Convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists or gays in Christian video game

[quote name='RedvsBlue']Premarital sex is pretty fucking fun. Stabbing hobos in the eye can be pretty fun too but you're right there, the drycleaning bill for getting out the blood can get pretty high.[/quote]
but its like cheating on your wife before your married its comiting adultery in your heart.
 
[quote name='solid snake']but its like cheating on your wife before your married its comiting adultery in your heart.[/QUOTE]

You're right, I should include her when I go hobo-eye stabbing. Thank you for your guidance.
 
[quote name='solid snake']i dont see how.
unless the dudes vision in this game comes true then that would be messed up.[/quote]

Lets see, theres the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials...
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Premarital sex is pretty fucking fun. Stabbing hobos in the eye can be pretty fun too but you're right there, the drycleaning bill for getting out the blood can get pretty high.[/quote]
Ahhh so you ARE in murders and executions.

And the Crusades were a wonderful Christian event. Let's take back the holy land and slaughter as many Muslims as we can find! Let's not forget the "conversion" of the savages in the new world.
 
[quote name='javeryh']yeah, kind of :D

I am just facinated that there are people who think that when you die someone judges your actions and determines whether you spend eternity on fire or not. It's just insane.[/quote]

you dont have to understand it to believe it,and it may not actually mean fire,but if you believe and acceapt jesus you will have eternal life like you never really die but hell is the 2nd death.
 
[quote name='Cheese']Christianity 2.1 billion (Began: ca. 27 AD/CE)
Roman Catholicism: 1.085 billion
Protestantism: 590 million
Eastern Orthodoxy: 200 million
Anglican: 84 million
Oriental Orthodoxy, Assyrians, and other Christians: 350 million
Latter Day Saints (Mormons) 12.6 million (Began: ca. 1830)

Seeing that half of all Christians are Catholics, Catholics are the 'normal' christians, it's the rest of them that are the odd ones out.

All Christian religions pick and choose what to believe and what to ignore from the Bible, Catholicism is no more kooky then any other group.[/QUOTE]
Catholocism is the original Christianity... There was only the Catholic church until Martin Luther.

Catholics believe in things like Saints, praying for the dead, Purgatory, and other things that might seem odd to other denominations. The other main difference is the bureaucracy.

I don't have a problem with any denomination, as long as they don't believe in a strict, 100% literal interpretation of the Bible. That is a very dangerous, extremist, and completely incorrect view. Much of the Bible was never meant to be taken literally. The beast in Revelation is clearly the Roman Empire. And we know that the earth is more than a few thousand years old, and took more than a week to create. Catholics are quick to point out that Genesis isn't meant to be taken literally. At least in this era, they're not going to try and make science fit their religion, but they'll adjust their views based on what science teaches us. A somewhat recent change, but a wise position to take, something the Buddhists have done for many years.

The propositon that any book is 100% literal truth, and anything that says otherwise is 100% wrong, is an extremely dangerous mindset. Whether that book is the Bible, the Koran, or your VCR instruction manual, doesn't matter.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Catholocism is the original Christianity... There was only the Catholic church until Martin Luther.

Catholics believe in things like Saints, praying for the dead, Purgatory, and other things that might seem odd to other denominations. The other main difference is the bureaucracy.

I don't have a problem with any denomination, as long as they don't believe in a strict, 100% literal interpretation of the Bible. That is a very dangerous, extremist, and completely incorrect view. Much of the Bible was never meant to be taken literally. The beast in Revelation is clearly the Roman Empire. And we know that the earth is more than a few thousand years old, and took more than a week to create. Catholics are quick to point out that Genesis isn't meant to be taken literally. At least in this era, they're not going to try and make science fit their religion, but they'll adjust their views based on what science teaches us. A somewhat recent change, but a wise position to take, something the Buddhists have done for many years.

The propositon that any book is 100% literal truth, and anything that says otherwise is 100% wrong, is an extremely dangerous mindset. Whether that book is the Bible, the Koran, or your VCR instruction manual, doesn't matter.[/quote]
good view,i agree with you.

but know i wanna talk about the game some more is it for consoles or just pc?
 
[quote name='solid snake']good view,i agree with you.

but know i wanna talk about the game some more is it for consoles or just pc?[/QUOTE]
I went off on a bit of a tangent there.

I believe its only for PC. I would find it funny if a console picked it up and started an ad campaign to attract evangelicals. It would certainly be an untapped market, i.e. the Christbox. The X in Xmas stands for Christ... Why not the X in Xbox? Theres no power greater than X!
 
[quote name='Moxio']Oh dear they left Hindhuism out! Now the game is incomplete and won't get a good score from GameSpot! :'([/quote]
lol
 
[quote name='62t']they left out scientist. I am planning to act out screen from Dan Brown's book
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:dunce: Everyone knows all scientists are atheists, besides all that science stuff won't do no good against the devil.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I went off on a bit of a tangent there.

I believe its only for PC. I would find it funny if a console picked it up and started an ad campaign to attract evangelicals. It would certainly be an untapped market, i.e. the Christbox. The X in Xmas stands for Christ... Why not the X in Xbox? Theres no power greater than X![/quote]

I swear, that reminds me of the Family Guy Christmas episode: "No, shes my sexbox, and her name is Sony!"
 
Catholicism may not have been the first (since we don't know really what other disciples taught), though the eastern orthodox church broke off after catholicism crushed the opposition. That was well before martin luther.

[quote name='solid snake']no we dont pick and choose i have read alot of the bible and from what i have gathered i believe as long as you believe in jesus and that he forgives you for your sins and you are willing to turn away from them then your saved.[/quote]

I don't consider myself a catholic (though I was raised one), but this is one of the things I've liked about catholicism. No matter how much you believe in jesus, it means nothing if you aren't actually a good person. There seems to be much more emphasis on the requirement of behaving well, and not just believing.

And the Crusades were a wonderful Christian event. Let's take back the holy land and slaughter as many Muslims as we can find! Let's not forget the "conversion" of the savages in the new world.
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Don't forget jews and any christians (and christian cities, like constantinople) that were an inconvenience.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I don't consider myself a catholic (though I was raised one), but this is one of the things I've liked about catholicism. No matter how much you believe in jesus, it means nothing if you aren't actually a good person. There seems to be much more emphasis on the requirement of behaving well, and not just believing.[/QUOTE]
A religion is only as good as the person who claims it.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']
Don't forget jews and any christians (and christian cities, like constantinople) that were an inconvenience.[/quote]
Next thing you know you're going to tell me the civil war wasn't just about ending slavery.;)
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Catholicism may not have been the first (since we don't know really what other disciples taught), though the eastern orthodox church broke off after catholicism crushed the opposition. That was well before martin luther.



I don't consider myself a catholic (though I was raised one), but this is one of the things I've liked about catholicism. No matter how much you believe in jesus, it means nothing if you aren't actually a good person. There seems to be much more emphasis on the requirement of behaving well, and not just believing.
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If you really believe that a truck's heading toward you, you're gonna act like you believe a truck's heading toward you and jump out of the way, right?
do you get what i am saying?
if you truly believe,than you will be good ,but everyone falls into sin,except Jesus.
i get what your saying you cant say i am sinning but i dont care and keep on doing but claim to be a christian you have to try and turn away from sin and help your fellow man.
 
[quote name='Brak']A religion is only as good as the person who claims it.[/quote]

I'm not sure if you are making a specific response to something I said, or just a more general point that isn't directly related to it.

If you really believe that a truck's heading toward you, you're gonna act like you believe a truck's heading toward you and jump out of the way, right?
do you get what i am saying?
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Yes, but it's a very poor argument. Many people strongly believe in christianity and are horrible people, and vice versa.

And you're going to get general agreement about convicted murderers that murdering is wrong, and most will genuinely regret their behavior. Yet they still killed.


if you truly believe,than you will be good ,but everyone falls into sin,except Jesus.
i get what your saying you cant say i am sinning but i dont care and keep on doing but claim to be a christian you have to try and turn away from sin and help your fellow man.
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I had a difficult time following the part in bold.

There are many different things to focus on in religion, many different interpretations. For example, Osama Bin Laden follows Islams the way he understands it, and Fred Phelps follows christianity the way he understands it. So do clinic bombers and the taliban. Those are extreme examples, but I chose them because they are easily defined as negative and are recognizable. They both have the faith aspect, but can you really suggest they're good people? Your argument assumes that people identify a beneficial form of their religion, agree on that form, and have the will and desire to actually follow it in their daily lives.

A lot of otherwise good people do horrible things, or have certain aspects of their lives where they behave horribly, and that aspect may very well be something they see as an asset.

I think it's problematic to assume that belief always contributes to deeds, and, when it does, that those deads are good.

Look, if you're a good person and have the appropriate beliefs then you will be rewarded according to any christian group. But in catholicism, the believer who does not do good works, but the non-believer who does, if one is to be rewarded then it will be the non-believer. I don't see why god should be overly concerned about someone proclaiming belief when their life has not reflected it.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I'm not sure if you are making a specific response to something I said, or just a more general point that isn't directly related to it.



Yes, but it's a very poor argument. Many people strongly believe in christianity and are horrible people, and vice versa.

And you're going to get general agreement about convicted murderers that murdering is wrong, and most will genuinely regret their behavior. Yet they still killed.




I had a difficult time following the part in bold.

There are many different things to focus on in religion, many different interpretations. For example, Osama Bin Laden follows Islams the way he understands it, and Fred Phelps follows christianity the way he understands it. So do clinic bombers and the taliban. Those are extreme examples, but I chose them because they are easily defined as negative and are recognizable. They both have the faith aspect, but can you really suggest they're good people? Your argument assumes that people identify a beneficial form of their religion, agree on that form, and have the will and desire to actually follow it in their daily lives.

A lot of otherwise good people do horrible things, or have certain aspects of their lives where they behave horribly, and that aspect may very well be something they see as an asset.

I think it's problematic to assume that belief always contributes to deeds, and, when it does, that those deads are good.

Look, if you're a good person and have the appropriate beliefs then you will be rewarded according to any christian group. But in catholicism, the believer who does not do good works, but the non-believer who does, if one is to be rewarded then it will be the non-believer. I don't see why god should be overly concerned about someone proclaiming belief when their life has not reflected it.[/quote]
well we arent super human and we are not God,so we cant just do good all the time actually sometimes what we think is good turns out to be bad like the example of bin laiden you gave,but it is a plus to do deeds for people ,we are suppose to love our fellow man and one part of the bible i remember reading t says faith is nothing with out love.
as long as we try to do good and lead good lives,believe that jesus has saved us and are willing to turn away from sin and have love we are safe,at least i believe that.
 
[quote name='Brak']Yeah; Mother Teresa sucked![/QUOTE]

Actually, some would agree with you. Do a google search for "The Ghoul of Calcutta" and read from there. Personally, I think that Hitchens has a vicious streak a mile wide, and chose a rather easy target. However, I also think that some of his points are valid.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']:dunce: Everyone knows all scientists are atheists, besides all that science stuff won't do no good against the devil.[/QUOTE]

I dunno, I kill't him in Doom with a chainsaw.
 
[quote name='solid snake']well we arent super human and we are not God,so we cant just do good all the time actually sometimes what we think is good turns out to be bad like the example of bin laiden you gave,but it is a plus to do deeds for people ,we are suppose to love our fellow man and one part of the bible i remember reading t says faith is nothing with out love.
as long as we try to do good and lead good lives,believe that jesus has saved us and are willing to turn away from sin and have love we are safe,at least i believe that.[/quote]

No ones saying you have to do good all the time, but unless you're saying you can't live a good life then I don't see the argument.

If you think believing in christianity results in leading a good life, then this should be a non-issue. Actions speak louder than words, you can believe whatever you want but unless it's reflected in your actions then it's meaningless.
 
Ehh, even though I was raised Catholic (in a Buddhist family, lol), I'm not religious now. I figure that if there really was some kind of higher being out there, then as long as I live a good life and I help people because I want to, not because I'm trying to buy myself into some heaven, then I'd be okay. If "God" still condemns good people to hell simply because of their religious beliefs, then I don't want to go to His heaven anyway.

Poor Buddhists; when was the last time they started a huge religious war?
 
[quote name='vietgurl']Ehh, even though I was raised Catholic (in a Buddhist family, lol), I'm not religious now. I figure that if there really was some kind of higher being out there, then as long as I live a good life and I help people because I want to, not because I'm trying to buy myself into some heaven, then I'd be okay. If "God" still condemns good people to hell simply because of their religious beliefs, then I don't want to go to His heaven anyway.[/quote]

This is exactly how I feel - I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school and my parents still go to church every Sunday but I just don't buy into the whole thing... I guess there has to be a higher power because my feeble brain can't comprehend how we all got here and why Yoshi's Island and Pearl Jam are the bee's knees but the concept of an all-knowing and all-loving god who judges your life after you die seems so ridiculous - didn't people used to think the world was flat too? If I'm wrong, I'd like to think as long as I've lived a good life and tried to do what's right and pass that on to my kids I'll sneak into heaven...
 
Well, the whole protestant/catholic thing has a long history. Though I always assumed that it was dead and no one cared anymore, outside of racist circles (like the kkk) anyway. Guess that's what happens when you grow up in the northeast.
 
So, let me get this straight-

Jesus loves me unconditionally and died to wash away my sins, but will burn me for all eternity if I don't accept him as my savior.

God is one hell of a selfish bastard.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']So, let me get this straight-

Jesus loves me unconditionally and died to wash away my sins, but will burn me for all eternity if I don't accept him as my savior.

God is one hell of a selfish bastard.[/quote]
no hes not he gave you life,all God ask is that you acceapt his gift and are willing to turn away from sin.
 
You know, I was brought up Southern Baptist *I can hear everyone cringing with me*, and I always thought it retarded that asking to be "saved" was the one and only way into heaven. Of course now, I have a dislike and distrust of all organized religion.

Personally, I believe what Jean-Paul Sartre once said, "Hell is other people".
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']You know, I was brought up Southern Baptist *I can hear everyone cringing with me*, and I always thought it retarded that asking to be "saved" was the one and only way into heaven.Of course now, I have a dislike and distrust of all organized religion.

Personally, I believe what Jean-Paul Sartre once said, "Hell is other people".[/quote]
i think you all ready posted this,you dont have to ask to be saved all you have to do is acceapt that jesus is the son of God and that he died for you others on the cross so he has really paid the price for your sins all ready and beaten the second death.
all you have to do is acceapt God/Jesus in to your life,and be willing to turn away from sin.

and i dont really put a label on what kind of Christian i am just not catholic.
 
[quote name='solid snake']no hes not he gave you life,all God ask is that you acceapt his gift and are willing to turn away from sin.[/QUOTE]

And stay away from the homos.

BTW, snake, did you know that capitalism is prohibited according to the bible. Although you're already going to hell for eating shrimp, you'll be going to hell for buying/selling/trading in an advanced capitalist society.

Just your friendly reminder for the day - and I don't that one's from Leviticus.
 
[quote name='solid snake']i think you all ready posted this,you dont have to ask to be saved all you have to do is acceapt that jesus is the son of God and that he died for you others on the cross so he has really paid the price for your sins all ready and beaten the second death.
all you have to do is acceapt God/Jesus in to your life,and be willing to turn away from sin.

and i dont really put a label on what kind of Christian i am just not catholic.[/QUOTE]


I love self parody.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']And stay away from the homos.

BTW, snake, did you know that capitalism is prohibited according to the bible. Although you're already going to hell for eating shrimp, you'll be going to hell for buying/selling/trading in an advanced capitalist society.

Just your friendly reminder for the day - and I don't that one's from Leviticus.[/quote]
thats the old testament, we are no longer under that set of rules all though some of it is good to read.
the new testament is what people should follow if you claim to be a christian.
and btw no one that Acceapts Jesus as thier saviour is saved as long as you are willing to stop sinning and no i found out eating shell fish and stuff is not a sin today but if some where were to feel it wrong to eat a certien animal then its sin to them.
be able to eat what we want is a gift that we recieved from God/Jesus its a blessing.
+you nor any one else is the Judge except God him self.
 
[quote name='solid snake']thats the old testament, we are no longer under that set of rules all though some of it is good to read.
the new testament is what people should follow if you claim to be a christian.
and btw no one that Acceapts Jesus as thier saviour is saved as long as you are willing to stop sinning and no i found out eating shell fish and stuff is not a sin today but if some where were to feel it wrong to eat a certien animal then its sin to them.
be able to eat what we want is a gift that we recieved from God/Jesus its a blessing.
+you nor any one else is the Judge except God him self.[/QUOTE]

Well...

[quote name='solid snake']no we dont pick and choose i have read alot of the bible and from what i have gathered i believe as long as you believe in jesus and that he forgives you for your sins and you are willing to turn away from them then your saved.

but the catholics believe that some people are holyer than others like for example the pope even though the bible says all Christians are saints.
God/Jesus is the only one i will worship ,but lets not turn this in to an argue ment about religion its about a game.[/QUOTE]

So, you're picking and choosing what parts of the bible to believe in?

Also, for the record that silly part about homosexuality being an "abomination" (much like menstruation in the same book, but I digress) is in Leviticus. The Old Testament. So it's okay to be a Christian homosexual? Is that what you're telling me?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well...



So, you're picking and choosing what parts of the bible to believe in?

Also, for the record that silly part about homosexuality being an "abomination" (much like menstruation in the same book, but I digress) is in Leviticus. The Old Testament. So it's okay to be a Christian homosexual? Is that what you're telling me?[/quote]
no,its different things have changed,its not an abomanation its simply a sin because Jesus has saved us.
the new testament is what we should follow,if the old testament applied to today and if Jesus never came then we would all be doomed.
but fortunetly,God/Jesus loves us so he saved us from the 2nd death known as hell plus if you believe that the old testament applies to today your #1 wrong and #2 if you truly believe that it still applies you better start stoneing people.
if you all just learn some more you will start to understand it,see i understand if your not religious and you dont understand what i am saying it can be compared to the weird kid at school the other kids all pick and make fun of him because they dont understand him.
 
[quote name='solid snake']thats the old testament, we are no longer under that set of rules all though some of it is good to read.
the new testament is what people should follow if you claim to be a christian.
and btw no one that Acceapts Jesus as thier saviour is saved as long as you are willing to stop sinning and no i found out eating shell fish and stuff is not a sin today but if some where were to feel it wrong to eat a certien animal then its sin to them.
be able to eat what we want is a gift that we recieved from God/Jesus its a blessing.
+you nor any one else is the Judge except God him self.[/quote]

[quote name='Jesus Christ']Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.

(Matthew 5:17 NAB)[/quote]

So tell me - do you have to pay attention to the New Testament's Jesus Christ to a be Christian, or is that optional these days as well?
 
[quote name='camoor']So tell me - do you have to pay attention to the New Testament's Jesus Christ to a be Christian, or is that optional these days as well?[/quote]
well i just looked up that chapter and it said something a little different
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
he is saying he has come to fullfill what is suppose to happen,and that thing about the shrimp and stuff,i found a chapter a couple days ago that said for if we eat in faith then its not a sin but if you feel wrong eating a certien animal, then do not eat it because it is not in faith that you eat it it would be from sin in your heart.
 
[quote name='solid snake']well i just looked up that chapter and it said something a little different
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.[/quote]

That's the problem with reading the bible, you can have two sides of a debate simply by reading the same line in different translations.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']That's the problem with reading the bible, you can have two sides of a debate simply by reading the same line in different translations.[/quote]
i like the king james version it helps me understand more.
but yeah i see what your saying you just have to ask God to help you understand it and know how to read it.
alot of things are not meant to be taken literaly allso like some one before me stated.
 
Out of curiousity, how old are you solid snake? Just wondering because honestly, your musings have the sound of youth group brainwashing sessions
 
[quote name='solid snake']well i just looked up that chapter and it said something a little different
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
he is saying he has come to fullfill what is suppose to happen...[/quote]

Wow what a coincidence - I was born to fullfill what is supposed to happen as well. Maybe I'm Jesus!
 
[quote name='camoor']Wow what a coincidence - I was born to fullfill what is supposed to happen as well. Maybe I'm Jesus![/quote]

i mean what it says in the old testiment it has prophices of Jesus coming and he is saying he has come to full fill the prophicies not change them.
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']Out of curiousity, how old are you solid snake? Just wondering because honestly, your musings have the sound of youth group brainwashing sessions[/quote]


Actually i havent been to church in a long long time i think the last time i attended church was more than 3 to 4 years ago.
I just believe what i believe in and read from the bible,and i have talked to a few people.
but no i havent been "brain washed" I examine what i believe in carefully,i think about it allso and think about what other people believe allso,and while thier isnt any hard evidence of what i believe in i still believe,and pray plus i found Jesus on my own a long time ago i had just felt really bad about doing something and i was praying to God for his help and told him i wanted to be forgiven for my sins and thanked him for his sacrafice for us,then this really incrediable feeling came over me and i am sorry if i am talking to much but it was like a enlightend feeling i constantly felt good,and all though feelings do change i know that Jesus/God is still with me.
I actually had a scary incident the other day at the emergency room and i thought i would have to have an operation but i prayed and prayed i wouldnt and god helped me no operation was needed.


sorry if that was to much talking just now i just felt like i needed to share that.
 
[quote name='solid snake']while thier isnt any hard evidence of what i believe in i still believe,and pray plus i found Jesus on my own a long time ago i had just felt really bad about doing something and i was praying to God for his help and told him i wanted to be forgiven for my sins and thanked him for his sacrafice for us,then this really incrediable feeling came over me and i am sorry if i am talking to much but it was like a enlightend feeling i constantly felt good,and all though feelings do change i know that Jesus/God is still with me.[/QUOTE]

Hate to be the one to tell you this but that was actually Satan.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Hate to be the one to tell you this but that was actually Satan.[/quote]
what?
the feeling no its not its the joy of finding him but someimes people do get cocky and become prideful from it then thats bad,but thats not the case with me.
 
[quote name='solid snake']what?
the feeling no its not its the joy of finding him but someimes people do get cocky and become prideful from it then thats bad,but thats not the case with me.[/quote]

Go tell Kirk Cameron that before he destroyed Growing Pains...
 
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