[quote name='Cheese']When dealing with a hostile country we always say, "The nuclear option is still on the table." We'd never use it again, but it's still on the table.
He explains himself right there, "because we may reach a point where we would consider it." He thinks it's a bad idea, but he wants to keep the option open. There might come a time when we understand the consequences better, or any number of things that make it a reasonable course of action.
There are nine pages of ideas that are might be embarrassing, and 1043 that are not. Maybe he likes one of those.
Maybe he doesn't live in fear that nine pages of ideas from a 1,000+ page book he co-authored with two other people 30 years ago didn't come to pass. He's the director of science and technology at Harvard, I bet he's pretty comfortable with his place in the science community, despite his 30 year old, nine page transgressions.
We don't listen to conspiracy theorists because more often then not (this case included) they offer little in the way of facts and much in the way of theory. [/QUOTE]
I see scans of his book. Those are facts.
Much like saying, "If he has a book he wrote 30 years ago on his shelf, he MUST BE A NAZI." There is the fact that the book has some controversial & outdated ideas, and it's a fact that it is on the guy's shelf.
Controversial & outdated ideas? That's what you want to call them?
“Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”
“One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption—especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone. If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it. Adoption proceedings probably should remain more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement for adoption, depending on the society.”
“Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock.”
“A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men.
The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.”
“If some individuals contribute to general social deterioration by overproducing children, and if the need is compelling, they can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility—just as they can be required to exercise responsibility in their resource-consumption patterns—providing they are not denied equal protection.“
“In today’s world, however, the number of children in a family is a matter of profound public concern. The law regulates other highly personal matters. For example, no one may lawfully have more than one spouse at a time. Why should the law not be able to prevent a person from having more than two children?”
“Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market.”
“The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.”
“If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization.”
“Another related issue that seems to encourage a pronatalist attitude in many people is the question of the differential reproduction of social or ethnic groups. Many people seem to be possessed by fear that their group may be outbred by other groups. White Americans and South Africans are worried there will be too many blacks, and vice versa. The Jews in Israel are disturbed by the high birth rates of Israeli Arabs, Protestants are worried about Catholics, and lbos about Hausas. Obviously, if everyone tries to outbreed everyone else, the result will be catastrophe for all. This is another case of the “tragedy of the commons,” wherein the “commons” is the planet Earth. Fortunately, it appears that, at least in the DCs, virtually all groups are exercising reproductive restraint.”
“Humanity cannot afford to muddle through the rest of the twentieth century; the risks are too great, and the stakes are too high. This may be the last opportunity to choose our own and our descendants’ destiny. Failing to choose or making the wrong choices may lead to catastrophe. But it must never be forgotten that the right choices could lead to a much better world.”
But that means that he still carries these ideas and wants to institute forced abortion camps is Alex Jones' own fantasy.
I see nowhere in these articles mentioned where it says there will be forced abortion camps. I do however see in Holdren's writings where he talks about forced abortions.
Holdren has denounced the ideas a number of times, including during his confirmation hearings,
Source?
how is it you're willing to disregard what is coming out of the guy's own mouth in favor of Alex Jones' (who has never gotten anything right) opinion?
Again, I don't care about opinions, only facts. The fact is, Holdren wrote these things in his textbook, that are sickening.
Next you'll be telling me he's a lizard person.
I see nothing about lizard people on this guy's site.
If you would like some info on them, a quick google search brings up this:
http://www.reptoids.com/
Better watch out for the reptilian human hybrids. They're out to get you!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
ing crazy! You think he intentionally rearranged the books on his shelves to promote one of 20 books he's written? And then specifically promote the paragraph of ideas you've read about in the entire book? 
