Democrats Have Become Elitist, Question Wearing Symbols of Their Own Country?

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Biden talks Iraq, primaries, nominees
By MARK HAYWARD
Union Leader Staff

MANCHESTER — Sen. Joe Biden said Democrats received commitments from Senate leaders yesterday that the Senate Intelligence Committee will be able to examine intelligence matters involving the decision to attack Iraq.

The Delaware Democrat said the promises were made during the unexpected closed-door session that Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid forced on the Senate yesterday.

“They will go back now to the Intelligence Committee. ... So maybe we’ll get to the bottom of some of this now,” he said.

He spoke to reporters yesterday before a rally hosted by the New Hampshire building trades unions for Mayor Robert Baines.

Biden, who has presidential aspirations, drew about 125 guests to the event, held just one week before the city election.

He said it would be a mistake for New Hampshire to lose its first-in-the-nation primary slot. He said he would not automatically support sandwiching caucuses between the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary.

“It depends on who they pick and how, and whether or not New Hampshire buys into the process,” Biden said.

Biden addressed the crowd with a rousing, fist-clenching political speech. Biden said he’s been visiting states, trying to determine if anyone wants him to run for president.

“I’m not ready to ask for anybody’s help up here,” Biden said during his speech.

Biden said he will vote against Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito if he does not answer questions in Judiciary Committee hearings.

He said it is time to “end the fiction” that a judicial nominee should not discuss his views of the Constitution or the methodology used to rule on cases.

A nominee should have to answer whether a medical patient hooked up to a life-sustaining machine has the ability to demand he be disconnected, Biden said.

Biden campaigned in the New Hamsphire presidential primary in 1988, but bowed out early. He has visited the state since then, but said several times last night he’s been away for 18 years.

He told the heavily Democratic crowd that Democrats have become elitist. He noted that some Democrats have questioned why he wears an American flag on his lapel.

“We’ve become disconnected from where we grew up,” Biden said. “The Republicans, because of our distance, they have convinced a lot of people we ain’t one of them.”


No fucking shit. Really? You think treating voters and the general public as dupes, fools and ignorant hicks make you elitest? Say it ain't so Joe!

He said Republicans and neoconservatives are “very, very bright people” who have not altered their ideological direction.

“They mean to change this country,” he said.

In his remarks, Baines said he has stood shoulder-to-shoulder with unions for his six years as mayor. He said education, neighborhoods and senior services have improved under him.

And he lauded Manchester’s designation by America’s Promise as one of the top cities to raise children.

“That’s what it’s all about,” he said.

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Cant say I care.

To most of those who support Bush being a "real" American has come to mean being a good german.
 
As long as were on the level: your people are so dishonest and treat people with intellectual disdain to the degree that you rely on the consistency of symbols, rather than the spread of ideas, to get people to support you.

Because really, in the end, besides Adam Smith, who are the truly conservative thinkers? Ayn Rand?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Because really, in the end, besides Adam Smith, who are the truly conservative thinkers? Ayn Rand?[/QUOTE]

What does Conservative mean anymore?
 
If you want a simple ideological chracterization: Barry Goldwater.

The last person to act like Goldwater was Goldwater. Empty gestures carry you very far in Washington; haven't you read Machiavelli's The Prince?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If you want a simple ideological chracterization: Barry Goldwater.

The last person to act like Goldwater was Goldwater. Empty gestures carry you very far in Washington; haven't you read Machiavelli's The Prince?[/QUOTE]

The problem I have is that there are so many different characterizations of "conservative". We can use Eisenhower's definition and make "conservative" mean status quo. We can have the small government conservatives, or the big defense conservatives. The libertarian conservatives. The list goes on.

It's just that there are so many different versions of conservative that it seems harder and harder to pin a specific "conservative" idea.

Bush certainly bucks the trend, of course they just call him a Neo-conservative (if neo is a good term to mean non).

Maybe this isn't the best place to bring this up, but why is it that a lack of Business regulation goes hand in hand with a more scrutinzed police force (with current day Neo-Conservatives)? It would seem that increasing the police force is, in a sense, regulation of the people. Less regulation on business, more on people? Doesn't make sense to me.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If you want a simple ideological chracterization: Barry Goldwater.

The last person to act like Goldwater was Goldwater. Empty gestures carry you very far in Washington; haven't you read Machiavelli's The Prince?[/QUOTE]

Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Pure Goldwater.
 
WTF? Seriously, I listen to Rush today and **Surprise** PAD is posting on the same topic.

As for treating voters like dupes? Exactly how many terror alerts have we had post election? Or better yet, how about wearing gawd-damn flag pins and support the troops ribbons and then cutting funding for the VA. Any idiot can wrap themselves in symbols without backing it up with action. Then thinking that little cod-piece and pony show is all the hard work you need to do? That is the height of arrogance.

fucking dipshit.
 
[quote name='usickenme']WTF? Seriously, I listen to Rush today and **Surprise** PAD is posting on the same topic.

As for treating voters like dupes? Exactly how many terror alerts have we had post election? Or better yet, how about wearing gawd-damn flag pins and support the troops ribbons and then cutting funding for the VA. Any idiot can wrap themselves in symbols without backing it up with action. Then thinking that little cod-piece and pony show is all the hard work you need to do? That is the height of arrogance.

fucking dipshit.[/QUOTE]

I've listened to al franken mock comments limbaugh has made, and I've directly listened to commentators like hannity. It's very common for me to hear, later in the day or week, the exact same talking point and language come out of PAD. The same was true for scrubking, except he mimicked frontpagemag.com.
 
[quote name='camoor']It means voting agaist those darksided liburauls[/QUOTE]

Ironically, Liberalism was actually a counter to conservatism when the term was invented in the 1800s.
 
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