Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena XBOX 360 $39.99 at NewEgg

[quote name='Hoffer']Butcher Bay was a game I somehow missed on Xbox. I heard the hype for it with people asking it to be back compat on the 360. I was excited to finally play it when they said it was coming to 360. Unfortunately, I did not like the demo on the marketplace. I've heard people say the demo was not good, but the game is. Plus, I keep reading people say how good it is.

So, after 2 days of seeing this thread, I just pulled the trigger. If I still don't like it, I'm blaming the internet. :)
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Well the demo is NOT butcher bay, it's the add on original dark athena. Butcher bay, the original xbox 1 game redone on the 360, is worth the price of admission alone, the fact you get a decent 8 hour campaign on top of the original and MP is just extra
 
[quote name='trent82']wow...i expected quick price drops on this one, but $20 off after a week is crazy.

if you are on the fence, butcher bay is great. dark athena is pretty good, but it's no butcher bay. and the multiplayer has a lot of problems, but can still be simple fun when you can find a match.

i expect this game to be $20 by the end of summer, but the multiplayer will probably be dead by then.[/quote]

Dang it, that's it. I am never paying full price on a game again. THe price drops are just way too fast. Paid $62 bucks for it at Toys R Us last weekend. Ugh.
 
The "new" part of the game is not good at all. It's just a really crappy shooter without any of the sophistication or stealth required when playing the Xbox portion. The old part is literally a straight port of the Xbox version with very little in the way of enhancements. I suspect this will be a $20 game before long, especially since it got very poor reviews. I did notice that the Toys R Us version comes with bonus maps for whatever that's worth.
 
[quote name='bojay1997']The "new" part of the game is not good at all. It's just a really crappy shooter without any of the sophistication or stealth required when playing the Xbox portion. The old part is literally a straight port of the Xbox version with very little in the way of enhancements. I suspect this will be a $20 game before long, especially since it got very poor reviews. I did notice that the Toys R Us version comes with bonus maps for whatever that's worth.[/quote]

I think it will continue to go down in price since the sales figures look bleak but "very poor reviews" is a huge stretch for a game that currently has an 82 composite ranking on both GameRankings and Metacritic.
 
Meh just beat Butcher Bay after never playing the original; it's not that good and it really shows it's age. Hard game too and the amount of loading in this game is ridiculous. I'm talking 15 second load times.
 
[quote name='Moravagine']I think it will continue to go down in price since the sales figures look bleak but "very poor reviews" is a huge stretch for a game that currently has an 82 composite ranking on both GameRankings and Metacritic.[/QUOTE]

I believe it got a two star rating on X-Play the other night and got scores in the 70s from most of the respectable publications. Every review pretty much said only the older portion is worth playing and only if you don't already have the Xbox version. Given how much rating inflation there is nowadays given advertiser pressures, I consider those scores to be very poor, especially when the original Xbox game got an 89 composite ranking in a much more difficult review environment.
 
Up to $45 on NewEgg now.

[quote name='Pck21']I played the demo last night and I thought it was just ok. I'm not a huge fan of Vin Diesel either, so that could be one of the problems I'm having with it. I guess I just want to know, from people who have played/own the retail game, that it's $40 worth of good "gaming substance." In other words, is there enough in the game, time wise and product wise, to keep me coming back for more?[/quote]


Without playing through the whole game yourself there's really just not a way to know whether it's worth $40. Some people have said that EFBB is the only good part of the package whereas others have said that both games are excellent. Hours-wise, it's a lot longer than most single player action games because both are included and its replay value depends on how much you enjoy playing through the game, which you won't know until you buy it. :p It's a circular pattern. Sometimes all you can do is take a chance or hold out until it drops even further down the road.
 
[quote name='txdave34']Dang it, that's it. I am never paying full price on a game again. THe price drops are just way too fast. Paid $62 bucks for it at Toys R Us last weekend. Ugh.[/QUOTE]

Buy new copy and return new copy with TRU and get your money worth :)
 
[quote name='bojay1997']I believe it got a two star rating on X-Play the other night and got scores in the 70s from most of the respectable publications. Every review pretty much said only the older portion is worth playing and only if you don't already have the Xbox version. Given how much rating inflation there is nowadays given advertiser pressures, I consider those scores to be very poor, especially when the original Xbox game got an 89 composite ranking in a much more difficult review environment.[/quote]

Well first of all, X-Play gave it three stars, not two. Plus, all the major gaming publications gave it scores in the high 70's, and Game Informer even gave it a 9.5. So your poor reviews theory isn't really holding much water.
 
[quote name='robin2099']Well first of all, X-Play gave it three stars, not two. Plus, all the major gaming publications gave it scores in the high 70's, and Game Informer even gave it a 9.5. So your poor reviews theory isn't really holding much water.[/QUOTE]

You're correct, X-Play gave it 3 out of 5 or a 60. 1Up gave it a 67. Gamespot gave it a 70. IGN gave it a 74. Not exactly great scores. Game Informer is not a legit review magazine and hasn't been for a long time. I read the Edge review which is one of the few magazines I still trust and it gave it an 80, but was very clear that the older game is the only thing worth getting it for and that the newer game is not very good. So, like I said earlier, if you don't have the original Xbox game, it might be worth picking up, but certainly not at full price and probably not even at $40. I guarantee this will hit $20 within a few months, so as CAGs, I would suggest everyone just waits.
 
[quote name='bojay1997']You're correct, X-Play gave it 3 out of 5 or a 60. 1Up gave it a 67. Gamespot gave it a 70. IGN gave it a 74. Not exactly great scores. Game Informer is not a legit review magazine and hasn't been for a long time. I read the Edge review which is one of the few magazines I still trust and it gave it an 80, but was very clear that the older game is the only thing worth getting it for and that the newer game is not very good. So, like I said earlier, if you don't have the original Xbox game, it might be worth picking up, but certainly not at full price and probably not even at $40. I guarantee this will hit $20 within a few months, so as CAGs, I would suggest everyone just waits.[/quote]

This is one of the issues with people today, a 3 out of 5 is not a 60, yes mathematically it converts to 60/100, but if xplay had given it a score out of 100 I guarantee it would not have been a 60. As well as metacritcs conversion for 1ups letter rating still boggles my mind. Last time I checked a B- was not a 67%.
 
[quote name='Bucknut']This is one of the issues with people today, a 3 out of 5 is not a 60, yes mathematically it converts to 60/100, but if xplay had given it a score out of 100 I guarantee it would not have been a 60. As well as metacritcs conversion for 1ups letter rating still boggles my mind. Last time I checked a B- was not a 67%.[/QUOTE]

That's why I never get hung up on the numerical score, but actually read or watch the review. Based on the five or six reviews I have read and the X-Play review which I watched, this is not a game anyone should be paying full price for. I'm actually surprised that it numerically scored as high as it did in many magazines and it just shows how much I rely on what I actually read in the review as opposed to paying attention to the score. I read the Edge review but didn't really look at the score and if you had asked me before I checked metacritic, I would have guessed it was somewhere in the 60s based on the actual text of the review which really wasn't that positive. When reviews are consistently saying that the original game is great (a game which is almost five years old at this point and which can be purchased for $10 or less used), but the actual new game is not very good, how does that translate into 70s, 80s and 90s? To me, the grade should be based on the new content since the old stuff is treated as a bonus more than anything else. This is a game to be picked up on clearance and given the poor sales thus far, it won't be long until all of us can do just that.
 
[quote name='bojay1997'] (a game which is almost five years old at this point and which can be purchased for $10 or less used), but the actual new game is not very good, how does that translate into 70s, 80s and 90s? [/quote]

I respect your opinion, but

1) While the game can be purchased for $10 used, how many people still have their original Xbox? The game was never made backwards compatible for the 360 so unless you expect people to purchase both the game and a $50 system, I think it's kind of a moot point

2) The game translates into 80s from what I've read (I've read about 5 reviews all the way through) because while some people think Dark Athena doesn't live up to EFBB, only a handful of the reviews I've read outright dislike it. In fact, off the top of my head I can remember Wired, GameInformer, and Gaming-Age raving about both titles in the package. It seems more the case that most reviewers just think it doesn't live up to its prequel, but still has its own merits - for example, the Pitch Black multiplayer mode has been venerated in every review I've read as has the visuals, the voice acting, and the amount of content you're getting. Even 1Up who, from the wording alone could be argued to have disliked it, still gave it a favorable rating presumably because EFBB was enough to make it worth buying.

I've never played EFBB, but I enjoyed the Dark Athena demo. If *that's* the lesser of the two parts of the game, I have no reservations paying $40 for both games. Of course, I know not everyone feels the same, but i just thought i'd share my 2 cents.
 
[quote name='tenma']While the game can be purchased for $10 used, how many people still have their original Xbox? The game was never made backwards compatible for the 360 so unless you expect people to purchase both the game and a $50 system, I think it's kind of a moot point[/quote]

I was thinking the exact same thing. When I bought my first Xbox 360 I packed up my original Xbox. I still own the original Butcher Bay but, like tenma said, what are you going to play it on since it's not BC? I've played through the 360 version of Butcher Bay twice now and it's bloody fantastic!
 
I actually still have EFBB and my original XBOX but never finished the game for whatever reason. I was hesitant to spend $60 but when I saw it for $40 I thought what the hell. I'll finish up the "remade" BB, play DA and hopefully get a little life out of the multi.
 
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