Fallout New Vegas CE - PC vs console + future value discussion + PC MODS!!!

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So I recently picked up a PS3 :ps3: and a PC :pc: version of the Fallout New Vegas Collector's Edition for $29.99 + tax at Gamestop (see this thread for more details about the deal). I guess I could pick up a 360 :360: version, but I don't actually have that console, lol.

I have 2 questions I'd like to open up to the CAG community:

1) Which version (360 :360:, PS3 :ps3:, PC :pc:) is more enjoyable to play? Please consider
  • performance (i.e., freezes/crashes/patches),
  • graphics,
  • DRM (I've read that the PC :pc: version has a mandatory Steam installation/activation. What does that actually mean in terms of a new user who has zero knowledge about this?), and
  • mods (and how Steam/Windows Live affects them). Also, your favorite mods.
among any other factors that might influence your opinion.

and 2) Which version (360 :360:, PS3 :ps3:, PC :pc:) will be more valuable to a collector taking into consideration
  • rarity/availability
  • piracy
  • DRM/Steam/Windows Live

Thanks for your input!

(Oh, and I'm never sure whether this type of thread belongs in the "Request Advice" or the "Deal Discussion" forum, so offer up your votes and if necessary I'll ask a Mod to move the thread somewhere else)
 
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Err... is the PC version really steam only? If so thats BS. How do you have a CE version that doesn't have a disk? Hell im not even sure what steam really is but i think its a system that you d.load games on and dont actually get a DVD/BD copy right?

I never buy DLC versions of games.

That said im sure the PC version looks and plays the best. As far as consoles..
http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head/verdicttie/head2head-fallout-new-vegas-analysis/

to me the 360 version looks a lot better. PS3 version looks more washed out (as they usually do) and i liked the AA on the 360 version and the better draw distance. Plus when you remember how broken the Fallout 3 ps3 version was im concerned about the new vegas version as well.. though i hear they were both horribly broken at launch anyway
 
I think the PC version has a mandatory Steam installation/activation (this is from an Amazon review). One of the reasons for this thread is to get some more clarification on this point.
 
what is steam exactly? I havent games on the PC in ages, though i will probably be building or getting a new one soon so that may change.

i forgot to mention the PS3 version has really crappy load times, even after a large install
 
The game does require Steam activation...really all you do anyway is enter the key in, and the game starts downloading (and installing automatically)

[quote name='Kenshindono']what is steam exactly? I havent games on the PC in ages, though i will probably be building or getting a new one soon so that may change.

i forgot to mention the PS3 version has really crappy load times, even after a large install[/QUOTE]

Steam is a digital distribution platform with its own kind of DRM, although some games (Assassin's Creed) have additional DRM. Everything is online, so once you buy something you have to download it. Those are the two downsides. You'll need to set up an account, and while you can only play online with one account at a time, you can also play most games offline meaning once you've installed it you could (generally) never log back in.

The many positives:

1) Steam is known for its ridiculous sales during the year, with some games - even new games - being offered from 25-75% off.

2) Once you buy a game, it stays in your library forever. Or until Steam is deactivated. For PC game hoarders like myself, this is a perfect way to keep many of my older games offered on Steam without keeping the disc. Many games also offer "Steam activation" which means if you buy the game at another vendor, you can install the Steam version free of charge. Steam also makes many older games a LOT easier to play without major tweaking on modern PCs.

3) Steam offers cloudplay for many new games, which keeps saved games online - you can access these games from any computer with Steam installed.

4) For multiplayer games Steam is a great way to act as a matchmaker.

5) For achievement hunters, Steam generally offers its own form of achievements, usually the same as the console equivalents.

6) Pre-order games can be pre-loaded many times, up to a week in advance. While you can't play the games immediately, as soon as your region is unlocked the game is immediately accessible.

The argument is if you believe that once you buy a disc you should be able to play it without having to use any additional programs. If you've got a lot against digital distributors than stay away from Steam, even if it's DRM is out of the way.

If, on the other hand, you have no qualms about it and are looking to get back into PC gaming (like I was two years ago), then Steam is the premiere - in my opinion, of course - platform.
 
More enjoyable on the PC. And the Steam thing is no big deal..
Also, CEs tend to sell for more on PS3 because of lesser chances of piracy and all. You can even check Amazon for proof.
For playing personally, PC version is the best, although the game constantly crashes (regardless of the platfrom). And for reselling, PS3 i'd go with.
 
Does anyone know how active the modding scene is for the PC version? Also, does the Steam requirement have any impact on the installation/success of mods? Thanks!
 
thanks for the info mrfossy.. wow, steam sounds really dumb for collectors like me. I cant stand DLC or the DRM issues it implies.. though i must admit it sounds like if this is done right then the DRM might not be too bad with this method. It is funny you mention it for getting back into PC gaming though, because im in that position. I have to build a new or buy a new computer here soon and was looking for some new games. As a collector, I really want hard copies though. Even if DRM issues were somehow resolved (which i doubt they are completely, seems like they will always be a friggin issue)

i really have to wonder, what the hell is the point of them putting out a retail copy of a game if it still requires you to go online and d.load the stupid thing? It sounds like people like steam mainly for the ease of d.loading and not caring about a hard copy.. why buy a friggin CE that doesn't have the actual GAME?!

[quote name='XERPENT']More enjoyable on the PC. And the Steam thing is no big deal..
Also, CEs tend to sell for more on PS3 because of lesser chances of piracy and all. You can even check Amazon for proof.
For playing personally, PC version is the best, although the game constantly crashes (regardless of the platfrom). And for reselling, PS3 i'd go with.[/QUOTE]

hmm not really sure what you mean by this.. why would the PS3 version sell better due to piracy? Do you mean vs the 360 or just vs the pc version?
 
[quote name='Kenshindono']thanks for the info mrfossy.. wow, steam sounds really dumb for collectors like me. I cant stand DLC or the DRM issues it implies.. though i must admit it sounds like if this is done right then the DRM might not be too bad with this method. It is funny you mention it for getting back into PC gaming though, because im in that position. I have to build a new or buy a new computer here soon and was looking for some new games. As a collector, I really want hard copies though. Even if DRM issues were somehow resolved (which i doubt they are completely, seems like they will always be a friggin issue)

i really have to wonder, what the hell is the point of them putting out a retail copy of a game if it still requires you to go online and d.load the stupid thing? It sounds like people like steam mainly for the ease of d.loading and not caring about a hard copy.. why buy a friggin CE that doesn't have the actual GAME?!



hmm not really sure what you mean by this.. why would the PS3 version sell better due to piracy? Do you mean vs the 360 or just vs the pc version?[/QUOTE]

Well i read a recent survey somewhere on the internet, and guess what ( :p ) X360 games are pirated much more than PS3 (even after the alleged PS3 Jailbreak). So some people could just download the game illegally and get the CE contents cheaper, or not at all. But the PS3 version, not possible.
 
bump for PC mods! C'mon there has to be at least some CAGs who are playing it with mods! (Although, legitimate copies may be in questions...) What are your favorite mods, and does STEAM affect mod installations/playability in any way? Thanks!
 
PC version all the way. Mods make Bethesda games so much better (Elder Scrolls more so than Fallout, but still).

Also, Steam shouldn't be an issue. I know many PC gamers nowadays (myself included) that would rather own games on Steam than on a disc, even if it's only for the convenience of being able to download games wherever and whenever you want.
 
[quote name='Kenshindono']i really have to wonder, what the hell is the point of them putting out a retail copy of a game if it still requires you to go online and d.load the stupid thing? It sounds like people like steam mainly for the ease of d.loading and not caring about a hard copy.. why buy a friggin CE that doesn't have the actual GAME?!
[/QUOTE]

I own the CE version, and I enjoyed it for the extras, not necessarily the hard copy of the game. I agree that it's redundant to buy a retail copy and then have to download it, but since I knew I wanted the PC version for the better graphics and moddability of it I picked up the CE version. Having to download the game didn't take away from my enjoyment of the chips, DVD, and hardcover book.

[quote name='ragingst0rm6']Does anyone know how active the modding scene is for the PC version? Also, does the Steam requirement have any impact on the installation/success of mods? Thanks![/QUOTE]

It's been a few months since I've played (after logging 120+), but I used the New Vegas Nexus for a lot of mods. The ones I remember enjoying were Nevada Skies, original Mutants retexture (makes the super mutants look more like the ones from FO1 and FO2), some of the weapons retextures, making ED-E have the perk that prevents him for setting off mines (since he, uh, floats) and a few of the realism tweaks.
 
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