define "mint condition"

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I send emails to Amazon sellers inquiring directly about the condition of whatever they sell, because I'm stupid enough to believe they will be honest with me.

I'm sitting here with a game, promised to be in practically mint shape, but the disc has clearly been resurfaced and the paper insert is warped ot holy hell on the back. I didn't pay enough to even warrant the shipping costs to return the thing, even so it's not worth the hassle because I don't want to pay double for a fucking Player's Choice ugly-ass yellow banded copy. So this is going to have to do for now untl I CAN afford a fucking DECENT copy of the god damned game!

It looks like either the shrink wrap at the factory was WAY too tight, or moisture damage. Not worth telling me when I ask. And since I can't afford a $100 laser printer for limited recreational use I can't just print my own replacements for damaged case inserts.

It's like when I bought Sonic Rivals for PSP. Promised "mint shape", I get a game that looks like a car ran over it. I attempt to send it back for a refund, it's returned to sender because the seller has recently switched PO box. I get the refund anyway because the seller doesn't want to mess with it any further.

Too bad these situations could be avoided if they would just be honest to begin with. And is it me or does every seller on Amazon lack a camera to send you pictures of their goods when you ask? Not like leaving feedback is worth a damn, I'd be surprised if anyone actually reads comments left for a seller as long as their percentage is high.

And too bad for me I fund these purchases with my debit card and not a credit card, otherwise it'd be a simple matter to refund the payment for "lack of satisfaction" with a phone call.
 
[quote name='Diosoth']I send emails to Amazon sellers inquiring directly about the condition of whatever they sell, because I'm stupid enough to believe they will be honest with me.

I'm sitting here with a game, promised to be in practically mint shape, but the disc has clearly been resurfaced and the paper insert is warped ot holy hell on the back. I didn't pay enough to even warrant the shipping costs to return the thing, even so it's not worth the hassle because I don't want to pay double for a fucking Player's Choice ugly-ass yellow banded copy. So this is going to have to do for now untl I CAN afford a fucking DECENT copy of the god damned game!

It looks like either the shrink wrap at the factory was WAY too tight, or moisture damage. Not worth telling me when I ask. And since I can't afford a $100 laser printer for limited recreational use I can't just print my own replacements for damaged case inserts.

It's like when I bought Sonic Rivals for PSP. Promised "mint shape", I get a game that looks like a car ran over it. I attempt to send it back for a refund, it's returned to sender because the seller has recently switched PO box. I get the refund anyway because the seller doesn't want to mess with it any further.

Too bad these situations could be avoided if they would just be honest to begin with. And is it me or does every seller on Amazon lack a camera to send you pictures of their goods when you ask? Not like leaving feedback is worth a damn, I'd be surprised if anyone actually reads comments left for a seller as long as their percentage is high.

And too bad for me I fund these purchases with my debit card and not a credit card, otherwise it'd be a simple matter to refund the payment for "lack of satisfaction" with a phone call.[/QUOTE]

If pictures are important enough, I'd reccomend just switching to Ebay. It's expected there, you'll have less issues than with Amazon sellers who aren't accustomed to it and either don't have cameras or don't want to bother (they can just wait for someone else to buy it.)

Aside from that- I avoid dealing with anyone who won't answer my questions, whatever they are. I'm sure I've missed some deals becuase of it, but I've largely avoided dissapointment in my online purchases. That's good enough for me.
 
This happens to me all the time, and it's happened to me 4 or 5 times on here.

Mint condition shouldn't be anything less than like new IMO. Mint is pretty much the best condition something can be in; at the very least, the disc should look brand new. Unfortunately, many people have lower standards and/or overstate the condition of their item, and most of the time they don't take into consideration the condition of the manual or cover art.

Best thing you can do is to set low standards OP.
 
Wait, you bought a used game? I thought that was against your pirate code? Ever heard of karma?

I would agree with DuelLadyS. If the condition is that important to you, don't do the deal unless you can get pictures. I have sold quite a few things on Amazon and have never had any requests for pictures, but I do my best to describe things accurately.
 
[quote name='Zipomatic2']To me, personally "Mint Condition" should be the same as brand spanking new, but without the shrinkwrap.[/QUOTE]

Ditto.

There are too many people who just throw the word "mint" around too often.
 
As others have said, "mint," to me, means it's just like brand-new, just without the wrapping. Anything even with the most minimal of damage should not be described as mint.
 
[quote name='yourlefthand']Wait, you bought a used game? I thought that was against your pirate code? Ever heard of karma?

I would agree with DuelLadyS. If the condition is that important to you, don't do the deal unless you can get pictures. I have sold quite a few things on Amazon and have never had any requests for pictures, but I do my best to describe things accurately.[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol:

I was about to say that myself. Every post from Diosoth that I've seen thus far has been 'screw the developers, I'm a pirate and proud of it'.

It got to the point it was getting as redundant as my GS hatred.:D

As for my opinion on the matter, mint condition is like everybody else has said. The item has to be like you just took off the shrinkwrap from a sealed copy. Otherwise, it's NOT 'mint'.
 
Echoing above: mint means practically brand new- no scuffs or scratches, but not resurfaced. Near mint I'd expect light light scratches, but again, not resurfaced.
 
Yeah I'd say mint condition means essentially new - no scratches on the disc, and no creases in paper inserts/manuals whatsoever. Give ebay a shot - I've only bought items with photo listings, and my experience has been pretty decent. Furthermore, many ebay sellers are receptive to questions and answer very promptly.
 
My definition:

1) Game disc has no scratches, marks, stickers, cracks, has not been resurfaced, etc.
2) Box art, instructions, and other inserts are included and have no folds, bends, creases, fading, writing, stains, etc.
3) Game case is perfect meaning no scratches, scuffs, marks, cracks, etc.

Anything less would be near-mint or less. But when it comes to buying used games, it isn't that big of a deal for me because I just want the game in my collection. Down the road, I might replace some of the instructions/box art/cases on a few things (especially the stuff I bought from GS/HV that has the stickers still on the cases or has generic box art) but, for now, as long as the game works, I'm happy.
 
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