Champion of child rights resigns from Congress after naughty emails with teenage boys

schuerm, let me address one more implication of your post (yet another op-ed; have you ever come up with a thought on your own, dude?).

You suggest that Democrats are hypocrites for "breaking" this scandal (though they did not). I made my case above as to why none of the comparisons are valid ones.

Nevertheless, let's make two assumptions that are just dead wrong: (1) the Democrats exposed the Foley scandal, and (2) that they are hypocrites for doing so, given past sex scandals of their own.

So, in short, let's assume that you're completely right in your argument. A significant stretch of the imagination, to be sure, but bear with me.

If the Democrats are responsible, and the Democrats are hypocrites, what do we do with Foley then? Should he not be forced to resign, or should he not face criminal charges (should he be found to have done something illegal, as he, truth be told, hasn't yet)? Would we argue that two wrongs (lenient treatment and party-based coverups) make a right? Should Hastert and Reynolds not face any scrutiny for their part in hiding the truth of Foley's behavior?

In short, shall we continue to perpetuate the notion that Congress is a place exclusively for the corrupt and power-hungry, or would it be preferrable to work, as a participating member of a Democracy, to demand that people that corrupt, and people who place the value of party solidarity and perceptions of strength over the safety of our nation's children, leave office at the least? What, if we assume all you say is true, shall we do to react to the Foley case? Shall we do nothing, or give him a slap on the wrist, because it's "historical precedent?"

Or shall we do what's right?
 
apparently now he was molested and is gay:

Former Rep. Mark Foley was molested by a clergyman when he was between the ages of 13 and 15, his attorney said Tuesday amid allegations that the congressman exchanged inappropriate e-mails and instant messages with teen congressional pages.

Attorney David Roth said Foley had never had sexual contact with a minor and said any assertion that Foley is a pedophile is "categorically false."

Roth would not release details of the alleged molestation, saying only that making it public "is part of Mark's recovery" and that Foley would discuss it further when he is released from a center where he's being treated for alcoholism and mental issues. It will be at least 30 days before he is discharged, Roth said. (Watch the attorney explain that Foley is not a pedophile -- 2:07 Video)

Roth added that "Mark Foley wants you to know he is a gay man."
 
[quote name='mykevermin']schuerm, let me address one more implication of your post (yet another op-ed; have you ever come up with a thought on your own, dude?).

You suggest that Democrats are hypocrites for "breaking" this scandal (though they did not). I made my case above as to why none of the comparisons are valid ones.

Nevertheless, let's make two assumptions that are just dead wrong: (1) the Democrats exposed the Foley scandal, and (2) that they are hypocrites for doing so, given past sex scandals of their own.

So, in short, let's assume that you're completely right in your argument. A significant stretch of the imagination, to be sure, but bear with me.

If the Democrats are responsible, and the Democrats are hypocrites, what do we do with Foley then? Should he not be forced to resign, or should he not face criminal charges (should he be found to have done something illegal, as he, truth be told, hasn't yet)? Would we argue that two wrongs (lenient treatment and party-based coverups) make a right? Should Hastert and Reynolds not face any scrutiny for their part in hiding the truth of Foley's behavior?

In short, shall we continue to perpetuate the notion that Congress is a place exclusively for the corrupt and power-hungry, or would it be preferrable to work, as a participating member of a Democracy, to demand that people that corrupt, and people who place the value of party solidarity and perceptions of strength over the safety of our nation's children, leave office at the least? What, if we assume all you say is true, shall we do to react to the Foley case? Shall we do nothing, or give him a slap on the wrist, because it's "historical precedent?"

Or shall we do what's right?[/quote]

I didn't say they were hypocrites for exposing it. It should be exposed. What this man did is disgusting and wrong. You act smart but you can't even comprehend a simple article? Read the article vermin.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']I didn't say they were hypocrites for exposing it. It should be exposed. What this man did is disgusting and wrong. You act smart but you can't even comprehend a simple article? Read the article vermin.[/QUOTE]

So you did not say it. You merely linked and emphasize (by italicizing) the words of someone who did.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']You act smart but you can't even comprehend a simple article? Read the article vermin.[/QUOTE]

Don't be a fool; I have a post on this very page reacting to the article. I'm still waiting for you to tell me who Dan Crane is and what Mel Reynolds did after his sentence was commuted.
 
[quote name='camoor']:shock:

Is that his new campaign slogan?[/QUOTE]

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Notice something funny about the picture? It's kinda subtle, and escaped me for a moment - I haven't had my coffee yet.

Let's be clear about something: the party that promotes "demanding accountability" has been scrambling around, spending more time looking for a common narrative thread to rest on instead of getting to the heart of the matter. Instead of accepting responsibility for what he did, Foley has now claimed to be a (1) previously molested (2) alcoholic (3) homosexual.

I can't speak to the first two, but if a male adult that molests young girls is not referred to as a "heterosexual," let's not fool ourselves: a male who molests young boys is not a "homosexual." Both are pedophiles, and both are, as a result of their willingness to act on their sexual impusles, repulsively wrong. Some people areuniversally off the sexual roll call in the US: this includes everyone who isn't a consenting adult human. To try to blame this on homosexuality is more absurd than Newt Gingrich's assertion that they didn't come forward earlier because they didn't want to be accused of "gay bashing."
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
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Notice something funny about the picture? It's kinda subtle, and escaped me for a moment - I haven't had my coffee yet.
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Allright; enough with you! :lol:

Truth be told, Foley looks kinda like the singer from Erasure in that photo.

So, I found a blog post (so as to be clear that this is some hack's musings, much like my own; I prefer to contrast myself with someone like scheurm, who posts op-ed after op-ed like it's bible truth) today regarding how we should go about getting to the bottom of who knew what, and when, with regards to the Foley scandal.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=7410

Since the Foley issue is a big deal, and people want answers to these serious questions, I have a modest proposal.

Let’s waterboard Foley, Hastert, Boehner, Reynolds, and all of their aides, as well as anyone else in the GOP leadership. After all, they all voted for it, it is the best way to get answers (really! Dean Barnett said so!), and it isn’t like it is torture.

I support this immediate intelligence gathering operation. The safety of our children hinges on our ability to ‘ask questions.’
 
In 1983, then-Democratic Rep. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts was caught in a similar situation. In his case, Studds had sex with a male teenage page -- something Foley hasn't been charged with.[/B]

Did Studds express contrition? Resign? Quite the contrary. He rejected Congress' censure of him and continued to represent his district until his retirement in 1996.

In 1989, Rep. Barney Frank (news, bio, voting record), also of Massachusetts, admitted he'd lived with Steve Gobie, a male prostitute who ran a gay sex-for-hire ring out of Frank's apartment. Frank, it was later discovered, used his position to fix 33 parking tickets for Gobie.

What happened to Frank? The House voted 408-18 to reprimand him -- a slap on the wrist. Today he's an honored Democratic member of Congress, much in demand as a speaker and "conscience of the party."


So you don't look more like an idiot...

in 1983 when Gerry Studd (D) was caught in a page sex scandel another Rep. Dan Crane (R ) was also caught with a page. Both were censured by the House, neither resigned. So any moral superiority you are trying to established simply won't fly.

But both of these "gotchas" actually further highlight the problems of the GOP Leadership. When Dems were in charge they actually investigated and censured fellow members for wrong doing. Something today's GOP doesn't do.

Nice try but you failed.
 
Scandals from two decades ago directy pertain to scandals today and completely excuse Mark Foley's conduct! Oh wait, NO THEY DON'T.
 
yep.... like i said

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it's indisputable

ANYone trying to point to 'the other party' on this one is just hopelessly lost and utterly incapable of processing complex logical thought.

fact-a-mundo

Republican criminality is legion

ABC investigative journalist Brian Ross:

Ross dismissed suggestions by some Republicans that the news was disseminated as part of a smear campaign against Mr. Foley.

“I hate to give up sources, but to the extent that I know the political parties of any of the people who helped us, it would be the same party,” Mr. Ross said, referring to Republicans.


ABC producer Maddy Sauer:

They were passed to a colleague of mine from a source, not someone from a Democratic campaign, a source on the Hill. And when we talked to Foley’s office about those emails, they seemed to know all about them. “It’s no big deal. He is overly friendly. He’s overly engaging. If he’s guilty of anything, that’s all he’s guilty of. He’s very close with the pages. He has worked with the page program for some time.”

So we published that story, and then almost immediately we began receiving emails from former pages, some going back as far as five years, who said this is the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more here.
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read it and weep, Republitards

your finger pointing and excuse farming is too pathetic to express via human language
 
Yeah, it's the Democrats...

Totally swiped from another site
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year-old girl on the Internet.

* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year-old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year-old girl and was sentenced to 10 years’ probation.

* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year-old boy.

* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.

* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13- and 14-year-old girls.

* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year-old girls.

* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the Internet.

* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year-old girls.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year-old girl he murdered.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years’ probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year-old girl.

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year-old black girl, which produced a child.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year-old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

* Republican activist Lawrence E. King Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and
sentenced to one month in jail.

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his stepdaughter.

* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police
on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year-old boy and possession of child pornography.

* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year-old babysitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

* Republican talk-show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11-year-old girl.

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year-old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the Internet from a 14-year-old girl.

* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year-old boy.

* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e., exposing himself to children).

* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year-old girl.

* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a boy.

* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6 months in prison.

* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer
and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the Internet.

* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.

* Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year-old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year-old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']What makes me sad is that we're commenting more over the fact of what party did what versus the actual act.[/QUOTE]

Well the act itself isn't inherently political.

I've heard discussion on whether is is pedophilia (I don't think it is) but everyone knows it is wrong.
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']this is as 'republican' as a scandal can get
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Really? According to Fox News, the guy's a democrat.

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[quote name='mykevermin']
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that cant be real can it....it just seems so low and slimeballish, kinda like a child molester
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']that cant be real can it....it just seems so low and slimeballish, kinda like a child molester[/quote]

It's Bill O'Reilly and Fox News.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']What makes me sad is that we're commenting more over the fact of what party did what versus the actual act.[/QUOTE]

That's the absurdity of politics; then again, it's also an indication that it's pretty clear what Foley did was universally frowned upon (to put it lightly).

Like William Jefferson a few months ago, the issue wasn't about his alleged misconduct - $90,000 in the freezer was evidence that something was way wrong. The issue with him ended up becoming about seizure of evidence and police procedure.

I think it's very important to find out who knew what - we know that Hastert and Reynolds (well, Reynolds ain't a congressman anymore, I don't think) knew at *bare minimum* one year ago. I couldn't, in good conscience, vote for anyone witholding that kind of information, or covering it up. This includes the Democrats; I despite "one issue" voters (you'll mostly find that as the pro-life/christian voting bloc), but a politician whose views I supported, if they were involved in a coverup, would not receive my vote. I wouldn't giove it to the other candidate by any means; I probably just wouldn't vote.
 
Guess who's a liar?

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A senior congressional aide said Wednesday he told House Speaker Dennis Hastert's office about worrisome conduct between former Rep. Mark Foley with teenage pages more than three years ago, long before officials have acknowledged becoming aware of the issue.

Kirk Fordham made his comments to The Associated Press in an interview as a Kentucky Republican canceled a campaign fundraising event with Hastert. Rep. Ron Lewis said he wants to know the facts behind a scandal that has roiled Republicans since last week.

''I'm taking the speaker's words at face value,'' Lewis said in an interview. ''I have no reason to doubt him. But until this is cleared up, I want to know the facts.

''If anyone in our leadership has done anything wrong, then I will be the first in line to condemn it.''

Taken together, the comments by Fordham and the actions by Lewis added to the political uncertainty surrounding Hastert and fellow Republicans five weeks before midterm elections in which their control of the House will be tested.

Hastert's office did not immediately respond to either development.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/...&en=89a8df813bad929f&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out, you miserable piece of shit.
 
ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER

FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET

A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser.

The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday.

ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names."

SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18."

ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote"

But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange.

A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.

Developing...
 
[quote name='schuerm26']messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place [size=+2]before[/size] and after the 18th birthday.[/QUOTE]

It's disgraceful enough that you can't even come up with a rebuttal on your own.

It's even more pitiful when you consider that I brought up some god-DAMN good criticisms of the pitiful points you raise, and you ignore them and continue to post in here as if you have any credibility at all.

Sarang went to bat for you and told us all who Dan Crane was, and why it's relevant to your mention of Gerry Studds. Now, why don't you tell us what happened after Mel Reynold's racketeering sentence was commuted? Huh? Huh? Can you?
 
OK, so if the kid was a legal adult (and who knows what jurisdiction we're dealing with anyways), he resigned because he's gay and had an extramarital affair.

I want to see reaction to this here (if it's true), so I can see who is critical because he was a minor, and who is critical because he wanted to get with an 18yo man.

And if it is true that he was of legal age regardless of jurisdiction, does Hastert knowing three years ago mattered above and beyond the fact he lied to the public?
 
Foley has always been single. No extramarital nothin' here. He, if we assume this to be true, resigned because he was outed as being a gay man.

If it were that simple, why wouldn't he have said as much? He may not have saved his congressional seat, but he could have salvaged much of his character.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER

FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET

A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser.

The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday.

ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names."

SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18."

ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote"

But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange.

A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.

Developing...
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If this is true (big if as it is Matt Drudge), he's still guilty of the same thing Bill Clinton was, abuse of power to gain sexual favors (or attempt to gain them) from a young intern/page who looked at them as the boss.
 
CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats. This source, an ally of Edmund, also adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund.

The news come on the heels that former FBI Chief Louis Freeh has been named to investigate the mess.

http://www.drudgereport.com/page.htm

 
it's good to know who the people are here, who would be OK with a full grown man seducing their 17/18 year old son.

seeing lots of excuses being made and a lot of pedophile defending

i also find it endlessly amusing when someone posts/links to drudge as if it's an actual news source
lmfao

another interesting note to consider

Report: Pages nervous around Foley in '95

WASHINGTON, Oct. 4 (UPI) -- A former U.S. House of Representatives page said coworkers were uneasy about former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley's behavior in his congressional freshman year in 1995.
"Mark Foley knew that he could get away with this type of behavior with male pages because he was a congressman," said Beck-Heyman. "But many people on Capitol Hill," including many Republican staff members, "have known for over 11 years about what was going on and chose to do nothing."
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061004-064058-6521r

Hmmmm... 95?!? ELEVEN YEARS?! That means the Republican leadership knew about Foley DURING Ken Starr's failed attempt to bring down President Clinton for having an extramarital affair.

Hypocrisy without end.
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[quote name='PKRipp3r']it's good to know who the people are here, who would be OK with a full grown man seducing their 17/18 year old son.
[/QUOTE]

If the kid is 18, he can do whatever he chooses. Most conservative families would disown the kid anyways, so what does it matter?

And for God's sake, show some proper use of formatting.
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']it's good to know who the people are here, who would be OK with a full grown man seducing their 17/18 year old son.

seeing lots of excuses being made and a lot of pedophile defending

i also find it endlessly amusing when someone posts/links to drudge as if it's an actual news source
lmfao

another interesting note to consider

Report: Pages nervous around Foley in '95

WASHINGTON, Oct. 4 (UPI) -- A former U.S. House of Representatives page said coworkers were uneasy about former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley's behavior in his congressional freshman year in 1995.
"Mark Foley knew that he could get away with this type of behavior with male pages because he was a congressman," said Beck-Heyman. "But many people on Capitol Hill," including many Republican staff members, "have known for over 11 years about what was going on and chose to do nothing."
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20061004-064058-6521r

Hmmmm... 95?!? ELEVEN YEARS?! That means the Republican leadership knew about Foley DURING Ken Starr's failed attempt to bring down President Clinton for having an extramarital affair.

Hypocrisy without end.
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[/quote]

If your going to post something, you might want to not edit out that there might be a conflict of interest in what the person is saying.

Beck-Heyman is a graduate student in clinical psychology at George Washington University and told the Post he was Republican but now works with the Democrats
 
[quote name='schuerm26']If your going to post something, you might want to not edit out that there might be a conflict of interest in what the person is saying.

Beck-Heyman is a graduate student in clinical psychology at George Washington University and told the Post he was Republican but now works with the Democrats[/QUOTE]

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you people are HILARIOUS!!!!

please don't stop posting this stuff.

i'm loving every second of it
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']
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you people are HILARIOUS!!!!

please don't stop posting this stuff.

i'm loving every second of it[/quote]

what is the point of even posting? Everything to you that doesn't support your side is automatically false, everything that does is automatically true. If you can't even see there might be a conflict of interest in her statement then why should i even bother with anything you say?
 
[quote name='schuerm26']what is the point of even posting? Everything to you that doesn't support your side is automatically false, everything that does is automatically true. If you can't even see there might be a conflict of interest in her statement then why should i even bother with anything you say?[/QUOTE]

How 'bout that Mel Reynolds? Huh?
 
[quote name='schuerm26']what is the point of even posting? Everything to you that doesn't support your side is automatically false, everything that does is automatically true. If you can't even see there might be a conflict of interest in her statement then why should i even bother with anything you say?[/QUOTE]

you shouldn't.

stop caring.

;)

i notice you have trouble with that

(i provided a link to the story, btw.. for mature human adults to click on and read in full. it's called 'netiquette'. cute, huh?!?)

lmfao
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']it's good to know who the people are here, who would be OK with a full grown man seducing their 17/18 year old son.[/quote]

Chill dude. The mutant reindeer thing was a joke. It was funny just because someone actually sat down and took the time to write out that insanity.
 
[quote name='cochesecochese']If we're going to start roleplaying on this board then I at least get to be the good dancer.[/QUOTE]

i'm not mad at that

just don't leave your phone in my car after you get done banging paris
 
Now three more pages have accused Foley per MSNBC. Republicans blaming Democrats and ABC can stick it up their ass. Blaming others instead of taking the blame for something that YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IS WEAK. I hope Hastert loses.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']Your a moron man.[/QUOTE]
One would figure, considering the fact that you're so vocal around these parts of the internet, that you would at least make an attempt of not making yourself such an easy target.
 
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