Dashboard update: XBox games coming to XBox Live

Games will cost approximately 1200 Microsoft Points, or $15 USD.
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Sounds to me like there's some wiggle room there. 15 dollars for some of these games is a bit much, but 10 bucks is perfectly reasonable. I bet we'll see at least a few less than 1200 points.
 
Riddiculously overpriced.

It would be really cool if I could just download the games I have to my HD and run them right from the dashboard. Unfortunately MS has to find a way to nickle-and-dime (or in this case Hamilton-and-Jackson) you for any fucking thing.

Even if the games were only $5 a pop, I'd only buy them again if they offered acheivements and online play (also: online play wherever there's a system-link feature in the original game). Basically, if I can't play Halo: Combat Evolved with this online, then MS can suck my ass.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Sounds to me like there's some wiggle room there. 15 dollars for some of these games is a bit much, but 10 bucks is perfectly reasonable. I bet we'll see at least a few less than 1200 points.[/quote]

Considering that XBLA games have been about 1200 or less (generally 800), it would strike me that prices would not be less than 1200, but more. Not that this is really the logical thing, but I can't see Microsoft offering these for less than 1200 with the current price structure in place.

On another note, if they did add achievements, would they give us 200 or 1000 points? I'm guessing around 500.
 
Soo... why would one pay another $15 for a game that they already bought in disk form? as well as if they don't have any room for the game to sit on their 360.
 
[quote name='Purkeynator']anyone else get the feeling that we will see no more B/C updates?[/quote]That's how I'm reading it. Probably their move to match Sony's stance of BC no longer being important, and this is their way to one-up them.

Maybe Sony will turn around and do the same thing for PS2 games. Yeah, when pigs fly. :roll:
 
Some people might 'drink and buy', but most gamers could pick up these and most other xbox titles for much cheaper at their local stores. I picked up Crimon Skies recently for $1.99...

To me, this is Microsoft sending a hypocriticial message:
1) No one players the older games anymore so we gave up on BC.
2) Some people still love the older games, so we're going to offer them on the Marketplace.

HUH?

Obviously, MS can make money on this. Personally, I'd rather pay 800-1200 points for a 30-50 added BC titles, but that will never happen.
 
okay, after looking at many ppl's posts, i have a strong desire to shoot ppl's dreams now, before it gets out of hand. take this as an "imho" thought:

1. no achievements- i highly doubt they will re-code the games for the 360 just to add this on. seems like a waste of money (on their part, that is)

2. no online play for originally single-player only titles- ditto

3. no titles for download that aren't already BC- explained below


so how COULD M$ implement this? simple. you download the original files for the xbox game, encrypted w/ some key, and that game would use the software emulator the 360 has for BC games. could M$ have titles for download not on the BC list? possible, but why wouldn't it be apart of the next BC update, since the emulator code would have been written? to be greedy, but it would come out eventually
 
[quote name='prmononoke']On another note, if they did add achievements, would they give us 200 or 1000 points? I'm guessing around 0.[/QUOTE]

Fixed; and now I agree.
 
When I saw the topic title I thought "Awesome! I'll be able to chat with my friends when I'm playing a regular xbox game!" But no, That isn't what is happening.

Instead, they are allowing downloads of regular xbox games! Oh well.
 
[quote name='ChaoticClimax']This thread boils down to:

Halo online or bust[/quote]

QFT. Halo for PC has the online goodness so maybe they'd port off off that version.??

As long as they don't take away the current BC, I'm good. NFL 2K5 & Riddick are the only two non-BC games I have and I already know those won't ever be BC.
 
Boooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want to fucking download a bunch of games that I already own, and have been waiting to play on my 360!:bomb:

Damn pot-lickers!
 
We all seem to be forgetting M$s MO on these sorts of things.

1) They are likely to hype this as a one time deal to test the waters and use HALO as one of a few games that are on xbla to purchace. If it goes very well, they will wait a year and a half to release more. It is very unlikely that they will prepare all the games they own for xbla at the same time.

2) Pricing is likely to be similar for all games, itunes style. Any game they sell will be good profit over store/used copies so it does not matter if they only sell a few hundred copies of a game at that price.

3) The kid factor, kids might not be able to talk family in to giving them game money, but they can get points cards as gifts. So, a choice between not having halo at all due to lack of $7, or paying $15 worth of points from the bank they already have means a $15 profit for M$.


I have made impulse buys on xbla, I'm sure most people have on nights that they are bored with the game they are playing and would like to play geo wars instead. Even now, I know I will buy E4 even though I think it's overpriced.
 
I can't help but wonder (if XB1 DLC titles is going to happen) if it's a double-edged sword.

IOW, if they release Halo, Fable, etc. for $15 to download, and when people balk at that price, they say "oh, I guess nobody's interested in XB1 BC," followed by a discontinuation of adding titles to (disc-based) BC.
 
i would definitely buy halo 1 (again) if it included online play. Also, i don't think they would do this without achievements and it seems like they would up the amount to really entice people. Don't downplay the power of achievements, there are a ton of people who will rebuy these games merely for a couple points.

and... for the guy who says trophies are better. Huh? Because trophies are non-existant?


edit: looks like joystiq says it's confirmed


http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/13/ms-confirms-downloadable-xbox-games-free-carcassonne-for-live-a/
 
Once again MS shoots themselves in the foot with pricing at 1200 points or roughly $15. All of the games they listed in the article can be bought new or used for under $10 with the case and manual mind you.
 
"along with 500 Microsoft Points to the ten folks who've been on board since 2002 -- see kids, early adoption does pay off!"

This part of the joystiq post is a little fuzzy. Anyone who's had XBL since 02 gets 500 points for free?? If so, cool, I've been on since the beta.
 
I definitely have no interest in this.

The X-box was my least played console that I've owned, so I pretty much played the few games that interested me last gen, and don't really want to play any of them again.

Plus $15 is too much and I don't want to take up the space on my 20GB hard drive.
 
[quote name='SL4IN']In for indigo prophecy![/quote]

See, now this is the type of shit that can be found at K-Mart for $4. Why pay $15 to dl a game that can be purchased for half that (or more) for the complete game? Even used prices on these games are better than what MS will charge to basically rent the game.

If people are fired up about this service, then I guess that's their prerogative. I just feel like we're being insulted as gamers (and consumers).
 
So anyone care to speculate on the price points? I'm thinking around 1300 points (or whatever the equivalent of 15 dollars is). These games are going to be overpriced, guaranteed. MS is not going to make any cags happy, that's for sure.
 
[quote name='klwillis45']"along with 500 Microsoft Points to the ten folks who've been on board since 2002 -- see kids, early adoption does pay off!"

This part of the joystiq post is a little fuzzy. Anyone who's had XBL since 02 gets 500 points for free?? If so, cool, I've been on since the beta.[/QUOTE]
probably means that you kept the same name and only renewed through the automatic renewal with no lapses.
 
I would only be interested in this if they made some previously Japan-only games available for DL, like Nintendo did with Sin & Punishment on the virtual console.
If Metal Wolf Chaos were to be released for DL I would be all over it.
 
[quote name='doctorfaustus']So anyone care to speculate on the price points? I'm thinking around 1300 points (or whatever the equivalent of 15 dollars is). These games are going to be overpriced, guaranteed. MS is not going to make any cags happy, that's for sure.[/quote]

the equivalent for 15 dollars is 1200 points, in the u.s.
 
While I think they should drop the pricing to $10 dollars on all these games I am really interested in the whole idea, this is where everything seems to be going, with Warhawk being downloadable it looks to be that everyone is testing the waters of getting rid of discs.

In the long run it saves them money because they don't have to make ridiculous collectors editions if you just get online and download it.

It will be interesting to see what this is like in a couple years if they have already caught up to the last generation being downloadable.
 
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/834/834703p1.html

November 13, 2007 - On November 15, Xbox Live turns five years old. To help mark the occasion, Microsoft has announced several bonuses and a new feature for its over 8 million members. If you missed out on the fun of the original Xbox, it looks like you won't have to scrounge through the used games bin for a second chance.

The big announcement of the day is unquestionably the upcoming launch of Xbox Originals. Beginning December 4, Xbox 360 owners will receive a free system update when they log onto Xbox Live. Along with a number of unannounced features, this update will give players the ability to download original, full Xbox games to play on Xbox 360. Each download will cost 1200 Microsoft Points ($15 USD).

The initial release list includes Halo, Psychonauts, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge and Fable, as well as other as of yet unnamed titles. Microsoft has promised that this lineup is only the beginning and that Xbox 360 owners can expect to see the catalog grow in the coming year.

Microsoft is also giving away, as a gesture of thanks, a free game for all Xbox Live members. Between November 15 at 12:01 PST and 11:59 PST on November 16, all active Xbox Live members can download an Xbox Live Arcade game for free. For those in Korea, the game will be Hexic 2. The rest of the world will have the opportunity to snag Carcossonne.

If you've been with Microsoft and Xbox Live since the very beginning, you'll also be in line for one more reward. Every active member who joined the service in 2002 will be credited 500 free Microsoft Points to use as they see fit.
 
Are there even any games available for 500 points? I guess 500 points for free is better than nothing. Especially since I won't be using the new service for old games. The points will automatically appear in our accounts?
 
[quote name='jonwindow2']

Microsoft is also giving away, as a gesture of thanks, a free game for all Xbox Live members. Between November 15 at 12:01 PST and 11:59 PST on November 16, all active Xbox Live members can download an Xbox Live Arcade game for free. For those in Korea, the game will be Hexic 2. The rest of the world will have the opportunity to snag Carcossonne.

If you've been with Microsoft and Xbox Live since the very beginning, you'll also be in line for one more reward. Every active member who joined the service in 2002 will be credited 500 free Microsoft Points to use as they see fit.[/quote]

that is awesome!!! go microsoft!
 
if halo came with new online support it would be a moment to fuck my pants

It would also be nice to add achievments to all these xbox games coming out.
 
cool but meh. unless they add all kinds of enhancements to them.
 
No one has asked this yet? Can people with the disc version of the game play online with people with the downloaded copy? Consider it's a game that already has online play like Crimson Skies.
 
I am considering getting Halo once it is available. However, I could just get a disc copy if they don't have any updates with this one. I would definitely buy it if it had achievements in it, and would think twice if it was the PC version with multiplayer.

Now MS just has to get Rare to put up their great N64 games, like the Banjo Kazooies, Jet Force Gemini, Perfect Dark, and Blast Corps, and I would put 800-1200 MS points down on those easily.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']No one has asked this yet? Can people with the disc version of the game play online with people with the downloaded copy? Consider it's a game that already has online play like Crimson Skies.[/quote]

Intriguing question, but I doubt it. They'll probably make it mandatory to dl the game in order to play it over Live.
 
Wait... I didn't read every reply here, but let me think about this...

Halo downloaded via LIVE = $15
Halo (physical copy new from BB) = $10

Umm...
 
[quote name='shieryda']Intriguing question, but I doubt it. They'll probably make it mandatory to dl the game in order to play it over Live.[/quote]

I'd think they would be compatible. They already have their Live servers running Crimson Skies, so why bother making a new DL only server?

If they add new content(like putting Halo online) then I could see the incompatibility argument making sense. However, if it's the same game, with just the format differing then there seems no reason to expect it.
 
While I do agree with all these complaints, I have been wanting to get Psychonauts ever since I got my 360. Unless someone can point out a site online where it is less than $15.00, I will probably end up getting it from this. (Plus I still have a ton of points from smarter child)
 
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