Christian leader accidentally hires gay prostitute from gay prostitute website.

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Happens to my gay friends all the time. They all complain about how every time they go to a gay website to meet gay people they end up hanging out with gay people.

The Family Research Council is the political wing of the Focus on the Family James Dobson joint. Ultra socially conservative yadda yadda. The FRC spun off Focus in the 80's because there was concern that the lobbying efforts may cause Focus's tax exemption status to be challenged (how quaint they were back then).
"I think there would be a place for criminal sanctions against homosexual behavior." - Peter Sprigg, VP of Policy Studies at the FRC
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Like whoa.

Anywho, one of the co-founders of the FRC, George Rekers, apparently hurt his back and hired a dood to carry his luggage during a trip to Europe. He found the young man via rentboy.com. A synopsis of the young gentleman's profile page:
The pictures on the Rentboy.com profile show a shirtless young man with delicate features, guileless eyes, and sun-kissed, hairless skin. The profile touts his "smooth, sweet, tight ass" and "perfectly built 8 inch cock (uncut)" and explains he is "sensual," "wild," and "up for anything" - as long you ask first.
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The profile pictures include a man giving another man oral sex.

Here comes the self-hating. "Rekers claims that he only found out the fellow was a hooker halfway through the trip." That didn't stop him from trying to hire the young man again. Emails to the young man from Rekers:
"I'd like to propose another trip to Rome, Italy, for a week or more," Rekers wrote in an email dated March 21 obtained by New Times. "This is so exciting to have a nice Travel Assistant and traveling companion! Wow! I'm so glad I met you."

"I called and talked to the reservation guy in London and reserved a room with two twin beds," Rekers wrote on March 26.

"Now that I'm packed, tomorrow I'll work on completing my income tax return," Rekers wrote two days later. "Not fun... But I'll just remind myself that the fun trip is coming soon."
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Seriously, is every Christian man in a religious position of power gay or what? I mean shit, I was thinking of starting a running tally thread.
 
Somebody should do some stats for that. Obviously every anti-gay person isn't themselves gay, but it seems like a lot of the most vehemently anti-gay people (many of the legislators and leaders) are doing the gayest shit.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']never heard of him, but cool story brah[/QUOTE]

My favorite part is how he quotes one guy, then talks about a totally different individual. I mean, if this guy is so vehemently anti-gay, then there's gotta be a quote or two from him that would be more worthy of this story?
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Is speed talking about two different Rekers?[/QUOTE]
you expect more from unclebob?

as for the actual story, what is there to say? It saddens/angers me that there are such hypocritical people in our churches/religious organizations.
It's one thing to be a religious leader and slip up now and then by, say, getting pissed and cursing in front of some church members/kids. It's another to be a high up member of an openly anti-gay group and then do such a thing as this.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']My favorite part is how he quotes one guy, then talks about a totally different individual.[/quote]
I just pulled the quote while reading up on FRC's history. The quoted is a current member of FRC and I thought it was pretty indicative of their organization. But if that's a necessary part I left out, then a little about Mr. Rekers.

Rekers was an expert witness in a 2004 case involving gay adoption in Arkansas, which had banned LGBT people from adopting in 1999. In December 2004, Pulaski County Circuit Court judge Timothy Fox ruled against the state of Arkansas. Furthermore, he called Rekers' testimony "extremely suspect." He also accused Rekers of testifying solely for promoting his "own personal agenda."

In 2008, Rekers was also an expert witness in In re: Gill, a case defending Florida's gay adoption ban. Miami-Dade Circuit Court Judge Cindy Lederman ruled against the state. In her decision, she said "Dr. Rekers’ testimony was far from a neutral and unbiased recitation of the relevant scientific evidence. Dr. Rekers’ beliefs are motivated by his strong ideological and theological convictions that are not consistent with the science. Based on his testimony and demeanor at trial, the court can not consider his testimony to be credible nor worthy of forming the basis of public policy."

But I just kind of assumed that co-founding an organization with James Dobson would stand on its own.
I mean, if this guy is so vehemently anti-gay, then there's gotta be a quote or two from him that would be more worthy of this story?
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You probably aren't familiar with FRC's work. It's not exactly a think tank.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']My favorite part is how he quotes one guy, then talks about a totally different individual. I mean, if this guy is so vehemently anti-gay, then there's gotta be a quote or two from him that would be more worthy of this story?[/QUOTE]

That entire email didn't count? The initial quote was just to set the stage. You know, like a regular debate. Many times you'll use a related quote to get people in the right mindset.
 
Can we really blame the guy? How many hymnals use the word "gay" in the jovial sense? Quite a few. I can overlook that and assume the guy was legitimately confused with some hot cock action reared itself.

Reared itself! Bwa hah hah!

I'm sure the leader was just wondering why the description kept talking about eight inches of lumbering, throbbing joy.
 
There was a part of me that thought this: persons in the elite tiers of our economy probably don't think much of "renting" another person for service (I mean that literally, not "service = handjob" service). So part of me thought that someone very well-to-do probably thought it very obvious and taken-for-granted that there would be a website where you can acquire part-time services of individuals to be your manservant (again, no innuendo). Therefore, it would be completely plausible to think that "rentboy.com" would be one of those sites.

Quick side note - back in the days when "PowerMacs" were fast computers and compact discs enhanced with miniature quicktime files were the hot thing, a website for old VA-based punk/joke-rock band The Meatmen was www.meatmen. com (space intentional so as to not create a url out of that). At one point in the following years, suffice it to say, it stopped being a site for that band and became a gay men's singles site. So I can appreciate a good dose of healthy naivete.

At any rate, I thought all of these plausibly deniable scenarios on Rekers' behalf...and then I went and checked out rentboy. Nothin' but daddies; there's no mistaking that site for one offering nonsexual services. It's about as plausibly deniable as the person who gets a hooker from craigslist and tries to argue they literally expected to pay "100 hugs and kisses" for the anal sex they were getting.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']Me thinks thou doth protest too much, Mr. Rekers.[/QUOTE]

For future reference, it's "Thou dost". "Doth" is the third person conjugation.:)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']

Quick side note - back in the days when "PowerMacs" were fast computers and compact discs enhanced with miniature quicktime files were the hot thing, a website for old VA-based punk/joke-rock band The Meatmen was www.meatmen. com (space intentional so as to not create a url out of that). At one point in the following years, suffice it to say, it stopped being a site for that band and became a gay men's singles site. So I can appreciate a good dose of healthy naivete.[/QUOTE]

I actually saw the meatmen in concert with gwar and brutal juice. My brother and I still laugh about "morrisey must die" and the "rectum wrecker". Wow, good times.
 
[quote name='speedracer']I just pulled the quote while reading up on FRC's history. The quoted is a current member of FRC and I thought it was pretty indicative of their organization. But if that's a necessary part I left out, then a little about Mr. Rekers.

Rekers was an expert witness in a 2004 case involving gay adoption in Arkansas, which had banned LGBT people from adopting in 1999. In December 2004, Pulaski County Circuit Court judge Timothy Fox ruled against the state of Arkansas. Furthermore, he called Rekers' testimony "extremely suspect." He also accused Rekers of testifying solely for promoting his "own personal agenda."

In 2008, Rekers was also an expert witness in In re: Gill, a case defending Florida's gay adoption ban. Miami-Dade Circuit Court Judge Cindy Lederman ruled against the state. In her decision, she said "Dr. Rekers’ testimony was far from a neutral and unbiased recitation of the relevant scientific evidence. Dr. Rekers’ beliefs are motivated by his strong ideological and theological convictions that are not consistent with the science. Based on his testimony and demeanor at trial, the court can not consider his testimony to be credible nor worthy of forming the basis of public policy."

But I just kind of assumed that co-founding an organization with James Dobson would stand on its own.

You probably aren't familiar with FRC's work. It's not exactly a think tank.[/QUOTE]


Thank you for providing some background on the actual individual the story was about. The OP was akin to posting a quote from Bill Ayers or Rev. Wright, then talking about something Obama has done.
 
[quote name='speedracer']You're the first person I've ever ignored Bob. You've earned it.[/QUOTE]

This makes me sad. Sorry I pointed out the stupidity of quoting one guy, then talking about the actions of a completely different individual.
 
Let me take advantage of this short diversion to advocate for something:

debate with Bob if you must, but don't quote him if possible. i have zero interest in whatever horseshit analogue he's proposing in this thread.
 
Wow. What an ironclad defense response. "Who is this guy." Glorious.

Must be great to nonchalantly remove yourself from every person on your team you've never heard of when you encompass millions of teammates, a large majority of whom appear to be fucking hypocrites trying to force their cocknasty bigotry down moist throats so that this metaphor satisfies them until they get home and jack off to HugeDoods.com.
 
A.) Not defending him. At all.
B.) He's not on my "team". No where near it.
C.) Surprisingly enough, I'm for the right for individuals to engage in sexual relations with consenting adults of their choosing. I'm for the right for individuals to sign legal contracts with other consenting individuals of their choosing, regardless of gender. And I'm for letting what ever kind of - safe - home environment adopt children who need good homes.
 
[quote name='looploop']For future reference, it's "Thou dost". "Doth" is the third person conjugation.:)[/QUOTE]
I won't tell Shakespeare if you won't.
 
Now that I think about it, the title of this thread reminds me of

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
 
How come extreme cases of homosexuality, and hypocrisy are proof of catholicism, or christianitys flaws, and falsehood, but islamic terrorists blowing themselves up in the name of Allah is just an isolated incident that doesnt reflect on their religion?
 
[quote name='Knoell']How come extreme cases of homosexuality, and hypocrisy are proof of catholicism, or christianitys flaws, and falsehood, but islamic terrorists blowing themselves up in the name of Allah is just an isolated incident that doesnt reflect on their religion?[/QUOTE]

cool starman brah. No srsly, where in this thread does anyone argue that 1 gay guy = proof of catholicism/christianity flaws? Sounds to me like you're just trying to have an excuse to bash muslims (cause we're doing it to christians
 
Actually i would say that Islam is flawed, in that in some extreme cases it can foster hostility towards others, though i can say that about Christianity too.
 
[quote name='IRHari']cool starman brah. No srsly, where in this thread does anyone argue that 1 gay guy = proof of catholicism/christianity flaws? Sounds to me like you're just trying to have an excuse to bash muslims (cause we're doing it to christians
 
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[quote name='Strell']Wow. What an ironclad defense response. "Who is this guy." Glorious.

Must be great to nonchalantly remove yourself from every person on your team you've never heard of when you encompass millions of teammates, a large majority of whom appear to be fucking hypocrites trying to force their cocknasty bigotry down moist throats so that this metaphor satisfies them until they get home and jack off to HugeDoods.com.[/QUOTE]

Here you go.
 
Rekers is saying all he did was try to help the young man find Christ. I guess the FRC isn't buying it. From their press release today:
"While we are extremely disappointed when any Christian leader engages in the very activities that they 'preach' against, it is not surprising. The Scriptures clearly teach the fallen nature of all people. We each have a choice to act upon that nature or accept the forgiveness offered by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and do our best to ensure our actions, both public and private, match our professed positions."
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Not exactly the kind of stirring defense you'd expect to find if they thought he didn't do it.

And Mr. Rentboy has spilled the sordid details to a newspaper.
 
"The Scriptures clearly teach the fallen nature of all people."

Then why do they go out of their way to demonize anyone that doesn't believe exactly like they do?
 
People use religion when it's convenient, and disavow it when it's not. Someone claims the bible condemns homosexuality, when someone tries to claim otherwise, suddenly that part of the bible they're quoting isn't canon or something.
 
Well as we all know, modern day people are a lot smarter than Jesus, because we have iPods and Cup O' Noodles. That's how we know what he was REALLY thinking back then.

Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar? Please. Jesus know all bout dat hot bling, yo, and would have straight up fly jiggy to the max and beyond. Mens gotta 'spect them bitches, and not other dawgs, nawsayin? Talkin' bout that gay shit. Repraznt that purple drank them libreezy pussies downin, ya hrrrd.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']Actually i would say that Islam is flawed, in that in some extreme cases it can foster hostility towards others, though i can say that about Christianity too.[/QUOTE]

That's a pretty broad standard anyway. Anything can and will foster hostility in people when it becomes part of a zero-sum competition in the minds of the faithful.
Islam, Christianity; liberalism, conservatism; Nintendo, Sega; English, Spanish. it goes on and on.:bomb:
 
From what I gather (and Strell you fucker, explain yourself here I hate having to justify/explain other peoples words) Strell is saying that the ones who do end up hiring gigolos and shit are the same ones who bash gays on a consistent basis.
 
[quote name='Strell']Wow. What an ironclad defense response. "Who is this guy." Glorious.

Must be great to nonchalantly remove yourself from every person on your team you've never heard of when you encompass millions of teammates, a large majority of whom appear to be fucking hypocrites trying to force their cocknasty bigotry down moist throats so that this metaphor satisfies them until they get home and jack off to HugeDoods.com.[/QUOTE]

Read again.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']People use religion when it's convenient, and disavow it when it's not. Someone claims the bible condemns homosexuality, when someone tries to claim otherwise, suddenly that part of the bible they're quoting isn't canon or something.[/QUOTE]

The contradictory nature of religious texts is a part of why they've lasted so long in the first place. If any of them were really completely definitive and didn't offer a contrary reading they would inevitably be proven incorrect on something and be found unreliable.

As it is, the ability to debate the text ad infinitum gives it life and relevance ad infinitum.

edit: You could replace "religious texts" with "politicians/parties" and this observation would remain salient I think. X)
 
[quote name='IRHari'] Strell you fucker, explain yourself here I hate having to justify/explain other peoples words[/QUOTE]

I rather enjoy it when it's my words in question. It's like a sieve to sift my thick puddings down, thinning them in the process so that children can enjoy them, who would ofterwise cough and choke and sputter upon my unrefined goodness.

Someone has a problem with what I said? I see a lot of "Dumbass post shall not soil your manly eyes O Glorious One" on my screen due to a Greasemonkey script I'm running.

Note: I am not running a Greasemonkey script.
 
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