigilantes tracking her every move the second her sentence is over.

We could go on about this being another case over the Sensational American Hype Machine only giving a fuck about attractive white women, but I prefer never speak of this debacle again.
 
Saw this on Fark. If this is all true, how is this not enough evidence to convict her of SOMETHING?:

1. A hair was found in Casey's trunk that showed a chemical only present during decomposition
2. The duct tape used was a brand that was no longer made. A roll of the same duct tape was found in the home.
2.5 Her computer contained searches for "Chloroform" and "How to make Chloroform"
3. The bag used to dispose of the body was part of a matching set found in the home.
3.5 Elevated levels of chloroform were found in the trunk of her car.
4. Casey lied about her daughter being missing for over a month.
5. Casey lied to investigators repeatedly, even going as far as to claim to work at Universal Studios and only admitted to lying after being driven to the studios, entering a building and walking down a hall to a dead end. She then turned to investigators and said "OK, I don't work here".

If this is all true, the prosecution fucked up real bad.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']
If this is all true, the prosecution fucked up real bad.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much. People are going to say (and are already saying) that the defense used every trick in the book to get her off. Well, duh, that's their job. When a case seems open and shut, the fault for the unexpected acquittal almost always falls on the prosecution.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Nancy Grace is a menace to society. If I could punch any human being square in the face with no consequences, it may well be her.[/QUOTE]

Undersigned. She's the first person I would opt to punch in the mouth rather than have an argument with, if given both options.

The basic Nancy Grace "debate" consists of her argument, her opponent's retort, her invalidating anything that didn't come out of her mouth, and a reiteration of her argument except with rage. It's everything I hate in a person.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Saw this on Fark. If this is all true, how is this not enough evidence to convict her of SOMETHING?:

1. A hair was found in Casey's trunk that showed a chemical only present during decomposition
2. The duct tape used was a brand that was no longer made. A roll of the same duct tape was found in the home.
2.5 Her computer contained searches for "Chloroform" and "How to make Chloroform"
3. The bag used to dispose of the body was part of a matching set found in the home.
3.5 Elevated levels of chloroform were found in the trunk of her car.
4. Casey lied about her daughter being missing for over a month.
5. Casey lied to investigators repeatedly, even going as far as to claim to work at Universal Studios and only admitted to lying after being driven to the studios, entering a building and walking down a hall to a dead end. She then turned to investigators and said "OK, I don't work here".

If this is all true, the prosecution fucked up real bad.[/QUOTE]

I know the computer searches, elevated levels of chloroform in the trunk and the lies are true, which I believe should reeeealy be enough to put her away. I mean, the compuer searches ALONE are damning evidence.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Saw this on Fark. If this is all true, how is this not enough evidence to convict her of SOMETHING?:

1. A hair was found in Casey's trunk that showed a chemical only present during decomposition
2. The duct tape used was a brand that was no longer made. A roll of the same duct tape was found in the home.
2.5 Her computer contained searches for "Chloroform" and "How to make Chloroform"
3. The bag used to dispose of the body was part of a matching set found in the home.
3.5 Elevated levels of chloroform were found in the trunk of her car.
4. Casey lied about her daughter being missing for over a month.
5. Casey lied to investigators repeatedly, even going as far as to claim to work at Universal Studios and only admitted to lying after being driven to the studios, entering a building and walking down a hall to a dead end. She then turned to investigators and said "OK, I don't work here".

If this is all true, the prosecution fucked up real bad.[/QUOTE]

Even if true, all of that evidence is circumstantial (to homicide). And moreover, it is enough evidence to convict her of something: providing false information to police.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']I mean, the compuer searches ALONE are damning evidence.[/QUOTE]

Please explain how googling something is sufficient evidence of criminal intent. I wrote a term paper on serial killers for a Criminal Justice class in college, I'd hate for some of the stuff I searched for that to be used against me in a court of law.

That's not to say it doesn't look bad, but it's not concrete evidence of murder like you suggest.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Please explain how googling something is sufficient evidence of criminal intent. I wrote a term paper on serial killers for a Criminal Justice class in college, I'd hate for some of the stuff I searched for that to be used against me in a court of law.

That's not to say it doesn't look bad, but it's not concrete evidence of murder like you suggest.[/QUOTE]

But she is not going to school, and has no reason to randomly look up those kind of things. As well, if you had mudered somebody or had been suspected of mudering somebody weeks within searching "proper stab methods", "how to clean human blood off of walls", etc. then that suggests you were planning it all along.

Obviously Anthony has some screws loose, and the things that she searched at around the time her daughter disappeared is what makes those simple search terms seem super, super suspicious.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Please explain how googling something is sufficient evidence of criminal intent. I wrote a term paper on serial killers for a Criminal Justice class in college, I'd hate for some of the stuff I searched for that to be used against me in a court of law.

That's not to say it doesn't look bad, but it's not concrete evidence of murder like you suggest.[/QUOTE]

In your case though you'd be able to say exactly why you were looking up those things and show your paper as proof.

Did Casey ever say why she was looking up how to make chloroform? When I'm bored and browsing the net, that's not really something that comes to mind for me to search for.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']But she is not going to school, and has no reason to randomly look up those kind of things. As well, if you had mudered somebody or had been suspected of mudering somebody weeks within searching "proper stab methods", "how to clean human blood off of walls", etc. then that suggests you were planning it all along.
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I spent an hour at work last week googling Death By A Thousand Cuts, just because I was randomly curious. I'm not disagreeing with you that it's suspicious, nor that it's damning evidence in the court of public opinion (or even common sense). But I'm telling you that in a court of law, any first year criminal law student should be able to cast sufficient doubt on circumstantial evidence like that.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']This dude is on death row thanks to even less circumstantial evidence than in this case (thanks again Fark):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson[/QUOTE]

True enough, but all that likely shows is that his conviction was helped a great deal by his condemnation in the press and maybe that he was a significantly less sympathetic defendant.

In the end, the jury's decision doesn't need defending. They can acquit with or without any justification for doing so, and are not bound to accept the court's instructions on any point of law or fact. They could've been shown a videotape of the defendant killing the victim and still acquitted. That's how the system works, based on the simple logic that the only thing worse than exonerating the guilty is convicting the innocent.
 
[quote name='whoknows']
Did Casey ever say why she was looking up how to make chloroform? When I'm bored and browsing the net, that's not really something that comes to mind for me to search for.[/QUOTE]
She claimed she was looking up "chlorophyll" instead.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']She claimed she was looking up "chlorophyll" instead.[/QUOTE]

Given my general impression of Casey Anthony's intelligence, I'd be shocked if she knew what Chlorophyll was, even after her lawyers coached her to say it. :roll:

I hope the result for googling "how to make chlorophyll" is "be a fucking plant, moron." :D
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']She claimed she was looking up "chlorophyll" instead.[/QUOTE]

She wanted to know how to make chlorphyll? And no one told her to stfu when she said that?

I've heard some stupid things, but wow.
 
[quote name='whoknows']She wanted to know how to make chlorphyll? And no one told her to stfu when she said that?

I've heard some stupid things, but wow.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if the Google search returned a bunch of pictures of house plants.
 
[quote name='whoknows']She wanted to know how to make chlorphyll? And no one told her to stfu when she said that?

I've heard some stupid things, but wow.[/QUOTE]

I read on Fark it was claimed that she was looking up chlorophyll because she was worried about the plants in the yard poisoning the dog or some asinine shit like that. That's about the shittiest lie I've ever heard.
 
[quote name='whoknows']I hope the prosecution asked her what chlorophyll is.[/QUOTE]

She didn't testify. No sane defense attorney on the planet was going to put that girl anywhere near a witness stand. I'm assuming she made than excuse to police in a prior interview.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']I read on Fark it was claimed that she was looking up chlorophyll because she was worried about the plants in the yard poisoning the dog or some asinine shit like that. That's about the shittiest lie I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]

So she wanted to learn how to make chlorophyll so she could not feed it to her dog?

That's...special.
 
I thought her mom (cindy?) claimed that she, not Casey, was searching for chlorophyll. However, the searches were conducted on Casey's computer and, according to the prosecution, they were conducted when Cindy was at work.
 
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