Explain to me, how america is the Greatest.

U2K Tha Greate$t

U2K Tha Greate$t

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I hear of alot of talk about how this land which is called america is the greatest, and even tho i am not american, i have been living in this land long enough to see it is not the greatest. I would go far enough and say, there is not great land on this earth, and neither is there any holy lands. I do however believe that america is more stable then some of the lands in this world, but thats really about it.

All lands seems to be corrupt and out of place, so please, someone englighen me.
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[quote name='RedvsBlue']Ok but first explain to me why U2K is the greatest![/QUOTE]

Because i am , in a way. You find out in before late 2007. But um lets get back to the thread alright.
 
I don't think America is the best possible, but its probably one of the best around... Canada is great and all, but they speak french.
 
[quote name='Kayden']I don't think America is the best possible, but its probably one of the best around... Canada is great and all, but they speak french.[/QUOTE]

Well, immigrants seem to like canada, I even know a guy from zimbabwe, who lives in the u.s., who tells everyone to go to canada instead because they're treated better there. Though most canadians don't seem to like quebec or quebecois, and quebecois don't seem to like dealing with the rest of canada or english speakers. Basically, stay away from quebec and you stay away from french.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Well, immigrants seem to like canada, I even know a guy from zimbabwe, who lives in the u.s., who tells everyone to go to canada instead because they're treated better there. Though most canadians don't seem to like quebec or quebecois, and quebecois don't seem to like dealing with the rest of canada or english speakers. Basically, stay away from quebec and you stay away from french.[/QUOTE]

I put it like this, any place that has video games and grocery stores is cool in my opinion. But great, or greatest land? No, i dont believe so.
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']I hear of alot of talk about how this land which is called america is the greatest, and even tho i am not american, i have been living in this land long enough to see it is not the greatest. I would go far enough and say, there is not great land on this earth, and neither is there any holy lands. I do however believe that america is more stable then some of the lands in this world, but thats really about it.

All lands seems to be corrupt and out of place, so please, someone englighen me.
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are you on crack?

clearly the U.S.A. is the greatest empire to ever arise on planet Earth.

if it wasn't for Americans you wouldn't have TV, radio, light bulbs, coca-cola, submarines, artificial hearts (or open heart surgery), tractors, pencils, morse code, electron microscopes, pacemakers, cash registers, razors, ice machines, vulcanized rubber, short-hand, conditioner, telephones, locomotives, assembly lines, desktop computers OR the freaking internet plus about another 1,000,000 items that people use every day - not to mention all the American entertaiment that the world loves to pretend to look down on, while consuming it faster than Rush Limbaugh downing a bottle of hillbilly heroin.

america > you

fact
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']I put it like this, any place that has video games and grocery stores is cool in my opinion. But great, or greatest land? No, i dont believe so.[/QUOTE]

name a country or place that's greater

we're all waiting.....
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']are you on crack?

clearly the U.S.A. is the greatest empire to ever arise on planet Earth.

if it wasn't for Americans you wouldn't have TV, radio, light bulbs, coca-cola, submarines, artificial hearts (or open heart surgery), tractors, pencils, morse code, electron microscopes, pacemakers, cash registers, razors, ice machines, vulcanized rubber, short-hand, conditioner, telephones, locomotives, assembly lines, desktop computers OR the freaking internet plus about another 1,000,000 items that people use every day - not to mention all the American entertaiment that the world loves to pretend to look down on, while consuming it faster than Rush Limbaugh downing a bottle of hillbilly heroin.

america > you

fact[/QUOTE]

Greatest empire depends on the definition of empire and what makes it greatest.

But placing the u.s. as the greatest country in the world is, like giving any country that position, is completely subjective and based on the criteria chosen and personal opinion.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Greatest empire depends on the definition of empire and what makes it greatest.

But placing the u.s. as the greatest country in the world is, like giving any country that position, is completely subjective and based on the criteria chosen and personal opinion.[/QUOTE]

again... name any empire (of any sort) that is greater and give your reasons

the only one I can think of, off hand is the Playboy Empire. If 'Hef-istan' were a sovereign nation, I'd give it the title...

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in the real world though that's just one more reason why the U.S.A. owns every other nation.

we even invented the centerfold.

can't front on that
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']are you on crack?

clearly the U.S.A. is the greatest empire to ever arise on planet Earth.

if it wasn't for Americans you wouldn't have TV, radio, light bulbs, coca-cola, submarines, artificial hearts (or open heart surgery), tractors, pencils, morse code, electron microscopes, pacemakers, cash registers, razors, ice machines, vulcanized rubber, short-hand, conditioner, telephones, locomotives, assembly lines, desktop computers OR the freaking internet plus about another 1,000,000 items that people use every day - not to mention all the American entertaiment that the world loves to pretend to look down on, while consuming it faster than Rush Limbaugh downing a bottle of hillbilly heroin.

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Everything you said is base on material things, thus:

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Thusx2, you missed the point to this thread, try again please.

hmmmm, i wonder how many porn movies is being made as i type this? :applause:


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[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']I hear of alot of talk about how this land which is called america is the greatest, and even tho i am not american, i have been living in this land long enough to see it is not the greatest. I would go far enough and say, there is not great land on this earth, and neither is there any holy lands. I do however believe that america is more stable then some of the lands in this world, but thats really about it.

All lands seems to be corrupt and out of place, so please, someone englighen me.
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If the US is not the greatest then can you enlighten us as to which country do you think should be considered the greatest?
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']Everything you said is base on material things, thus:

[size=-1]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of
God abideth for ever
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Thusx2, you missed the point to this thread, try again please.

hmmmm, i wonder how many porn movies is being made as i type this? :applause:


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yeah that's pretty hilarious... i'd like to see you live on God when you're starving and your rent is due.

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newsflash, you live on Earth which is made of MATTER. everything is a 'material good' you mental midget. that's what 'empires' and 'nations' are made of, material fucking things.

if you have a problem with that I would invite you to go live with your maker in Heaven. i think the world would be a better place for it.

and as an aside, NO idea what the porn comment was about but I live in the porn capital of the U.S. so my guess is that probably 20-30 different porn movies are currently being filmed in the greater Southern CA area as we type this...

worldwide though... ? no clue.

i'm just happy that America was smart enough to invent modern Porn.

it's one of the backbones of the economy of Earth. without Pornography the world would collapse in on itself.
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']Everything you said is base on material things, thus:

[size=-1]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of
God abideth for ever
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Thusx2, you missed the point to this thread, try again please.

hmmmm, i wonder how many porn movies is being made as i type this? :applause:


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Well then, I guess you wont mind if we seize your material possesions to keep you from posting on CAG. Or anywhere else for that matter.

Why is it that the people with the least to say shout the loudest?
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']again... name any empire (of any sort) that is greater and give your reasons

the only one I can think of, off hand is the Playboy Empire. If 'Hef-istan' were a sovereign nation, I'd give it the title...

britney_hefner,0.jpg


in the real world though that's just one more reason why the U.S.A. owns every other nation.

we even invented the centerfold.

can't front on that[/QUOTE]

Land controlled, relative military strength, different populations controlled and united (ie. keeping the roman empire intact takes more effort than keeping the u.s. intact) etc., there are many different ways to judge the greatest empire ever.

There are a lot of things that go into being the greatest country, form of government, ingenuity, education available, treatment of poor, freedom, wealth, treatment of minorities, cultural history, use of influence, use of military, equal opportunity etc. There is no way to possibly decide the greatest country. You can have an opinion on which you think is best, but there's no way to get a definitive answer. There's 4 clear cut things about america, it has made more major inventions than any other country since 1776 (population size, expansion and wealth plays a role here), it is the, overal, wealthiest nation on earth (then again, the condition of our poor is nothing to brag about), most high quality universities (which most people will never, and can never, get near), and it's the worlds strongest military. But, the level of importance given to specific strengths and weaknesses, and the decision of what a strength and weakness is (ie. someone may see our great wealth as a strength, others may see it as a weakness since we tend to view success and failure as entirely deserved, and therefore don't do much to help our poor compared to the resources we have), will result in many, many different opinions on greatest country.

Personally, I don't think there is a greatest country. I think there are greatest countries in particular areas, but no overal best country. Personally, there are many reasons that many countries can be considered the greatest country. Though I find that inventions, military, and playboy to be negligable reasons compared to social aspects, like the conditions of poor, social equality, access to opportunities and other similar issues. On the criteria you used, yes america probably would come out top overal, on the criteria I used, and the criteria normally used in deciding quality of life, it doesn't get near it. Honestly, as much as I find u2k to be bible thumping and close minded, he does have a point. You're basing greatness on things of material concern more than social wellbeing and happiness. Quite honestly, I really don't think I'd be any less happy or any less well off if I never had a microwave, but I know that, without quality health insurance, my father would never have recieved the level of care he did and would still be a hospitalized quadraplegic. I think that would have a much greater effect on my happiness and well being.
 
I moved to America when I was 6 from Russia. After 2-3 years I moved to Canada then after 2 years there I moved to another part of the US. All in all I would say that the US is definatly not the best. It may be an economic power house but nothing else. The only thing america has better than any other country is money. THe great military we have is fro mthe money we have.

When I moved from Canada I realised how much nicer Canada was. People tended to be nicer and the streets were cleaner. It was a much more courteous place than the US. The US has never WOWed me. Infact I think the best countries out there are the European ones with laws that make sense and dont intrude on my rights.

Laws such as the Patriot Act anger me extremly. I despise it becuase it breaks all of my basic rights. And what I hate more is that people havent done crap about it. Sure poepl dont like it but are they doning anything about ot? It seems to me that the peoples feeling of democracy is slipping into a comfort area where we just become so used to things that we stop caring. I dont like where the state of this country is going and I hope it will change when its time for a re-election.
 
[quote name='dtarasev']I moved to America when I was 6 from Russia. After 2-3 years I moved to Canada then after 2 years there I moved to another part of the US. All in all I would say that the US is definatly not the best. It may be an economic power house but nothing else. The only thing america has better than any other country is money. THe great military we have is fro mthe money we have.

When I moved from Canada I realised how much nicer Canada was. People tended to be nicer and the streets were cleaner. It was a much more courteous place than the US. The US has never WOWed me. Infact I think the best countries out there are the European ones with laws that make sense and dont intrude on my rights.

Laws such as the Patriot Act anger me extremly. I despise it becuase it breaks all of my basic rights. And what I hate more is that people havent done crap about it. Sure poepl dont like it but are they doning anything about ot? It seems to me that the peoples feeling of democracy is slipping into a comfort area where we just become so used to things that we stop caring. I dont like where the state of this country is going and I hope it will change when its time for a re-election.[/QUOTE]

Most immigrants seem to prefer canada over the u.s., usually for the reasons you mentioned, as well as better opportunities for immigrants (making upward mobility easier), and they're treated better. Then again, there are horror stories on both sides as well (ie. doctors not having their PHD recognized so they end up working at the falafel hut while having to start college from scratch again).

Thought this was interesting, horrible thing to say, but interesting:

You must understand the environment in Pakistan ... This has become a money-making concern. A lot of people say if you want to go abroad and get a visa for Canada or citizenship and be a millionaire, get yourself raped," the Post quoted Musharraf as saying.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/09/16/musharraf.canada.reut/index.html
 
[quote name='mykevermin']So, then, where the fuck are you from u2k?[/QUOTE]

He's from Russia, to quote his FileFront forum intro. Too bad he had to migrate to CAG, instead of staying and infecting FileFront. :|
 
What does better or greatest mean?

historically, I'm gonna go with China, Greece, Italy, Turkey or the Middle East

in terms of food, France, Italy, Thailand, and China.

in terms of hot chicks - Argentina, Czech Republic, Brazil, China (mostly Hong Kong)

in terms of geographically - the U.S.A, China, Russia, Canada

in terms of literature - Ireland, England, U.S.A, France (ok so i'm biased and western cetric)

in terms of soccer - Brazil, France, Germany, England

etc. etc. etc.
 
Well, as i mention there is not great land from my viewpoint. Because every nation / land seems to be corrupt or something wrong doing is going on in it. America is a nice place to lived and its a nice place overall, but greatest land? I wouldnt think so, because if havent notice, there is alot of bs going on. I think all lands are the same, some may be more violent and unstable then others, but all of them seems to be the same in the sense of everything is equal when it comes to the foundation of this world.

There is no peace on this earth, not yet anyway. So if there is no peace, there is no great land.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I'm not sure if you're talking to me or u2k. If its me, then better in what area?[/QUOTE]

If I was talking to you I would have specified the area.;)
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']
There is no peace on this earth, not yet anyway. So if there is no peace, there is no great land.[/QUOTE]

To be the greatest you simply have to be the best of al the choices you don't have to be a Utopia, now try to think of a country on this planet that is better than the US and explain why.
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']Well, as i mention there is not great land from my viewpoint. Because every nation / land seems to be corrupt or something wrong doing is going on in it. America is a nice place to lived and its a nice place overall, but greatest land? I wouldnt think so, because if havent notice, there is alot of bs going on. I think all lands are the same, some may be more violent and unstable then others, but all of them seems to be the same in the sense of everything is equal when it comes to the foundation of this world.

There is no peace on this earth, not yet anyway. So if there is no peace, there is no great land.[/QUOTE]

I hope you're a 13 year old who is trying to get a rile out of people and not actually a person who would refer to countries as "lands"
 
In soccer the USA has a higher current FIFA ranking than England or Germany.
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Last month we were 6th. How did we lose a ranking when we beat the Mexicans (Currently 5th) to qualify for the World Cup Labor Day weekend???
 
[quote name='Sleepkyng']What does better or greatest mean?

historically, I'm gonna go with China, Greece, Italy, Turkey or the Middle East

in terms of food, France, Italy, Thailand, and China.

in terms of hot chicks - Argentina, Czech Republic, Brazil, China (mostly Hong Kong)

in terms of geographically - the U.S.A, China, Russia, Canada

in terms of literature - Ireland, England, U.S.A, France (ok so i'm biased and western cetric)

in terms of soccer - Brazil, France, Germany, England

etc. etc. etc.[/QUOTE]

thank you for at least providing some examples to support your opinions
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Land controlled, relative military strength, different populations controlled and united (ie. keeping the roman empire intact takes more effort than keeping the u.s. intact) etc., there are many different ways to judge the greatest empire ever.

There are a lot of things that go into being the greatest country, form of government, ingenuity, education available, treatment of poor, freedom, wealth, treatment of minorities, cultural history, use of influence, use of military, equal opportunity etc. There is no way to possibly decide the greatest country. You can have an opinion on which you think is best, but there's no way to get a definitive answer. There's 4 clear cut things about america, it has made more major inventions than any other country since 1776 (population size, expansion and wealth plays a role here), it is the, overal, wealthiest nation on earth (then again, the condition of our poor is nothing to brag about), most high quality universities (which most people will never, and can never, get near), and it's the worlds strongest military. But, the level of importance given to specific strengths and weaknesses, and the decision of what a strength and weakness is (ie. someone may see our great wealth as a strength, others may see it as a weakness since we tend to view success and failure as entirely deserved, and therefore don't do much to help our poor compared to the resources we have), will result in many, many different opinions on greatest country.

Personally, I don't think there is a greatest country. I think there are greatest countries in particular areas, but no overal best country. Personally, there are many reasons that many countries can be considered the greatest country. Though I find that inventions, military, and playboy to be negligable reasons compared to social aspects, like the conditions of poor, social equality, access to opportunities and other similar issues. On the criteria you used, yes america probably would come out top overal, on the criteria I used, and the criteria normally used in deciding quality of life, it doesn't get near it. Honestly, as much as I find u2k to be bible thumping and close minded, he does have a point. You're basing greatness on things of material concern more than social wellbeing and happiness. Quite honestly, I really don't think I'd be any less happy or any less well off if I never had a microwave, but I know that, without quality health insurance, my father would never have recieved the level of care he did and would still be a hospitalized quadraplegic. I think that would have a much greater effect on my happiness and well being.[/QUOTE]

100% incorrect.

i merely gave some examples of life necessities that have been brought to you courtesy of America The Beautiful.

that wasn't a complete list.

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regarding quality of life issues... you're contradicting yourself there just a tad as many material goods relate directly to overall quality of life.

however if you just want to stick to intangibles like access to opportunity, where the poverty line falls, social equality, etc... then again - AMERICA OWNS EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HANDS DOWN.

If you disagree PLEASE TELL ME what country provides greater opportunity than America? Our 'access to opportunity' is so spectacular that people flood across our borders to take advantage of it. People below the poverty line in the U.S. have infinitely more opportunity to get out of that poverty than do people from the vast majority of other countries around the globe.

The same goes for civil rights, social issues and the rest. Of course you can pick out examples of things that don't work in the U.S. but our system is STILL head and shoulders above others'.

By far, the greatest way to see how much America kicks ass is to do what I did. Travel around the world to other countries and see what goes on with your own eyes. I love Eastern Europe, Asia and South/Central America... they are super awesome. But comparing those to the USofA is like comparing Goodfellas to The Godfather. One is really good... one is the BEST EVER.

Lastly.. the best thing of all about America. If you hate it and wish it would be wiped off the face of the planet, we'll still let you in!!! Burn the flag! Go nuts! It's all good b/c we're free to do and say what we please.

in short... please direct your attention toward the game and away from the player
 
100% incorrect.

i merely gave some examples of life necessities that have been brought to you courtesy of America The Beautiful.

that wasn't a complete list.

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regarding quality of life issues... you're contradicting yourself there just a tad as many material goods relate directly to overall quality of life.
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But most are just interesting iventions. Major ones, like airplanes, become common use throughout the world and the founder becomes insignificant, as all wealthy nations use them. You'd also be suprised how often it's a race, instead of a lone inventor. The airplane is one of many things were others were right behind, including europeans.


regarding quality of life issues... you're contradicting yourself there just a tad as many material goods relate directly to overall quality of life.
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But many do not, and once the technology becomes available it no longer matters which country invented it, since the wealthy nations all take advantage of it. Basically, it doesn't matter who invented airplanes (which was basically a race anyway, since others, including europeans, were very close to it as well), all nations have them now and therefore does not effect living standards and quality of life.
however if you just want to stick to intangibles like access to opportunity, where the poverty line falls, social equality, etc... then again - AMERICA OWNS EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HANDS DOWN.

If you disagree PLEASE TELL ME what country provides greater opportunity than America? Our 'access to opportunity' is so spectacular that people flood across our borders to take advantage of it. People below the poverty line in the U.S. have infinitely more opportunity to get out of that poverty than do people from the vast majority of other countries around the globe.
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People flood our borders because we're the rich country to the north. They flood our borders like north africans flood Italy and Spain, and like vietnamese, north koreans, cambodians etc. flood China.

In studies done Canada and europe (britain being an exception) have the most upward mobility, u.s. is on the bottom.

Despite the widespread belief that the U.S. remains a more mobile society than Europe, economists and sociologists say that in recent decades the typical child starting out in poverty in continental Europe (or in Canada) has had a better chance at prosperity. Miles Corak, an economist for Canada's national statistical agency who edited a recent Cambridge University Press book on mobility in Europe and North America, tweaked dozens of studies of the U.S., Canada and European countries to make them comparable. "The U.S. and Britain appear to stand out as the least mobile societies among the rich countries studied," he finds. France and Germany are somewhat more mobile than the U.S.; Canada and the Nordic countries are much more so.
Even the University of Chicago's Prof. Becker is changing his mind, reluctantly. "I do believe that it's still true if you come from a modest background it's easier to move ahead in the U.S. than elsewhere," he says, "but the more data we get that doesn't show that, the more we have to accept the conclusions."
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05133/504149.stm

For immigrants, toronto was a different world than what I was used to. My university was loaded with immigrants, africans, middle easterners, and tons of asians. Toronto is the largest economy in canada, and 50% weren't even born in canada. Markham, a city on the north east boarder of toronto, is majority asian (mostly chinese), and has mega asian malls, large houses and money. In toronto, if you go to chinatown its mostly recent vietnamese immigrants. The children of chinese immigrants made money and moved north. I know a guy from zimbabwe, now living near boston, who is only here to go to Boston University. He's told everyone he knows to go to canada instead, since they treat immigrants better and its easier to get ahead.

In america, if you need medication or become hospitalized and are one of the 15% who don't have insurance your screwed (compared to 0% in other countries). If you have very poor health insurance your screwed. My fathers health insurance sucked, and wouldn't have covered much of what he needed when he was hospitalized (disease that made him a quadraplegic unless treated), luckily my mother has excellent family insurance (from a union) that covered it. In canada, or much of western europe, we wouldn't have had an issue.

The same goes for civil rights, social issues and the rest. Of course you can pick out examples of things that don't work in the U.S. but our system is STILL head and shoulders above others'.

By far, the greatest way to see how much America kicks ass is to do what I did. Travel around the world to other countries and see what goes on with your own eyes. I love Eastern Europe, Asia and South/Central America... they are super awesome. But comparing those to the USofA is like comparing Goodfellas to The Godfather. One is really good... one is the BEST EVER.

Lastly.. the best thing of all about America. If you hate it and wish it would be wiped off the face of the planet, we'll still let you in!!! Burn the flag! Go nuts! It's all good b/c we're free to do and say what we please.
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Funny, you can walk up to the front door of the parliament building in Ottawa (the main government building) and scream about how much Paul Martin sucks and you hope he dies and nothing would happen (assuming you don't threaten to kill him yourself of course). You can burn a flag anywhere in canada and, as long as your not breaking any fire laws, no ones gonna do a thing to you. The same hold true for most of western europe.

In canada (and the netherlands and one other european country I believe) gays can get married throughout the country. In america, only one out of 50 states do people have that right. In most of the western world, no ones threatening to take away abortion rights. In canada they even allow religions to set up voluntarily religious courts for those who wish to use them (there are catholic and jewish ones, islamic ones are in the works). Also, most western countries also have the sense to publicly teach birth control in schools, and have results to show for it.

Most countries populations are also not afraid to pay taxes when they think its necessary. A poll of canadians showed that most would support increasing taxes if it improved health insurance, americans run screaming at suggestions like that.

And, militarily, most countries give more, per capita, for aid, and canada is the all time top peace keeping nation, in number of peacekeepers, number of countries deployed to etc.

I find it odd though, you compared the u.s. to south america, eastern europe and asia, but missed the obvious and most prominent comparison, the u.s. with canada and western europe.
 
More on upward mobility:

The second reason is that America's engines of upward mobility are no longer working as effectively as they once were. The most obvious example lies in the education system. Upward mobility is increasingly determined by education. The income of people with just a high-school diploma was flat in 1975-99, whereas that of people with a bachelor's degree rose substantially, and that of people with advanced degrees rocketed.

The education system is increasingly stratified by social class, and poor children have a double disadvantage. They attend schools with fewer resources than those of their richer contemporaries (school finances are largely determined by local property taxes). And they have to deal with the legacy of what Michael Barone, a conservative commentator, has labelled “soft America”. Soft America is allergic to introducing accountability and measurement in education, particularly if it takes the form of merit pay for successful teachers or rewards for outstanding pupils. Dumbed-down schools are particularly harmful to poor children, who are unlikely to be able to compensate for them at home.

America's great universities are increasingly reinforcing rather than reducing these educational inequalities. Poorer students are at a huge disadvantage, both when they try to get in and, if they are successful, in their ability to make the most of what is on offer. This disadvantage is most marked in the elite colleges that hold the keys to the best jobs. Three-quarters of the students at the country's top 146 colleges come from the richest socio-economic fourth, compared with just 3% who come from the poorest fourth (the median family income at Harvard, for example, is $150,000). This means that, at an elite university, you are 25 times as likely to run into a rich student as a poor one.

One reason for this is government money. The main federal programme supporting poorer students is the Pell grant: 90% of such grants go to families with incomes below $41,000. But the federal government has been shifting resources from Pell grants to other forms of aid to higher education. Student loans are unrelated to family resources. Federal tax breaks for higher education benefit the rich. State subsidies for higher education benefit rich and poor alike. At the same time, colleges are increasingly using financial aid to attract talented students away from competitors rather than to help the poor.........

[font=verdana,geneva,arial,sans serif][size=-1]America's great companies are also becoming less successful agents of upward mobility. The years from 1880 to 1960 were a period of great corporate behemoths. These produced a new class of Americans—professional managers. They built elaborate internal hierarchies, and also accepted their responsibilities to both their workers and their local communities. But since the 1970s the pressure of competition has forced these behemoths to become much leaner—to reduce their layers, contract out some activities, and shift from full-time to part-time employees. It has became harder for people to start at the bottom and rise up the company hierarchy by dint of hard work and self-improvement. And it has also become harder for managers to keep their jobs in a single company. [/size][/font]
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http://www.economist.com/world/na/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3518560
 
I belive that to get a true feeling of a country you must have lived else where for a considerate amount of time, long enough to make friends and get a feel for the culture. The reason that many consider America to be the greatest is either that they actaully belive it or just want to belive it but know that something is wrong.

One thing horrbiley wrong with America rigt now is how we are going back wards after findging solutions. When the Clinton administration set aside a great deal of land for preservation it was supposed be PRESERVED. And now Bush's adminstration ios reversing that to get oil. Now I understand that we need oil but do we need it thaty badly that we would destroy acres upon acres of living things just to get it instead of simply either paying a bit more or just finding something more effective and better.

All countries have problems but America has the most and keeps getting more and more. Other countries at some point also have something like this but they end up solving theirs while we have not. The majority of politicians want to and do shift the publics folcus from the issues which really matter(because violence in videogames is very, VERY important compared to large companies taking over small family buisness and creating a monopoly or peoples rights getting violated everyday).

America would be a great place to live if not for its flaws. I think people are still stuck back in the previous years when national debt wasnt so high and other countries seemed lesser in comaprison. I think that events such as 9/11 break the illusion for a while but then its back to normal within a year and people stop caring.
 
The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk.[/QUOTE]

:shock:

West Coast, you're on the air.
 
[quote name='dtarasev']
All countries have problems but America has the most [/QUOTE]

I'm not looking to get heavily entrentched in this debate, but America has hardly the biggest problems. Places like Honduras, Middle East, South American and Eastern European countries have it a lot harder than we do- When were we fighting for our lives in city streets, or repelling drug lords? Obviously, it could come to all that, but when you really think about it, America is one of the ewasiest places to live in. Hey, you could be working in an outsourced sweatshop in China, or something, then America sounds like a utopia.

[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.[/QUOTE]

Someone ban him, please. This is like Alucard, all over again.
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.[/QUOTE]

You are a FRUIT. I would like your ass to MEAT the LAND after being punted out an airplane.

So, if it wasn't in the bible, it doesn't exist? Damn those TVs, Berlin Walls, Dinosaurs, civil liberties, and showers... They're all imaginary!

Oh... Guess it would be hard to throw you from a plane seeing how they weren't in the bible.... :roll:
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']Everything you said is base on material things, thus:

[size=-1]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of
God abideth for ever
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Thusx2, you missed the point to this thread, try again please.

hmmmm, i wonder how many porn movies is being made as i type this? :applause:


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Yet that's the beauty of America: You don't have to base your life on material things if you don't want to. You can be as religious as you want to. All we ask is you leave others alone. You can be more religious than the Pope. Or you can divest yourself of material things more than monks. Or you can be a lustful greedy slob. Unless you have a penchant for ordering others around, I don't see your problem.
 
[quote name='Sleepkyng']in terms of soccer - Brazil, France, Germany, England[/QUOTE]

Sleepy sleepy sleepy. Why are France on that list? Ridiculous. Brazil, Germany, no question. England, okay, due to the earlier history of the game this is more than fair. No Argentina, Italy? Uruguay have a far superior footballing pedigree compared with France! France should rightfully be placed in a second-tier category I would say, perhaps with the likes of Holland, USSR/Russia, maybe Spain, Portugal, perhaps Hungary.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']In soccer the USA has a higher current FIFA ranking than England or Germany.
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Last month we were 6th. How did we lose a ranking when we beat the Mexicans (Currently 5th) to qualify for the World Cup Labor Day weekend???[/QUOTE]

PAD, the FIFA rankings are a joke. Everyone knows this. The USA are certainly not the 6th best team in the world and Mexico certainly are not the 5th best team. Nobody takes these seriously except the idiot commentators on ESPN like Rob Stone and Eric Wynalda. We're a strong team at this point and so are Mexico, but above Spain, Portugal, England, Italy, Germany? I don't think so. I think more accurate would be around 18th or 20th, very, very respectable and probably higher than most of the world rates us.
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.[/QUOTE]

The bible doesn't mention australians, so I guess that means there's no such things as australians either.

I think you just crossed the boundry between bible thumper and idiot.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']The bible doesn't mention australians, so I guess that means there's no such things as australians either.

I think you just crossed the boundry between bible thumper and idiot.[/QUOTE]

Oh, he established his idiocy a long while ago. :roll:
 
[quote name='U2K Tha Greate$t']The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.[/QUOTE]

Funny, I don't see a lot of "thy", "thee" and "thou" in your posts.
 
[quote name='Tiphireth']I'm not looking to get heavily entrentched in this debate, but America has hardly the biggest problems. Places like Honduras, Middle East, South American and Eastern European countries have it a lot harder than we do- When were we fighting for our lives in city streets, or repelling drug lords? Obviously, it could come to all that, but when you really think about it, America is one of the ewasiest places to live in. Hey, you could be working in an outsourced sweatshop in China, or something, then America sounds like a utopia.

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Yep you're right, when I wrote that I completely forgot about those countries.
 
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