Destiny Discussion Thread - Fear The Moon Wizards on September 9th

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Mako1215 said:
Am the only one having issues with updates?

I start up my game ( Mind you I uninstalled, and installed it again last night )

Boots up, and goes to titles menu. I hit A. Goes to download updates, and fails.

I am in the process of reinstalling, and installing it again.
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Have you done a hard reset?

 
Over the holidays I kept downloading what seemed like the same 75MB patch over and over. I assume they weren't releasing nearly identical-sized updates while they were presumably on vacation. So there is something flaky going on with their updates. Mine weren't failing though.

Are we running Vault tonight or not? Someone who needs the achievement needs to organize it - I don't need to run it again ;). But I'm here if you need me - will have to post here or send me a PM on CAG to get my attention though.
 
io said:
Over the holidays I kept downloading what seemed like the same 75MB patch over and over. I assume they weren't releasing nearly identical-sized updates while they were presumably on vacation. So there is something flaky going on with their updates. Mine weren't failing though.

Are we running Vault tonight or not? Someone who needs the achievement needs to organize it - I don't need to run it again ;). But I'm here if you need me - will have to post here or send me a PM on CAG to get my attention though.
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Same issue here. I heard from my friend that once he cleared his cache, it stopped happening, but alas, I'm too lazy to redownload every patch again (unless it's different on the Xbone).

That laziness unfortunately also prevents me from helping you guys out with the Clan Achievement. I'd have to figure out about a dozen different passwords on the website because there isn't an in game option to change clans. Sorry =[ Good luck though.
 
Just picked this up after getting all but the perfect raider trophy. I have to say I am enjoying the game a lot more on my One looking for people to play with for weekly strikes/nightfalls and at some point raids. 

 
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gotdott said:
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1420926050061.jpg

Our first look at House of Wolves (why are all raid rocket launchers solar?!?!)
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Hmmm

Nothing crazy seems to stick out. Visually all the armors are just 'meh' to me. I was not intrigued by any fallen designs as well as their ships and other environments so I am curious to see how they pull the Raid off.

The Exotic Scout rifle with the David and Goliath rolls seems intriguing and I would like to try that out. All of the other exotics are just ho hum to me so far. Still no Exotic Legs for the Warlock too, lame. But yeah none of those armor abilities for the Exotics are sticking out. The adding a third jump would be cool if I didn't always use Bladedancer with Blink when using my Hunter.

Do we have more info at all on what the "Banks" are? I am assuming they are just new sub sections within the Vault so instead of everything non-armor and gun having to go into one spot, now they can be split. While this would be nice, I would before any of that, just want more Vault space for the Weapon category!!!

 
I just find it funny that the new strike boss will be a walker. I don't really seeing anything to retain my attention through April, considering we have all the time in the world (until Comet in September) to play the 2 hours of new content.

Watch Iron Banner be boots and gloves (again).

Actually I might play the new hardcore (no radar etc) PVP modes, but I might as well go back to Battlefield.

 
gotdott said:
I just find it funny that the new strike boss will be a walker

Actually I might play the new hardcore (no radar etc) PVP modes
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I am hoping they change it up somewhat and turn it into some sweet tricked out Walker that completely distinguishes itself against the others and with different tactics.

Doubt it... but hoping.

And yeah those new PvP modes sound interesting for sure.

 
gotdott said:
I just find it funny that the new strike boss will be a walker. I don't really seeing anything to retain my attention through April, considering we have all the time in the world (until Comet in September) to play the 2 hours of new content.

Watch Iron Banner be boots and gloves (again).

Actually I might play the new hardcore (no radar etc) PVP modes, but I might as well go back to Battlefield.
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Two hours! Please... They will make it so you need to reach rank 6 to max out Eric's Dad when he arrives in the tower. That should be about a month and a half worth of grinding. Then you can wear the same shader everybody else is.

And come on now.... they aren't going to create new assets just for a $20 dlc. That would take too much time and they only have three months.

 
Renegade Moose said:
Two hours! Please... They will make it so you need to reach rank 6 to max out Eric's Dad when he arrives in the tower. That should be about a month and a half worth of grinding. Then you can wear the same shader everybody else is.

And come on now.... they aren't going to create new assets just for a $20 dlc. That would take too much time and they only have three months.
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These are done already ;)

On that note, Oryx will probably be the big bad of "Comet"

 
Renegade Moose said:
Two hours! Please... They will make it so you need to reach rank 6 to max out Eric's Dad when he arrives in the tower. That should be about a month and a half worth of grinding. Then you can wear the same shader everybody else is.

And come on now.... they aren't going to create new assets just for a $20 dlc. That would take too much time and they only have three months.
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I figure the new Walker will have as much effort as the change from Wizard -> Omnigul had... aka not all that much haha

 
It's okay, they will give the walker a regenerating void shield and run it with arc burn, lightswitch, juggler - this will be a challenge like we have never seen before.

 
http://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Hot-Fix---01122015/en/News/News?aid=12485

Hotfix details are up.

Looks like the are nerfing Black Hammer : /

In regards to Iron Banner, are the weapons going to be treated the same where we can re-roll them? Because I kind of hate that as I wasted a crap ton of Motes of Light last time and ended up dismantling the weapon only for a few weapon parts. I would love a sweet level 32 damage handcannon with the same perks as Fatebringer of course haha doesn't even have to be Arc : P

But yeah also giving 32 Gloves but only 31 Boots. Seeing as the Raid Gloves are awesome how they generate extra orbs while in the Raid on top of the normal perks I am curious to see if these gloves would even be worth it.

 
BrolyB593 said:
http://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Hot-Fix---01122015/en/News/News?aid=12485

Hotfix details are up.

Looks like the are nerfing Black Hammer : /

In regards to Iron Banner, are the weapons going to be treated the same where we can re-roll them? Because I kind of hate that as I wasted a crap ton of Motes of Light last time and ended up dismantling the weapon only for a few weapon parts. I would love a sweet level 32 damage handcannon with the same perks as Fatebringer of course haha doesn't even have to be Arc : P

But yeah also giving 32 Gloves but only 31 Chest. Seeing as the Raid Gloves are awesome how they generate extra orbs while in the Raid on top of the normal perks I am curious to see if these gloves would even be worth it.
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ftfy

Gloves will be useful to those who don't raid and missed out on soloing (even though you can still solo with Titan/Hunter without the lantern physics)

And they are not nerfing the Black Hammer, I mentioned earlier that if you upgraded the Hive bonus damage perk it bugged out the precision perk so they are disabling it while looking into a fix.

 
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gotdott said:
And they are not nerfing the Black Hammer, I mentioned earlier that if you upgraded the Hive bonus damage perk it bugged out the precision perk so they are disabling it while looking into a fix.
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Ahhh I didn't catch that.

Is it that the White Nail sometimes doesn't actually recharge ammo like it should? I had that many times and just assumed it was my fault somehow for not getting it fast enough.

 
BrolyB593 said:
Ahhh I didn't catch that.

Is it that the White Nail sometimes doesn't actually recharge ammo like it should? I had that many times and just assumed it was my fault somehow for not getting it fast enough.
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Ya you do bonus damage to Hive majors but you no longer get the White Nail refill (from Hive)

I was using two Black Hammers (one with and one without the perk) in the meantime

 
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Also deathsinger is dropping the loots now so if you haven't done it you can get it before reset

Edit: and people are reporting that you can get radiant mats from your daily event package :O

Edit 2: some people are saying you can get mats from 1st chest again as well

 
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BrolyB593 said:
Is it that the White Nail sometimes doesn't actually recharge ammo like it should? I had that many times and just assumed it was my fault somehow for not getting it fast enough.
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Yeah, the problem is that when you score a critical against a hive enemy, you get two damage numbers: the yellow critical hit, and an additional white damage number for the bonus damage against hive. The white hit in between prevents the game from recognizing three yellow hits in a row.

 
gotdott said:
Also deathsinger is dropping the loots now so if you haven't done it you can get it before reset

Edit: and people are reporting that you can get radiant mats from your daily event package :O

Edit 2: some people are saying you can get mats from 1st chest again as well
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So the patch is live already?

If that is the case, do you guys want to get a group going this evening (before reset) to try to get that checkpoint and hit the Deathsinger 3 times (for alt chars)?

I'm hoping someone has a checkpoint past the second bridge at least. Or we can get one from DFG or something. Or if we have to we can play it through to that point (once, then trade the checkpoint around).
 
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io said:
So the patch is live already?

If that is the case, do guys want to get a group going this evening (before reset) to try to get that checkpoint and hit the Deathsinger 3 times (for alt chars)?

I'm hoping someone has a checkpoint past the second bridge at least. Or we can get one from DFG or something. Or if we have to we can play it through to that point.
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I have the post bridge checkpoint, but I don't know if I will be around.

Also have seen people talking about how she will drop nothing if you got first chest previously (since first chest was "moved" to deathsinger) but need to confirm this

 
io said:
So the patch is live already?

If that is the case, do guys want to get a group going this evening (before reset) to try to get that checkpoint and hit the Deathsinger 3 times (for alt chars)?

I'm hoping someone has a checkpoint past the second bridge at least. Or we can get one from DFG or something. Or if we have to we can play it through to that point.
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I definitely have that checkpoint because getting the 2nd chest was the last thing I did on all 3 characters this week. Is it definitely dropping rewards again?

 
gotdott said:
I have the post bridge checkpoint, but I don't know if I will be around.

Also have seen people talking about how she will drop nothing if you got first chest previously (since first chest was "moved" to deathsinger) but need to confirm this
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GLOCKGLOCK said:
I definitely have that checkpoint because getting the 2nd chest was the last thing I did on all 3 characters this week. Is it definitely dropping rewards again?
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I'd like to get that checkpoint from one of you before this evening. Then if any CAGs are around we can try to run it. I can't do anything else this evening IRL because there's some football game everyone where I live is obsessed over. I could care less since I'm not a fan of the local school ;).

In the mean time, I will keep looking into the Bungie forums to get the scoop on the chest/Deathsinnger drops.
 
io said:
I could care less since I'm not a fan of the local school ;).
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*couldn't care less

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Anyway, moving on...

People are just as confused over there about the reset rewards but it seems this is the most likely:

1) You can get the 2 mats from the first chest again
2) You will not get Deathsinger rewards if you did the first chest already.

The only opening there for us is if the people who did not get Deathsinger rewards ALSO did the first chest post-patch and that somehow messed it up. I haven't seen anyone confirm that they got all the checkpoints/rewards earlier and then just tried the Deathsinger but not the first chest.

However, it seems likely that this is what is happening:

1) First chest reward was moved to Deathsinger so if you got the first chest earlier in the week you won't get anything from Deathsinger.
2) There is a new chest in the first section and since that is brand new to everyone you can get it right now no matter what you did earlier in the week.

So barring any new info, I guess we can all solo that first chest (or do it in groups to make it easier if we see each other online) and at least get the 6 mats (for 3 chars).
 
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io said:
I'd like to get that checkpoint from one of you before this evening. Then if any CAGs are around we can try to run it. I can't do anything else this evening IRL because there's some football game everyone where I live is obsessed over. I could care less since I'm not a fan of the local school ;).

In the mean time, I will keep looking into the Bungie forums to get the scoop on the chest/Deathsinnger drops.
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Just message me and I can let you have the checkpoint. I'm not sure I want to play tonight or not, especially if I have to do 3 full raids tomorrow.

I bought the Last Word and that weapon is really sweet, now I know why so many people talked about it in the past. That is about the only reason I played over the weekend.

What does the loot table look like now:

1st Chest - Mats only

1st Bridge - Gloves/Mats

2nd Bridge - Boots/Chest/Mats

2nd Chest - Mats only

Deathsinger - Exotic/Class Item/Mats

Crota - Weapons/Helmet/Ships/Mats (Emblem & Shader first time only)

I might just do Crota only this week to see if I get a new weapon or a helmet to keep me insterested. Not doing Iron Banner. Don't really want to farm for Mats. I'm still playing daily for some reason, but very little outside of the stuff that resets. This game has done a horrible job offering anything outside of this limited set of missions & strikes and knowing that any weapons/armor I get will be obsolete in a couple months doesn't really motivate me to grind much anymore.

 
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GLOCKGLOCK said:
knowing that any weapons/armor I get will be obsolete in a couple months doesn't really motivate me to grind much anymore.
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I still use Fatebringer all the time. I wouldn't say obsolete because having them makes the push for the new ones that much easier.

I totally get where you are coming from, but that is just the nature of expansions

 
I made a few additions:
 
1st Chest - Mats only
1st Bridge - Gloves/Mats/very low chance for boots/chest
2nd Bridge - Boots/Chest/Mats/very low chance for gloves
2nd Chest - Mats only
Deathsinger - Exotic/Class Item/Mats/Armor
Crota - Exotic/Weapons/Helmet/Ships/Mats (Emblem & Shader first time only)

The Armor at Deathsinger was in the original update notes but not mentioned in the actual patch notes so we'll see. The very low chance of "opposite" armor rewards was from someone who kept track of a rewards from a bunch of runs for several people.
 
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I made a few additions:
 
1st Chest - Mats only
1st Bridge - Gloves/Mats/very low chance for boots/chest
2nd Bridge - Boots/Chest/Mats/very low chance for boots
2nd Chest - Mats only
Deathsinger - Exotic/Class Item/Mats/Armor
Crota - Exotic/Weapons/Helmet/Ships/Mats (Emblem & Shader first time only)

The Armor at Deathsinger was in the original update notes but not mentioned in the actual patch notes so we'll see. The very low chance of "opposite" armor rewards was from someone who kept track of a rewards from a bunch of runs for several people.
 
io said:
I made a few additions:

1st Chest - Mats only
1st Bridge - Gloves/Mats/very low chance for boots/chest
2nd Bridge - Boots/Chest/Mats/very low chance for boots
2nd Chest - Mats only
Deathsinger - Exotic/Class Item/Mats/Armor
Crota - Exotic/Weapons/Helmet/Ships/Mats (Emblem & Shader first time only)

The Armor at Deathsinger was in the original update notes but not mentioned in the actual patch notes so we'll see. The very low chance of "opposite" armor rewards was from someone who kept track of a rewards from a bunch of runs for several people.
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Wat

 
^ Nice - misquoting me to make me look bad ;).

gotdott said:
Vision of Confluence is still the most used primary so that tells you something
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I went back to using that in my Roc strikes last night because I was getting a little tired of pulling the trigger for each shot for Fatebringer (plus I have some sort of neck/disc/nerve thing going on and I think all this Destiny playing is aggravating it).

It is nice, but Fatebringer still blows it away ;).

In any case, yeah, both of those "old" guns are still really good. Will they be when House of Wolves comes out? Probably not - but hopefully by then I'll have the Crota hard mode primaries.

Just took a look at that House of Wolves jpeg you posted gotdott. Is the March 10th release confirmed? That almost seems too soon. We won't have that much time with Hard more Crota. I'm guessing those "Thanatos" ships are the Raid ones? They are in a separate box for some reason. And also, it seems like there is an excessive amount on non-Raid gear, but whatever...
 
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gotdott said:
Vision of Confluence is still the most used primary so that tells you something
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Yea, the Strangers Rifle is #2 on that list so I'm not sure what to make of that data. There are plenty of blues on there that people are still using too. I guess noobs that don't do the raid/weekly/nightfall? I wonder if some people that pick up and play this game even know about Xur or what to use strange coins for? Do people buy this game and only play crucible like in CoD?

The raid weapons still hold their own despite the lower damage output due to the perks and solar/arc/void damage. VoC definitely due to the Full auto perk and Fatebringer for the exploding headshots.

I guess I meant more the raid armor and exotics go obsolete quickly, but once the new raid weapons come out in hard mode...

I played 500+ hours of this game so I guess it was inevitable that it would get stale for me. I am playing Defiance on 360 now because the achievement group I play with decided they wanted to do that game next. Just what I needed, another MMO FPS timesink....

 
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GLOCKGLOCK said:
Yea, the Strangers Rifle is #2 on that list so I'm not sure what to make of that data. There are plenty of blues on there that people are still using too. I guess noobs that don't do the raid/weekly/nightfall? I wonder if some people that pick up and play this game even know about Xur or what to use strange coins for? Do people buy this game and only play crucible like in CoD?

The raid weapons still hold their own despite the lower damage output due to the perks and solar/arc/void damage. VoC definitely due to the Full auto perk and Fatebringer for the exploding headshots.

I guess I meant more the raid armor and exotics go obsolete quickly, but once the new raid weapons come out in hard mode...

I played 500+ hours of this game so I guess it was inevitable that it would get stale for me. I am playing Defiance on 360 now because the achievement group I play with decided they wanted to do that game next. Just what I needed, another MMO FPS timesink....
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The list seems weird but you have to consider all of the holiday noobs and from the last month ;)

Raid armor will definitely go obsolete, but I feel like many exotics will remain relevant because imo most of the new exotic perks just aren't that amazing (with a few exceptions like Obsidian Mind)

 
BrolyB593 said:
Eh, I forgot that this stuff was leaked a while ago.

Handcannon just looks 'meh'

http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/437329200

The Scout Rifle seems like what I will be wanting most, seems pretty solid for PvP

http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/4252504452
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Yep Handcannon is meh! :nottalking: So spoiled by Firefly on the Fatebringer. Now if the new HC had Firefly along with that Zen Moment perk... then we'd be talking!

And I agree, the scout seems like the best primary from hard raid.

On a side note: was hoping the patch wouldn't go live till tomorrow morning. Was going to cheese past the bridge to Deathsinger so I could get everything else done. I'm 14.5 on my Titan. So with a bit of luck, maybe get the nightfall and a raid in this week. My friends may have to carry my ass though. ;)

 
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Wait, I though the Hand Cannon had the "make things explode like a cursed thrall" perk? What weapon has that then?

Edit: Damn, that is Necrochasm.. Sigh - I wonder how hard it will be to get a hold of that?

"Target Mark" on the scout rifle is interesting. But no auto-fire - that's too bad. After seeing these, I really wish they would buff the VoG weapons to make them 331...

I may have to use the pulse rifle this time (it has auto-fire):

http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/868574327

And just to be complete, here's the auto rifle:

http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/4144666151

It doesn't have any single great perk, though it does have the +2 agility and a new one: "Lich Bane: Projectles have a chance to disorient Hive Wizards". That's nice and all but a little too enemy-specific.

But of course all of these will be useful for future Nightfalls:

Handcannon: Void
Pulse, Scout: Arc
Auto: Solar
 
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Seems that most exotic Armors are just there to give you the ability to choose two customizations on your abilities or lengthen the timing of them, which is what was expected in the "armor showcase" previews from IGN back when the game was going to be released. The only one that I can think off the top of my head that doesn't is Obsidian Mind, which makes it incredibly OP in that aspect alone.

With the raid Armors at least, I'm finding myself switching constantly to get the benefits for each enemy. Interesting and in line with what was stated by Bungie employees pre-release, but ultimately irrelevant once the level boosts move forward.

What's the timing on hard Crota again? And what do the new exotic weapons have as bonuses? I would check myself but I can't until I get home.

EDIT: Thanks Io. Is target mark basically the "Recon" perk from COD?
 
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Crazyglitcher said:
What's the timing on hard Crota again? And what do the new exotic weapons have as bonuses? I would check myself but I can't until I get home.

EDIT: Thanks Io. Is target mark basically the "Recon" perk from COD?
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I think in a week or two we can expect Hard Mode, but they haven't announced a date yet. I'm guessing two weeks so they can let us beta test the latest patch for another week and then make further adjustments based on the glitches/new cheeses found ;).

I don't know anything about CoD, but "Target Mark" says it highlights enemies you damage.
 
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My money is on the 27th for Hard Raid.

And in regards to the Recon comparison, I am hoping it actually highlights their actual character and not just on the minimap like Recon does. The minimap already displays everyone so that would be a silly perk. I picture it like they are highlighted so even through walls you can see like oh hey someone is around that corner directly kind of deal.

 
^ I figure since that character highlight method (through walls) is already in the game, that is what the perk is.

Back to the chest reset. I scoured bungie.net and reddit and it seems pretty much confirmed that the chest at the beginning is a new one, so anyone can get that for the 2 mats it will have (and nothing else). If you got the original first chest earlier in the week, though, you will not get anything at the Deathsinger.

So that makes it easy at least - will run through that first part with my 3 characters to get the 6 mats. I'll be on some time this evening if anyone wants to make it a group effort - it is still a little easier that way as you can split up the thralls and take them down and get to the 3rd/4th chest locations without too much trouble.

Also, getting radiants mats from the public event was a one-time glitch that only happened if you had an event package you hadn't picked up yet when the patch went live. So I'm out of luck on that. I got one last night that turned into a strange coin. I always redeem them immediately.
 
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^^^NM. According to Reddit, Deathsinger won't drop anything if you already got the first chest, however you can get mats from the first chest again.
 
BrolyB593 said:
My money is on the 27th for Hard Raid.

And in regards to the Recon comparison, I am hoping it actually highlights their actual character and not just on the minimap like Recon does. The minimap already displays everyone so that would be a silly perk. I picture it like they are highlighted so even through walls you can see like oh hey someone is around that corner directly kind of deal.
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My bad. I meant the new "Recon" in Ghosts and maybe Advanced Warfare. What was it again? Oracle or something. Appropriate lol. But good to hear that it's similar. Wonder how long the highlight will last/will teammates be able to see them too? PVP is going to get interesting.
 
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