Fat People

[quote name='camoor']Weak stomach? Try the pepto dismal (as seen in Scorsese's "Cape Fear")

Pepto Dismal
One shot of the Pink Stuff
One shot of Jim Beam

That'll cure what ails ye.[/QUOTE]

If I started gaining weight again and cutting out other stuff didn't do it then maybe I'd try that. But I like apple juice, and I'd hate to have to live on pills, which is what I'd do if I had to drink coffee, tea, water and diet soda all day. Right now I have no real issue with weight (just a small stomach that can't be seen, as long as I don't wear a tight shirt) and I've gotten comfortable with what I can eat and how much, so there isn't a reason to change at this point (eating 3 meals a day is foreign to me at this point). I was thinking of joining a gym (a local one is running a special for 100 bucks a year, but you can only go thursday-sunday with the cheap version) to bulk up a bit though.
 
[quote name='camoor']For some reason, when you cross the Atlantic suddenly Italian food is loaded up on pasta/bread, the vegatables have been ditched, and it's acceptable for Italian-Americans look more like Mario then Luigi.

[/QUOTE]

I know i'm late to this thread, but this was hilarious.
 
[quote name='Kayden']
But then I really dont give a damn if my distaste for fat people offends you or anyone else. [/QUOTE]

Some people have genetic disorders. For everyone in this world genetics make up what you will weigh how, tall you will be, How much body hair, How long you legs and arms are is all genetics. Saying a fat person is nasty is no worse then making a racist joke or calling someone a honkey or wetback etc.

Yes there is some people who do shove food in the mouths constanlty. Saying they don't have a problem or additcation is like saying that herion addict can quit tomorrow or a smoker can stop at the drop of a hat. Just like everything else It's a problem that some need help with on the other hand some can just stop like with everything else.
 
[quote name='Graystone']Some people have genetic disorders. For everyone in this world genetics make up what you will weigh how, tall you will be, How much body hair, How long you legs and arms are is all genetics. Saying a fat person is nasty is no worse then making a racist joke or calling someone a honkey or wetback etc.

Yes there is some people who do shove food in the mouths constanlty. Saying they don't have a problem or additcation is like saying that herion addict can quit tomorrow or a smoker can stop at the drop of a hat. Just like everything else It's a problem that some need help with on the other hand some can just stop like with everything else.[/QUOTE]

The problem is that there are fat people who don't see it as a problem, they even have fat acceptance groups for goodness sakes! You don't see heroin acceptance groups asking for more pampering on 60 minutes, like that fat lady from the fat society. That lady really summed it up for me - she said that when she goes to the movie theater she wants to have a big seat and feel like she's "pampered" (over 30 and she uses the word "pampered"), these are not the people who make America great, they are the lazy fatbodies who make us the laughing stock of other industrialized nations.

Brought this back so Alonzo doesn't thread jack other discussions with this topic.
 
[quote name='camoor']The problem is that there are fat people who don't see it as a problem, they even have fat acceptance groups for goodness sakes! You don't see heroin acceptance groups asking for more pampering on 60 minutes, like that fat lady from the fat society. That lady really summed it up for me - she said that when she goes to the movie theater she wants to have a big seat and feel like she's "pampered" (over 30 and she uses the word "pampered"), these are not the people who make America great, they are the lazy fatbodies who make us the laughing stock of other industrialized nations.

Brought this back so Alonzo doesn't thread jack other discussions with this topic.[/QUOTE]

There wouldn't have been a comment if you didn't throw fat jokes at every possible opportunity, as I wouldn't have thought twice about it if you didn't always attack overweight people. I made a comment about what you said in that post, that's not thread jacking. If PAD were to make a comment about how disgusting gays were in an argument people would comment, that's all I did. If zion hadn't had an issue with me responding to a comment you made, in the thread you put it in, then the pointless bickering wouldn't have occured.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23'] If zion hadn't had an issue with me responding to a comment you made, in the thread you put it in, then the pointless bickering wouldn't have occured.[/QUOTE]

Actually it was your response to a reply I made.;)
 
To the guy complaining about his fat coworker who falls asleep randomly...

He probably has narcolepsy.

Which gives him a legit reason to avoid working out.

You dont want to be on a treadmill or bench pressing and all the sudden fall asleep.
 
Oh there are plenty of acceptance groups for smokers and drug abusers, drunks especially, they even have meetings every night in neighborhood bars across America. Or even online at one of my favorite internet stops www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com - Packed full of "How to be a Functional Alcoholic" goodness.

But yeah, I agree. At least in concept, if not in practice.

Obesity in this country is outta hand, and it's our lazy ass, fast food driven, gluttonous national conscience that allows this dirty little secret to go ignored by any meaningful national authority. That being said, I wouldn't walk up to anyone and start yelling at them about being fat, no fucking way, life's hard enough on anyone (much less large folks) and trust me, like all addicts, they know all too well that they're doomed.

I can't remember the last time anyone said something to me about smoking in public, but then again, I live in New Jersey, you can smoke in a cancer ward here.
 
[quote name='Cheese']
I can't remember the last time anyone said something to me about smoking in public, but then again, I live in New Jersey, you can smoke in a cancer ward here.[/QUOTE]

I had to do a group project last year, and everyone (but me) in the group smoked. It was ridiculous, every time we went anywhere near a door all 5 would go outside to smoke and talk about the report. One day it was 0 farenheit too. My lungs always hurt after meeting with them.
 
[quote name='Cheese']Oh there are plenty of acceptance groups for smokers and drug abusers, drunks especially, they even have meetings every night in neighborhood bars across America. Or even online at one of my favorite internet stops www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com - Packed full of "How to be a Functional Alcoholic" goodness.[/QUOTE]

That website you linked for "alcohol acceptance groups" looks more like a self-parody. I mean, they are selling "say it loud, say it plowed!" t-shirts.

The scary thing about these fat-acceptance groups is that they take the issue seriously, they go to DC to protest, and they are given face-time with congress. Let me tell you, it's a bad week to go into DC when the fatties are around, it smells like bad beef and there are unexplained tremors happening all over the place. ;)
 
Why verbally attacking fat people is idiotic
http://www.hon.ch/News/HSN/521399.html

While growing up, obese children are forced to run a gamut of psychological barbs and social discriminations. As a result, they suffer low self-esteem, feel inadequate and are looked upon as the source of their own problem.

Every social situation is potentially embarrassing for the child with excess weight. Appearing in gym classes or public swimming pools where they have to wear more revealing clothing becomes a difficult time. Those who decide to play competitive sports often suffer the humiliation of being the last ones chosen for teams. In school, obese children perform poorer academically than their normal weight peers and have lower grade point averages. As young adults, they have more difficulty gaining acceptance into college and securing jobs and future promotions. It is no wonder that over time these childhood experiences lead to poor self esteem and self-confidence. This begins an unfortunate cycle of social isolation, emotional withdrawal, depression, inactivity, more overeating, and further weight gain.
Click to expand...


http://www.kidsgrowth.com/resources/articledetail.cfm?id=82

Poor health practices and poor self-esteem often go hand in hand. A recent literature review by Dr. Leonard Wankel and colleagues, from the University of Alberta, shows that many women have a low self-esteem as a result of poor "body esteem." Dissatisfied with their bodies, some women adopt unhealthy behaviours to achieve a Cindy Crawford or Christy Brinkley figure.

Smoking, for example, is heavily used by some women to control weight. Yet, from a health point of view, a non-smoker would have to be severely obese to suffer the same health consequences as a normal weight smoker.
Click to expand...

http://www.cflri.ca/cflri/tips/94/LT94_05.html

The Protestant ethic, as interpreted by the study, dictates that those who are overweight lack the self-discipline to manage their weight, and therefore deserve any negative outcomes they experience and are to be considered moral failures........ This, in turn, leads to lowered self-esteem.....​

Since the study’s findings indicate that a belief in the Protestant ethic increases overweight women’s vulnerability to psychological distress, Quinn and Crocker suggest that it might also increase their vulnerability to eating disorders. “High levels of endorsement of the Protestant ethic in the overweight may foster unhealthy, disordered attempts to lose weight or maintain low weight, and unreasonable blame and dislike of the self when attempts at weight loss fail,” according to the study.
Click to expand...

http://www.umich.edu/~mrev/archives/1999/3-31-99/pg1.htm

The most common element surrounding ALL Eating Disorders is the inherent presence of a low self esteem

Compulsive Overeating
People suffering with Compulsive Overeating have what is characterized as an "addiction" to food, using food and eating as a way to hide from their emotions, to fill a void they feel inside, and to cope with daily stresses and problems in their lives. People suffering with this Eating Disorder tend to be overweight, are usually aware that their eating habits are abnormal, but find little comfort because of society's tendency to stereotype the "overweight" individual. Words like, "just go on a diet" are as emotionally devestating to a person suffering Compulsive Overeating as "just eat" can be to a person suffering Anorexia. A person suffering as a Compulsive Overeater is at health risk for a heart attack, high blood-pressure and cholesterol, kidney disease and/or failure, arthritis and bone deterioration, and stroke.
Click to expand...

http://www.something-fishy.org/whatarethey/coe.php

Emotional eating or overeating is very common and people who do it are of all weights and sizes. Emotional overeating seems to go hand in hand with low self esteem and is often a factor in binge eating disorder.
  • Binge Eating Disorder (also sometimes referred to as Compulsive Overeating) – Most people who are binge eaters use food to fill an emotional void and may feel an ‘addiction’ to food. They use food to cope with life’s challenges and with their emotional insecurities, although in reality overeating causes guilt, shame and disgust. Frequently, they are overweight and probably suffer from low self esteem.
All in all, if you are a binge eater, food causes you guilt and distress instead of sustenance or comfort. The signs and symptoms of someone with binge eating disorder can be similar to those of bulimia (without the purging) and compulsive overeating, including a feeling of addiction to food, and a need to eat to fill an emotional void.
Click to expand...

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/binge_eating_disorder.htm
 
[quote name='camoor']The problem is that there are fat people who don't see it as a problem, they even have fat acceptance groups for goodness sakes! You don't see heroin acceptance groups asking for more pampering on 60 minutes, like that fat lady from the fat society. That lady really summed it up for me - she said that when she goes to the movie theater she wants to have a big seat and feel like she's "pampered" (over 30 and she uses the word "pampered"), these are not the people who make America great, they are the lazy fatbodies who make us the laughing stock of other industrialized nations.

Brought this back so Alonzo doesn't thread jack other discussions with this topic.[/QUOTE]

It's good that they don't have a problem about being fat. It shows that they have highest self- esteem than most people. I think fat people are cool to hang out with. They're funny.
 
"I think fat people are cool to hang out with. They're funny."

So being fat has a direct influence on personality?

Fat people are just skinny people with slower metabolisms and a bigger appetite.
 
[quote name='LaseK']
Fat people are just skinny people with slower metabolisms and a bigger appetite.[/QUOTE]

So what you are saying is that fat people are actually fat?:shock:
 
[quote name='LaseK']"I think fat people are cool to hang out with. They're funny."

So being fat has a direct influence on personality?

Fat people are just skinny people with slower metabolisms and a bigger appetite.[/QUOTE]

blanket statements about any one segment of the population are tolerated so long as it's positive!:)

"Disabled people aren't victims!"
"Priests and churches help the community!"
"white people are great!"

hmmm...
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']blanket statements about any one segment of the population are tolerated so long as it's positive!:)

"Disabled people aren't victims!"
"Priests and churches help the community!"
"white people are great!"

hmmm...[/QUOTE]

Pretty much, although they're just as untrue as the negative ones. Every time I hear people defined by their race or some other feature they have in common with a group of other people, I remember a quote from Chappelle's Show: "This racism is killing me inside!"

Anyway, as this thread clearly demonstrates, there are a number of people that feel that blanket negative statements about fat people are acceptable and somehow more true than such a statement about another group. Sadly, this is the current state of our society, where fat people are virtually the last group where it is socially acceptable to stereotype and ridicule.
 
I think people have the right to be fat if they want regardless if you think it's disgusting. There's no excuse for it but if they want to be fat just let them be fat.
 
Its a matter that goes beyond their 'right' to totally disreguard their health. There are social/economic factors beyond just them not carring what they look like. What if they have kids? They're impressioning them to gorge until they almost burst. They consume more resources: more food to fill them, more cloth to cover them, two seats on a bus/theatre. If you have to squeeze into a seat next to them, they ooze on you. Harder on gas mileage; produce more wear on the car in general. Then theres also health hazards. Being severely over weight greatly increases your chances of numerous diseases/conditions. Resources have to be wasted on people that ate themselves into heart attacks or diabetes. Additionally, what if they have a heart attack or diabetic shock whilest doing something important/dangerous like opperating a crane, driving or flying a plane. There they are just choosing to be unhealthy, but they're spreading the risk for everyone involved with them.

Granted, some of this is a bit extreme, but still plausible.


[quote name='steveinneed']I think people have the right to be fat if they want regardless if you think it's disgusting. There's no excuse for it but if they want to be fat just let them be fat.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='Kayden']Its a matter that goes beyond their 'right' to totally disreguard their health. There are social/economic factors beyond just them not carring what they look like. What if they have kids? They're impressioning them to gorge until they almost burst. They consume more resources: more food to fill them, more cloth to cover them, two seats on a bus/theatre. If you have to squeeze into a seat next to them, they ooze on you. Harder on gas mileage; produce more wear on the car in general. Then theres also health hazards. Being severely over weight greatly increases your chances of numerous diseases/conditions. Resources have to be wasted on people that ate themselves into heart attacks or diabetes. Additionally, what if they have a heart attack or diabetic shock whilest doing something important/dangerous like opperating a crane, driving or flying a plane. There they are just choosing to be unhealthy, but they're spreading the risk for everyone involved with them.

Granted, some of this is a bit extreme, but still plausible.[/QUOTE]
Most of that post (if not all) can also be applied to people who drink and people who smoke. And on the kids comment: I'd much rather have mentally-healthy fat people having kids than beautiful mental cases.
 
[quote name='steveinneed']I think people have the right to be fat if they want regardless if you think it's disgusting. There's no excuse for it but if they want to be fat just let them be fat.[/QUOTE]

Fat people effect everyone indirectly. It could be the high medical costs or sitting next to them on an airplane. We are all affected in some way or another.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I think people choose to be fat about as often as they choose to be alcoholics.[/QUOTE]
The choice lies in their apathy to do anything about their condition or state.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']The choice lies in their apathy to do anything about their condition or state.[/QUOTE]

Well, I think its a lot more complex than that, and I think if it was just apathy then those who do try would have a much higher success rate. But I'm going to just hope this thread dies and stay out of it from now though. I've already explained why I think its a lot more complex than that though before this thread was resurrected.
 
Very valid point. However, is being an alcoholic socially acceptable? Don't alcoholics usually seek help? Can't you be arrested for being drunk in public? :lol:


[quote name='alonzomourning23']I think people choose to be fat about as often as they choose to be alcoholics.[/QUOTE]
 
Like being so ungodly repulsive that people shriek when they see you thereby swerving into oncoming traffic as a result of the temporary blindness your hiddeous visage bistowed upon them? :roll:

Being ugly doesn't have any kind of side effect for your health; you may be unpopular, but I've known a lot of ugly people with friends. Its not like being ugly is going to give you cancer. Additionally, you're pretty much born ugly. You cant work out more or eat less to look beautiful.
 
[quote name='Kayden']Its a matter that goes beyond their 'right' to totally disreguard their health. There are social/economic factors beyond just them not carring what they look like. What if they have kids? They're impressioning them to gorge until they almost burst. They consume more resources: more food to fill them, more cloth to cover them, two seats on a bus/theatre. If you have to squeeze into a seat next to them, they ooze on you. Harder on gas mileage; produce more wear on the car in general. Then theres also health hazards. Being severely over weight greatly increases your chances of numerous diseases/conditions. Resources have to be wasted on people that ate themselves into heart attacks or diabetes. Additionally, what if they have a heart attack or diabetic shock whilest doing something important/dangerous like opperating a crane, driving or flying a plane. There they are just choosing to be unhealthy, but they're spreading the risk for everyone involved with them.

Granted, some of this is a bit extreme, but still plausible.[/QUOTE]

Excellent post. I don't want to pay for someone's inablility to discipline theirself. We should be taxing the heck out of fast food, junk food, and icecream.
 
[quote name='steveinneed']What about people that are mentally ill?[/QUOTE]

If there is an industry that promotes the advancement of mental illness, we should eradicate it. I am not suggesting we eradicate companies that serve fast food because their edible product can be enjoyed sparingly. However we should tax them appropriately to pay for the health problems they incur.

In addition to being subject to a very high taxation rate, casinos are forced to stop addicted gamblers from playing and bars are supposed to stop serving alcoholics and people who have imbibed too much. I'm not even suggesting something remotely close for fast food. Fast food companies should just have to pay their fair share, a higher taxation rate on their product, to pay for the massive coronaries and other health problems that their product causes.
 
[quote name='steveinneed']lol wtf...wow what is up with you?[/QUOTE]
3 billion turkey's lives ended on August 29th, 1998. The survivors of the roast called it Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against John Travolta. The company which produced the film, Paramount, sent two actors back through time. Their mission: to destroy the leader of the fatties, John Travolta, my coworker. The first actor was Jamie Lee Curtis, sent to strike at him in the year 1984, when John got his first big film break. It failed. The second was set to strike at John himself when he was still a child. As before, the resistance was able to send a lone warrior, a protector for John. It was just a question of which one of them would reach him first.
 
[quote name='I AM WILLIAM H. MACY']3 billion turkey's lives ended on August 29th, 1998. The survivors of the roast called it Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against John Travolta. The company which produced the film, Paramount, sent two actors back through time. Their mission: to destroy the leader of the fatties, John Travolta, my coworker. The first actor was Jamie Lee Curtis, sent to strike at him in the year 1984, when John got his first big film break. It failed. The second was set to strike at John himself when he was still a child. As before, the resistance was able to send a lone warrior, a protector for John. It was just a question of which one of them would reach him first.[/QUOTE]

lol, that is some crazy funny stuff
 
The worst thing is fat guys all seem to have small cocks. They could have a 14 inch long cock and it would look small because their fat covers it.
 
it would be interesting to see everyone post their height/weight/waist information in here with the thread.

btw i know its not a definning stat of being fat, Im 5'9 180 btw.

For the most part, people who want to lose weight can. I used to be 205 lbs with a 33'inch waist. I wasn't fat just a little chunky, but when i wanted to slim down i hit the tread mill and played some DDR all the time. In 3 months i droped 25 lbs.

People who have joint problems etc, can swim or get on a stationary bike. Small changes can make a big difference. The soda reference earlier is a good example. If a person is drinking several sodas (non diet) each day, that person can lose several lbs each week just by changing to low cal drinks.

On the other hand, if people are fat and want to be that way, than thats their life. As long as they keep it to them and don't request special needs.

Think of it this way, thats generally less people to crowd up the basketball court, the slopes, etc. And in the business world where looks can play a factor, a in shape person is more likly to be chosen for a upper lvl position.


this is my friend Lianne, she has a tyroid condition. She works out 2 hours a day and only intakes about 1400 calories. She doesnt feel the need to, but thats the type of body she wants so she works hard for it.

n2022650_31586833_9930.jpg
 
In all honesty, how many adults have the time to work out two hours a day? I don't know many working people with families who can do that.

Also, if someone was raised in an environment where proper dieting was not taught (meaning their tastes do not really fit with healthy foods or they weren't taught to control eating), how many will be able to do that as an adult? I think a person who has the willpower to do both those things, eating 1400 calories and 2 hour exercise, is rare due to willpower and available time. It's also much easier when you actually like healthy things, as many people do not.
 
I don't like fat women. Don't feel like a jerk for this since they've pretty much done this to themselves. I'm not the skinniest guy myself though, 5'11, 190.
 
Oh man, I walked in the cubicle of the fat guy at work and there were diabetes needle caps all over the floor. The guy can't even bother to throw them in the trash. Unbelievable.
 
I've skimmed most of this thread, and have yet to notice the mention of growth hormones, steroids, or whatever the hell else is put into american livestock. These hormones are the real cause of obesity in this country. I can say that based on personal experience. 6" 250 then go to Iran on vacation and do not change diet and lost 40lbs over the summer. I like to think I'm being honest when I say that I am big, but I'm not a lard ass that sweats or smells. Personally I like being big, I wouldn't mind being 250lbs of muscle (but I'm not gonna take supplements or roids). Also, society today is based on the 2 min microwave meal that is again composed of chemicals. I really believe that if the US standards were brought up to euro code alot of obesity would decline. There is an entire organic fad growing, but it won't help anything IMO. All in all its just a matter of one's personal confidence, If your happy with yourself then who gives a fuck.
 
Someone else being fat doesn't affect me one bit.

No more an assault on my eyes as some young punk that doesn't know the ass in his jeans is supposed to be on his actual ass and not the back of his knees. Or the lady that wears skintight clothes and short skirts... that were meant for a woman half her size.

I just don't look at them if I don't like their appearance. I certainly don't berate them, offend them, or treat them as second class citizens just because I don't happen to like the way they look.

People need to mind their own gd business.
 
As a mattter a fact.. I check out fat people just as much as i would check out a hot chick..

Yeah they are gross but i cant stop myself from talking shit to them in my mind.
 
Wow, what an elitist piece of shit. He himself is overweight, yet he has no problem berating others. Maybe he should lose some weight himself before telling others to do so.
 
[quote name='DuckM4n']Everyone has a right to eat as much as they want as long as they can afford it, and be any size they want.[/quote]

Hospitals are supported by government and health insurance money which means that we all pay extra for the care of fat people.

If you want to enact a sufficiently high fatty foods tax, then it's a fair system. Otherwise, honest and hard-working Americans shouldn't be forced to pay for the third time that a fat person on welfare goes to the emergency room to get their arteries pumped clear of McShake goo and bacon grease.
 
Everytime I read one of your posts I imagine this scrawny kid frothing at the mouth.

[quote name='DuckM4n']Everyone has a right to eat as much as they want as long as they can afford it, and be any size they want.[/quote]

The whole point is though, how many actually want to be fat? Then there's the issue of people not even understanding the dangers of obesity and which foods are unhealthy and to what extent. For example, salmon is healthier than steak but if you compare fried salmon to steak people often still assume the fried salmon is better. Or people may not think of fried vegetables (ie. fried eggplant, mushrooms etc.) as being that unhealthy.

edit: I somehow butchered my post after the original posting
 
[quote name='camoor']Hospitals are supported by government and health insurance money which means that we all pay extra for the care of fat people.

If you want to enact a sufficiently high fatty foods tax, then it's a fair system. Otherwise, honest and hard-working Americans shouldn't be forced to pay for the third time that a fat person on welfare goes to the emergency room to get their arteries pumped clear of McShake goo and bacon grease.[/QUOTE]

Your problem should be with the gov't money being involved in health care. Since gov't isn't a business looking to make profits, it allows high risk people to load the system with costly medical necessities at the expense of normal and low risk people.

Health insurance companies that are private are more than able to recoup their costs by charging higher premiums to "at risk" peoples. Same way a young person pays exponentially more for car insurance than a 45 year old (assuming both have same histories of no accidents or tickets). The younger person pays more simply because the insurance company goes by statistics that show younger people on average are in more accidents and get more tickets due to inexperience and youthful stupidity.

Health insurance can do the same with smokers, fatties, motorcycle riders etc.

When the free market is left alone from gov't interference- it's amazing how it takes care of problems like these (other people's high risk behavior costing the entire group) with little difficulty.
 
Then again, there is more than 1 way to fry something. Ofcourse, if you fry everything in a cup of lard its not going to be the healthiest. I tend to fry things in hard liquor, much healthier. :lol:

[quote name='alonzomourning23']Everytime I read one of your posts I imagine this scrawny kid frothing at the mouth.



The whole point is though, how many actually want to be fat? Then there's the issue of people not even understanding the dangers of obesity and which foods are unhealthy and to what extent. For often still assume the fried salmon is better. Or people may not think of fried vegetables (ie. fried eggplant, mushrooms etc.) as being that unhealthy.[/quote]
 
[quote name='penmyst']Your problem should be with the gov't money being involved in health care. Since gov't isn't a business looking to make profits, it allows high risk people to load the system with costly medical necessities at the expense of normal and low risk people.

Health insurance companies that are private are more than able to recoup their costs by charging higher premiums to "at risk" peoples. Same way a young person pays exponentially more for car insurance than a 45 year old (assuming both have same histories of no accidents or tickets). The younger person pays more simply because the insurance company goes by statistics that show younger people on average are in more accidents and get more tickets due to inexperience and youthful stupidity.

Health insurance can do the same with smokers, fatties, motorcycle riders etc.

When the free market is left alone from gov't interference- it's amazing how it takes care of problems like these (other people's high risk behavior costing the entire group) with little difficulty.[/quote]

The fact is that you can't turn away emergency room patients until you've verified their credit cards aren't maxed out and they have current coverage under their health insurance. It even benefits society as a whole to give health coverage at a subsidized cost to poor people, because leaving an untreated segment of society means that you have a group of people breeding and spreading bacteria, viruses, and other forms of desease.

Now, letting anybody sue hospitals with nonsense claims, having hospital coverups and shuffling of bad doctors, and refusing to modernize health records with technology are all problems that must be ironed out.

Yet making people with a car get car insurance (or pay a fine), but letting them stroll around without health insurance (potentially makine me sick), is a pretty ridiculous situation.

I think you're on to something with making fat ppl pay extra though - I just think you need to clarify that people with gland and other medical problems that are out of their control would be excluded. I think smokers have to pay extra, it's time the buffet barons and weak willed wonders pay their fair share.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
bread's done
Back
Top