Dog kills child, stupid parent should be blamed

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/12/fataldog.mauling.ap/index.html

Here's the gist of this story in case you're too lazy to click on it. Basically, this family owned two pit bulls, a male and a female. The male was agitated and in heat. The woman was scared that the pit bull might harm her son while she went to perform errands. What's this genius do? She locks the 12-year old in the basement, also putting a shovel on the door to keep him in there. So, the kid gets out and pit bull mauls and kills him.

Here's where the ranting begins. First off, if you're worried about the potential danger you're putting your child in leaving him alone with the dog, you do one of two things:

1. Put the dog in the basement.
2. Take your kid with you on the errands.

By putting your child in the basement and bracing the door with a shovel what do expect the kid to do if there's a fire down there? Generally speaking, windows in basements don't allow much room for entry or escape. Now, the child is dead, and the mother's response is this:

"And I told him: 'Stay down there until I come back.' Typical Nicky, he wouldn't listen to me."

She's blaming her kid for her own stupidity! Most kids won't stay in a room they're locked inside of. This woman should be charged for something, whether it's negligence or the inability to properly care for a child. If she could be charged for sheer stupidity, they should charge her for that too. Her next comment is a real winner too:

"It's Nicky's time to go," she said in the interview. "When you're born you're destined to go and this was his time.

Right, because a 12-year old is always approaching their time. Would this kid even have a chance even if he made it to 13? It's amazing that with a parent in the house with the IQ equal to a rock he made it as far as he did.

Then, since she obviously wasn't smart enough to raise a dog either, the female pit bull is being put down (the male that attacked was shot by police). As a dog owner, I know full good and well that dogs are not aggressive, not even pit bulls. They're raised that way, and in this woman's household, I'm not surprised.

And remember everybody… it's always the video games fault.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Why weren't the dogs spayed and neutered?[/QUOTE]

Considering the woman's intelligence, do you REALLY have to ask that question? She doesn't strike me as the responsible type.:lol:
 
I wonder if she'll turn out to be one of those total nutjob mothers who throw Birthday parties at the gravesite every year, complete with cake and streamers and noise-makers...
 
[quote name='Ledhed']I wonder if she'll turn out to be one of those total nutjob mothers who throw Birthday parties at the gravesite every year, complete with cake and streamers and noise-makers...[/QUOTE]

have you actually witnessed that before?
 
The problem should be making it harder for a person to own a pit bulls. For example it should be the owner's responsibility to make sure no one gets hurt. The problem with pit bull is that if you are attack by one, you will be in must worst condition than attack from most type of dogs.
 
[quote name='onetrackmind']have you actually witnessed that before?[/QUOTE]

My friend used to live literally right next to a graveyard. The answer to your question is: more times than I care to recall.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']My friend used to live literally right next to a graveyard. The answer to your question is: more times than I care to recall.[/QUOTE]

wow thats pretty fucked up...
 
Somewhat off-topic, but OTM sparked some memories.

My favorite funeral faux pas was seeing a funeral take place, heads lowered and the preacher reading from the Bible, with a backhoe not 20 yards away digging a grave. It was so painful and hilarious to watch the reception try to ignore the unbelievably loud machinery just a stone's throw away.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']Somewhat off-topic, but OTM sparked some memories.

My favorite funeral faux pas was seeing a funeral take place, heads lowered and the preacher reading from the Bible, with a backhoe not 20 yards away digging a grave. It was so painful and hilarious to watch the reception try to ignore the unbelievably loud machinery just a stone's throw away.[/QUOTE]

:rofl: man i feel like an asshole laughing about that but thats awful
 
[quote name='onetrackmind']:rofl: man i feel like an asshole laughing about that but thats awful[/QUOTE]

So did we, but it really is funny. Just a "glad that wasn't me" kinda funny.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']So did we, but it really is funny. Just a "glad that wasn't me" kinda funny.[/QUOTE]

i mean you'd think the guy in the backhoe would wait 20 minutes until after they finished up. I'd feel like such a prick doing that.
 
[quote name='onetrackmind']i mean you'd think the guy in the backhoe would wait 20 minutes until after they finished up. I'd feel like such a prick doing that.[/QUOTE]

Every part of me wanted to jump the fence and run to the guy on the backhoe to see if he was aware of the precedings taking place. But, I was laughing too hard.

But that's what makes it so funny. Was the guy simply unaware? Or, did he just not care, which also suggests that this wasn't the first or last time this may have happened? Did the people at the funeral not care? Were they told head of time that there may be loud equipment operating during their precedings? So many levels to it.

... Wow, sorry folks. Back to crazy dog woman...
 
[quote name='Ledhed']Every part of me wanted to jump the fence and run to the guy on the backhoe to see if he was aware of the precedings taking place. But, I was laughing too hard.

But that's what makes it so funny. Was the guy simply unaware? Or, did he just not care, which also suggests that this wasn't the first or last time this may have happened? Did the people at the funeral not care? Were they told head of time that there may be loud equipment operating during their precedings? So many levels to it.

... Wow, sorry folks. Back to crazy dog woman...[/QUOTE]

If you really wanted to make things hardcore you should have jumped in the wagon and tear through the ceremtary and started doing donuts right next to the ceremony. Ledhed + Escort Wagon + Donuts + Backhoe digging grave + Funeral = HARD fuckING CORE!
 
[quote name='Ledhed']But that's what makes it so funny. Was the guy simply unaware? Or, did he just not care, which also suggests that this wasn't the first or last time this may have happened? Did the people at the funeral not care? Were they told head of time that there may be loud equipment operating during their precedings? So many levels to it.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the guy had gotten in trouble before for respectfully not doing his work. Or maybe he sees so many of those things that he simply does not give a fuck. :lol:
 
[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']Or maybe he sees so many of those things that he simply does not give a fuck. :lol:[/QUOTE]

That's the most logical explanation, frankly.

Also, we used to see alot of grave-diggers, and it wasn't always done with a backhoe. Did the guy break it out specifically for this special occasion?
 
[quote name='Ledhed']That's the most logical explanation, frankly.

Also, we used to see alot of grave-diggers, and it wasn't always done with a backhoe. Did the guy break it out specifically for this special occasion?[/QUOTE]


maybe he was digging up the remains of Jimmy Hoffa
 
[quote name='Ledhed']That's the most logical explanation, frankly.

Also, we used to see alot of grave-diggers, and it wasn't always done with a backhoe. Did the guy break it out specifically for this special occasion?[/QUOTE]

Reminds me of Garden State, specifically the "We'll probably head over there right after we bury your mom" line.
 
[quote name='gamereviewgod']"It's Nicky's time to go," she said in the interview. "When you're born you're destined to go and this was his time.

[/QUOTE]


When is it going to be her time to go? Like if we go find her and throw her off a bridge was that destiny?
 
[quote name='gamereviewgod']Here's the gist of this story in case you're too lazy to click on it. Basically, this family owned two pit bulls, a male and a female. The male was agitated and in heat. The woman was scared that the pit bull might harm her son while she went to perform errands. What's this genius do? She locks the 12-year old in the basement, also putting a shovel on the door to keep him in there. So, the kid gets out and pit bull mauls and kills him.[/QUOTE]

Getting back to the actual story...

This whole thing makes absolutely no sense to me. I find it completely impossible to believe. My own version of events: the parents were extremely abusive people, and kept their kid locked in the basement to prevent him from escaping (most likely he pretty much lived down there.) The dogs were most likely trained to keep him from getting out. The kid made an escape attempt, the dogs went a bit too far to prevent him from getting away, and here we are.

Possibility number 2 is that the kid was killed by his parents (possibly accidentaly, possible on purpose) and they got the dog to maul the dead kid to hide the evidence of their involvement.

Either way, I'm willing to bet at this point that there's a whole lot more to the story than has come out. Look for more news stories on this case in the future...
 
[quote name='Drocket']Getting back to the actual story...

This whole thing makes absolutely no sense to me. I find it completely impossible to believe. My own version of events: the parents were extremely abusive people, and kept their kid locked in the basement to prevent him from escaping (most likely he pretty much lived down there.) The dogs were most likely trained to keep him from getting out. The kid made an escape attempt, the dogs went a bit too far to prevent him from getting away, and here we are.

Possibility number 2 is that the kid was killed by his parents (possibly accidentaly, possible on purpose) and they got the dog to maul the dead kid to hide the evidence of their involvement.

Either way, I'm willing to bet at this point that there's a whole lot more to the story than has come out. Look for more news stories on this case in the future...[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be suprised if the dogs were trained to be aggressive/guard dogs or something on that idea. Pitbulls often aren't treated very well, which is the reason for the high attack rate. The kid might also have had a history of antagonizing the dogs like kicking them etc.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I wouldn't be suprised if the dogs were trained to be aggressive/guard dogs or something on that idea. Pitbulls often aren't treated very well, which is the reason for the high attack rate. The kid might also have had a history of antagonizing the dogs like kicking them etc.[/QUOTE]


Or he could of done nothing to the dogs. Who knows? All we know is that the parents are idiots.
 
[quote name='dmpolska']Or he could of done nothing to the dogs. Who knows? All we know is that the parents are idiots.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. They should be charged with manslaughter and negligence and the dogs should be immediately destroyed.
 
[quote name='dmpolska']Or he could of done nothing to the dogs. Who knows? All we know is that the parents are idiots.[/QUOTE]

The people I know who've been attacked or bit by dogs were either in a place they shouldn't be (ie. wandered into a neighbors yard, broke into someones house etc.), or had done something to the dog.

But any charge against the parents, unless there's more to the story that police now, would be baseless. Maybe the dog growled or something when they got near the female dog, who's gonna do anything with a dog for that? They just try to stay away from doing those things if it's temporary, or try to fix the problem. No one really thinks it's gonna kill someone or it's dangerous unless it had shown actual aggression (which they said it hadn't). Seriously, no one who thinks anything of their pet is gonna kill it just cause it growled once or twice, they try to fix it or live with the problem. Besides, it's a little kid, it has to at least be in the realm of possibility that the kid did something to the dog to agitate it, it's not like a kid hitting, kicking, scaring etc. a dog is strange.

I used to have a dog that was abused by it's former owner (it was a golden retriever). When we first got it, if someone was yelling and then went to touch him he'd bite, hard sometimes. My father found out the hard way once and tried to get us to get rid of him (to no avail), even though me and my mother warned him. He was the sweetest dog and got along with everyone, family, friends, strangers etc., very good disposition. It too about 3 or 4 years before he stopped doing that. Obviously this is much worse, but it does suggest that this could have been unexpected, or simply a reaction to what was done.
 
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