Dumb People 0wned. DS to Launch at 149.99

I really was thinking about passing this thing by because even though I love Nintendo, I don't need another handheld. But at $149.99 there is not much I will be able to do to resist. I'm such a sucker!
 
dumb? i thought it would be 150 all along... as for you drunktigerwoods, have no fear you can enjoy your gba games on the ds, so now you have to buy it
 
Nintendo has confirmed that the system will be backward compatible with Game Boy Advance games, but will not support system-link multiplayer due to the DS' lack of link cable port.
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*bangs head against the wall*
*thinking of Cube connectivity*
 
[quote name='SevereTireDamage']
Nintendo has confirmed that the system will be backward compatible with Game Boy Advance games, but will not support system-link multiplayer due to the DS' lack of link cable port.
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*bangs head against the wall*
*thinking of Cube connectivity*[/quote]

yeah, that thought did cross my mind...
 
While I've been saying all along it wouldnt be 200, I'm still not sure I want to beleive IGN but I guess I have to since it technically IS an official word. I'm glad to hear it'll be 25 bucks less than I expected with pictochat built in like I was betting.

As for the system link I expected that. Having that wireless link was definatly going to preclude the ability to system link, though I wouldn't put it past nintendo to come up with a wireless system link for the cube to communicate with the DS.

My question now is will I still be able to link between a DS and a GBA with it's wireless link? I'd hate to not be able to have a nice vs. match in advance wars just because my friend has a GBA and I have a DS.
 
I was thinking that too Alpha. I'm hoping the DS can communicate with the GBA via Wireless Adapter. I also don't see why they couldn't just make something similar to the Wavebird plug for the DS to connect to the Cube. Better yet, why not just let the DS use the Wavebird plug to connect? (if possible)
 
The wavebird receiver wasnt designed for the amount of data required for someting like FF:CC plus it's not a transmitter so you cant send minigames and applications to the DS for games that dont require a cart.
 
Are there any original games (not ports) that are coming out at launch? AN all-new Mario game with Mario 64 graphics would be awesome. I'm not talking about Mario 64x4 but a brand new adventure. Or an all-new Zelda with N64 graphics would make me pick it up at launch. I'd even pay $50 for an all-new portable Zelda.
 
I'll probably pick this up after the first decent deal I see, although Punq does bring up a good point, how much are games going to be?
 
I can see the games being as low at $30 to as high as $40. Anything more would be asking way too much. The GGC will help make the prices more bearable regardless. I just don't like paying much for a portable game, but the DS just makes it so tempting.

I do hope the GBA Wireless Adapter can connect to the DS. The wireless adapter was just released, they need to make some use of it.
 
[quote name='kaji7p56']Are there any original games (not ports) that are coming out at launch? AN all-new Mario game with Mario 64 graphics would be awesome. I'm not talking about Mario 64x4 but a brand new adventure. Or an all-new Zelda with N64 graphics would make me pick it up at launch. I'd even pay $50 for an all-new portable Zelda.[/quote]

launch titles have not been really announced yet. so no one can answer this realistically.

there are many original games slated to come out but what makes launch is unknown.

but im 100% sure animal crossing will launch. if it dosnet, im not buying a ds until ac comes out...and theres a bunch of other freaks like me....and nintendo wants our money ^^
 
[quote name='Alpha2']
My question now is will I still be able to link between a DS and a GBA with it's wireless link? I'd hate to not be able to have a nice vs. match in advance wars just because my friend has a GBA and I have a DS.[/quote]


No, the DS wireless functions are for DS to DS only. The system has no link port and GBA games can not use the link function when in the DS system. So, if you like to link up GBA games (Advance Wars, Mario Kart, etc.) then you will need to keep a GBA around.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']I can see the games being as low at $30 to as high as $40. Anything more would be asking way too much. The GGC will help make the prices more bearable regardless. I just don't like paying much for a portable game, but the DS just makes it so tempting.

I do hope the GBA Wireless Adapter can connect to the DS. The wireless adapter was just released, they need to make some use of it.[/quote]

if games are more than 30 iwont be buying any other than animal crossing, its a tricky spot for nintendo tho because their gba games are 30 and the more advanced ds games will be?

tricky

they might drop gba games down to 20 msrp...which would be amazing, but i think they will keep gba prices where they are until feb and ds games will be 35-40,
 
[quote name='valor19']
No, the DS wireless functions are for DS to DS only. The system has no link port and GBA games can not use the link function when in the DS system. So, if you like to link up GBA games (Advance Wars, Mario Kart, etc.) then you will need to keep a GBA around.[/quote]

Damn this is probably the one thing that would really slow down my purchasing a DS, I mean if you cant even play DS to DS with a GBA game that's going to suck. Not to mention there are people who will be trading in GBAs to get this only to find they cant play each other anymore, bad move Nintendo.

Of course now this means they get to release new versions of Pokemon, Yugioh and Advance Wars to take advantage of the new wireless but that still sucks because you;ll have to pay more for a new game just to do it. :?

I see DS games going for 35 when they hit. New GBA games arnt going to drop, they;ll stay at 25 and 30 dollars because they will still sell to people who ONLY have GBAs, the DS games will have 3D elements and maybe a couple of seconds of FMV here and there but that's the only thing that will set them apart (just because it has a 3rd dimension dosent mean they get to charge excessively more).
 
One thing to keep in mind is that the cost per megabyte for DS games is a fair bit lower than it is for GBA. The DS format uses current technology that isn't readily adapted to the ancient cartridge slot of the Game Boy.

OTOH, the toyical DS should be somewhat larger than a GBA game since textures can add up fast. Eventually DS titles should grow to within 2/3 of N64 games of comparable appearance and complexity due to the lower combined resolution of the combined screens. All in all, I expect DS games to be reasonably priced. They'll probably carry the same top-end tag as GBA games at $35 and be discounted correspondingly. Over time there should be plenty of room for growth on the DS carts. For instance, Resident Evil 2 on the N64 used a 512 Mb cart (64 MB) that retailed for $60. The cost of that amount of ROM has decreased more than half since then. The DS won't be ROM capacity deprived at reasonable game prices.

This price point is good news. I probably won't get it at launch but it means I will be getting it sooner than when $180 was the most commonly stated price.
 
As much as I want a DS, I wouldn't buy any $40 games for it. Intsead of spending money on the DS and a game or two, I could just buy some hotness for my existing systems. The $150 price point is nice, but its looking like I'll be waiting. Theres too much goodness coming this season anyway.
 
well I had an idea that it would cost 150. Anyone having a problem at this price should look it as a Pre-price drop DS plus 50 bucks to play the DS games. I have a first gen GBA and never got an SP so I expect having lots of fun playing my games finally lit.

Also the launch GBA games cost 30 for First party and 40 for 3rd party. I'm sure that is about what to expect.
 
I feel a lot less compulsion to get a GBA SP in light of this. My original GBA works fine and I've only ever used the comm port once, to move save data between Golden Sun 1 and 2. I have aGBA-GC cable that I might use with Wind Waker but in general I doubt I'd ever miss the comm port much on the DS. The native wireless will serve if I get the urge as I expect it to make for more compelling linkup stuff on the DS.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']
Damn this is probably the one thing that would really slow down my purchasing a DS, I mean if you cant even play DS to DS with a GBA game that's going to suck. Not to mention there are people who will be trading in GBAs to get this only to find they cant play each other anymore, bad move Nintendo.
.[/quote]

Well, according to the link he provided...

"Nintendo has confirmed that the system will be backward compatible with Game Boy Advance games, but will not support system-link multiplayer in GBA games due to the DS' lack of link cable port."

Maybe there is no room for another port given how small the system is and how much it is already capable of. This doesn't make sense to me but I'm sure Nintendo has a logical reason.
 
Well the thing that gets me is that the GBA cost less than 88$ to make the thing at launch a few years ago, it uses the same basioc tech so it shouldn't be hugely expensive.


I don't know where you got your GBA launch titles but I got the F-Zero game for $30.
 
Yeah I was hoping it would drop to $150, since $200 was a little excessive. Now all I need to do is find $150 . . .
 
I'm not a portable gamer at alll, but $150 sounds very nice. If there's sufficient launch titles to interest me I'll pick one up.
 
anyone know if this will play ALL gameboy games, before it said it would not play gameboy games,


also in the older games will the top screen be blank if the game doesnt use it
 
So, where can I get a GBA SP for $49.99? :) I want GC connectivity that is mostly what I use my SP for anyhow.
 
I'd buy it for $149.99, but with all the games coming out this Fall on the 3 home consoles, I'll just ask my wife to buy it for me for Christmas. Too many damn games being released in too short a period of time! :x
 
Called Ebgames they said the deal they will have running


GET THE DS FOR 99.99 WITH SP TRADE IN

they didnt mention if you needed to toss in any games.... I think this would be a wicked deal since the SP only cost 80 now
 
[quote name='Tenacious D']I'd buy it for $149.99, but with all the games coming out this Fall on the 3 home consoles, I'll just ask my wife to buy it for me for Christmas. Too many damn games being released in too short a period of time! :x[/quote]

Which makes sense as to why Nintendo pushed back RE4, Geist, etc. This way they have a large bit of "Hype" for their new system and a few games rolling out ie Paper Mario, etc. Then they DS hype goes through the year and the next year starts off with some awesome GC games.... and following that they will hit us with more DS Goodness I am sure.

next holidya it will be most likely a simultaneous launch with the DS and GC zeldas...
 
[quote name='slidecage']anyone know if this will play ALL gameboy games, before it said it would not play gameboy games,


also in the older games will the top screen be blank if the game doesnt use it[/quote]
It'll only play GBA games...no GB or GBC games.
 
[quote name='valor19'][quote name='Alpha2']
Damn this is probably the one thing that would really slow down my purchasing a DS, I mean if you cant even play DS to DS with a GBA game that's going to suck. Not to mention there are people who will be trading in GBAs to get this only to find they cant play each other anymore, bad move Nintendo.
.[/quote]

Well, according to the link he provided...

"Nintendo has confirmed that the system will be backward compatible with Game Boy Advance games, but will not support system-link multiplayer in GBA games due to the DS' lack of link cable port."

Maybe there is no room for another port given how small the system is and how much it is already capable of. This doesn't make sense to me but I'm sure Nintendo has a logical reason.[/quote]

What they should have done was implement a translator in between the software emulator that they will be running GBA games on that converts the signal intended for a link cable into a signal that conforms to the DS's wireless link. If the GBA games weren't running in an emulated environment I could more easily explain the "BUT TEH DS DOESNT HAVE TEH LINKZ PORT!11!!" argument.
 
[quote name='slidecage']Called Ebgames they said the deal they will have running


GET THE DS FOR 99.99 WITH SP TRADE IN

they didnt mention if you needed to toss in any games.... I think this would be a wicked deal since the SP only cost 80 now[/quote]

that deal sucks, in fact, i dont even think its a deal, you can trade your SP into Gamestop (represent!) for 55 dollars credit, so youd get your DS for 94.99! so ha!
 
With the DS being 149.99 hopefully the PSP will be closer to 199-229 now instead of the 249-299 everyone isguessing it will be.


In order to compete i think sony will have to lower the price to 199.
at least i am hoping .

i honestly dont see anyone rushing out to spend 300 bucks on a handheld
system with 2-8 hrs bettery life and no game included.

especially when u look right next to the psp and see a DS for 149.99 and a TON of games to play on it right away (old awesome gba games)
 
I think the fact that it doesn't link to the GBA or play GBC games make perfect sense when you consider that Nintendo has insisted the DS is not a replacement for the GBA. Many more people will be keeping their GBA's to play the GBC games (I know I will) and so there's a much better chance of have 2 handhelds do well in the marketplace.
 
[quote name='mombbsmj']I think the fact that it doesn't link to the GBA or play GBC games make perfect sense when you consider that Nintendo has insisted the DS is not a replacement for the GBA. Many more people will be keeping their GBA's to play the GBC games (I know I will) and so there's a much better chance of have 2 handhelds do well in the marketplace.[/quote]
That is exactly what I was thinking.
 
I've been pretty verbal in stating that I will not buy a DS or PSP based on their price tags, but i've been second guessing that since I read this last night.
 
Let's see, that's 2 screens at $150 ... $75 per screen...

I predict that Nintendo's next handheld after the DS will have 80 tiny screens, be perspiration-sensative (for stress-based gaming), have .4 minutes of battery life and cost $426 dollars. What a value!
 
Let's see, that's 2 screens at $150 ... $75 per screen...

I predict that Nintendo's next handheld after the DS will have 80 tiny screens, be perspiration-sensative (for stress-based gaming), have .4 minutes of battery life and cost $426 dollars. What a value!
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I'm not sure where you are coming from with this comment... But, the result is absolutely ludicrous. And besides, with that rational, look at the most likely PSP price tag ($200-300?) with only one screen...

But that really doesn't matter since your comment really didn't state a purpose anyway...
 
[quote name='OneThousandFingers']Let's see, that's 2 screens at $150 ... $75 per screen...

I predict that Nintendo's next handheld after the DS will have 80 tiny screens, be perspiration-sensative (for stress-based gaming), have .4 minutes of battery life and cost $426 dollars. What a value![/quote]

You, sir, are a moron. That makes no sense on at least 3 levels.
1) Nintendo is positioning themselves as the low cost game maker. Sony will make the 426 dollar one.
2) 75 * 80 = 6000. And 75 bucks a screen is less then anything else comparable. Hell, its less than a GBASP, I think.
3) You are just an idiot.
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']Wow, don't be so rough on the poor guy...[/quote]

I will be as rough as I want to be. Which is a very. Or something.
 
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