Craig from Craigslist comments the bill that could destroy net neutrallity

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Commentary: Keep the Internet neutral, fair and free



By Craig Newmark
Special to CNN



Editor's note: Craig Newmark is the founder and customer service representative of craigslist.org, an online community that helps people find jobs, places to live or other services unique to their city. In 2005, Time magazine named him one of America's most influential people.

Mike McCurry presents an opposing viewpoint in an accompanying commentary.

(CNN) -- Most Americans believe that if you play fair and work hard, you'll get ahead. But this notion is threatened by legislation passed Thursday night by the U.S. House of Representatives that would allow Internet service providers to play favorites among different Web sites.
Here's a real world example that shows how this would work. Let's say you call Joe's Pizza and the first thing you hear is a message saying you'll be connected in a minute or two, but if you want, you can be connected to Pizza Hut right away. That's not fair, right? You called Joe's and want some Joe's pizza. Well, that's how some telecommunications executives want the Internet to operate, with some Web sites easier to access than others. For them, this would be a money-making regime.
Next stop is the Senate. If this becomes law, your Yahoo Inc. e-mail account could operate more slowly, unless Yahoo ponies up big bucks to the major telecommunication companies that bring the Internet into your home. By the same token, your craigslist classifieds (I'm the Craig from craigslist) could grind to a halt, unless my company pays up. This is not fair.
Telecommunication companies already control the pipes that carry the Internet into your home. Now they want control which sites you visit and how you experience them. They would provide privileged access for themselves and their preferred partners while charging other businesses for varying levels of service.
But why change a good thing? Right now, the Internet is a level playing field for everyone. The wonky term for this is "Net neutrality." When the Internet is neutral, everyone can use it, just like everyone can use public roads or airwaves. All businesses on the Internet get an equal shot at success.
Here's how Susan Crawford, a professor of cyberlaw and intellectual property at Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law in New York City, puts it:
"Think of the pipes and wires that you use to go online as a sidewalk. The question is whether the sidewalk should get a cut of the value of the conversations that you have as you walk along? The traditional telephone model has been that the telephone company doesn't get paid more if you have a particularly meaningful call -- they're just providing a neutral pipe."
That's the gist of the issue. The telecom executives tell us that they can be trusted to play fair to let all companies, and not just their paying partners, be equally accessible from homes everywhere. But some of these executives have admitted that they intend to cheat.
William L. Smith, the chief technology officer for Atlanta-based BellSouth Corp., recently told the Washington Post that BellSouth should, for example, be able to charge Yahoo Inc. for the opportunity to have its search site load faster than that of Google Inc. or vice versa. "If I go to the airport, I can buy a coach standby ticket or a first-class ticket," Smith said. "In the shipping business, I can get two-day air or six-day ground."
In my view, executives like Smith forget that they get the use of public resources, like the airwaves and public rights of way, on which they have built their businesses and made a lot of money. As such, they shouldn't be able to squeeze out some Web sites in favor of others. This would be a betrayal of the public trust.
You, the consumer, should be able to choose which sites you want to visit without the telecommunications companies interfering. What it really comes down to is this: The telecommunications executives say we should trust them to provide a level playing field of service, but can they be trusted to play fair?
You already know the answer. If not, ask your repair guy why he didn't show up when promised or consider why the telecom companies block some high-tech services from reaching your cell phone as their own services flourish, as reported recently
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by Walter Mossberg in the Wall Street Journal. Or how about the fake grass-roots Web sites, such as Hands off the Internet
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, the telecom industry has set up to support its cause? Is that the height of honesty?
It seems to me that many telecom execs have a deep investment in "truthiness," where they make claims about this or that thing without bothering to support those claims with facts. Perhaps the clearest example of this behavior is when they say that keeping the Net neutral, as it is now, involves more government intervention and regulation, when really the opposite is true.
So let's keep the Net as it is now: Neutral, fair and free. If you care about this issue, please visit Save the Internet
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and write to Congress
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Net neutrallity is an issue that everyone here on CAG should be concerned about. Think about it, how much money might Best Buy (or Circuit City, or Gamestop, or EB, or any other merchant annoyed by a class of customers dedicated to only buying the cheap, low-profit items) be willing to pony up to ensure that sites like this one become harder to access? Not actually BLOCK the site, of course - that would be too noticable. Just drop the 'priority' of traffic from this site down to the bottom of the heap so that the site is always slow.

That's essentially what the fight for net neutrality is about: Is the internet a fair and level playing field, or can the big corporations pay to ensure that they're the only ones easily accessible>
 
Who voted for this crap in the House?

EDIT: To answer my own question after a little research, here we go:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll239.xml (vote on the Markey amendment to the bill)

Republican: Yes - 11, No - 211
Democrats: Yes - 140, No - 58
Independent: Yes -1
Total: Yes - 152, No - 269, Not Voting - 11

Looks like most of the Republicans and about 1/3 of Democrats are responsible.
 
I've known about this for sometime now and it's really scary stuff that will only hurt consumers (and companies both large and small) and really will only benefit those who own the internet backbone.
I hope this bill dies in the Senate. I've emailed Iowa's senators, and I'm even considering calling. This is something that every CAG should be worried about.
 
Greedy oligopolistic Telcom corps tricking consumers into giving them control of the internet!? That's it!!!
HULK MAD!!!!
:rampages through CAG:

Hmmm... I wonder if Best Buy/GameStop/Circuit City/Sears/any other major store would pay Telcom companies to make CAG, FW, and/or the rest of the deal sites load slower. Something to think about...
 
I'm more shocked that Craig from Craigslist is one of America's most influential people... next we'll see Tom from Myspace on that list as well.

I wonder what his stance is?
 
[quote name='Cao Cao']Greedy oligopolistic Telcom corps tricking consumers into giving them control of the internet!? That's it!!!
HULK MAD!!!!
:rampages through CAG:

Hmmm... I wonder if Best Buy/GameStop/Circuit City/Sears/any other major store would pay Telcom companies to make CAG, FW, and/or the rest of the deal sites load slower. Something to think about...[/quote]

I think most of the game retailers (with the exception of Best Buy) support CAG
 
[quote name='camoor']I think most of the game retailers (with the exception of Best Buy) support CAG[/quote]
I cant speak either way for that but I know they should. Sure there are times when something is going on that I get a product for way less than I should .. but in the long run I've spent so much more on video games than I ever would've had I not found CAG.

And as for the op, this is truly scary stuff. If it were to pass I wonder if perhaps political sites and/or affiliated special interest group sites could be pressured to be limited or increased as a result. Let's just say (and I'm not speaking of Republicans in this case .. this is sheer hypothetical) a group that's in power in the senate and the white house decides that they want to pressure the telecoms to limit the bandwith on the opposition's and their affiliate's websites near election time. Perhaps I'm not understanding this bill but wouldnt this be a major concern?
 
WTF, that's a horrible bill.

Jesus, are they trying to fucking turn the world into "1984"? Seriously, WTF. That's so awful.

God, that's depressing. How much longer till democracy and equality in this country is completely demolished? fuck.
 
What amazes me the most is that there are actually people out there that think that ending net neutrality is a viable option. I don't even want to think of what the internet would turn into should telecom companies win...
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Who voted for this crap in the House?

EDIT: To answer my own question after a little research, here we go:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll239.xml (vote on the Markey amendment to the bill)

Republican: Yes - 11, No - 211
Democrats: Yes - 140, No - 58
Independent: Yes -1
Total: Yes - 152, No - 269, Not Voting - 11

Looks like most of the Republicans and about 1/3 of Democrats are responsible.[/QUOTE]
Jesus, congressmen are worse than lawyers now.
 
A bunch of old people acting like Luddites? Supporting giant corporations over the principles this country was founded on? Business as usual, friends, business as usual.
 
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