Clearing it up once and for all? (Re: backups)

So basically backing discs up is legal, but using them is totally illegal. So basically if you want to waste some money on cd-rs and waste your time making backups you are within the legal realm, maybe you could use them as coasters or to show your friends that you know how to backup games. My question is why even bother making it legal to create backup copies if youre going to allow companies to make those backups unusable? It seems like it's one of those let's try and make ourselves look good by allowing people to make backups, and then behind their backs make sure no one is able to use backups.
 
[quote name='zzl365']So basically backing discs up is legal, but using them is totally illegal. So basically if you want to waste some money on cd-rs and waste your time making backups you are within the legal realm, maybe you could use them as coasters or to show your friends that you know how to backup games. My question is why even bother making it legal to create backup copies if youre going to allow companies to make those backups unusable? It seems like it's one of those let's try and make ourselves look good by allowing people to make backups, and then behind their backs make sure no one is able to use backups.[/quote]

Fair Use was on the books long before the DMCA was enacted, and back in the days of floppies and tape drives, everyone had and uses archival copies. Many of the industry types argued when that CD-ROM was accepted that due to it's more robust format that the need for archival copies was dramatically lessened. While I don't agree with that, those are the people that helped shape the laws into what they are.
 
[quote name='PsyClerk']FFVII had a point. Kill that Aeris chick.

Anyone make a backup of FFVII?[/quote]

No, I thought it was laugh at what a girly momma's boy this "supposedly evil" "tough" badguy was. I can't help but laugh at the people who think Sephiroth (however you spell his name) is cool.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='PsyClerk']FFVII had a point. Kill that Aeris chick.

Anyone make a backup of FFVII?[/quote]

No, I thought it was laugh at what a girly momma's boy this "supposedly evil" "tough" badguy was. I can't help but laugh at the people who think Sephiroth (however you spell his name) is cool.[/quote]

Especially when a much much MUCH better version of Sephiroth is available in the form of Alucard from SOTN.
 
Not that good...Hugh Jackman just threatened to personally kick my ass if I did it, and you don't mess with Wolverine.
 
If Wolverine scratches my original PS1 discs with his claws, am I entitled to play backups of said discs?
 
[quote name='defender']sorry but its illegal according to the dmca

you will have to circumvent the hardware protection built into the PSone and this is against the law

previous to the dmca it was a grey area but the dmca makes it clear...reverse engineering is now illegal and any device designed to circumvent copyright protection is against the law...

there is more to it than this but its the short of it[/quote]

So basically after this giant long thread on long-winded legal discussions you could have all just agree with me.
 
[quote name='defender'][quote name='defender']sorry but its illegal according to the dmca

you will have to circumvent the hardware protection built into the PSone and this is against the law

previous to the dmca it was a grey area but the dmca makes it clear...reverse engineering is now illegal and any device designed to circumvent copyright protection is against the law...

there is more to it than this but its the short of it[/quote]

So basically after this giant long thread on long-winded legal discussions you could have all just agree with me.[/quote]

Well, yeah, but I never disagreed with you in the first place :)
 
Personally, I found this thread to be a pretty interesting discussion. Though I must admit that I hardly even skimmed all the legal mumbo-jumo JSweeney posted early on.
 
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