Claymore, Trinity Blood, and Basilisk on Blu for $39 at Amazon

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Don't know about Trinity Blood but Basilisk is the one worth getting. I wasn't impressed by the animation quality and monster design in Claymore.
 
Basilisk Blu-ray was even a couple $ cheaper in recent days, but that doesn't moot the great deal here. I had canceled picking up the bargain bin DVD box set at Rightstuf and aimed at this instead.

Amazon seems as a matter of course to offer better pricing on Blu anime than Rightstuf and others.

Update: I notice Rightstuf has Basilisk BR now for $39.99, so they are competitive
 
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Basilisk on Blu-ray is an upscale. Trinity Blood is almost a guaranteed upscale as well. Still no word on Claymore, but I wouldn't be surprised. If you can snag the DVDs of any of these for cheaper, do so - the HD "upgrade" isn't worth it.
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']Basilisk on Blu-ray is an upscale. Trinity Blood is almost a guaranteed upscale as well. Still no word on Claymore, but I wouldn't be surprised. If you can snag the DVDs of any of these for cheaper, do so - the HD "upgrade" isn't worth it.[/QUOTE]

That's the cheapest I've found Claymore at, and even if it's just upscaled, Blu-Rays will last longer and be more scratch resistant than DVDs.
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']Basilisk on Blu-ray is an upscale. Trinity Blood is almost a guaranteed upscale as well. Still no word on Claymore, but I wouldn't be surprised. If you can snag the DVDs of any of these for cheaper, do so - the HD "upgrade" isn't worth it.[/QUOTE]
Who cares if it's just an upscale it's still going to look better than the DVD version. I have both the dvd and blu ray version of Samurai 7 and the blu ray version looks better than the dvd using an upscaler.
 
[quote name='Vincent_Core']Who cares if it's just an upscale it's still going to look better than the DVD version. I have both the dvd and blu ray version of Samurai 7 and the blu ray version looks better than the dvd using an upscaler.[/QUOTE]

That's because Samurai 7 wasn't an upscale.
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']That's because Samurai 7 wasn't an upscale.[/QUOTE]

BURN!! lol

and OP next time links would be cool.
 
I'm gettin down on the pre-orders. Only because I loved Claymore when I watched it, and never got to see Trinity Blood back to back

http://www.amazon.com/Trinity-Blood...ef=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1261117285&sr=8-5

Trinity Blood Link

Claymore:::
http://www.amazon.com/Claymore-Comp...ef=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1261117357&sr=1-2

Basilisk::
http://www.amazon.com/Basilisk-Comp...ef=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1261117422&sr=1-3

Saw another Anime Blu for cheap::
Tsusbasa::
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=3201&pf_rd_p=493495471&pf_rd_i=typ01
 
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I say if you don't own it on DVD or it's give a take 5-10$ around the same price. Then buy blu.

I love this line

"As I've pointed out in the past, FUNimation DVDs tend to look like creamed chipped asshole on toast: edge enhancement, mosquito noise and macroblocking were pretty much expected on all of their releases, "

and another:
"so if I see that upscaled I think that FUNi has lost more credibility than a male congressman with a photo of balls in his mouth."
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']Well, you can *think* that, but it doesn't mean you're right. This might be a good read for you, or anyone else considering buying these faux-HD discs:

http://kentaifilms.blogspot.com/2009/03/pandoras-ntsc-box-is-opened-further.html[/QUOTE]

That link sounds like it written by a disgruntled PS3 owner and many of the assumptions made in it are inaccurate.


Blu-ray Discs upscaled from 480i can still - and usually do - look much better than the original DVD.

But, there are a couple of requirements.

A) You need a Blu-ray player other than the PS3 or Panasonic BD30-based player. While a lot of people talk about how great the PS3 is a Blu-ray player, the fact is it can't deinterlace 1080i which is pretty sad considering the huge amount of 1080i material on BD (not just upscaled anime, but also FullHD live events like UFC and concerts). And, while the Panasonic BD30 got a good rep when it came out, it can deinterlace 1080i but does a really crummy job of it. Some players that are good at deinterlacing 1080i include the Pioneer BDP-320 (~$250) and Oppo BDP-83 (~$500). Get one of these instead of the PS3. While the PS3 was a good player when it first came out, ever since release of the Pioneer 51FD there have been much better players in terms of A/V quality available than the PS3 - especially if you watch a lot of 1080i-encoded Blu-ray or DVD in general.

B) The studio has to do the upscale properly. Upscaling from 480i to 1080i is actually not that hard. Bandai Visual/Honneamise has done a fantastic job of it in all cases I've seen, I haven't examined the work of other studios, but I have not seen any botched jobs. So my guess is this one is met in most cases.


Now, why does an upscaled BD look better than the DVD if A) and B) are met?

Three reasons:

A) Low pass filter applied robbing the 480i master of high frequency detail while prepping for encoding in order to make compression for DVD easier. Generally DVDs do not have enough space and/or peak bitrate to handle an unfiltered 480i master in an automated encode w/o artifacting, thus the detail is filtered out to make automated encoding easier since high freq detail is most difficult to encode - hand tweaked encodes are much more expensive to make.

B) The compression itself introducing artifacts. DVD is generally a bit-starved format, meaning you often see macroblocking and other artifacts.

C) Improper progressive flagging of 480i master for DVD encode, which happens all too often.

While a great DVD upscaler like the Oppo/Pioneer BD players can fix C), they can't do much about A & B because the detail is already lost and/or distorted.

Bottom line, so long as you don't own a PS3 or Panasonic BD30-based player, Blu-ray Discs upscaled from 480i masters will look much better than the DVD 99% of the time.
 
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How about everyone says screw upscaling and remaster it the right way so it gives everyone a reason to throw away the dvds and get the blu, and theres no need to argue about the interlacing, and upscaling quality of dvd vs blu.
 
[quote name='Mako1215']How about everyone says screw upscaling and remaster it the right way so it gives everyone a reason to throw away the dvds and get the blu, and theres no need to argue about the interlacing, and upscaling quality of dvd vs blu.[/QUOTE]

Some anime were rendered at standard definition, hence there is no way to make a true HD master. i.e. for some of them there is no HD assets to make an HD master from.

But, with the right equipment you can still get some significant benefits from a properly encoded upscaled BD. Whether its worth spending a lot of money for an upscale if you have the DVD already is another story.
 
I did some research and it looks like Funimation has been overprocessing their upscales, using DNR in addition to the upscale instead of just a straight upscale. This is not the proper way to do an upscale, which other studios like Bandai Visual/Honneamise excel at. It also appears Funimation have encoded some titles which should have been encoded at 1080i60 at 1080p24 instead, resulting in dropped frames during the title sequences. They did this so they could market the titles as 1080p (Blu-ray spec does not support 1080p30). Some poor decisions there for sure.

However out of all the Blu-ray upscales Funimation released, they still all look significantly superior to the R1 DVD counterparts with the exception of Samurai Champloo, in which case the OOP Geneon DVD set is of better A/V quality. All of the rest of the R1 DVDs are Funimation and have a ton of compression artifacts.

Its too bad Funimation doesn't have the same level of quality as Bandai Visual/Honneamise. While their Blu-ray upscales do look better than their DVDs (with the exception of SC, since there is a Geneon encode of that avail in R1), they could have looked even better than the final product. Oh well.
 
[quote name='JohnHarker']Wouldn't a PS3 be fine for these upscaled blu-rays since all the Funimation ones are in 1080P anyways?[/QUOTE]

The funimation ones are all messed up anyway, so it doesn't really matter what player you use. Some of them should have been encoded 1080i60 like the corresponding Japanese releases to preserve the framerate of the whole show, but as you said they were unfortunately encoded 1080p24 resulting in frame dropping/stuttering at certain parts.

Where the PS3 fails is some of the properly upscaled 1080i60 titles done by Bandai Visual/Honneamise and some other studios.
 
[quote name='Ruined']
Where the PS3 fails is some of the properly upscaled 1080i60 titles done by Bandai Visual/Honneamise and some other studios.[/QUOTE]


Just curious, but do you know if this is a hardware or software issue?
 
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