The online is really horrid lots of gameshark users/ codebreaker online its not even funny. Then its choppy and dont say its my connect because I got a 3mb bb connection. If they gonna make PS3 like this for online they should just drop the online and just focus on the offline. Man PS2 online is pathetic.
Finally found out about the ps2 online
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[quote name='Sojeph']The online is really horrid lots of gameshark users/ codebreaker online its not even funny. Then its choppy and dont say its my connect because I got a 3mb bb connection. If they gonna make PS3 like this for online they should just drop the online and just focus on the offline. Man PS2 online is pathetic.[/quote]
It depends some on what game your playing you know. I've only experienced the choppyness once to be honest, but I'll agree alot of the games do have a serious problem with cheaters.
It depends some on what game your playing you know. I've only experienced the choppyness once to be honest, but I'll agree alot of the games do have a serious problem with cheaters.
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what games are you guys talking about? cause the only games I see cheaters in, are the ones that dont use sony's DNAS.
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i use my ps2 online all the time and the only game that has alot of cheaters is socom1 and the reason alot of games lag has nothing to do with your connection it has more to do with ps2 not being fast enough. Plus its free, so if you find it that bad dont go online and why waste your time making a thread about it, like its gonna magically change
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[quote name='Rig']I have never got my PSTwo online, but I have heard it is pretty bad...[/quote]
From what I've experienced DNAS works great. I haven't seen a full-blown cheater online since DNAS was introduced. Maybe I was playing the wrong/right games, but SOCOM 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, SSX 3, and Killzone didn't have any cheaters the last time I played them online. If you got an internet connection (more over broadband), do yourself a favor and hook up your PS2. I'd definitely have to say that the best thing to do is take the OP with a grain of salt. I certainly can't vouch for him.
From what I've experienced DNAS works great. I haven't seen a full-blown cheater online since DNAS was introduced. Maybe I was playing the wrong/right games, but SOCOM 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, SSX 3, and Killzone didn't have any cheaters the last time I played them online. If you got an internet connection (more over broadband), do yourself a favor and hook up your PS2. I'd definitely have to say that the best thing to do is take the OP with a grain of salt. I certainly can't vouch for him.
[quote name='PHaLaNX GTR'][quote name='Rig']I have never got my PSTwo online, but I have heard it is pretty bad...[/quote]
From what I've experienced DNAS works great. I haven't seen a full-blown cheater online since DNAS was introduced. Maybe I was playing the wrong/right games, but SOCOM 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, SSX 3, and Killzone didn't have any cheaters the last time I played them online. If you got an internet connection (more over broadband), do yourself a favor and hook up your PS2. I'd definitely have to say that the best thing to do is take the OP with a grain of salt. I certainly can't vouch for him.[/quote]
Hmmm. I guess it's just my laziness. I have XBL, but to get it I had to install a PCI ethernet card into my computer. Wasn't much work, but I just haven't wanted to put another one in for my PSTwo. I might just have to get one put in and test it out...
From what I've experienced DNAS works great. I haven't seen a full-blown cheater online since DNAS was introduced. Maybe I was playing the wrong/right games, but SOCOM 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, SSX 3, and Killzone didn't have any cheaters the last time I played them online. If you got an internet connection (more over broadband), do yourself a favor and hook up your PS2. I'd definitely have to say that the best thing to do is take the OP with a grain of salt. I certainly can't vouch for him.[/quote]
Hmmm. I guess it's just my laziness. I have XBL, but to get it I had to install a PCI ethernet card into my computer. Wasn't much work, but I just haven't wanted to put another one in for my PSTwo. I might just have to get one put in and test it out...
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You know ranting about online play is fine, but it would be a lot better if you like..MENTION THE GAME YOUR PLAYING!. Just a thought. I've played tons of games online on my PS2, and I have had almost no issues, and as for cheating, your ALWAYS going to find cheaters online but becasue your getting your ass handed to you doesn't mean EVERYONE is cheating (FYI not trying to say you sucK).
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I love it whenever I play online and kick some noob's ass fair and square, only to hear whines and cries of "you cheat! You use hack!" right before they disconnect. 
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I have had problems with socom 2 online a few times, never with monster hunter though it plays amazingly smooth.
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Ps2 online gaming is incredible!!!
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.
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well said...ps2 online is garbage
well said...ps2 online is garbage
[quote name='Mook Williams']Ps2 online gaming is incredible!!!
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.[/quote]
Wow, you're insane.
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.[/quote]
Wow, you're insane.
Mook Williams
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[quote name='zewone'][quote name='Mook Williams']Ps2 online gaming is incredible!!!
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.[/quote]
Wow, you're insane.[/quote]
Uhhhhh . . . no I'm not. I actually play PS2 online, and I won't play any PS2 game that isn't online aside from GTA.
I'm a 28yo attorney, have limited time, and could have XBOX if I wanted to. However, I go with what I perceive to be as the superior online product. PS2 online is far better than XBOX for sports games, my favorite genre. SSX3 is flawless online, as well, and SOCOM II is solid.
Now go run and watch some anime or play some RPGs.
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.[/quote]
Wow, you're insane.[/quote]
Uhhhhh . . . no I'm not. I actually play PS2 online, and I won't play any PS2 game that isn't online aside from GTA.
I'm a 28yo attorney, have limited time, and could have XBOX if I wanted to. However, I go with what I perceive to be as the superior online product. PS2 online is far better than XBOX for sports games, my favorite genre. SSX3 is flawless online, as well, and SOCOM II is solid.
Now go run and watch some anime or play some RPGs.
Mook Williams
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And MookyJooky . . . did you not read what I wrote . . . that's 20,000 - 30,000 players on SOCOM II each night. Plus another 2,000 international users per night.
Does Halo 2 even come close to that?
I think not.
I just wanted to sweep up some fanboy nonsense. Grow up, fellas.
Does Halo 2 even come close to that?
I think not.
I just wanted to sweep up some fanboy nonsense. Grow up, fellas.
[quote name='Mook Williams'][quote name='zewone'][quote name='Mook Williams']Ps2 online gaming is incredible!!!
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.[/quote]
Wow, you're insane.[/quote]
Uhhhhh . . . no I'm not. I actually play PS2 online, and I won't play any PS2 game that isn't online aside from GTA.
I'm a 28yo attorney, have limited time, and could have XBOX if I wanted to. However, I go with what I perceive to be as the superior online product. PS2 online is far better than XBOX for sports games, my favorite genre. SSX3 is flawless online, as well, and SOCOM II is solid.[/quote]
Okay man its just that you pay for a better service. If Xbox Live was free it would be crappy just like PS2 online. The ESPN games play much better on Live and there is many more online games on Xbox.
[quote name='Mook Williams']Now go run and watch some anime or play some RPGs.[/quote]
Thanks for the great advice.
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.[/quote]
Wow, you're insane.[/quote]
Uhhhhh . . . no I'm not. I actually play PS2 online, and I won't play any PS2 game that isn't online aside from GTA.
I'm a 28yo attorney, have limited time, and could have XBOX if I wanted to. However, I go with what I perceive to be as the superior online product. PS2 online is far better than XBOX for sports games, my favorite genre. SSX3 is flawless online, as well, and SOCOM II is solid.[/quote]
Okay man its just that you pay for a better service. If Xbox Live was free it would be crappy just like PS2 online. The ESPN games play much better on Live and there is many more online games on Xbox.
[quote name='Mook Williams']Now go run and watch some anime or play some RPGs.[/quote]
Thanks for the great advice.
Mook Williams
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Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.
[quote name='Mook Williams']
Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.[/quote]
Alright, but how about the headache PS2 users have when they need to make a new username for every game and set up different connections for different games which then need to be stored on a small 8MB card? Also what about voice capabilites not been implemented into EVERY online game like Xbox? That must cause a headache. I know this because I to use the PS2 online when I have to.
Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.[/quote]
Alright, but how about the headache PS2 users have when they need to make a new username for every game and set up different connections for different games which then need to be stored on a small 8MB card? Also what about voice capabilites not been implemented into EVERY online game like Xbox? That must cause a headache. I know this because I to use the PS2 online when I have to.
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[quote name='zewone'][quote name='Mook Williams']
Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.[/quote]
Alright, but how about the headache PS2 users have when they need to make a new username for every game and set up different connections for different games which then need to be stored on a small 8MB card? Also what about voice capabilites not been implemented into EVERY online game like Xbox? That must cause a headache. I know this because I to use the PS2 online when I have to.[/quote]
There are advantages and disadvantages to both, and you just listed some advantages for the XBOX (you can purchase a PS2 HDD if you want - I won't). However, that very streamlined process is what creates tons of problems for ESPN and EA online games, and takes things like ESPN offline roster updates, and delays them for release 2+ weeks after the same rosters are available on the PS2!
I'm much, much more in favor of the PS2 way of doing things . . . leave the total control and freedom in the hands of the developers. Allow rapid improvement and changes, without the need for approval from MS. Sure, sometimes you gotta deal with a clown using dial-up, or sometime the developer has poor support for its online games (see the 2K4 line of games on PS2), but my experience has been that PS2 online works great most of the time.
To bash it on here, and say that it sucks, is short-sighted. Also, to say that no one is online for the PS2 is pretty inaccurate. Name me any other console game, on any system, that gets as much consistent traffic as SOCOM II, over a year after it's release, no less! That's impressive. Obviously, Sony is doing SOMETHING right there, to still bring 20,000-30,000 users online each and every night.
I think that online play is pretty damned good for both consoles, but I personally favor PS2. I remember when I dreamed of online console play many years ago, so to have it at all, honestly, is a tremendous gift to us gamers.
Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.[/quote]
Alright, but how about the headache PS2 users have when they need to make a new username for every game and set up different connections for different games which then need to be stored on a small 8MB card? Also what about voice capabilites not been implemented into EVERY online game like Xbox? That must cause a headache. I know this because I to use the PS2 online when I have to.[/quote]
There are advantages and disadvantages to both, and you just listed some advantages for the XBOX (you can purchase a PS2 HDD if you want - I won't). However, that very streamlined process is what creates tons of problems for ESPN and EA online games, and takes things like ESPN offline roster updates, and delays them for release 2+ weeks after the same rosters are available on the PS2!
I'm much, much more in favor of the PS2 way of doing things . . . leave the total control and freedom in the hands of the developers. Allow rapid improvement and changes, without the need for approval from MS. Sure, sometimes you gotta deal with a clown using dial-up, or sometime the developer has poor support for its online games (see the 2K4 line of games on PS2), but my experience has been that PS2 online works great most of the time.
To bash it on here, and say that it sucks, is short-sighted. Also, to say that no one is online for the PS2 is pretty inaccurate. Name me any other console game, on any system, that gets as much consistent traffic as SOCOM II, over a year after it's release, no less! That's impressive. Obviously, Sony is doing SOMETHING right there, to still bring 20,000-30,000 users online each and every night.
I think that online play is pretty damned good for both consoles, but I personally favor PS2. I remember when I dreamed of online console play many years ago, so to have it at all, honestly, is a tremendous gift to us gamers.
[quote name='Mook Williams'][quote name='zewone'][quote name='Mook Williams']
Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.[/quote]
Alright, but how about the headache PS2 users have when they need to make a new username for every game and set up different connections for different games which then need to be stored on a small 8MB card? Also what about voice capabilites not been implemented into EVERY online game like Xbox? That must cause a headache. I know this because I to use the PS2 online when I have to.[/quote]
There are advantages and disadvantages to both, and you just listed some advantages for the XBOX (you can purchase a PS2 HDD if you want - I won't). However, that very streamlined process is what creates tons of problems for ESPN and EA online games, and takes things like ESPN offline roster updates, and delays them for release 2+ weeks after the same rosters are available on the PS2!
I'm much, much more in favor of the PS2 way of doing things . . . leave the total control and freedom in the hands of the developers. Allow rapid improvement and changes, without the need for approval from MS. Sure, sometimes you gotta deal with a clown using dial-up, or sometime the developer has poor support for its online games (see the 2K4 line of games on PS2), but my experience has been that PS2 online works great most of the time.
To bash it on here, and say that it sucks, is short-sighted. Also, to say that no one is online for the PS2 is pretty inaccurate. Name me any other console game, on any system, that gets as much consistent traffic as SOCOM II, over a year after it's release, no less! That's impressive. Obviously, Sony is doing SOMETHING right there, to still bring 20,000-30,000 users online each and every night.
I think that online play is pretty damned good for both consoles, but I personally favor PS2. I remember when I dreamed of online console play many years ago, so to have it at all, honestly, is a tremendous gift to us gamers.[/quote]
I believe that Socom 2 has so many users still is because its the best shooter on the PS2 plus PS2 owners don't have as many options for quality online games. But instead of us continuing our argument, how about we agree to disagree? I hope there is no hard feelings and that you have a great day.
Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.[/quote]
Alright, but how about the headache PS2 users have when they need to make a new username for every game and set up different connections for different games which then need to be stored on a small 8MB card? Also what about voice capabilites not been implemented into EVERY online game like Xbox? That must cause a headache. I know this because I to use the PS2 online when I have to.[/quote]
There are advantages and disadvantages to both, and you just listed some advantages for the XBOX (you can purchase a PS2 HDD if you want - I won't). However, that very streamlined process is what creates tons of problems for ESPN and EA online games, and takes things like ESPN offline roster updates, and delays them for release 2+ weeks after the same rosters are available on the PS2!
I'm much, much more in favor of the PS2 way of doing things . . . leave the total control and freedom in the hands of the developers. Allow rapid improvement and changes, without the need for approval from MS. Sure, sometimes you gotta deal with a clown using dial-up, or sometime the developer has poor support for its online games (see the 2K4 line of games on PS2), but my experience has been that PS2 online works great most of the time.
To bash it on here, and say that it sucks, is short-sighted. Also, to say that no one is online for the PS2 is pretty inaccurate. Name me any other console game, on any system, that gets as much consistent traffic as SOCOM II, over a year after it's release, no less! That's impressive. Obviously, Sony is doing SOMETHING right there, to still bring 20,000-30,000 users online each and every night.
I think that online play is pretty damned good for both consoles, but I personally favor PS2. I remember when I dreamed of online console play many years ago, so to have it at all, honestly, is a tremendous gift to us gamers.[/quote]
I believe that Socom 2 has so many users still is because its the best shooter on the PS2 plus PS2 owners don't have as many options for quality online games. But instead of us continuing our argument, how about we agree to disagree? I hope there is no hard feelings and that you have a great day.
Mook Williams
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Peace.
Hard feelings over a debate involving video games? No way, man, that's silly! Have a good one.
Hard feelings over a debate involving video games? No way, man, that's silly! Have a good one.
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[quote name='Mook Williams'][quote name='zewone'][quote name='Mook Williams']
Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.[/quote]
Alright, but how about the headache PS2 users have when they need to make a new username for every game and set up different connections for different games which then need to be stored on a small 8MB card? Also what about voice capabilites not been implemented into EVERY online game like Xbox? That must cause a headache. I know this because I to use the PS2 online when I have to.[/quote]
There are advantages and disadvantages to both, and you just listed some advantages for the XBOX (you can purchase a PS2 HDD if you want - I won't). However, that very streamlined process is what creates tons of problems for ESPN and EA online games, and takes things like ESPN offline roster updates, and delays them for release 2+ weeks after the same rosters are available on the PS2!
I'm much, much more in favor of the PS2 way of doing things . . . leave the total control and freedom in the hands of the developers. Allow rapid improvement and changes, without the need for approval from MS. Sure, sometimes you gotta deal with a clown using dial-up, or sometime the developer has poor support for its online games (see the 2K4 line of games on PS2), but my experience has been that PS2 online works great most of the time.
To bash it on here, and say that it sucks, is short-sighted. Also, to say that no one is online for the PS2 is pretty inaccurate. Name me any other console game, on any system, that gets as much consistent traffic as SOCOM II, over a year after it's release, no less! That's impressive. Obviously, Sony is doing SOMETHING right there, to still bring 20,000-30,000 users online each and every night.
I think that online play is pretty damned good for both consoles, but I personally favor PS2. I remember when I dreamed of online console play many years ago, so to have it at all, honestly, is a tremendous gift to us gamers.[/quote]
Are you
ing kidding me? OK, if the developers are allowed such rapid improvement and changes, then why don't they have mic capability in all their games? Why don't they have such an accurate and up-to-date friends list on every game that Xbox Live has in every game? Where's the possibility to send voice messages that you're able to listen to in the pause screen of your game?
I'm not totally bashing the PS2 online, but Xbox Live is the clear winner. The majority of gamers and developers have already accepted this, but I guess you're in the small population that still thinks Sony is competing in the online area of gaming. Now I ask you, have you ever tried out Xbox Live? I used to game on Socom 2 A LOT and everytime I heard someone bashing Xbox Live, they didn't know shit about it. They hadn't tried it, and a lot of times, they didn't even know the price--yet, they bash Live by saying it costs to much and so on. I think the rest of the people that think PS2 online is better than Xbox Live haven't fully experience Live. Which is a sad, sad thing.
Uhhhh . . . excuse me, but you're dead, DEAD wrong. I am a commissioner of one of the most hardcore ESPN NFL2K5 leagues around . . . I monitor the conneciton stability and technical issues of the 2 consoles very closely. PS2 online so outpaces XBOX online with NFL2K5, and other ESPN games in general, that it's not even funny.
You see, MS imposes all sorts of annoying standards and regulations on their online play . . . tripping up the wonderful post-release improvements that VC implements. There was also a tag identification problem for the XBOX users, resulting in a higher likelihood of misery for XBOXers. Meanwhile, PS2 online play is flawless, without lag, for 95% of the time on this generation of ESPN games.
So, you're wrong as to ESPN games . . . you've got it opposite. A shame that the XBOXers had to pay for that headache, too.[/quote]
Alright, but how about the headache PS2 users have when they need to make a new username for every game and set up different connections for different games which then need to be stored on a small 8MB card? Also what about voice capabilites not been implemented into EVERY online game like Xbox? That must cause a headache. I know this because I to use the PS2 online when I have to.[/quote]
There are advantages and disadvantages to both, and you just listed some advantages for the XBOX (you can purchase a PS2 HDD if you want - I won't). However, that very streamlined process is what creates tons of problems for ESPN and EA online games, and takes things like ESPN offline roster updates, and delays them for release 2+ weeks after the same rosters are available on the PS2!
I'm much, much more in favor of the PS2 way of doing things . . . leave the total control and freedom in the hands of the developers. Allow rapid improvement and changes, without the need for approval from MS. Sure, sometimes you gotta deal with a clown using dial-up, or sometime the developer has poor support for its online games (see the 2K4 line of games on PS2), but my experience has been that PS2 online works great most of the time.
To bash it on here, and say that it sucks, is short-sighted. Also, to say that no one is online for the PS2 is pretty inaccurate. Name me any other console game, on any system, that gets as much consistent traffic as SOCOM II, over a year after it's release, no less! That's impressive. Obviously, Sony is doing SOMETHING right there, to still bring 20,000-30,000 users online each and every night.
I think that online play is pretty damned good for both consoles, but I personally favor PS2. I remember when I dreamed of online console play many years ago, so to have it at all, honestly, is a tremendous gift to us gamers.[/quote]
Are you
ing kidding me? OK, if the developers are allowed such rapid improvement and changes, then why don't they have mic capability in all their games? Why don't they have such an accurate and up-to-date friends list on every game that Xbox Live has in every game? Where's the possibility to send voice messages that you're able to listen to in the pause screen of your game? I'm not totally bashing the PS2 online, but Xbox Live is the clear winner. The majority of gamers and developers have already accepted this, but I guess you're in the small population that still thinks Sony is competing in the online area of gaming. Now I ask you, have you ever tried out Xbox Live? I used to game on Socom 2 A LOT and everytime I heard someone bashing Xbox Live, they didn't know shit about it. They hadn't tried it, and a lot of times, they didn't even know the price--yet, they bash Live by saying it costs to much and so on. I think the rest of the people that think PS2 online is better than Xbox Live haven't fully experience Live. Which is a sad, sad thing.
What gets me is that you people who say "oh ps2 got 20,000 -30,000 maybe 4,000 more users." What ever you smokin gimme some of that stuff because that number is just for one game. If you combine all the halo 2 and the tremendous library of xbox live enabled games with full headset support. I think it adds a heck of alot more than that number of players online for the ps2 with its lack of online games w/o headset support. Oh and where are the great fighting games that ps2 has that are not online? There is no excuse for that kind of lack of support. Wrestlemania 21 for xbox looks extremely promising for competition and fueds on xbox live compared to smackdown vs raw which they had how many tries to make it right? Way too many if you ask me to still not get it right. I also noticed Sony sure likes to milk a game not 2-3 times alot more than I can count and thats for alot of their games thats how they have the big library rehash of the same game every year.
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Sorry guys, sorry to burst your bubbles, but your opinions represent a very, very small minority of the gaming population. You guys are hardcore gamers. I am one, too. However, the rest of my friends are not. They love gaming, but are not very hardcore. We range in age from mid-20s to mid-30s. We all have professions, most are married, some have children. We are from all around the country, and are mostly well educated.
I can tell you that to a man, not a single one of us would ever contemplate choosing XBOX for its online capacities over PS2. Why? Well, having to pay extra for Live just doesn't strike us right. PS2 online has very good quality most of the time, and it's free! Furthermore, sports gaming (which is our favorite genre) is clearly superior online on the PS2. Check the latest season of EA and ESPN games . . . stability is far superior on the PS2. We don't care about dorky crap like universal friends lists or having the same user name. Hell, I LIKE having different user names, depending on the genre. IT only takes me 2 minutes to get another one, so it's not a big deal.
There are many other reasons why the XBOX doesn't draw a thought from any of us, but as for online gaming, we strongly favor PS2. It gives us what we need efficiently and without additional cost. I wouldn't tolerate the crap that sports gamers have to put up with on XBOX - extra lag and other additional headaches with the ESPN games. No way, sorry.
So, why many of the XBOX heads on hardcore forums like this pat themselves on the back . . . they should realize that they are an extreme minority, and that the general gaming public prefers PS2 online and offline. Sure, not all of the PS2 development houses are good in implementing online play, but I'll take that as a trade off for not having to pay any extra money, and for being online with the console that every one in my group of friends, stretching from FLA to CAL to Quebec, has and plays on.
I can tell you that to a man, not a single one of us would ever contemplate choosing XBOX for its online capacities over PS2. Why? Well, having to pay extra for Live just doesn't strike us right. PS2 online has very good quality most of the time, and it's free! Furthermore, sports gaming (which is our favorite genre) is clearly superior online on the PS2. Check the latest season of EA and ESPN games . . . stability is far superior on the PS2. We don't care about dorky crap like universal friends lists or having the same user name. Hell, I LIKE having different user names, depending on the genre. IT only takes me 2 minutes to get another one, so it's not a big deal.
There are many other reasons why the XBOX doesn't draw a thought from any of us, but as for online gaming, we strongly favor PS2. It gives us what we need efficiently and without additional cost. I wouldn't tolerate the crap that sports gamers have to put up with on XBOX - extra lag and other additional headaches with the ESPN games. No way, sorry.
So, why many of the XBOX heads on hardcore forums like this pat themselves on the back . . . they should realize that they are an extreme minority, and that the general gaming public prefers PS2 online and offline. Sure, not all of the PS2 development houses are good in implementing online play, but I'll take that as a trade off for not having to pay any extra money, and for being online with the console that every one in my group of friends, stretching from FLA to CAL to Quebec, has and plays on.
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Well said, Mook Williams. They both have their plus and minuses. However, I believe structural-wise the Live system is better than the standard structure that PS2 online uses. Yup, that's right. PS2 online is a standard-type online experience, while Xbox Live is above average. I'd go as far to say that PS2 online is above average due to voice communication and DNAS, relative to PC gaming (the standard). Although, Live would still be above even that, due to the integration. But that's my opinion, since I'm not really interested in what the developers have to deal with. I, personally, just want basic online-play along basic support, if needed. I read that PS2 online in Europe has a system that closer resembles Live, although, I'm not sure to what extent. I know it's free, though! Exactly how it should be! Anyways, I decided to leave this thread alone after all the fanboyish bashing, since it's fruitless to argue with retards. Good points, though. Also, I believe Halo 2 surpasses SOCOM 2 in players online. It is after all Xbox's flagship series for the mainstream that was hyped more than any other game in history.
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[quote name='Mook Williams']Sorry guys, sorry to burst your bubbles, but your opinions represent a very, very small minority of the gaming population. You guys are hardcore gamers. I am one, too. However, the rest of my friends are not. They love gaming, but are not very hardcore. We range in age from mid-20s to mid-30s. We all have professions, most are married, some have children. We are from all around the country, and are mostly well educated.
I can tell you that to a man, not a single one of us would ever contemplate choosing XBOX for its online capacities over PS2. Why? Well, having to pay extra for Live just doesn't strike us right. PS2 online has very good quality most of the time, and it's free! Furthermore, sports gaming (which is our favorite genre) is clearly superior online on the PS2. Check the latest season of EA and ESPN games . . . stability is far superior on the PS2. We don't care about dorky crap like universal friends lists or having the same user name. Hell, I LIKE having different user names, depending on the genre. IT only takes me 2 minutes to get another one, so it's not a big deal.
There are many other reasons why the XBOX doesn't draw a thought from any of us, but as for online gaming, we strongly favor PS2. It gives us what we need efficiently and without additional cost. I wouldn't tolerate the crap that sports gamers have to put up with on XBOX - extra lag and other additional headaches with the ESPN games. No way, sorry.
So, why many of the XBOX heads on hardcore forums like this pat themselves on the back . . . they should realize that they are an extreme minority, and that the general gaming public prefers PS2 online and offline. Sure, not all of the PS2 development houses are good in implementing online play, but I'll take that as a trade off for not having to pay any extra money, and for being online with the console that every one in my group of friends, stretching from FLA to CAL to Quebec, has and plays on.[/quote]
Damn, how much bullshit can you spit out? If the general gaming public prefers PS2 online then why the hell is Xbox Live obviously doing much better? Yes, most of us on this site are "hardcore" gamers, and that's why we can see that Xbox Live is much superior. But Xbox Live is getting a big casual gamer fan base now. If you're a casual gamer, you don't want to go through a lot of complicated gaming mumbo-jumbo. For Xbox Live, all you have to do is get a 2-month-free card, which they probably already have if they've bought a Live game in the past year or so. Hook up the Xbox to your network, and fill in your info. Now you're probably going to combat that with the fact that connecting your PS2 online is not too much more complicated, which is plausible. Then there's Xbox Live's streamlined system. All you have to do is pop in any Live game, go to the Live option, and put in your password. Whereas on PS2, you have to create a new log-in for each game. Xbox Live is the clear winner for the casual gamer. See, it happens that YOU and your friends the minority. The "non-minorities" get online to play all different types of games. While you and your friends play PS2 online just for the latest run of sports games. Wouldn't you say that makes you a minority? Of course, you also said you prefer PS2 online because it's free, but I just dismissed that as bullshit. If you're a grown man, which you stated, you should be able to fork over just $50 for a year of such a better experience.
EDIT: Forgot to add these two things:
What could get less minority than Halo 2 online?
Wow, you can play across the USA and Canada while Xbox Live can connect you with players in France, England, and other countries.
I can tell you that to a man, not a single one of us would ever contemplate choosing XBOX for its online capacities over PS2. Why? Well, having to pay extra for Live just doesn't strike us right. PS2 online has very good quality most of the time, and it's free! Furthermore, sports gaming (which is our favorite genre) is clearly superior online on the PS2. Check the latest season of EA and ESPN games . . . stability is far superior on the PS2. We don't care about dorky crap like universal friends lists or having the same user name. Hell, I LIKE having different user names, depending on the genre. IT only takes me 2 minutes to get another one, so it's not a big deal.
There are many other reasons why the XBOX doesn't draw a thought from any of us, but as for online gaming, we strongly favor PS2. It gives us what we need efficiently and without additional cost. I wouldn't tolerate the crap that sports gamers have to put up with on XBOX - extra lag and other additional headaches with the ESPN games. No way, sorry.
So, why many of the XBOX heads on hardcore forums like this pat themselves on the back . . . they should realize that they are an extreme minority, and that the general gaming public prefers PS2 online and offline. Sure, not all of the PS2 development houses are good in implementing online play, but I'll take that as a trade off for not having to pay any extra money, and for being online with the console that every one in my group of friends, stretching from FLA to CAL to Quebec, has and plays on.[/quote]
Damn, how much bullshit can you spit out? If the general gaming public prefers PS2 online then why the hell is Xbox Live obviously doing much better? Yes, most of us on this site are "hardcore" gamers, and that's why we can see that Xbox Live is much superior. But Xbox Live is getting a big casual gamer fan base now. If you're a casual gamer, you don't want to go through a lot of complicated gaming mumbo-jumbo. For Xbox Live, all you have to do is get a 2-month-free card, which they probably already have if they've bought a Live game in the past year or so. Hook up the Xbox to your network, and fill in your info. Now you're probably going to combat that with the fact that connecting your PS2 online is not too much more complicated, which is plausible. Then there's Xbox Live's streamlined system. All you have to do is pop in any Live game, go to the Live option, and put in your password. Whereas on PS2, you have to create a new log-in for each game. Xbox Live is the clear winner for the casual gamer. See, it happens that YOU and your friends the minority. The "non-minorities" get online to play all different types of games. While you and your friends play PS2 online just for the latest run of sports games. Wouldn't you say that makes you a minority? Of course, you also said you prefer PS2 online because it's free, but I just dismissed that as bullshit. If you're a grown man, which you stated, you should be able to fork over just $50 for a year of such a better experience.
EDIT: Forgot to add these two things:
What could get less minority than Halo 2 online?
Wow, you can play across the USA and Canada while Xbox Live can connect you with players in France, England, and other countries.
Dude, if you're going to argue about something, try to know what you're talking about. You said Socom II has 30,000-40,000 people online at peak hours every night. You claim that Halo 2 doesn't come close to that. Sorry to break it to you, but the sources say otherwise. According to Bungie, at http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ , there are currently over 77,000 players online, and it is noon here. So Halo 2 has double the number of players Socom II has. You're simply in denial.
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[quote name='"Mook Williams"']And MookyJooky . . . did you not read what I wrote . . . that's 20,000 - 30,000 players on SOCOM II each night. Plus another 2,000 international users per night.
Does Halo 2 even come close to that?
I think not.
I just wanted to sweep up some fanboy nonsense. Grow up, fellas.[/quote]
http://www.bungie.net/stats/
The numbers speak for them selves...
Halo 2 - Xbox Live Statistics
(last 24 hrs)
Unique Players: 457,087
Matches Logged: 1,150,635
Players Online: 78,440
as of 12:24 p.m. central time.
Sure as hell beats 32,000. And its not even night time.
edit: damn, quote didn't work right...
Does Halo 2 even come close to that?
I think not.
I just wanted to sweep up some fanboy nonsense. Grow up, fellas.[/quote]
http://www.bungie.net/stats/
The numbers speak for them selves...
Halo 2 - Xbox Live Statistics
(last 24 hrs)
Unique Players: 457,087
Matches Logged: 1,150,635
Players Online: 78,440
as of 12:24 p.m. central time.
Sure as hell beats 32,000. And its not even night time.
edit: damn, quote didn't work right...
Mook Williams
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Look, it is clear that PS2 is the dominant system, in general. Further, I don't know many people who are grown adults and who game on XBOX Live. Actually, out of the diverse assortment of people that I know, all in their late 20s or early 30s. . I know of only 3 people who even own an XBOX at all, only 1 of those XBOXes are online.
Thanks for the Halo 2 stats . . . still, SOCOM II is doing very, very strongly. I would be somewhat surprised if Halo 2 did those numbers over a year after its release. Did you guys remember, those of you who are trumping those numbers, how new Halo 2 is? There's really no comparison to SOCOM II. Oh, and I never said that SOCOM II gets more users than Halo 2. . . I wouldn't make such a ridiculous statement, because Halo 2 just came out.
Look, I'm not paying $50 for a product that is the same as, or inferior to, PS2 online. It offends my value system. There's just no point. I have other things to worry about - mortgage, credit cards, car payments, retirement savings, tolls, utilities, cable, planning to have kids, student loans, etc. I'm not adding another expense
Also, I already have PS2 and I don't have much time to play it. It would be a waste for me to get an XBOX. I'm not bringing the ugly beast that is the XBOX into my home to muddle up and destroy the aesthetics of my entertainment system, just to split up my valuable and rare video gaming time. The thing just is not designed well, physically-speaking.
I'm curious as to the general ages of the people in here trying to "fanboy" the XBOX over the PS2. First of all: (1) Why do you care about this argument? and (2) Have you looked at all of the factors involved? I just noticed a few posts that were incredibly inaccurate re: the PS2, and therefore posted to give it a fair evaluation. Now we have posters coming from all corners with thick-rimmed blacked glasses trying to win some type of "war" on this message board! TFF!!!
Have a good one, guys . . . and remember, neither Sony nor MS pays you fellas to argue on a message board . . . and it's also just a video game.
I am totally satisfied with the experience that Sony has given me this generation, I'm happy that many others have found satisfaction with their XBOX product, and I wish you guys happy gaming.
Thanks for the Halo 2 stats . . . still, SOCOM II is doing very, very strongly. I would be somewhat surprised if Halo 2 did those numbers over a year after its release. Did you guys remember, those of you who are trumping those numbers, how new Halo 2 is? There's really no comparison to SOCOM II. Oh, and I never said that SOCOM II gets more users than Halo 2. . . I wouldn't make such a ridiculous statement, because Halo 2 just came out.
Look, I'm not paying $50 for a product that is the same as, or inferior to, PS2 online. It offends my value system. There's just no point. I have other things to worry about - mortgage, credit cards, car payments, retirement savings, tolls, utilities, cable, planning to have kids, student loans, etc. I'm not adding another expense
Also, I already have PS2 and I don't have much time to play it. It would be a waste for me to get an XBOX. I'm not bringing the ugly beast that is the XBOX into my home to muddle up and destroy the aesthetics of my entertainment system, just to split up my valuable and rare video gaming time. The thing just is not designed well, physically-speaking.
I'm curious as to the general ages of the people in here trying to "fanboy" the XBOX over the PS2. First of all: (1) Why do you care about this argument? and (2) Have you looked at all of the factors involved? I just noticed a few posts that were incredibly inaccurate re: the PS2, and therefore posted to give it a fair evaluation. Now we have posters coming from all corners with thick-rimmed blacked glasses trying to win some type of "war" on this message board! TFF!!!
Have a good one, guys . . . and remember, neither Sony nor MS pays you fellas to argue on a message board . . . and it's also just a video game.
I am totally satisfied with the experience that Sony has given me this generation, I'm happy that many others have found satisfaction with their XBOX product, and I wish you guys happy gaming.
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[quote name='Rig'][quote name='PHaLaNX GTR'][quote name='Rig']I have never got my PSTwo online, but I have heard it is pretty bad...[/quote]
From what I've experienced DNAS works great. I haven't seen a full-blown cheater online since DNAS was introduced. Maybe I was playing the wrong/right games, but SOCOM 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, SSX 3, and Killzone didn't have any cheaters the last time I played them online. If you got an internet connection (more over broadband), do yourself a favor and hook up your PS2. I'd definitely have to say that the best thing to do is take the OP with a grain of salt. I certainly can't vouch for him.[/quote]
Hmmm. I guess it's just my laziness. I have XBL, but to get it I had to install a PCI ethernet card into my computer. Wasn't much work, but I just haven't wanted to put another one in for my PSTwo. I might just have to get one put in and test it out...[/quote]
What does installing an ethernet card in a PC have to do with console gaming online? You just purchase a broadband router/switch and plug each system into it.
From what I've experienced DNAS works great. I haven't seen a full-blown cheater online since DNAS was introduced. Maybe I was playing the wrong/right games, but SOCOM 2, Mortal Kombat Deception, SSX 3, and Killzone didn't have any cheaters the last time I played them online. If you got an internet connection (more over broadband), do yourself a favor and hook up your PS2. I'd definitely have to say that the best thing to do is take the OP with a grain of salt. I certainly can't vouch for him.[/quote]
Hmmm. I guess it's just my laziness. I have XBL, but to get it I had to install a PCI ethernet card into my computer. Wasn't much work, but I just haven't wanted to put another one in for my PSTwo. I might just have to get one put in and test it out...[/quote]
What does installing an ethernet card in a PC have to do with console gaming online? You just purchase a broadband router/switch and plug each system into it.
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I actually don't get what all the hype is about online play on any system (or PC for that matter). I barely have enough time to play my single-player campaigns, much less go online for the multi-player stuff. Perhaps if I was a small child again, I would have the kind of available free time it would take to make the whole online experience worthwhile, but I simply don't have the time to invest in online play right now. Maybe in another lifetime. . .
second post like this...First mookyjookys retard post, now this crap..Whats the point?
Keep playing your xbox..Nobody gives a damn if you like ps2 online or not. There is no point posting 'DUH PS2 ONLINE CHEATERS pS2 SUCKS' threads other than to try and cause flame wars. Grow up.
Keep playing your xbox..Nobody gives a damn if you like ps2 online or not. There is no point posting 'DUH PS2 ONLINE CHEATERS pS2 SUCKS' threads other than to try and cause flame wars. Grow up.
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[quote name='Mook Williams'][quote name='zewone'][quote name='Mook Williams']Ps2 online gaming is incredible!!!
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.[/quote]
Wow, you're insane.[/quote]
Uhhhhh . . . no I'm not. I actually play PS2 online, and I won't play any PS2 game that isn't online aside from GTA.
I'm a 28yo attorney, have limited time, and could have XBOX if I wanted to. However, I go with what I perceive to be as the superior online product. PS2 online is far better than XBOX for sports games, my favorite genre. SSX3 is flawless online, as well, and SOCOM II is solid.
Now go run and watch some anime or play some RPGs.[/quote]
I love how people come in here and try to make fun of people in here. I love this "Now go run and watch some anime or play some RPGs."....Thats like going into a library on friday night and making fun of people who have no life. You end up looking retarded.
Sure, PS2 CAN go online....and it IS cheaper, in fact FREE. But you get what you pay for in this world, and the PS2 online component is most definatly free.
Xbox live is leaps and bounds over the compitition, and the games that come out for PS2 online usually come online for Xbox as well... Except with better graphics, better sound and the inability to use something as simple as a gameshark to cheat and completely waste other gamers money by ruining the game for everyone.
I love the PS2, just not online.... Why you ask?
1.I'd rather play with people I want to with a friends list. I can leave them messages (voice ones too!) That I'll be on at 7pm for some gaming....but I'm sure the PS2 allows that.
2.Im also sure the PS2 is really DSL only, and its not full of 56k bitches tricking their connection to play on DSL games.
3. I'm also sure that people arent playing cracked copies of the games online that have all the walls texture mapped to white to easily see your enemies. Cause I know the Xbox wouldnt allow that, and I'm sure PS2 doesnt too,
4. Everyone has a headset on PS2 right? Cause I would hate to play socom and have 1/2 of my team just running around not doing shit.
5. Also, in socom everyone can talk at once right? Cause its annoying to wait 10-15 seconds to tell everyone theres a pack of enemies coming on the right cause some fag's singing into the mic.
6. The PS2 has better games than Killzone and Socom II right? Cause they suck in comparison to Halo2. Sure you can say its a different gametype of FPS...but I can customize Halo 2 to play like Socom...can you customize socom to play like Halo 2?
7. Paying $50 for it helps keep the cheaters and the little annoying ass brats at bay...how does the PS2 keep them at bay since that is the PS2's core audience?
I could go on and on, but you've been here for less than 30 posts and I just figure you dont know any better. So make fun of me cause I actually hate RPGs and I rarely watch Anime. Because I think you're a cornfed retarded hick who wouldnt know a good game if ited your mom. So go play Socom with the rest of the retards who dont play games as well. Its a poorly done 3rd person Counter-strike ripoff anyways. Thats boring as hell.
If you are complaining about it, perhaps you should check your connection.
Mookyjooky is way off with his pic, too, because on SOCOM II, there are anywhere between 20K and 30K players online every single night.'
PS2 online play is superior to XBOX online play because it is free, and you don't have to conform to the MS standards. The MS standards flubbed up the ESPN games' online play. Those games play much, much better on PS2.
But go ahead and believe what you want.[/quote]
Wow, you're insane.[/quote]
Uhhhhh . . . no I'm not. I actually play PS2 online, and I won't play any PS2 game that isn't online aside from GTA.
I'm a 28yo attorney, have limited time, and could have XBOX if I wanted to. However, I go with what I perceive to be as the superior online product. PS2 online is far better than XBOX for sports games, my favorite genre. SSX3 is flawless online, as well, and SOCOM II is solid.
Now go run and watch some anime or play some RPGs.[/quote]
I love how people come in here and try to make fun of people in here. I love this "Now go run and watch some anime or play some RPGs."....Thats like going into a library on friday night and making fun of people who have no life. You end up looking retarded.
Sure, PS2 CAN go online....and it IS cheaper, in fact FREE. But you get what you pay for in this world, and the PS2 online component is most definatly free.
Xbox live is leaps and bounds over the compitition, and the games that come out for PS2 online usually come online for Xbox as well... Except with better graphics, better sound and the inability to use something as simple as a gameshark to cheat and completely waste other gamers money by ruining the game for everyone.
I love the PS2, just not online.... Why you ask?
1.I'd rather play with people I want to with a friends list. I can leave them messages (voice ones too!) That I'll be on at 7pm for some gaming....but I'm sure the PS2 allows that.
2.Im also sure the PS2 is really DSL only, and its not full of 56k bitches tricking their connection to play on DSL games.
3. I'm also sure that people arent playing cracked copies of the games online that have all the walls texture mapped to white to easily see your enemies. Cause I know the Xbox wouldnt allow that, and I'm sure PS2 doesnt too,
4. Everyone has a headset on PS2 right? Cause I would hate to play socom and have 1/2 of my team just running around not doing shit.
5. Also, in socom everyone can talk at once right? Cause its annoying to wait 10-15 seconds to tell everyone theres a pack of enemies coming on the right cause some fag's singing into the mic.
6. The PS2 has better games than Killzone and Socom II right? Cause they suck in comparison to Halo2. Sure you can say its a different gametype of FPS...but I can customize Halo 2 to play like Socom...can you customize socom to play like Halo 2?
7. Paying $50 for it helps keep the cheaters and the little annoying ass brats at bay...how does the PS2 keep them at bay since that is the PS2's core audience?
I could go on and on, but you've been here for less than 30 posts and I just figure you dont know any better. So make fun of me cause I actually hate RPGs and I rarely watch Anime. Because I think you're a cornfed retarded hick who wouldnt know a good game if it
ed your mom. So go play Socom with the rest of the retards who dont play games as well. Its a poorly done 3rd person Counter-strike ripoff anyways. Thats boring as hell.Mook Williams
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LOL at Mookyjooky!!!
Get a life, kiddie. Are you related to Bill Gates? Why oh why do you care so much?? I use this site as a procrastination tool . . .what do you use it for? Sticky keyboards???
And BTW, in case you couldn't read . . . this thread sits in the "PS2 FORUM." If you are really a true "fanboy," you would stay to the XBOX forums and not waste our time.
You've gotta be one of the most comical message board characters ever. LOL!!!!!!
Wanna hit us off with another ramble or some idiotic photoshop project that wasted an hour of your time?
Get a life, kiddie. Are you related to Bill Gates? Why oh why do you care so much?? I use this site as a procrastination tool . . .what do you use it for? Sticky keyboards???
And BTW, in case you couldn't read . . . this thread sits in the "PS2 FORUM." If you are really a true "fanboy," you would stay to the XBOX forums and not waste our time.
You've gotta be one of the most comical message board characters ever. LOL!!!!!!
Wanna hit us off with another ramble or some idiotic photoshop project that wasted an hour of your time?
orangemage
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[quote name='Mook Williams']LOL at Mookyjooky!!!
Get a life, kiddie. Are you related to Bill Gates? Why oh why do you care so much?? I use this site as a procrastination tool . . .what do you use it for? Sticky keyboards???
And BTW, in case you couldn't read . . . this thread sits in the "PS2 FORUM." If you are really a true "fanboy," you would stay to the XBOX forums and not waste our time.
You've gotta be one of the most comical message board characters ever. LOL!!!!!!
Wanna hit us off with another ramble or some idiotic photoshop project that wasted an hour of your time?[/quote]
wow, you sound so mature
Get a life, kiddie. Are you related to Bill Gates? Why oh why do you care so much?? I use this site as a procrastination tool . . .what do you use it for? Sticky keyboards???
And BTW, in case you couldn't read . . . this thread sits in the "PS2 FORUM." If you are really a true "fanboy," you would stay to the XBOX forums and not waste our time.
You've gotta be one of the most comical message board characters ever. LOL!!!!!!
Wanna hit us off with another ramble or some idiotic photoshop project that wasted an hour of your time?[/quote]
wow, you sound so mature
Mook Williams
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[quote name='"orangemage[/quote']
wow, you sound so mature[/quote]
When you grow up, you'll learn to stop worrying about who's acting mature and who isn't, and that you will often have great difficulty distinguishing between the 2.
Nice sig, BTW.
wow, you sound so mature
[/quote]When you grow up, you'll learn to stop worrying about who's acting mature and who isn't, and that you will often have great difficulty distinguishing between the 2.
Nice sig, BTW.
Mr.Answer
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I'm not a fan of online gaming, maybe I will someday. As long as there are games like Kotor or neverwinter nights, and the like for single player I need not go online. I have a very small temptation to try a MMORPG but the money vs time able to play it always discourages me. family of 4, 60 hours at work, coaching and other misc time commitments --I never know when I will have a nice block of time for some serious playing.
That said, I recently bought half-life 2 and have tried the COunter strike online, 5 minute doses of CS might be a way for me to give online more of a chance. Of course that is PC and neither Xbox nor PS2
That said, I recently bought half-life 2 and have tried the COunter strike online, 5 minute doses of CS might be a way for me to give online more of a chance. Of course that is PC and neither Xbox nor PS2
Mookyjooky
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[quote name='Mook Williams']LOL at Mookyjooky!!!
Get a life, kiddie. Are you related to Bill Gates? Why oh why do you care so much?? I use this site as a procrastination tool . . .what do you use it for? Sticky keyboards???
And BTW, in case you couldn't read . . . this thread sits in the "PS2 FORUM." If you are really a true "fanboy," you would stay to the XBOX forums and not waste our time.
You've gotta be one of the most comical message board characters ever. LOL!!!!!!
Wanna hit us off with another ramble or some idiotic photoshop project that wasted an hour of your time?[/quote]
Once again your pathetic attempt to make fun of me has made you look retarded.
Heres why:
1. I've posted twice in here, you've posted 9 times....so YES, if it makes you feel better I'M the geek for posting in here a whole second time while I was bored at work. So yes, sticky keyboards it is.....I'm the dork for posting twice as you've set up shop and made this thread your home. I'm sorry its, your thread...I'll stop posting in it.
2. Oh yeah, I'm also a dork for repling to something from 3 days ago, while you had a rebuttle in less than a minute. I must just lurk this thread and carefully script my rebuttles for 3 days per post. Yes, if it makes you feel better....I'm also the dork with no life cause it took me 3 days to answer one thing and you answered me in less than a minute.
3. As a matter of fact I am related to Bill Gates and I suck his dick all night long because I spent a measly $50 bucks for a better gaming experience... You're probably so cool you're typing your next rebuttle on your "Leet" Linux/Unix machine because its "cool" and "leet" to have something that the man isnt locking down.... So yes, I'm a dork once again, for not giving a shit about who's who in the finacial world and who the geeks on the interweb hate today. I just bought his product cause when I played on the PS2 I wanted to take in back to the store and just play online with my dumbass dorky windows machine. And here I thought I just bought live because it was just a better product.
4. Oya, I'm also a dork cause I'm not a true PS2 fanboy like you, who only posts in the PS2 forum and never any others. Sorry, I'll try to get some time off the M$ master of all evil things, Bill Gates' dick and go back to the Xbox only thread....since I'm a fool to post anywhere on these message boards.
5. Oya, I'm also retarded cause that photoshop took me less time to do than our last post. Here I thought I was just laying two images on top each other and putting text down not realizing it really took an hour of my wasted time.
I'm so dumb, if I was cool I'd be more like you. I'd speak like a 10 year old and just make all my debates into mudslinging shit talking with no real facts in my comments at all. That would make me truely cool.
Get a life, kiddie. Are you related to Bill Gates? Why oh why do you care so much?? I use this site as a procrastination tool . . .what do you use it for? Sticky keyboards???
And BTW, in case you couldn't read . . . this thread sits in the "PS2 FORUM." If you are really a true "fanboy," you would stay to the XBOX forums and not waste our time.
You've gotta be one of the most comical message board characters ever. LOL!!!!!!
Wanna hit us off with another ramble or some idiotic photoshop project that wasted an hour of your time?[/quote]
Once again your pathetic attempt to make fun of me has made you look retarded.
Heres why:
1. I've posted twice in here, you've posted 9 times....so YES, if it makes you feel better I'M the geek for posting in here a whole second time while I was bored at work. So yes, sticky keyboards it is.....I'm the dork for posting twice as you've set up shop and made this thread your home. I'm sorry its, your thread...I'll stop posting in it.
2. Oh yeah, I'm also a dork for repling to something from 3 days ago, while you had a rebuttle in less than a minute. I must just lurk this thread and carefully script my rebuttles for 3 days per post. Yes, if it makes you feel better....I'm also the dork with no life cause it took me 3 days to answer one thing and you answered me in less than a minute.
3. As a matter of fact I am related to Bill Gates and I suck his dick all night long because I spent a measly $50 bucks for a better gaming experience... You're probably so cool you're typing your next rebuttle on your "Leet" Linux/Unix machine because its "cool" and "leet" to have something that the man isnt locking down.... So yes, I'm a dork once again, for not giving a shit about who's who in the finacial world and who the geeks on the interweb hate today. I just bought his product cause when I played on the PS2 I wanted to take in back to the store and just play online with my dumbass dorky windows machine. And here I thought I just bought live because it was just a better product.
4. Oya, I'm also a dork cause I'm not a true PS2 fanboy like you, who only posts in the PS2 forum and never any others. Sorry, I'll try to get some time off the M$ master of all evil things, Bill Gates' dick and go back to the Xbox only thread....since I'm a fool to post anywhere on these message boards.
5. Oya, I'm also retarded cause that photoshop took me less time to do than our last post. Here I thought I was just laying two images on top each other and putting text down not realizing it really took an hour of my wasted time.
I'm so dumb, if I was cool I'd be more like you. I'd speak like a 10 year old and just make all my debates into mudslinging shit talking with no real facts in my comments at all. That would make me truely cool.
orangemage
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[quote name='Mook Williams'][quote name='orangemage']
wow, you sound so mature[/quote]
When you grow up, you'll learn to stop worrying about who's acting mature and who isn't, and that you will often have great difficulty distinguishing between the 2.
Nice sig, BTW.[/quote]
wow i sure need to grow up
strange sounds like you need to gtow up. when ever some disagrees with you call them a kid or a fanboy, strange coming from the guy with only the PS2 .wonder why you think the ps2s online play is so great, sounds to me like you never even seen or played xbox live
wow, you sound so mature
[/quote]When you grow up, you'll learn to stop worrying about who's acting mature and who isn't, and that you will often have great difficulty distinguishing between the 2.
Nice sig, BTW.[/quote]
wow i sure need to grow up
strange sounds like you need to gtow up. when ever some disagrees with you call them a kid or a fanboy, strange coming from the guy with only the PS2 .wonder why you think the ps2s online play is so great, sounds to me like you never even seen or played xbox live
I don't know what you are talking about, and the ps2 online being better...you bitch about the ocst of xbox live, if you were a 1/2 way decent attorney, $50 a year shouldn't be a problem...also sony and ea have both talked about charging for their online features..it is only a matter of time b4 they start to charge...and talking about giving it to the hands of the developers...numerous small companies don't have the resources available to set up online play, and host a server...microsoft softens the blow, and takes care of handeling the online play for them...I play online a lot, I used to put in about 15 - 20 hours a week on socom 1 online...but the cheating got way out of hand...I don't have those problems on xbox live...I am 28, my brother is 25, and a good friend of mine is 43...we play xbox live together for a couple hours a week...so yes their is older people playing on xbox
Mook Williams
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Hey Eclipse, you were right! These guys are out of hand. You are a strange bunch, those of you that come in here generating a fanboy fight for what? Nothing.
I love it . . . some guy up in the thread says that I'm a PS2 fanboy, and yet I've uttered nary a negative word about the XBOX!! What, the only two things I cited were it's ugly physical appearance and the $50 price tag? Nothing else! How is that even remotely close to a fanboy? I even relayed my very positive PERSONAL experiences with the PS2. Those are MY experiences, and I'm sorry to hear that you are pissed that I enjoy PS2 online. I'm also sorry to hear that it angers you that SOCOM II is still incredibly popular , and that ESPN video games, by the programmers' own admission, are better online for PS2 than XBOX. Why get your panties in a jumble? No fanboy stuff from me . . . I'm just presenting practical observations. Maybe you guys should re-think those posts attacking me for next to nothing.
For the record, I am a man of principal, and I'm not spending the $50 for Live because XBox has not earned it from me. And yes, I have played Live. And yes, I like it. However, the XBOX isn't attractive enough for me to purchase overall, when I look at the total system, the high quality of the PS2, and the VERY limited amount of time I have to play.
And listen up, my challenged posters . .. in case you didn't notice, this thread isn't about running down Live. Instead it was about PS2 online (read the title), and certain posters taking unfair shots at it. Get your focus back - no one was attacking Live. I was just trying to make my point that PS2 online is a quality service, and adds tremendous value to the PS2 as a whole.
And I believe that this is my last post on the matter. You guys are both depressing and humorous at the same time, with the unbalanced passion and strange loyalty that you are bringing to the debate. I still maintain that MookyJooky is one of the more comical figures ever to be found on a message board.
But go ahead, continue your XBOX fanboy convention on a PS2 message board. To me, attacking the product that competes with your favorite product upon the basis of ignorant claims and "facts" which are nothing more than opinions is the definition of being a fanboy. So keep at it . . .
[I now own a PsTwo . . . got 2 free lift tickets with my old PS2 Network Adapter, so that was more than free]
I love it . . . some guy up in the thread says that I'm a PS2 fanboy, and yet I've uttered nary a negative word about the XBOX!! What, the only two things I cited were it's ugly physical appearance and the $50 price tag? Nothing else! How is that even remotely close to a fanboy? I even relayed my very positive PERSONAL experiences with the PS2. Those are MY experiences, and I'm sorry to hear that you are pissed that I enjoy PS2 online. I'm also sorry to hear that it angers you that SOCOM II is still incredibly popular , and that ESPN video games, by the programmers' own admission, are better online for PS2 than XBOX. Why get your panties in a jumble? No fanboy stuff from me . . . I'm just presenting practical observations. Maybe you guys should re-think those posts attacking me for next to nothing.
For the record, I am a man of principal, and I'm not spending the $50 for Live because XBox has not earned it from me. And yes, I have played Live. And yes, I like it. However, the XBOX isn't attractive enough for me to purchase overall, when I look at the total system, the high quality of the PS2, and the VERY limited amount of time I have to play.
And listen up, my challenged posters . .. in case you didn't notice, this thread isn't about running down Live. Instead it was about PS2 online (read the title), and certain posters taking unfair shots at it. Get your focus back - no one was attacking Live. I was just trying to make my point that PS2 online is a quality service, and adds tremendous value to the PS2 as a whole.
And I believe that this is my last post on the matter. You guys are both depressing and humorous at the same time, with the unbalanced passion and strange loyalty that you are bringing to the debate. I still maintain that MookyJooky is one of the more comical figures ever to be found on a message board.
But go ahead, continue your XBOX fanboy convention on a PS2 message board. To me, attacking the product that competes with your favorite product upon the basis of ignorant claims and "facts" which are nothing more than opinions is the definition of being a fanboy. So keep at it . . .
[I now own a PsTwo . . . got 2 free lift tickets with my old PS2 Network Adapter, so that was more than free]
sisco1986
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hmm I play PS2 online and get no lag at all, and I'm on a 1.5MB connection. PS2 Online and XBOX LIVE is over rated. You either have to deal with pre-teens with ego complexes (I seem to be a kid magnet, but there are some mature kids playing on live/ps2 online), or just boring gameplay (running around in SOCOM fraging each other for an hour isn't my idea of fun anymore, and Halo is in the same boat. I've been online fraging for 5+ years and I'm growing tired of the same chip with a new flavor). XBOX Live is the better online component in my opinion, it's worth the 50 bucks and theres at least a few people playing in each game online. With the PS2 your lucky to find people playing Online, and usually after about 6 months after a release finding people to play online is a pain in the ass. The king of online play is the PC my friends, I do 80% of my online on my PC (i've got 6+ year old games that people still play Online). Also some of you guys are taking his/her post way to seriously, it's your opinion at the end of the day what you think is what maters not what this guy (or me for that mater) thinks. 
dwsscs
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I play Socom 2 online every other day or so, and have very few problems in the 6 months to a year I have played. Also those who speak of cheater, etc.; most of that is on the old games without the dnas. I have never encountered a cheater on Socom 2! There is a average of 25,000 players on at night every day, except last night during the superbowl (there was 15,000).
PS2 online play is free, unlike some of the other products! Not to name any names, just know what you are talking about before you bash Sony online play, and don't judge it on the old games.
I have nothing bad to say about Xbox live because I have never played. But I also don't want to pay to play. I already bought the game, the system, and the high speed Internet connection. Why would I want to pay a subscription fee, when I can play online without it.
PS2 online play is free, unlike some of the other products! Not to name any names, just know what you are talking about before you bash Sony online play, and don't judge it on the old games.
I have nothing bad to say about Xbox live because I have never played. But I also don't want to pay to play. I already bought the game, the system, and the high speed Internet connection. Why would I want to pay a subscription fee, when I can play online without it.
dwsscs
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[quote name='CheapyD'][quote name='dwsscs']PS2 online play is free, unlike some of the other products! [/quote]
Hmm...I paid $40 to be able to play my PS2 online (PS2 Network Adapter) and unless you own a PStwo, you did too.[/quote]
I forgot about that charge, good point cheapyd! I bought the PS2 that came with the online kit and at the time it was cheaper than the xbox.
Not too mention I am considering getting a Xbox to play Halo, halo 2, NOTOR 1 and 2, etc. I hear that Halo is superior to Socom 2 so when I get tired of it I might break down and get a Xbox.
Hmm...I paid $40 to be able to play my PS2 online (PS2 Network Adapter) and unless you own a PStwo, you did too.[/quote]
I forgot about that charge, good point cheapyd! I bought the PS2 that came with the online kit and at the time it was cheaper than the xbox.
Not too mention I am considering getting a Xbox to play Halo, halo 2, NOTOR 1 and 2, etc. I hear that Halo is superior to Socom 2 so when I get tired of it I might break down and get a Xbox.
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