Dumb Democrats and Landmines

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I'm bored and I figured I'll point out another dumb left topic...


Bush Administration Bans Some Land Mines
Wed Jan 5, 2:19 PM ET White House - AP
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is banning land mines that cannot be located with metal detectors, a move designed to set an example to other nations and to protect mine hunters.

"We hope to inspire other countries to follow," said Lincoln P. Bloomfield Jr., assistant Secretary of State for political-military affairs.

Bloomfield said in an interview Tuesday that he did not think U.S. land mines were causing any harm and that the only ones remaining were from the 1960s.

Last Feburary, the Bush administration said it intends to stop using land mines that are not timed to self-destruct to prevent harm to civilians.

However, the United States has declined to join the 150 nations that have signed an anti-land mine treaty, which bans all anti-personnel mines. The treaty permits land mines designed to destroy vehicles, including mines that are not detectable, officials said.

The Bush administration has gone farther by banning land mines that are designed to hurt people and which do not self-destruct.

"De-miners must be able to clean out the battlefields," Bloomfield said in explaining the latest move. To be detectable mines must contain a certain level of iron content, he said.

"I don't think U.S. mines are really causing harm to the world, but we hope the example we are setting will be followed," he said.

Sen. Patrick V. Leahy, D-Vt., who far years has pressed for the outlawing of all land mines, called the move "a positive step, but a small one."

"No country, including ours, should continue using land mines, which indiscriminately kill or main thousands of innocent people every year, including our own troops," he said in a statement.
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We would ban ALL landmines but we can't, there is this little "war" that no one seems to remember that never really ended called the Korean War.

We can't ban landmines, that's the only thin stopping the north from invading the south.
 
[quote name='David85']I'm bored and I figured I'll point out another dumb left topic...


Bush Administration Bans Some Land Mines
Wed Jan 5, 2:19 PM ET White House - AP
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is banning land mines that cannot be located with metal detectors, a move designed to set an example to other nations and to protect mine hunters.

"We hope to inspire other countries to follow," said Lincoln P. Bloomfield Jr., assistant Secretary of State for political-military affairs.

Bloomfield said in an interview Tuesday that he did not think U.S. land mines were causing any harm and that the only ones remaining were from the 1960s.

Last Feburary, the Bush administration said it intends to stop using land mines that are not timed to self-destruct to prevent harm to civilians.

However, the United States has declined to join the 150 nations that have signed an anti-land mine treaty, which bans all anti-personnel mines. The treaty permits land mines designed to destroy vehicles, including mines that are not detectable, officials said.

The Bush administration has gone farther by banning land mines that are designed to hurt people and which do not self-destruct.

"De-miners must be able to clean out the battlefields," Bloomfield said in explaining the latest move. To be detectable mines must contain a certain level of iron content, he said.

"I don't think U.S. mines are really causing harm to the world, but we hope the example we are setting will be followed," he said.

Sen. Patrick V. Leahy, D-Vt., who far years has pressed for the outlawing of all land mines, called the move "a positive step, but a small one."

"No country, including ours, should continue using land mines, which indiscriminately kill or main thousands of innocent people every year, including our own troops," he said in a statement.
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We would ban ALL landmines but we can't, there is this little "war" that no one seems to remember that never really ended called the Korean War.

We can't ban landmines, that's the only thin stopping the north from invading the south.[/quote]

I think I'm missing the dumb part. Not sure if you're joking or not, but I think u.s. military power being behind the south is doing much more to stop an invasion than landmines.
 
Why would you want to ban jus tthe ones that cant be detected with metal detectors? Wouldnt you want to keep those?
 
The goal of landmines is usually less about hurting the enemy (because landmines are rarely powerful or numberous enough to do meaningful damage to an enemy army on the march), but to slow them down. If they force the enemy to travel an half-a-mile-per-hour because they have to scan the road every step of the way, they've done their job.

If you make them undetectable, you run the risk of them doing as much or more damage to you as the enemy. After all, you probably plan to win the war someday, and at that point, it would be nice to not have landmines dotting the countryside...
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='David85']I'm bored and I figured I'll point out another dumb left topic...


Bush Administration Bans Some Land Mines
Wed Jan 5, 2:19 PM ET White House - AP
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is banning land mines that cannot be located with metal detectors, a move designed to set an example to other nations and to protect mine hunters.

"We hope to inspire other countries to follow," said Lincoln P. Bloomfield Jr., assistant Secretary of State for political-military affairs.

Bloomfield said in an interview Tuesday that he did not think U.S. land mines were causing any harm and that the only ones remaining were from the 1960s.

Last Feburary, the Bush administration said it intends to stop using land mines that are not timed to self-destruct to prevent harm to civilians.

However, the United States has declined to join the 150 nations that have signed an anti-land mine treaty, which bans all anti-personnel mines. The treaty permits land mines designed to destroy vehicles, including mines that are not detectable, officials said.

The Bush administration has gone farther by banning land mines that are designed to hurt people and which do not self-destruct.

"De-miners must be able to clean out the battlefields," Bloomfield said in explaining the latest move. To be detectable mines must contain a certain level of iron content, he said.

"I don't think U.S. mines are really causing harm to the world, but we hope the example we are setting will be followed," he said.

Sen. Patrick V. Leahy, D-Vt., who far years has pressed for the outlawing of all land mines, called the move "a positive step, but a small one."

"No country, including ours, should continue using land mines, which indiscriminately kill or main thousands of innocent people every year, including our own troops," he said in a statement.
Click to expand...


We would ban ALL landmines but we can't, there is this little "war" that no one seems to remember that never really ended called the Korean War.

We can't ban landmines, that's the only thin stopping the north from invading the south.[/quote]

I think I'm missing the dumb part. Not sure if you're joking or not, but I think u.s. military power being behind the south is doing much more to stop an invasion than landmines.[/quote]


Umm... no, the troops are doing anything.

North Korea has one of the biggerest armies in the world, if there were no landminds 1 million North Korean troops would head south, 36,000 troops won't stop them.

We need the landmines, plus they aren't hurting anyone like in 3rd world countries.
 
[quote name='David85']We need the landmines, plus they aren't hurting anyone like in 3rd world countries.[/quote]
There may not be that many there NOW, but they know that we can get them there. You think they have such a short foresight that they won't realize that invading will get them their asses kicked a week down the road?
 
Yes I do. Any military planner sees that.

We never won the first war, were under a cease fire. Without those landminds there they would invade in a heartbeat and he's a news flash, we can't get there that fast. Took months for both Iraqi wars, plus where are you going to get the troops? Out of your ass? Or maybe a draft? We don't have enough troops in Iraq nevermind kighting a bigger war in the Koreas.

So frankly, just to piss people off, we should fit in another million landmines between the Koreas, so they get the hint.
 
The "we should put more mines" is a joke.

But we do not have enough troops to fit another war there, they would have to do a draft, and I much rather have a million landmines, that aren't hurting anyone, then continueing a war there.
 
[quote name='David85']
Umm... no, the troops are doing anything.

North Korea has one of the biggerest armies in the world, if there were no landminds 1 million North Korean troops would head south, 36,000 troops won't stop them.

We need the landmines, plus they aren't hurting anyone like in 3rd world countries.[/quote]

We don't need the land mines. The purpose of those 36,000 troops is so that if N Korea ever comes down American lives will be lost and we will throw everything we have at them, the land mines aren't nessesary since the purpose of those troops has always to been to be the meat at the end of the stick.

The reason we don't ban landmines is because we are one of the worlds largest producers of them. We've made a killing on them.
 
Oh my god...

Do you people really think that 36,000 troops are going to stop at least a million North Korea troops?

We didn't win in the 50s, and we wouldn't win now, unless we nuke them, which is always nice.

Let's ban landmines that aren't hurting anyone in Korea, so we would have to go to war with a crazy country with nukes and kill thousands and thousands of troops.

I guess my "dumb democrats" title is true....
 
And landmines are going to stop a missile how, exactly? Do you think that North Korea, if they decided to invade South Korea, would do it by *walking* over the border? Come on. The only thing they *could* do, because their populace (including their army) is *starving* is nuke Seoul. That's not gonna happen, landmines or not. And "landmines aren't hurting anyone" is such an absurd line of thought that it's not worth commenting on.

seppo
 
[quote name='helava']And landmines are going to stop a missile how, exactly? Do you think that North Korea, if they decided to invade South Korea, would do it by *walking* over the border? Come on. The only thing they *could* do, because their populace (including their army) is *starving* is nuke Seoul. That's not gonna happen, landmines or not. And "landmines aren't hurting anyone" is such an absurd line of thought that it's not worth commenting on.

seppo[/quote]


No these landmines aren't hurting anyone, and if they were removed ANYONE with a brain knows that North Korea would invade the south. Yes we have to get rid of their nukes, but if the landminds weren't there they most likely would nuke the US troops and then invade, or invade and when the USA tries to stop us bomb somewhere else.
 
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