casual gamer friends you want to strangle -- confess here

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in my view, although yours may differ,a casual gamer is a person who spends their money without research before hand, and then doesn't know why they don't like the games they bought.

I'm friends with quite a few of these people, and it's extremely frustrating to listen to them saying this or that is a bad system because they have it. And then they tell me something that would be counted among the top worst games of all time is their only game for it.

The latest victim is my friend Mike

He just bought an xbox and a GBA

He wanted a smack down game, but because he had the EC W. wrestling game for his PS/1 as his only game, he decided that all Sony systems suck ass, and has vowed never to buy from them again.

So by default he got an xbox, with W. W.E raw-- which he hates because he can't figure out how to play it well enough to get through a single match.

fortunately, he later ended up buying mortal combat deadly alliance on impulse out of nostalgia, and he loves it. Also received monopoly party as a gift, which he thinks is one of the greatest games ever.if not for these two games,I'm certain he would have retired the xbox permanently next to his Sony PS/1

The same day, he bought a GBA system. They had GBA SP systems on the shelf, but he didn't want to paythe extra $30

instead, he spent that extra $30 on a copy of Dragoon ball z-- which he hates. He hasn't been really clear about why he hates it, but the words "too dark" had been spoken at times ;-)

Anyway, I did a very bad thing today

A couple of hours ago, on a tip from one of the other topics here , I bought him the Sega GT/jet set radio future double pack at Circuit City for a penny. The outside of the package is labeled $99.99, and I'm going to use emotional blackmail to make him think I paid that much so he will actually play them.

I'm tired of having a casual gamer as a close friend, and I will make him hard-core if it kills him!

He has humiliated me for the last time ;-)

muehahaha!
 
what really sucks is when one of your friends goes from hardcore gamer to casual gamer. and a fanboy to boot.
 
[quote name='minx']
I'm tired of having a casual gamer as a close friend, and I will make him hard-core if it kills him!

He has humiliated me for the last time ;-)

muehahaha![/quote]

God, good thing I'm not your friend. >_>
 
I want to strangle my casual gamer friends becuase they all play ONLY sports games.I have one friend into RPG's and things.The rest think we're weird.I dunno how they can play the same sports game everyday.All games become repetive,but damn if sports isn't after like 2 games.Atleast MOST Rpg's I can play for the whole week of renting without being bored.I'm going to contridict{SP} myself now cuz My casual friends to enjoy GTA.GTA or Madden{NCAA,NBA,etc} that's it.
 
My friend is too much of a casual gamer. He will convince himself that games like Brute Force, True Crime, and Run like hell are the best games his ever played. Told him to try prince of Persia, ICo, Disgaea, and viewtiful Joe. he won't play ICO or disgaea cause he's never heard of them and thinks prince and veiwtiful Joe are going to suck becasue the main caharacters don't have guns. ](*,)
 
I must confess - I am probably more of a casual gamer. I just don't have time to play games as much as I would like. I work all day, have a girlfriend to spend time with and go out with friends. Weekends are about the only time I can play games.

In the last month and a half however, I have played a lot more. Mainly because I quit my job and was looking for another one. Unfortunately, I will be starting my new job soon and won't have any time again.

I do wnt to point out that I have played games my entire lfe though, and love RPG's. I guess I'm not as bad as your casual gamer friends then. At least I hope so, lol.
 
My cousin pisses me off by trying to tell me MOH:RS, Brute Force, and Conflict Desert Storm are better than Panzer Dragoon Orta, Prince of Persia, and Soul Calibur 2. I sometime have the overwhelming urge to punch his stupid face in.
 
the saga continues......

My friend was very sick over the holidays, so I wasn't able to give him his expansively marked penny present yet

However, I did pick him up the full Japanese version of Capcom vs. SNK 2 for a dollar yesterday{AKA the exhibition 2 disk}

I can't wait to listen to him complain about the lack of fatalities ;-)
 
[quote name='minx']the saga continues......

My friend was very sick over the holidays, so I wasn't able to give him his expansively marked penny present yet

However, I did pick him up the full Japanese version of Capcom vs. SNK 2 for a dollar yesterday{AKA the exhibition 2 disk}

I can't wait to listen to him complain about the lack of fatalities ;-)[/quote]

Please, take Ryu and Hadoken his ass a few times. Show him some true fighting game skill. :D
 
Casual gamers suck. With their insistance on wasting money for the system with the most polygons -- I say let them waste their money, and let their consoles be sold on eBay.

The whole polygon arguement makes me want to spit.

As long as we are being venomous, I also hate dads who buy their 8 year old kids GTA3.

And, I hate the dad I saw in EBG the other day who wanted to buy his 9 year old daughter an XBox... yeah, that seems like the best system for a young lady who doesn't know who Tom Clancy is, and who does't watch football.
 
If your friend likes wrestling then he has lots more problems than buying bad games.

I suggest some Discover Channel therapy.
 
Does anyone else think it's funny that Minx's friend bought an x-box because of one game but bought a GBA instead of a GBA SP to save 30 dollars? :)

[quote name='donssword']And, I hate the dad I saw in EBG the other day who wanted to buy his 9 year old daughter an XBox... yeah, that seems like the best system for a young lady who doesn't know who Tom Clancy is, and who does't watch football.[/quote]

I think the X-box appeals to some non-gamers because it's technologically impressive. When I first got my PS2, my dad tried to talk me into getting an X-box instead. I think he figured that since the X-box has more RAM than the PS2 it was a better machine. He didn't understand that the PS2 has a larger library. My dad's very intelligent, but not being a gamer it took him a while to understand that I wouldn't be able to play the Final Fantasy games on an X-box. I think his reasoning was that if you have a CD or a DVD, it will run in almost any CD or DVD player, so a videogame should run in all videogame machines. I'm not saying that's necessarily the case with the dad that Donssword saw, but it could be a similar situation.

On a related note, I was in an EB games a week or so after Christmas, and just as I was leaving, I overheard a woman saying to one of the store employees, "I bought an N-Gage for my son for Christmas..." I didn't stay to hear whether she was returning it or buying games for it (although the tone of voice sounded like she was complaining) but really, why would you buy your kid an N-Gage? :rolleyes:
 
The whole polygon arguement is absurd. Console capabilities have nothing to do with game quality... Tao Feng vs. Virtua Fighter 4 anyone?

I certainly hope the big 3 watch their competition a lot more closely this next go round for technology capabilities, so this arguement can die. And if the PS3 still has poor aliasing, then I think I will just quit gaming and move to a monestary.
 
[quote="Amanda the Red MageI think the X-box appeals to some non-gamers because it's technologically impressive. When I first got my PS2, my dad tried to talk me into getting an X-box instead. I think he figured that since the X-box has more RAM than the PS2 it was a better machine. He didn't understand that the PS2 has a larger library. My dad's very intelligent, but not being a gamer it took him a while to understand that I wouldn't be able to play the Final Fantasy games on an X-box. I think his reasoning was that if you have a CD or a DVD, it will run in almost any CD or DVD player, so a videogame should run in all videogame machines. I'm not saying that's necessarily the case with the dad that Donssword saw, but it could be a similar situation.
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I think I understand why your dad preferred the Xbox--because it has "newer" technology so he figured it would last a little bit longer. I think he realized that the Xbox came after PS2 and so he could stretch his dollar a little bit by getting the newer machine.. I don't blame him, it was logical thinking.

Unfortunately he didn't know that the two systems offer different games thaqt appeal to different people. I've played a number of PS2 RPG's and really didn't like them. I own both a PS2 and Xbox and the PS2 really gathers dust. It has a couple games that I like but overall I just prefer Xbox games, thats all.

to AvidPs2GMR - About your friends that only play sports games.. I guess they just really like the competition. Did you try giving them a good multiplayer game like Super Smash Bros Melee or something?

to st0neface - Your cousin just has different tastes, thats it. Personally I didn't care for Panzer Dragoon Orta. I heard it was good, and forced myself to play it, but I just don't like rail shooting that much. On the other hand I played Brute Force up until the last level despite it being a flawed game. Going from that I'd say for me Brute Force was better than Panzer Dragoon Orta. Prince of Persia is awesome though, I agree with you there.

I don't really have anything against casual gamers, in the end video games are just a hobby. Minx has a right to be pissed though, and her story was pretty funny.. people that don't do any research before buying anything are just stupid.
 
Casual gamers may suck, but without them the videogame industry probably wouldn't be as big as it is now. You can at least thank them for that ;)
 
I wonder when Video Games will really get the respect they deserve as an art form (well some..).

Some games though, hurt this view because of the tremendous negative media attention (*cough*doomGTA3mortalKombat*cough*).

BTW, nice name bfg9k.

Ahhh, reminds me of days and nights spent playing DooM II for endless hours. Hearing the music and running around the corner into a imp that is biting my head still can make me jump to this day. Mmmmmmm.
 
I have a question that's a tad off-topic, but how did you get that thing for a penny? Are they just demos? Or full games? On one disc or two?
 
My casual gamer friend has uttered the words "I dont need any more games" he has like 7. and ONLY an X-Box. hes afraid to get a gba because he thinks a new ons coming out next week. and he calls me sad.
 
[quote name='sandwiches99']I think I understand why your dad preferred the Xbox--because it has "newer" technology so he figured it would last a little bit longer. I think he realized that the Xbox came after PS2 and so he could stretch his dollar a little bit by getting the newer machine.. I don't blame him, it was logical thinking.
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But IIRC at the time the X-Box cost a lot more than the PS2 (this was the Christmas that the X-Box and Gamecube had just been released). That's what really surprised me. I inherited my cheapass-ness from my dad, so it was strange that he would want to get a more expensive system (he was buying it as a Christmas present for me, I wasn't paying). I even said I'd be happy with a PSOne, since I felt bad that he was spending so much on a game system. But new technology does weird things to people. (weird but good if you're on the receiving end. ;) "A PS1 would be fine...." "NO!!! I'm buying you a PS2!!!" "Uhh.... OK!!!" :))
 
[quote name='Amanda the Red Mage']
But IIRC at the time the X-Box cost a lot more than the PS2 (this was the Christmas that the X-Box and Gamecube had just been released). That's what really surprised me. I inherited my cheapass-ness from my dad, so it was strange that he would want to get a more expensive system (he was buying it as a Christmas present for me, I wasn't paying). I even said I'd be happy with a PSOne, since I felt bad that he was spending so much on a game system. But new technology does weird things to people. (weird but good if you're on the receiving end. ;) "A PS1 would be fine...." "NO!!! I'm buying you a PS2!!!" "Uhh.... OK!!!" :))[/quote]

Whats IIRC? When was the Xbox more expensive than the PS2?
 
[quote name='Liu Bei'][quote name='minx']
I'm tired of having a casual gamer as a close friend, and I will make him hard-core if it kills him!

He has humiliated me for the last time ;-)

muehahaha![/quote]

God, good thing I'm not your friend. >_>[/quote]

I don't know. I think quite a few people would be excited by having the words Minx, friend and hardcore in the same sentence.
 
[quote name='Gothic_Walrus'][quote name='minx']the saga continues......

My friend was very sick over the holidays, so I wasn't able to give him his expansively marked penny present yet

However, I did pick him up the full Japanese version of Capcom vs. SNK 2 for a dollar yesterday{AKA the exhibition 2 disk}

I can't wait to listen to him complain about the lack of fatalities ;-)[/quote]

Please, take Ryu and Hadoken his ass a few times. Show him some true fighting game skill. :D[/quote]

The SOUL STILL BURNS!! Oops. Wrong game.

How about " You've got a lot to learn before you beat me... try again kid. BWA HA HA HA... Sagat (all with chopply, poorly streamed audio from the Turbo CD when playing Fighting Street. (Yes, there actually was a domestic release of Street Fighter before Street Fighter 2 came out.)
 
[quote name='Amanda the Red Mage'] but really, why would you buy your kid an N-Gage? :roll:[/quote]

Um....because you don't love them anymore?
 
I have two casual gamer friends and they both drive me crazy.

#1 is a chick. All she will play is music games, fighters, Mario Party or The Sims. That's it. She did play Final Fantasy VII on the PSX, put in like, 100 hours, never finished it then erased her save game file and started all over again only to not finish it and restart it a third time. She's done this more than that. How on earth can you do something like this????

#2 is a guy. He thinks he is hardcore but he's not. Like one person said about the friend that had seven XBox games and didn't need anymore - this guy is the same way. He has about that many (on XBox no less) and says he needs no more. He plays the same ones over and over again. He claims he likes non mainstream games and those that get low scores but still plays Halo over and over.... I've tried to introduce new gaming into his life with some cheapie suggestions like Gunvalkyrie or true nu-classics like KOTOR but he always says "I don't take recommendations from nobody and dont buy games because the box art is pretty like you do." Err whatever...

Oh wait! There's a number THREE

#3 - guy. Has a PSone. Won't upgrade. Traded all his games in for a tv remote except for two wrestling titles. We used to play hours of Sega Genesis games together like Star Control, Street Fighter 2 and others but now that he's 2 he says he's too old for "games" which are "kids stuff". Except wrestling apparently. I don't think he's a gamer anymore.
 
[quote name='kittycatgirl2k']...#3 - guy. Has a PSone. Won't upgrade. Traded all his games in for a tv remote except for two wrestling titles...[/quote]

You can't just say something like that and then not tell us what kind of remote he got.
 
im the one with the seven game friend. he also considers himself hardcore beacuse he beat halo on legendary. wow. he beat a game on highest dificulty. its kind of sad when in comparison, my game collection is easily over 300 and have beaten a score of games
 
Just my opinion, but I think everyone needs to be thankful that there are so many casual gamers out there. If everyone wasn't so busy buying games because of name recognition or advertising, do you think you could really buy a game like Beyond Good and Evil for $9.99? If everyone was as "hardcore" of a gamer as we are, would that really be any fun? I like to collect all sorts of games (especially RPG's) and I have a pretty vast collection of games and systems, and I take gaming very seriously, but without the majority of gamers (which I guess would be considered casual), not only would these games never get made, but would you really feel as proud about your gaming accomplishments and/or collection if everybody had comparable achievements? You'd just be lost in the mix again. Being a hardcore gamer makes you (cough) special, and you should appreciate that instead of being arrogant about it. So what if your friend made a bonehead purchase? This is your passion.....not theirs......
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']im the one with the seven game friend. he also considers himself hardcore beacuse he beat halo on legendary. wow. he beat a game on highest dificulty. its kind of sad when in comparison, my game collection is easily over 300 and have beaten a score of games[/quote]

You have over 300 games, and you have only beaten 20 of them?
 
[quote name='PuNkNeB']Just my opinion, but I think everyone needs to be thankful that there are so many casual gamers out there. If everyone wasn't so busy buying games because of name recognition or advertising, do you think you could really buy a game like Beyond Good and Evil for $9.99? If everyone was as "hardcore" of a gamer as we are, would that really be any fun? I like to collect all sorts of games (especially RPG's) and I have a pretty vast collection of games and systems, and I take gaming very seriously, but without the majority of gamers (which I guess would be considered casual), not only would these games never get made, but would you really feel as proud about your gaming accomplishments and/or collection if everybody had comparable achievements? You'd just be lost in the mix again. Being a hardcore gamer makes you (cough) special, and you should appreciate that instead of being arrogant about it. So what if your friend made a bonehead purchase? This is your passion.....not theirs......[/quote]

I know this is an overused reference, but casual gamers also allow junk like Enter the Matrix to flourish. So you're saying you'd rather have good games be unsuccessful and bad games do well?
 
i forgot what a score was. ive beaten a lot, but i dont play to beat so i dont always finish games. i just like to enjoy them, and maybe eventually beat them.
 
The guy with the tv remote:
It was some stupid remote with a tiny LCD screen on it and buttons that lit up. It was ridiculously difficult to navigate with and was gigantic, makes the big Xbox controller seem like a dwarf and heavy as hell. It was (and is) the most useless thing I have ever seen since he could never figure out how to program it. :D

On casual gamers in general:
They are in essence, a good thing for the market. Its healthy to have a large user base, just look at all the niche "cool" titles the PS2 gets that the other systems have no chance at. The more people that own consoles, the more likely the vast majority are going to be casual gamers. Unfortunately this causes gems like Prince of Persia and Beyond Good and Evil to tank and crap like Enter the Matrix to live on forever.

On casual gamers on a personal level:
rant on: I don't mind if they just don't purchase *other* games, that's not what ticks me off. Its the fact that they won't even TRY other games because it looks "Stupid" or whatever, or even worse making fun of YOU because you decided to pick up that copy of Guitaroo-Man that was hiding out at Circuit City. Or they think they are hardcore (own maybe seven games), rave about them endlessly, refuse to take suggestions and try Squareenix games because "they sold out with FFVII by making it anime" and when you explain that Chrono Trigger even had a famous anime designer do the characters for the game they respond with "16 bit can't be anime". ARGH!!! I feel frustrated just explaining it.
/end of rant

On not "beating" games:
I have roughly 130 games for "Next-Gen" (I guess it would really be "current-gen") systems. Only about 15 of these I have "completed", I'll say 16 because I spent over 90 hours on DOA: Xtreme Beach Volleyball alone. Its just so...soothing. And when the temp is in the single digits down to 1 degree out and snow and ice everywhere you turn, its kind of nice visiting a place full of sun and beach locales. :)
 
She did play Final Fantasy VII on the PSX, put in like, 100 hours, never finished it then erased her save game file and started all over again only to not finish it and restart it a third time. She's done this more than that. How on earth can you do something like this????
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that baffles / irritates me... seems like something an 8 year old would do
seriously, i'd slap that girl
 
Agh, my friend is really, really annoying. He was an above average gamer, but to be "cool", he has abandoned gaming. Which is actually good for me, cuz I'm pickin' up Prime and Prince of Persia for 20 bucks each from him. But anyway, he now thinks that the Xbox is the BEST system ever, because of Halo. Now Halo's a sweet game, but my friend has a PS2, GC, and XB. He has ONE PS2 game. ONE. And he rants about how the Xbox is AMAZING. AMAAAAZING. He has played a grand total of maybe 10 PS2 games. None of which are that good, besides Vice City. So everytime I get into a game related argument with him (which is rare these days), he just says Halo, Halo, Halo, Halo over and over and over again. Bah. Just wanted to rant.
 
[quote name='sandwiches99']Whats IIRC? When was the Xbox more expensive than the PS2?[/quote]

IIRC is "If I Remember Correctly." In other words, I'm not sure that the Xbox was more expensive than the PS2. Anyhow, this would have been back when the XBox had just been released, and the PS2 had been out for about a year. (Anyone remember what their prices would have been at this point?)

[quote name='kittycatgirl2k']She did play Final Fantasy VII on the PSX, put in like, 100 hours, never finished it then erased her save game file and started all over again only to not finish it and restart it a third time. She's done this more than that. How on earth can you do something like this????
[/quote]

I'm actually guilty of this. If I start a game, then get distracted from it (because of another game, or because I'm too busy with school, or whatever) I can't just pick up from where I left off several months later. I need to start over to remember what I've already played. That said, if I had to restart a game three times, I'd give up and say the game wasn't for me.

And how do you put 100 hours into FFVII?
 
Sounds like the term casual gamer is being used in place of STUPID gamer.

A casual gamer, to me, is somoene that just doesn't play all the time. But they like games. They CAN make smart decisions on what to buy.

Stupid gamers are just stupid people that play games.

:)
 
[quote name='Amanda the Red Mage'][quote name='sandwiches99']Whats IIRC? When was the Xbox more expensive than the PS2?[/quote]

IIRC is "If I Remember Correctly." In other words, I'm not sure that the Xbox was more expensive than the PS2. Anyhow, this would have been back when the XBox had just been released, and the PS2 had been out for about a year. (Anyone remember what their prices would have been at this point?)[/quote]

Oh ok. The Xbox and PS2 have both been the same prices at all times. They were both $299 until May 2002 when the prices dropped to $199 at the same time. So when the Xbox was released, they were both the same price: $299.
 
They are furries or into bestiality, and want to imagine the process while they are doing it, and including the characters in thier party into thier little mental pictures?

That's about the only reason I could think of. Just having to get the chocobos so that I could get Knights of the Round drove me crazy.
 
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