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Heavy crossbow for me.
Concealed Guns on College Campuses - Bad idea, or Terribad idea?
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numbier_wun
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I would carry a .44 Magnum and an M40 rifle, for that perfect balance. But seriously, as for the CCW issue, I'm on the fence.
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[quote name='georox']That involves reloading, and accuracy... grenades involve neither.[/QUOTE]
Grenades just piss off armored people.
A bolt to the eye can bypass almost any eye protection. A bolt also can be modified. Make the shaft out of hollow plastique and fill it with phosphorus/thermite. Hit the target dead center, the plastique spreads the phosphorus and thermite. Air ignites the phosphorus and the phosphorus ignites the thermite. Any less sturdy than titanium melts from thermite. Any skin touching the thermite-heated titanium will be cooked.
Think of it as a poor man's plasma rifle.
Grenades just piss off armored people.
A bolt to the eye can bypass almost any eye protection. A bolt also can be modified. Make the shaft out of hollow plastique and fill it with phosphorus/thermite. Hit the target dead center, the plastique spreads the phosphorus and thermite. Air ignites the phosphorus and the phosphorus ignites the thermite. Any less sturdy than titanium melts from thermite. Any skin touching the thermite-heated titanium will be cooked.
Think of it as a poor man's plasma rifle.
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Saber? Hah, claymore > saber.
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I couldn't help but think you were bad-ass if you had a claymore belt buckle.
But if your shirt drapes over it, is that a concealed weapon?
But if your shirt drapes over it, is that a concealed weapon?
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[quote name='georox']I'll one-up you... a claymore CODPIECE![/QUOTE]
I saw that episode of Metalpocalypse.
I saw that episode of Metalpocalypse.
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The codpiece Murderface was wearing was just a pointy codpiece. It didn't actually become a weapon until the dude fell on it.
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Bringing guns into college will increase the casualties when a gang war starts, This is not a good idea and for sure there will be big protests if this will going to be happen.
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[quote name='MMORGHunter']Bringing guns into college will increase the casualties when a gang war starts, This is not a good idea and for sure there will be big protests if this will going to be happen.[/QUOTE]
A gang war?
When was the last time you saw a gang war in a college?
A gang war?
:lol:
When was the last time you saw a gang war in a college?
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[quote name='fullmetalfan720']A gang war? :lol:
When was the last time you saw a gang war in a college?[/QUOTE]
I think I started one in the third act of San Andreas. Was there a college in San Andreas?
When was the last time you saw a gang war in a college?[/QUOTE]
I think I started one in the third act of San Andreas. Was there a college in San Andreas?
[quote name='georox']http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2009/9/10/michigan-legislators-proposal-would-allow-conceale/
I'll sum up what I know - Some bastards think allowing people to carry concealed weapons around colleges is a good idea...
I've seen people throw huge fits when something goes wrong and start throwing/smashing/threatening people, the last thing I want is them to have a pistol strapped to their leg.[/QUOTE]
That's great, here's a link where some bastard thinks it's a bad idea: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=6276355
I for one think it's long, long overdue to allow legal citizens the right to carry their concealed handgun on campus.
When you see a store that posts a sign saying no firearms, I don't think to myself, say, I'm walking in to a friendly, safe environment. I just think, well, I guess any good guys with guns will keep them outside. That just leaves the bad guys.
How is your comment about some idiot in a rage with a gun on campus any different than thinking about some idiot in a restaurant, bar, bookstore, or the mall? Idiots do stupid things. Rational people don't wave a firearm to intimidate folks. They understand the responsibility and privelege it is to be able to carried concealed.
Your post fails miserably.
I'll sum up what I know - Some bastards think allowing people to carry concealed weapons around colleges is a good idea...
I've seen people throw huge fits when something goes wrong and start throwing/smashing/threatening people, the last thing I want is them to have a pistol strapped to their leg.[/QUOTE]
That's great, here's a link where some bastard thinks it's a bad idea: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=6276355
I for one think it's long, long overdue to allow legal citizens the right to carry their concealed handgun on campus.
When you see a store that posts a sign saying no firearms, I don't think to myself, say, I'm walking in to a friendly, safe environment. I just think, well, I guess any good guys with guns will keep them outside. That just leaves the bad guys.
How is your comment about some idiot in a rage with a gun on campus any different than thinking about some idiot in a restaurant, bar, bookstore, or the mall? Idiots do stupid things. Rational people don't wave a firearm to intimidate folks. They understand the responsibility and privelege it is to be able to carried concealed.
Your post fails miserably.
[quote name='berzirk']That's great, here's a link where some bastard thinks it's a bad idea: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=6276355
I for one think it's long, long overdue to allow legal citizens the right to carry their concealed handgun on campus.
When you see a store that posts a sign saying no firearms, I don't think to myself, say, I'm walking in to a friendly, safe environment. I just think, well, I guess any good guys with guns will keep them outside. That just leaves the bad guys.
How is your comment about some idiot in a rage with a gun on campus any different than thinking about some idiot in a restaurant, bar, bookstore, or the mall? Idiots do stupid things. Rational people don't wave a firearm to intimidate folks. They understand the responsibility and privelege it is to be able to carried concealed.
Your post fails miserably.[/QUOTE]
Since when the
have people been rational? The last thing I'm going to presume is that people are rational. If a "bad guy" has a gun and starts shooting people, untrained wits with pistols won't do shit to save people, the last thing you want are five random people shooting back at them, hitting who knows what and who knows WHO in the crossfire. Getting the right to carry a concealed weapon doesn't mean you think about when you shoot. It just means you passed a little 8 hour or so course, depending on the state. Police officers are trained to think when they shoot, to think of what could happen if they miss, if the bullet will go through the person, etc. The average person won't think of shit like that. A gun doesn't protect people, a gun kills people, anybody who says otherwise is full of shit, like most NRA members.
Oh, and the LASTING THING I WOULD WANT is people to be allowed to have guns in a bar. Yes, just want I want, drunken pricks with guns. Brilliant ing idea.
I for one think it's long, long overdue to allow legal citizens the right to carry their concealed handgun on campus.
When you see a store that posts a sign saying no firearms, I don't think to myself, say, I'm walking in to a friendly, safe environment. I just think, well, I guess any good guys with guns will keep them outside. That just leaves the bad guys.
How is your comment about some idiot in a rage with a gun on campus any different than thinking about some idiot in a restaurant, bar, bookstore, or the mall? Idiots do stupid things. Rational people don't wave a firearm to intimidate folks. They understand the responsibility and privelege it is to be able to carried concealed.
Your post fails miserably.[/QUOTE]
Since when the
have people been rational? The last thing I'm going to presume is that people are rational. If a "bad guy" has a gun and starts shooting people, untrained wits with pistols won't do shit to save people, the last thing you want are five random people shooting back at them, hitting who knows what and who knows WHO in the crossfire. Getting the right to carry a concealed weapon doesn't mean you think about when you shoot. It just means you passed a little 8 hour or so course, depending on the state. Police officers are trained to think when they shoot, to think of what could happen if they miss, if the bullet will go through the person, etc. The average person won't think of shit like that. A gun doesn't protect people, a gun kills people, anybody who says otherwise is full of shit, like most NRA members.Oh, and the LAST
ING THING I WOULD WANT is people to be allowed to have guns in a bar. Yes, just want I want, drunken pricks with guns. Brilliant ing idea.[quote name='georox']Since when the have people been rational? The last thing I'm going to presume is that people are rational. If a "bad guy" has a gun and starts shooting people, untrained wits with pistols won't do shit to save people, the last thing you want are five random people shooting back at them, hitting who knows what and who knows WHO in the crossfire. Getting the right to carry a concealed weapon doesn't mean you think about when you shoot. It just means you passed a little 8 hour or so course, depending on the state. Police officers are trained to think when they shoot, to think of what could happen if they miss, if the bullet will go through the person, etc. The average person won't think of shit like that. A gun doesn't protect people, a gun kills people, anybody who says otherwise is full of shit, like most NRA members.
Oh, and the LASTING THING I WOULD WANT is people to be allowed to have guns in a bar. Yes, just want I want, drunken pricks with guns. Brilliant ing idea.[/QUOTE]
I love how it's trendy to do this counter-culture thing where we say, everyone's an idiot, everyone's irrational, everyone's...blah, blah blah.
I'd trust three 21 year olds (by the way, most states, maybe all, don't even let you get a CHL until you're 21, which for most people is a Jr/Sr in college) with their CHL and 8 hour course ahead of some maniac with 5 guns shooting at anything that moves. You can discredit it all you want, but whatever remedial class is required to get your CHL is still better than some guy who didn't have it. Then you say the average person won't think of overpenetration, the effects of missing your target, etc. I agree. That's why they talk about things like that in the classes. I would hope anyone that's been granted the privelege of having a CHL has thought about these things extensively. They likely will have more than someone that's carrying illegally and never took a class.
Also, carrying in bars is 100% legal in many states, mine for one. To me, I'd rather see alcohol banned before concealed carry is. Afterall, everyone is a crazy drunkard :| and I've never seen a family of three die in a head on crash because a guy had a Glock on his hip.
If you want to make campuses safer, remove alcohol from the equation. Rapes will go down, murders will go down, accidental deaths, alcohol poisoning, drownings.
If some criminal wants to hurt me or my two kids out in public or in my home, you better believe I'll be drawing on him if there's no other way to remove myself from danger.
have people been rational? The last thing I'm going to presume is that people are rational. If a "bad guy" has a gun and starts shooting people, untrained wits with pistols won't do shit to save people, the last thing you want are five random people shooting back at them, hitting who knows what and who knows WHO in the crossfire. Getting the right to carry a concealed weapon doesn't mean you think about when you shoot. It just means you passed a little 8 hour or so course, depending on the state. Police officers are trained to think when they shoot, to think of what could happen if they miss, if the bullet will go through the person, etc. The average person won't think of shit like that. A gun doesn't protect people, a gun kills people, anybody who says otherwise is full of shit, like most NRA members.Oh, and the LAST
ING THING I WOULD WANT is people to be allowed to have guns in a bar. Yes, just want I want, drunken pricks with guns. Brilliant ing idea.[/QUOTE]I love how it's trendy to do this counter-culture thing where we say, everyone's an idiot, everyone's irrational, everyone's...blah, blah blah.
I'd trust three 21 year olds (by the way, most states, maybe all, don't even let you get a CHL until you're 21, which for most people is a Jr/Sr in college) with their CHL and 8 hour course ahead of some maniac with 5 guns shooting at anything that moves. You can discredit it all you want, but whatever remedial class is required to get your CHL is still better than some guy who didn't have it. Then you say the average person won't think of overpenetration, the effects of missing your target, etc. I agree. That's why they talk about things like that in the classes. I would hope anyone that's been granted the privelege of having a CHL has thought about these things extensively. They likely will have more than someone that's carrying illegally and never took a class.
Also, carrying in bars is 100% legal in many states, mine for one. To me, I'd rather see alcohol banned before concealed carry is. Afterall, everyone is a crazy drunkard :| and I've never seen a family of three die in a head on crash because a guy had a Glock on his hip.
If you want to make campuses safer, remove alcohol from the equation. Rapes will go down, murders will go down, accidental deaths, alcohol poisoning, drownings.
If some criminal wants to hurt me or my two kids out in public or in my home, you better believe I'll be drawing on him if there's no other way to remove myself from danger.
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