(DEAD) Xbox LIVE Labs: Earn Avatar Gear for network tests

Also, so people know. Just got through the second "30 minute Continuous" test and my Cumulative total had me at... 56 minutes. So yes it does add it together, which is nice. But apparently 30+30=56.
 
[quote name='Jaysonguy']You mean they're not pretending to find a cure for cancer like the people at Sony lied about for years you mean.

Simple mistake I know[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Thrinn']Folding@home doesn't have the sole purpose of just finding a cure for cancer, but rather a better understanding of how it works. It also focuses on Alzheimer's Disease, Huntington's Disease, Malaria, Parkinson's, and other aspects.

I don't think anyone expected a message to pop-up on their screen saying "Congratulations, your PS3 was the one that just found the cure for cancer". I'm not clear on how Sony lied about anything in this regard, especially when they aren't the ones running the project. Care to explain?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Folding @ Home isn't a "lie" this is real science, with multiple peer reviewed papers published from results already. Anyone who has the ability to should be running Folding @ Home.

[quote name='token2k6']wait, so this is the equivalent of folding@home? way to go MSFT..lets copy all ideas from 5 years ago..[/QUOTE]

No, this has nothing at all to do with Folding @ Home.

I'm wondering what the heck it is though, and how much data it transfers. I'm already using my (slow) connection to download huge games from GOG.com and the like, and don't want to put more burden on my ISP if I can help it. I mean is it just transfering stuff all the time?

I may do this though, particularly because I wouldn't mind them knowing we don't all have blazing fast internet connections...
 
[quote name='Hakudoshi']Second of all, the warning about "large amounts of data" IS NOT A JOKE. On average my console has been receiving about 600-800mb of data per 10 minutes on my connection. Roughly on average about 250-300mb per 5 minute periods. Over a period of 6 hours at 250mb per 5 minutes the total data transfer for incoming data alone would be roughly 17.5gb.

So if you are a Comcast customer or use an ISP that has a monthly cap. I suggest you watch your data usage if you decide to run this through completely. I use Comcast with a 250gb/mo cap and I already get close sometimes.[/QUOTE]......seriously? I have a 5GB download limit per month & is $2 for every GB I go over....I wish they mentioned the amount of data IN THE WARNING....Yeah, they state "large amounts", but not an estimate...

Well, hopefully, it's different for each person. How did you figure out how much data it was using?
 
Yeah, I'm curious about how you know your data amount too. It would be cool if my router could tell me.

And what do you do that you get close to the 250GB Comcast cap? I don't have a cap, supposedly. I just did the math, and if I were downloading 24/7 for 30 days at an average rate that's probably about what it would be, I'd use 291GB.

I do sometimes rent movies online though, and of course buy games from GOG and whatever, so I'm sure I go over 20GB/month quite a bit...
 
[quote name='Zonic505']......seriously? I have a 5GB download limit per month & is $2 for every GB I go over....I wish they mentioned the amount of data IN THE WARNING....Yeah, they state "large amounts", but not an estimate...

Well, hopefully, it's different for each person. How did you figure out how much data it was using?[/QUOTE]

Oh, but yeah, do NOT do this if you've got a 5GB cap! There's no way I could live with that :( I probably go over that just from my podcasts.
 
@Zonic505
I use a Linksys WRT54GL router with Tomato firmware installed. It has real-time bandwidth monitoring tools I can use to watch each device on the network in real-time. At this very moment, my 360 is pulling about 240kb/sec from my connection.

@Wolfpup
Some of your question can be answered above. As far as why I get close to the cap, I do A LOT of live streaming, watch a lot of netflix and YouTube and I tend to download a lot of the trial games from XBL as well lots of stuff from Steam. When you add a few GB here, a few GB there, a bunch of 720p HD video and such it adds up real fast.
 
I already did this for about 1.5 hours....Hopefully, it wasn't much. I'll have to see if I can have one of my friends do this on their 360.
 
Geez, I guess so!

Wouldn't surprise me if Tomato would run on my Linksys, though I'm just hesitant to mess with it. That's a very cool feature though, being able to see what it's doing like that. Don't know why Linksys doesn't build that in to begin with...
 
I'm running the first test now. It seems that the transfer speed is a continuous ~30-40 KB/s for the first 30-minute test.

EDIT: 7 minutes later on the first 30-minute test, it is now up to ~500-700 KB/s download.

EDIT: In the second test, it is about ~130 KB/s download.

EDIT: I'm running the third test now. The download speed is jumping up and down between ~400 KB/s and ~700 KB/s. After that, there is a few seconds of ~30-40 KB/s and then it jumps right back up to ~400-700 KB/s.

EDIT: Ok, the third test is now running at about ~130 KB/s download. It looks like this test is alternating to different download speeds.
Upload speed is around ~8-10 KB/s.

EDIT: Bewarned! I just got automatically disconnected from Xbox Live during the third test. I think it is because of inactivity. I had to connect again and resume.

This is my current bandwidth stat for today, running Xbox Live Labs for 3 hours so far (halfway done):
"March 10, 2011 (Incoming: 2174 MB / Outgoing: 143 MB)"
Not that much.

EDIT: I have completed all of the tests in 6 hours.

Here is my bandwidth stat for today after all of the tests have been completed:
"March 10, 2011 (Incoming: 3185 MB / Outgoing: 275 MB)"

Note that the bandwidth from Xbox Live Labs would be a bit less than that total because it is the combined bandwidth stat for today's WAN activity on my network.
 
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[quote name='XP1']I'm running the first test now. It seems that the transfer speed is a continuous ~30-40 KB/s for the first 30-minute test.

EDIT: 7 minutes later on the first 30-minute test, it is now up to ~500-700 KB/s download.

EDIT: In the second test, it is about ~130 KB/s download.

EDIT: I'm running the third test now. The download speed is jumping up and down between ~400 KB/s and ~700 KB/s. After that, there is a few seconds of ~30-40 KB/s and then it jumps right back up to ~400-700 KB/s.

EDIT: Ok, the third test is now running at about ~130 KB/s download. It looks like this test is alternating to different download speeds.
Upload speed is around ~8-10 KB/s.

EDIT: Bewarned! I just got automatically disconnected from Xbox Live during the third test. I think it is because of inactivity. I had to connect again and resume.

This is my current bandwidth stat for today, running Xbox Live Labs for 3 hours so far (halfway done):
"March 10, 2011 (Incoming: 2174 MB / Outgoing: 143 MB)"
Not that much.[/QUOTE]

I don't think Xbox Live disconnects you for inactivity...I don't think. At least I leave my Xbox paused for ages sometimes and I don't think it disconnects. Hopefully that disconnection gets logged or whatever by this thing!
 
@XP1
I have noticed very similar behavior in the speed as well. Based on just what I had observed in the earlier stages of the test my original estimate was around 17gb for the entire 6 hours. I think I can safely say that isn't the case.

My daily usage so far is:
Incoming: 4,422.18 MB
Outgoing: 137.87 MB

I haven't been doing anything all day other than mostly sitting here reading CAG and chatting on IM's so a good majority of that I expect to be from the 360 so far.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']I'm just starting it up and going to sleep, easily getting the 6 hours out of the way and waking up to all my "free" crap.[/QUOTE][quote name='nnthomas']Meh, just leave it on while asleep.[/QUOTE]Bewarned! I just got automatically disconnected from Xbox Live during the third test. I think it is because of inactivity. I had to connect again and resume.
[quote name='Wolfpup']I don't think Xbox Live disconnects you for inactivity...I don't think. At least I leave my Xbox paused for ages sometimes and I don't think it disconnects. Hopefully that disconnection gets logged or whatever by this thing![/QUOTE]I have had the Xbox 360 for years, and I have not noticed Xbox Live disconnect when inactive. It might have or have not been Xbox Live Labs, so I'm not sure.

[quote name='drktrpr1']Can you play games while running the test? I assume not, the xbox doesn't think that way...[/QUOTE]No, you cannot game while running Xbox Live Labs.
 
[quote name='Hakudoshi']@XP1
I have noticed very similar behavior in the speed as well. Based on just what I had observed in the earlier stages of the test my original estimate was around 17gb for the entire 6 hours. I think I can safely say that isn't the case.

My daily usage so far is:
Incoming: 4,422.18 MB
Outgoing: 137.87 MB

I haven't been doing anything all day other than mostly sitting here reading CAG and chatting on IM's so a good majority of that I expect to be from the 360 so far.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sometimes, the speed goes way down or pauses. It doesn't stay constant throughout the test, and yes, I agree that 17 GB sounds way too much based on current observations.
 
An interesting thing and rather funny as well is that Comcast states and I quote.

Currently, the median data usage by Comcast High-Speed Internet customers is approximately 4 - 6 GB each month (these numbers may vary on a monthly basis). This reflects typical residential use of the service for purposes such as sending and receiving e-mail, surfing the Internet, and watching streaming video.
Click to expand...

I would just like to say, Hah! Yeah right, who uses only 6gb a month? That makes zero sense. Unless quite literally the only thing you do is e-mail, and mild internet surfing.

So maybe this is some sort of plan Microsoft had to push data usage for all XBL users or something. I'm fairly confident that by the end of the 6 hours I will have easily reached the 6gb mark. I still wonder what data the 360 is receiving in the first place... I don't hear any HDD activity so I'm rather confused.
 
[quote name='flameofdoom666']My xbox is currently dead. Is it possible for me to do these tests with my gamertag on another console?[/QUOTE]

you rule
 
[quote name='Hakudoshi']I don't hear any HDD activity so I'm rather confused.[/QUOTE]Well, that's a good thing. My Xbox 360 (20 GB HDD) only has 200 MB free space left. I don't want Xbox Live Labs to take up more than the 4 MB it took to download it. :bomb:
 
[quote name='flameofdoom666']My xbox is currently dead. Is it possible for me to do these tests with my gamertag on another console?[/QUOTE]

Technically yes. If you do this on another console, avatar awards and achievements will carry over.
 
[quote name='Hakudoshi']An interesting thing and rather funny as well is that Comcast states and I quote.



I would just like to say, Hah! Yeah right, who uses only 6gb a month? That makes zero sense. Unless quite literally the only thing you do is e-mail, and mild internet surfing.

So maybe this is some sort of plan Microsoft had to push data usage for all XBL users or something. I'm fairly confident that by the end of the 6 hours I will have easily reached the 6gb mark. I still wonder what data the 360 is receiving in the first place... I don't hear any HDD activity so I'm rather confused.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Yeaaaaaah, streaming video and you're not going to go over over 6GB! Ugh.

I don't know what it is per day, but I have almost 2GB just of podcasts right now, and that's without the video podcasts I used to grab, and without game demos, GOG.com, video rentals, etc.
 
[quote name='ExplodingRat']Technically yes. If you do this on another console, avatar awards and achievements will carry over.[/QUOTE]

Sweet!
 
I have completed all of the tests in 6 hours.

Here is my bandwidth stat for today after all of the tests have been completed:
"March 10, 2011 (Incoming: 3185 MB / Outgoing: 275 MB)"

Note that the bandwidth from Xbox Live Labs would be a bit less than that total because it is the combined bandwidth stat for today's WAN activity on my network.
 
[quote name='Hakudoshi']Completed as of 10 minutes or so ago.

Total bandwidth used:
Incoming: 7,503.93 MB
Outgoing: 221.84 MB[/QUOTE]Mysterious difference from mine:
"March 10, 2011 (Incoming: 3185 MB / Outgoing: 275 MB)"

:whistle2:?
 
@XP1
Indeed there is quite a difference, my guess is maybe it has something to do with net speed? I still want to know what the data WAS in the first place. It's an interesting difference that's for sure, over double what you had...
 
[quote name='Hakudoshi']@XP1
Indeed there is quite a difference, my guess is maybe it has something to do with net speed? I still want to know what the data WAS in the first place. It's an interesting difference that's for sure, over double what you had...[/QUOTE]I only observed ~1.2 MB/s max for a few seconds, but most of the time it was either ~700 KB/s, 130 KB/s, 30 KB/s, or even idle. If you observed higher speeds than that, then I would suppose that it would be a difference in Internet connection speed.
 
[quote name='bosoxdanc']Does anyone know of a good bandwidth monitor outside of Tomato Firmware? My router is too new so I can't use Tomato. :([/QUOTE]Alternatively, you could use DD-WRT. Although the bandwidth monitoring in DD-WRT is more basic and less detailed than in Tomato, DD-WRT has more support on more hardware.
 
[quote name='XP1']Alternatively, you could use DD-WRT. Although the bandwidth monitoring in DD-WRT is more basic and less detailed than in Tomato, DD-WRT has more support on more hardware.[/QUOTE]

I ended up grabbing one caled NetStat live, but I have no clue how accurate it is. It showed no activity while I was streaming a Youtube video, which obviously uses bandwidth. Hmm...

Also, I'm about 40 minutes into the Lab tests and I've gotten nothing either. I torrented (legally, of course) and it showed that instantly though, even at 1 KB/s.

Edit: It's showing the overall, but not the per second data, which seems odd to me.
 
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The rewards are per gamertag btw. My gf is a pharm so I let it run 30 on her gt for the coat. I will probably leave it on for 6 on my gt though.
 
80 ms points=$1. so you're willing to take $1 for all the electricity you're using? lol...i'd rather have the avatar awards. I left it on going through lunch time until this afternoon and just watched some tv and took a nap. 6 hours went by quick, worth it to as i'm sure whatever it's for is a good cause ;)
 
[quote name='intoxicated662']80 ms points=$1. so you're willing to take $1 for all the electricity you're using? lol...i'd rather have the avatar awards. I left it on going through lunch time until this afternoon and just watched some tv and took a nap. 6 hours went by quick, worth it to as i'm sure whatever it's for is a good cause ;)[/QUOTE]
You're not getting anything of value right now, so a buck's more reasonable than expecting $5 or $10. A good cause would Folding@Home.
 
This makes me mad mainly because I can't use Netflix, ESPN or online first person shooting let alone whatever they're planning to do (IPTV I guess)! That's because I'm on satellite "broadband" which I wouldn't even call broadband. Eh the speeds are decent but it doesn't matter because they have a cap in place. Ironically called FAP, fair access policy, making sure everyone is tied down and nobody is messing up the whole network. Officially I have a rolling 30 day, not particularly at the end of the month, period not to go over 80% of our paid tier cap of 17 GBs. Gotta keep a posted note of what I've downloaded atm and also checking my bandwidth percentages daily.

It's either this or dial up where I live, Upstate New York! Internet TV is big over in Europe but I think the infrastructure for US isn't strong enough mainly due to unions and a scattered population.
 
[quote name='bosoxdanc']I ended up grabbing one caled NetStat live, but I have no clue how accurate it is. It showed no activity while I was streaming a Youtube video, which obviously uses bandwidth. Hmm...

Also, I'm about 40 minutes into the Lab tests and I've gotten nothing either. I torrented (legally, of course) and it showed that instantly though, even at 1 KB/s.

Edit: It's showing the overall, but not the per second data, which seems odd to me.[/QUOTE]Maybe that software just monitors your computer, not your other devices on the network.
 
My tests just finished. I had started them around 4:17 am Eastern. It appears mine only used about 34 MB down, 4 MB up.

Before starting, DD-WRT reported traffic as :

March 11, 2011 (Incoming: 2240 MB / Outgoing: 57 MB)

That's pretty much the demos and trailers for Beyond Good & Evil and Torchlight.

After finishing :

March 11, 2011 (Incoming: 2274 MB / Outgoing: 61 MB)

Two possible reasons : Microsoft isn't as interested in checking off-peak traffic or (more likely) a lot of people ran their tests overnight and their servers couldn't handle the load.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']This makes me mad mainly because I can't use Netflix, ESPN or online first person shooting let alone whatever they're planning to do (IPTV I guess)! That's because I'm on satellite "broadband" which I wouldn't even call broadband. Eh the speeds are decent but it doesn't matter because they have a cap in place. Ironically called FAP, fair access policy, making sure everyone is tied down and nobody is messing up the whole network. Officially I have a rolling 30 day, not particularly at the end of the month, period not to go over 80% of our paid tier cap of 17 GBs. Gotta keep a posted note of what I've downloaded atm and also checking my bandwidth percentages daily.

It's either this or dial up where I live, Upstate New York! Internet TV is big over in Europe but I think the infrastructure for US isn't strong enough mainly due to unions and a scattered population.[/QUOTE]

Geez that sounds like a pain in the ass, and I bet it's expensive too :(

I'm really lucky I can get DSL :)
 
avatar rewards are kinda weak...but at least the 6 hour one doesn't need to be continuous. (i.e. 6 hours total until March 27th)
 
did this last night while I laid down and played some ps3. Got my rewards this morning when I woke up, along with 3 0point achievements.
 
I'll grab the lab coat and maybe the brain helmet but 6 hours for a wig is pretty out of the question, sleep or no sleep. Woulda much prefered some MSP for the troubles, for MSP i would let it run for days.

tho 6 hours for 80 msp would be weak. perhapr 160 for 6 hours, so i can d/l a rock band or GH song.
 
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