Dick Cheney "vice president for torture"

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A former CIA director has claimed that torture is condoned and even approved by the Bush government.

The devastating accusations have been made by Admiral Stansfield Turner who labelled Dick Cheney "a vice president for torture".

He said: "We have crossed the line into dangerous territory".

The American Senate says torture should be banned - whatever the justification. But President Bush has threatened to veto their ruling.

The former spymaster claims President Bush is not telling the truth when he says that torture is not a method used by the US.

Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him".

On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture.

"He condones torture, what else is he?".

Admiral Turner claims the secret CIA prisons used for torture are known as 'black sites', terror suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They are flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft to countries where there are secret interrogation centres, operating outside any country's jurisdiction.

No one will confirm their locations, but there are several possibilities: The Mihail-Kogalniceanu military airbase in Romania is believed by many to be one such facility.

Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture in Vietnam.

He said torturing to get information was immoral, was not effective and encouraged potential enemies to do the same to Americans.

Both Mr Bush and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have repeatedly stated that torture by US forces is not condoned.
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http://www.itv.com/news/index_1447362.html

Also, here's another former CIA officer denouncing torture

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/3469295.html
 
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There is some justification for torture, I think. If they have important knowledge about an imminent attack on the US (I think this is Cheney's motivation), and torture was the quickest and most efficient way to get it out of them, I would support it on the grounds that the ends justify the means.
 
[quote name='Mike23']There is some justification for torture, I think. If they have important knowledge about an imminent attack on the US (I think this is Cheney's motivation), and torture was the quickest and most efficient way to get it out of them, I would support it on the grounds that the ends justify the means.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Machiavelli, but this isn't about imminent danger. It's about conducting informational fishing expeditions by flying suspected terrorists and criminals to countries with poor human rights records and torturing these suspects.
 
I think this country has shown it will use torture for things other than imminent danger. If he really wanted that he could, instead of flat out opposing the ban on torture, try to have an exception added to the bill for immediate danger, immediate threat to civilian populations etc. Again though, the whole point is the u.s. has shown, under the current state, that it will not restrict its use to immediate threats.
 
No Geneva Convention Accords apply to terrorists.

Make them into dog food slowly from the ankles up for all I care. Personally I'd really support selectively farming those breeds of man eating pigs and condition them to eat human flesh like they did on Hannibal. I can't imagine anything more horrifying to a Muslim than being strapped to the front of a forklift and being threatened with lowering him/her into a pit with carnivorous pigs.

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