Damn, doesn't it suck having to grow up?

[quote name='SevereTireDamage']You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.[/quote]

I think a lot of this advice is coming from those of us who are married with kids.
 
[quote name='SevereTireDamage']You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.[/quote]

Just remind yourself that a lot of those pathetic seeming older people you meet whose most fond memories end with their teens are those who peaked in high school. Anybody who looks back on high school as a good time rather then a holding pen before real life probably had less to look forward to than you.

Some of the more important things in my life like getting paid for a published article or serious traveling didn't come until well into my thirties.
 
I guess none of you had that "pregnancy scare", or had one of you're good friends be pregnant the majority of the year (though not showing), and consistantly lie to you about it until the kid is actually born. I mean, I swear this girl only put on about 20 pounds over the entire course of her pregnancy.
 
[quote name='epobirs'][quote name='SevereTireDamage']You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.[/quote]

Just remind yourself that a lot of those pathetic seeming older people you meet whose most fond memories end with their teens are those who peaked in high school. Anybody who looks back on high school as a good time rather then a holding pen before real life probably had less to look forward to than you.

Some of the more important things in my life like getting paid for a published article or serious traveling didn't come until well into my thirties.[/quote]

I know my life didn't peak in high school, it's just that it was a really fun and exciting time in my life, and I wish I did some more fun and more exciting things during that time.
 
Well, I'm 17, and I have a lot of self-esteem issues, but I have some guidelines.

1. Drugs. NO. Life is surreal enough as it is. You don't need drugs to escape. Play a video game. Read a fantasy novel. Watch a Sci-Fi Epic. You want constructive escapism, not something that will leave you paralyzed as you drive stoned. The same goes for alcohol. DON'T.

2. Cliques: The last thing the world needs is idiots. We have enough of them. Be yourself. Don't try to get with idiots who just do what everyone else does (or, just as bad, does the OPPOSITE). Do what you want. Associate with whomever you like. If someone doesn't approve, they're not the boss of your life. Let them be with who they want and keep YOUR friends.

3. Relationships: You don't NEED a girlfriend/boyfriend in high school. Seriously. You don't. I've lived 17 years without one or even wanting one. If you want some companionship and can be mature, sure, go for someone you TRULY like (not just anyone). But you don't NEED one.

4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).

Let the obvious inquieries of my sex life thus commence.

Edit: Oh, yes, and despite my last rule, I see the irony in me choosing Miroku to be my avatar.
 
I would have had my parents hold me back in 8th grade. I was only 17 when I graduated. I could have lifted a lot more, and borken 60 feet in the shot put then gotten a free ride to an awesome school.
 
I hated high school years. The only thing I would have changed is my career path. I would rather live my 20-30 years again. Being single or dating made for alot of free time. Also you had the liberty to f it and do whatever. No nagging about playing games, could play for a whole day before going out. Countless nights out with buddies and hanging with older women. Drinking Blanck and Tans and eating wings. Those were the days!!!
 
[quote name='BakaHoushi']Well, I'm 17, and I have a lot of self-esteem issues, but I have some guidelines.

1. Drugs. NO. Life is surreal enough as it is. You don't need drugs to escape. Play a video game. Read a fantasy novel. Watch a Sci-Fi Epic. You want constructive escapism, not something that will leave you paralyzed as you drive stoned. The same goes for alcohol. DON'T.

2. Cliques: The last thing the world needs is idiots. We have enough of them. Be yourself. Don't try to get with idiots who just do what everyone else does (or, just as bad, does the OPPOSITE). Do what you want. Associate with whomever you like. If someone doesn't approve, they're not the boss of your life. Let them be with who they want and keep YOUR friends.

3. Relationships: You don't NEED a girlfriend/boyfriend in high school. Seriously. You don't. I've lived 17 years without one or even wanting one. If you want some companionship and can be mature, sure, go for someone you TRULY like (not just anyone). But you don't NEED one.

4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).

Let the obvious inquieries of my sex life thus commence.

Edit: Oh, yes, and despite my last rule, I see the irony in me choosing Miroku to be my avatar.[/quote]

I'm suprised no ones flamed you yet, while I don't agree with your ideas, I also don't really agree with theres, but i'll keep my opinions to myself, at least your representing the other end of the spectrum.
 
I like this alot!


[quote name='BakaHoushi']Well, I'm 17, and I have a lot of self-esteem issues, but I have some guidelines.

1. Drugs. NO. Life is surreal enough as it is. You don't need drugs to escape. Play a video game. Read a fantasy novel. Watch a Sci-Fi Epic. You want constructive escapism, not something that will leave you paralyzed as you drive stoned. The same goes for alcohol. DON'T.

2. Cliques: The last thing the world needs is idiots. We have enough of them. Be yourself. Don't try to get with idiots who just do what everyone else does (or, just as bad, does the OPPOSITE). Do what you want. Associate with whomever you like. If someone doesn't approve, they're not the boss of your life. Let them be with who they want and keep YOUR friends.

3. Relationships: You don't NEED a girlfriend/boyfriend in high school. Seriously. You don't. I've lived 17 years without one or even wanting one. If you want some companionship and can be mature, sure, go for someone you TRULY like (not just anyone). But you don't NEED one.

4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).

Let the obvious inquieries of my sex life thus commence.

Edit: Oh, yes, and despite my last rule, I see the irony in me choosing Miroku to be my avatar.[/quote]
 
[quote name='SpookyD']
I'm suprised no ones flamed you yet, while I don't agree with your ideas, I also don't really agree with theres, but i'll keep my opinions to myself, at least your representing the other end of the spectrum.[/quote]

Well, I don't mean to shove my beliefs down other's throats. I just meant this is how I lived my life and I think it's a damn pretty good rules to live by. But I also know I'm very strict. I mean, that's WHY I have self-esteem issues.
 
[quote name='BakaHoushi']
4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).

Let the obvious inquieries of my sex life thus commence.[/quote]

Okay friend, come back and talk to me in 5 to 10 years. I'd honestly like to know if you have any regrets for not boning any chicks after that.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']
Okay friend, come back and talk to me in 5 to 10 years. I'd honestly like to know if you have any regrets for not boning any chicks after that.[/quote]

Let's also just say, considering I'm 17, I should be at the point in my life where the hormones are flowing the most. Considering I haven't come to a point even considerably remotely close to needing sex, I think that says something. Plus, I have this thing called a code of honor/moral code, which I obey religiously. In it, it states that sex is not something one leaves to chance. A lot of people would tell me, "but it might be the greatest thing you ever feel in your life!" Well, then, first of all, why the rush? It's like seeing a movie a few weeks after everyone else: You get the same, raw, good feeling, just a little later. Second of all, at this age, there are PLENTY of risks to consider with sex. Why chance it, again, for that 15 minutes of satisfaction? I do live a cautious life, and if I do what I feel is correct, I do not have regrets.
 
Most that I would have had intrest in wouldn't have interest in me.

Believe it or not, I am and was the prototypical nice guy... and got (and still do) get walked all over for it.

Why not change? Because the good outweighs the bad.
 
[quote name='BakaHoushi'][quote name='Grave_Addiction']
Okay friend, come back and talk to me in 5 to 10 years. I'd honestly like to know if you have any regrets for not boning any chicks after that.[/quote]

Let's also just say, considering I'm 17, I should be at the point in my life where the hormones are flowing the most. Considering I haven't come to a point even considerably remotely close to needing sex, I think that says something. Plus, I have this thing called a code of honor/moral code, which I obey religiously. In it, it states that sex is not something one leaves to chance. A lot of people would tell me, "but it might be the greatest thing you ever feel in your life!" Well, then, first of all, why the rush? It's like seeing a movie a few weeks after everyone else: You get the same, raw, good feeling, just a little later. Second of all, at this age, there are PLENTY of risks to consider with sex. Why chance it, again, for that 15 minutes of satisfaction? I do live a cautious life, and if I do what I feel is correct, I do not have regrets.[/quote]

As long as your happy, thats whats important (besides not making other people to unhappy, thats not very nice).
 
I'm 17 right now, and hell I already wanna go back to being younger. I liked when I was in elementry school and like the smartest kid without trying. Now I am in highschool with my grade consistantly dropping every year, hopefully this year, senior year, I will do better (not that 2.67 isnt ok). Just remember, if you cant get any girls, you always got two hands.
 
[quote name='BakaHoushi']4. Sex. Desipte what 99% of this board has said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX IN HIGH SCHOOL. LIFE IS NOT ABOUT SEX (It STARTS a life, it's not its purpose). What will sleeping with that really hot girl across the hall give you? 15 minutes of satisfaction. You shouldn't regret not "doing it" with her. I know hormones get flowing. I've felt it, too (granted, I've yet to find a girl in person to be all that phsyically attractive). But really, use your head (And I'm talking about the one on your SHOULDERS, so, don't bother making that obvious joke).
[/quote]

Spoken like a true virgin. Being 17 and graduated, I think I can comment on this. This is probaly the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Wait, it probaly ranks behind... nothing.
I'd bone even more chicks than I did this time, if I got another chance.
 
[quote name='Storamin']
Spoken like a true virgin. Being 17 and graduated, I think I can comment on this. This is probaly the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Wait, it probaly ranks behind... nothing.
I'd bone even more chicks than I did this time, if I got another chance.[/quote]

I love the way people use virgin as an insult. F.Y.I. It doesn't strengthen your arguement. I speak from a platform of risk, which is fact, and stated my opinion, which I stated I do not force on others. "Bone" all the girls you like. But do please accept this award of "most opinionated fool I've met today." With no offense intended, of course. It's not like I didn't expect someone to say all this anyway. I've heard it all before.
 
[quote name='BakaHoushi'][quote name='Storamin']
Spoken like a true virgin. Being 17 and graduated, I think I can comment on this. This is probaly the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Wait, it probaly ranks behind... nothing.
I'd bone even more chicks than I did this time, if I got another chance.[/quote]

I love the way people use virgin as an insult. F.Y.I. It doesn't strengthen your arguement. I speak from a platform of risk, which is fact, and stated my opinion, which I stated I do not force on others. "Bone" all the girls you like. But do please accept this award of "most opinionated fool I've met today." With no offense intended, of course. It's not like I didn't expect someone to say all this anyway. I've heard it all before.[/quote]
Insult? Who insulted. I just said you spoke like a true virgin. Which is the truth. Guess you can't handle the truth. Go take you and your lack of self confidence somewhere else.
 
"That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard." Yeah, saying that about my opinion is what I would define as an insult.
 
My opinion: if you are a virgin and claim you want to be a virgin you are 1. really religious 2. homosexual 3. can't get any women. Just my opinion.
 
I think BakaHoushi should be commended. Maybe if we had more people that cared about morals, etc...we wouldn't have had soldiers taking degrading pictures of prisoners overseas.

This country is seriously lacking in quite a lot of areas...mainly our characters and what is truly inportant in life. We should love and care about others and always be willing to take responsibility for our actions.
 
[quote name='BakaHoushi']"That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard." Yeah, saying that about my opinion is what I would define as an insult.[/quote]
Quite frankly, you're opinion is an insult!
 
[quote name='Storamin']Quite frankly, you're opinion is an insult![/quote]

Well, aren't we the open-minded and grammar conscious individual. If the world had more people like you, I'd have problems with having too much self-esteem.

Now, let's settle this once and for all. I'm a cautious person. Perhaps sex will be the greatest joy in my life. But by the same token, maybe playing Russian Roullette would be the most exhilerating experience of my life. Do I want to take that risk? No, I don't. Some things I just don't feel are worth the risk and premarital sex is one of them. Disagree? Fine. I don't mind. I won't hold your opinion against you. You have the right to it. Bash my opinion? Hey, you're only bringing yourself down and you're not making any (intelligent and nice) friends. So, bash me all you want. You can't harm me. I have morals and that's something I'm proud of. Don't agree? Well, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN.
 
we are flaming now I thought were discussing something so why are we flaming now no one comment or post is stupid okay we all have different opinons.
 
The lesson here is: never have kids. I wish all the luck in the world to parents out there, lord knows some of them truly need it.
 
[quote name='Storamin'][quote name='BakaHoushi']"That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard." Yeah, saying that about my opinion is what I would define as an insult.[/quote]
Quite frankly, you're opinion is an insult![/quote]

Haha! I think I'll chime in and say that you're a blubbering dumbass for what you just said.

"How can it be bullshit to state a preference?" -- Rob, High Fidelity
 
Ya im 17 and im soo scared of being an adult...like i'll think about my grandparents and how i'll be like that someday and it makes me cry every once in a while....
 
BakaHoushi: I'm with you.
First, if you decide to not have sex for whatever reason, that's your decision and should be respected.
Secondly, I agree that there's too much focus on sex especially for youth.
I find a world where 'virgin' is an insult, just sad.
Sex, imho, is an 'adult' thing. 'Adulthood' can vary, but it sure looks like a lot of people on this board haven't hit it yet. As a kid, there's only so much time to be 'innocent', you'll be forced to grow up all too quickly anyway, don't rush it. Sex should also be special, and I have no regrets about not 'boning' [real mature term there, where are we, in a locker room?'] more girls in high school. I was actually 20, I think, when I had sex for the first time. Does that make someone who had sex at 14 somehow 'cooler' than me? If so, if their judgement of what's 'cool' is how many girls they've 'boned', and at what age, rather than, say, how many people can count on them as friends or rely on them as good human beings, well, refer to the original numbered list of 'Forget the 'cool' people--they're not.''
Not to mention, of course, the physical, emotional, and physiological risks that come with sex. Sex isn't bad, I love sex. But I love my wife, and I love to have sex with her because we're important to each other and want to make each other happy.
And, yes, I think there is a relationship [remember those? that's what it used to be about, rather than just 'boning'] between the increasing lack of respect for morals, ethics, boundaries, and the increasing lack of respect for other humans, whether that be school shootings, naked prisoner photos, or just acting like a jerkass on a web message board.

ElwoodCuse: I don't know if I'd agree with 'never have kids'. Kids aren't for everybody, and I don't think *everybody* should have kids, but I tell you what, my little boy changed my life entirely, and he's the best thing in it right now. Then again, [this bit not directed at you], I'm old fashioned--I'm married, plan to stay that way, and want to try to provide for my family. I guess that's not 'cool' anymore, I should be out 'boning' everyone I can, drinking, taking drugs, and just living a wild life.
 
[quote name='Moxio']So far I'm alright with growing up. But I sure wish I was back in kindergarten or preschool. Naptime, dawg.[/quote]

Are you in/did you go to college? The return of naptime : ) --depending on how you set up your class schedule. Many times I went back between classes to play volleyball or take a nap.

I had one quarter where my only class on Friday was a lab from 1300-1430. That was about the best quarter, my weekend generally started Thursday night at about 6 pm and ended Monday at 10 when my first class started [and no, my weekend didn't consist of getting blind drunk and hunting down 'meat' to score with.]

Don't forget, what comes around, goes around. Interesting tidbit: one time in college I met a girl and we had a pretty instant 'click', both emotional and physical. Started hanging around all the time, getting physical, [although not having sex], she virtually moved in with me in my dorm room. I go home one weekend, come back to find out--she had slept with [literally and figuratively] my across-the-hall neighbor, and alleged good friend, that weekend. He didn't know we were a 'couple' , which, apparently, neither did she. She came back onto me a couple days later, I was like, Um, no. If you drop it that easy, I don't want it. Not to mention, I can't/won't trust you anymore [many of my relationships had actual emotions involved]. And there was some fallout between my friend and I [we eventually settled up and became roommates when we moved to an apartment]. So, she was just trying to 'bone' as many guys as she could for whatever reason [she had some psychologial problems with acceptance and self-esteem], but to me, that made the time we spent together less special. Plus, for a few months after that, I was constantly worried I'd caught something. Neither she, nor the 'relationship', nor the brief periods of fun, were worth it.
Not to mention the dichotomy--for some reason, a guy who sleeps with a bunch of girls is a 'stud', but a girl is a 'slut', which is blatant sexism and hypocrisy in the worst way. And not true--in my opinion, that guy is a misogynistic, careless playboy wannabe.
 
[quote name='SevereTireDamage']You guys scare me a bit. I'm 23, and I've lived a fairly miserable life, and I don't see it getting any better. The thought that my "best" years are behind me are even more depressing. Hopefully despite the fact that I am not into drinking, drugs, or even going after girls, perhaps I just might find something worth living for.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do right? The grass must be fed and grown indubitably.[/quote]

You want to know something? When I turned 30 I thought I was screwed.

Life over the last 2 years could not have been better. I am established. I have money. I go on vacations. I have a great wife. I do whatever I want.

I am the Captain of my own ship.

It does get better.

CTL
 
[quote name='BigNick']I would have had my parents hold me back in 8th grade. I was only 17 when I graduated. I could have lifted a lot more, and borken 60 feet in the shot put then gotten a free ride to an awesome school.[/quote]

Nick are you from Indiana originally? Just curious because your story sounds like someone else I know.
 
[quote name='CTLesq'] I have a great wife. I do whatever I want.

I am the Captain of my own ship.

CTL[/quote]

Speaking as another married man, aren't those two concepts mutually exclusive? ; )

And I agree, there's 'fun' to any age, and you can make your own fun/happiness to an extent. I think the original point of the thread [ie, having many fewer responsibilities when young] is still valid, but has been lost.
 
[quote name='dtcarson'][quote name='CTLesq'] I have a great wife. I do whatever I want.

I am the Captain of my own ship.

CTL[/quote]

Speaking as another married man, aren't those two concepts mutually exclusive? ; )

And I agree, there's 'fun' to any age, and you can make your own fun/happiness to an extent. I think the original point of the thread [ie, having many fewer responsibilities when young] is still valid, but has been lost.[/quote]

Yeah, I was meaning for people to think about the things they were able to do that they can't do now and how much simpler life was then.

Now most people have house payments, car loans, utilities and all that other crap that goes along with paying bills. When we were young, the stress of being an adult was the last thing we thought about.

We only thought about all the "cool" things adults get to do, but if I had it to do over again, I would have tried to grow up a bit slower than I did.
 
[quote name='Indiana'][quote name='BigNick']I would have had my parents hold me back in 8th grade. I was only 17 when I graduated. I could have lifted a lot more, and borken 60 feet in the shot put then gotten a free ride to an awesome school.[/quote]

Nick are you from Indiana originally? Just curious because your story sounds like someone else I know.[/quote]

Nope, from CT.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction'][quote name='dtcarson'][quote name='CTLesq'] I have a great wife. I do whatever I want.

I am the Captain of my own ship.

CTL[/quote]

Speaking as another married man, aren't those two concepts mutually exclusive? ; )

And I agree, there's 'fun' to any age, and you can make your own fun/happiness to an extent. I think the original point of the thread [ie, having many fewer responsibilities when young] is still valid, but has been lost.[/quote]

Yeah, I was meaning for people to think about the things they were able to do that they can't do now and how much simpler life was then.

Now most people have house payments, car loans, utilities and all that other crap that goes along with paying bills. When we were young, the stress of being an adult was the last thing we thought about.

We only thought about all the "cool" things adults get to do, but if I had it to do over again, I would have tried to grow up a bit slower than I did.[/quote]

Not to mention--summer vacation. I remember leaving school in June with nothing but a part time job as my only responsibility to three months. Now summer just means higher electric bills and I have to wash my work clothes more often.
And that summer job--100 bucks a month went to car insurance, some for gas, the rest was generally spent on pizza, comics, and girls [not necessarily in that order].

alongx: If you don't mind the inquiry, why was high school so bad?
I wouldn't want to be a high schooler in today's schools, my school was very nice, quiet, peaceful--we had our troubles and troublemakers, but they were either patently obvious ['don't hang out near him'] or were 'behind the scenes' [the drugs and violence]. Nothing really disastrous happened during my four years, except for one car accident that killed 2 or 3 kids. I didn't know them, but my girlfriend at the time had been offered a ride by them that very night, so that part of it hit me close.
 
[quote name='dtcarson'][quote name='Moxio']So far I'm alright with growing up. But I sure wish I was back in kindergarten or preschool. Naptime, dawg.[/quote]

Are you in/did you go to college? The return of naptime : ) --depending on how you set up your class schedule. Many times I went back between classes to play volleyball or take a nap.

I had one quarter where my only class on Friday was a lab from 1300-1430. That was about the best quarter, my weekend generally started Thursday night at about 6 pm and ended Monday at 10 when my first class started [and no, my weekend didn't consist of getting blind drunk and hunting down 'meat' to score with.]

Don't forget, what comes around, goes around. Interesting tidbit: one time in college I met a girl and we had a pretty instant 'click', both emotional and physical. Started hanging around all the time, getting physical, [although not having sex], she virtually moved in with me in my dorm room. I go home one weekend, come back to find out--she had slept with [literally and figuratively] my across-the-hall neighbor, and alleged good friend, that weekend. He didn't know we were a 'couple' , which, apparently, neither did she. She came back onto me a couple days later, I was like, Um, no. If you drop it that easy, I don't want it. Not to mention, I can't/won't trust you anymore [many of my relationships had actual emotions involved]. And there was some fallout between my friend and I [we eventually settled up and became roommates when we moved to an apartment]. So, she was just trying to 'bone' as many guys as she could for whatever reason [she had some psychologial problems with acceptance and self-esteem], but to me, that made the time we spent together less special. Plus, for a few months after that, I was constantly worried I'd caught something. Neither she, nor the 'relationship', nor the brief periods of fun, were worth it.
Not to mention the dichotomy--for some reason, a guy who sleeps with a bunch of girls is a 'stud', but a girl is a 'slut', which is blatant sexism and hypocrisy in the worst way. And not true--in my opinion, that guy is a misogynistic, careless playboy wannabe.[/quote]

I was a man slut back in the day. But I never really considered most of the girls that slept around sluts. I thought of them as an easy, fun to be with, no strings attached piece of ass for the night or weekend or whatever. And for most of them I did have some respect.

But I will concur on your blatent sexism statement.

As I have stated before this type of mentality is reinforced by the sexual degradation of women by mass media. MTV is the biggest culprit
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']
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It's just that everything was so much easier when all you had to worry about is getting your homework done and trying to do your girlfriend in your room without your parents finding out.

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So now you're the parent, and sneaking sex with your wife without your children finding out, right?

"What's that little Timmy? You want to have a sleepover at your friend's house? SCORE!"
 
[quote name='WildWop'][quote name='Grave_Addiction']
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It's just that everything was so much easier when all you had to worry about is getting your homework done and trying to do your girlfriend in your room without your parents finding out.

...
[/quote]

So now you're the parent, and sneaking sex with your wife without your children finding out, right?

"What's that little Timmy? You want to have a sleepover at your friend's house? SCORE!"[/quote]

Hah hah, I hear that! :D
 
What about the college years, what do you guys feel about them? More fun/better than HS? What do you reccomend for college?
 
[quote name='bluetoast']What about the college years, what do you guys feel about them? More fun/better than HS? What do you reccomend for college?[/quote]

I'd imagine the rules for college are pretty close to the rules for high school only that the sex is much more important.
 
[quote name='dtcarson']BakaHoushi: I'm with you.
First, if you decide to not have sex for whatever reason, that's your decision and should be respected.
Secondly, I agree that there's too much focus on sex especially for youth.
I find a world where 'virgin' is an insult, just sad.
Sex, imho, is an 'adult' thing. 'Adulthood' can vary, but it sure looks like a lot of people on this board haven't hit it yet. As a kid, there's only so much time to be 'innocent', you'll be forced to grow up all too quickly anyway, don't rush it. Sex should also be special, and I have no regrets about not 'boning' [real mature term there, where are we, in a locker room?'] more girls in high school. I was actually 20, I think, when I had sex for the first time. Does that make someone who had sex at 14 somehow 'cooler' than me? If so, if their judgement of what's 'cool' is how many girls they've 'boned', and at what age, rather than, say, how many people can count on them as friends or rely on them as good human beings, well, refer to the original numbered list of 'Forget the 'cool' people--they're not.''
Not to mention, of course, the physical, emotional, and physiological risks that come with sex. Sex isn't bad, I love sex. But I love my wife, and I love to have sex with her because we're important to each other and want to make each other happy.
And, yes, I think there is a relationship [remember those? that's what it used to be about, rather than just 'boning'] between the increasing lack of respect for morals, ethics, boundaries, and the increasing lack of respect for other humans, whether that be school shootings, naked prisoner photos, or just acting like a jerkass on a web message board.

ElwoodCuse: I don't know if I'd agree with 'never have kids'. Kids aren't for everybody, and I don't think *everybody* should have kids, but I tell you what, my little boy changed my life entirely, and he's the best thing in it right now. Then again, [this bit not directed at you], I'm old fashioned--I'm married, plan to stay that way, and want to try to provide for my family. I guess that's not 'cool' anymore, I should be out 'boning' everyone I can, drinking, taking drugs, and just living a wild life.[/quote]

You are the kind of husband that every girl wants or needs. I congratulate you on this. I'm not gonna say anything else either, because this thread is just too ridiculous for me to even bother.
 
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