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...... give up 5/7 of your life to a job you hate? I'm talking about working until midnight Monday through Friday (and occasionally on the weekends) with NO vacation time either. There wouldn't be time to do anything fun (like play video games, watch TV, etc.)...

Is it worth it? :?:
 
imho, no :)

right now, i work 10 hr days and i barely have enough time to enjoy video games, hanging out with friends and taking care of my personal business. it's a real drag. i figure once i've sacrificed enough, i can just enjoy the money i've made and everything else i've listed up there. it's hard and sometimes it doesn't feel like it's worth it. if you have another offer that makes a little less, but you get more free time, i'd take that one instead.
 
Depends.

If there's no other job offers, and you need the money... anyone would be happy just playing video games and having free time, but seriously not all of us can live like that. You can always find another job, but if that's the only opportunity you're given, go for it.

EDIT: $125k per year is no chump change either. =P
 
Economically, think in terms of utility value and opportunity costs. Is that salary (don't forget taxes) worth the time that you would spend doing other things or otherwise having to yourself?

Philosophically, would that work make you a better person? Is it a job, career, or profession? How much would you actually enjoy what you'd be doing?

A job that offers no vacation time and potentially takes up your entire life is not a job, it IS your LIFE. There is no practical or realistic job/profession/whatever that would entice me to give up my time.

Nah, I probably wouldn't do it.
 
This depends on the job. If it's mining coal, then no. If it's testing hookers, then yes.

And by testing, I mean giving them a test drive. Not STD testing.
 
Life isn't all about having fun. That's what college is for. If you miss such an opportunity you may be regretting it the rest of your life. You can make up video game playing time or you can use TIVO to catch your shows. But moving up into another tax bracket might be damn near impossible.

I'm just curious like Cheapy, what is this job you're talking about?

EDIT: Theeternal, that sounds like a heck of a plan. Maybe someday I may try that. :)
 
It depends on one's situation in life. If I had a wife and kids that I was supporting, I'd give up 5/7ths of my life in an instant. Of course, I'd want to make sure I lived close to work so that I was giving up another 1/7th driving.

Of course, I have a feeling you're probably overstating that. If you were giving 5/7th of all the time in your life, you'd be working 24 hours a day for 5 days out of the week. No job would ever ask that or any boss expect it. I mean heck, if I had that kind of schedule, I'd be pulling somewhere between 3 and 4 hundred thousand dollars a year (considering that I only work 40 hours a week as it is). So either you are either overstating what is expected of you, or you are greatly underpaid
 
Yeah what are we talking about exactly? 5/7 of your life is 24 hours a day for 5 days a week. I had a job that I worked about 60 hours a week and some weekends for about 50k a year. So, If I had to work 80 hours a week for 125k I would probably do it for awhile. I could pay off all my debts in about 3 years! Okay I would probably still have a lot to pay on my mortgage.
 
we all must know what job this is especially since im in jersey too and am educated. maybe not educated enough for 125,000 but we will c well what is it??
 
[quote name='cag1000']we all must know what job this is especially since im in jersey too and am educated. maybe not educated enough for 125,000 but we will c well what is it??[/quote]

Urge to spellcheck and grammar edit... rising.. :p
(IKIK)
 
[quote name='Theenternal']Why dont you just do it for a few years, live very cheaply, then get a moderate job, play games and collect interest[/quote]


nuff said right there. I worked 2 jobs for three years making 80k a year, now I am unemployed, and have enough money not to work for the next 2 years while I finish college.
 
[quote name='javeryh']...... give up 5/7 of your life to a job you hate? I'm talking about working until midnight Monday through Friday (and occasionally on the weekends) with NO vacation time either. There wouldn't be time to do anything fun (like play video games, watch TV, etc.)...

Is it worth it? :?:[/quote]

I do that now for free.........aka micro manage/take care of my near 70 year old dad and its a living hell most of the time while the verbal abuse and blatent incompetance is going down:whistle2:(

but anyone truely creative can squeeze in that other stuff too to save their sanity,so unless its a military setting you're talking about,your premise is unrealistic
 
[quote name='CheapyD']javeryh, are you a lawyer?[/quote]

Bingo. And when I say 5/7ths I mean I spend so much time at the office during the week that when I get home I go right to sleep for 5-6 hours and then get up and do it all over again. Obviously I don't spend 24 hours a day there (although it feels like it)....
 
[quote name='javeryh']...... give up 5/7 of your life to a job you hate? I'm talking about working until midnight Monday through Friday (and occasionally on the weekends) with NO vacation time either. There wouldn't be time to do anything fun (like play video games, watch TV, etc.)...

Is it worth it? :?:[/quote]

Yep.
 
javeryh, I'm assuming you've just begun or at least it's within the first couple of years. Grit your teeth through it man. It's all about the beginnings of residency. Just like all the jobs that have potentially any personal reward, it takes work to get there...

Medical professionals, financial investors, lawyers, scientists, they all had a period of time in the beginning where they were pulling 100+ hour weeks and getting paid crap. Gotta hold onto the original reason why you entered it in the first place. Of course, if the field itself isn't what you expected that's another story. But if it is and the work deters you...

Take it from Tom Hanks in a League of Their Own:
Dottie Hinson: It just got too hard.
Jimmy Dugan: It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
 
Yes i would, just work ur ass off for like 4 or 5, live in a decent ok home and drive a decent car whiling saving up ur money then quit and get a job where u dont have to work as much and enjoy all the money u saved and video games yippie lol Yes 125K isnt chump change!!
 
no. Id take a pay cut to spend more time with family, friends, and loved ones.Rather than being on the job practically 5 days straight a week....
 
[quote name='minx'][quote name='javeryh']...... give up 5/7 of your life to a job you hate? I'm talking about working until midnight Monday through Friday (and occasionally on the weekends) with NO vacation time either. There wouldn't be time to do anything fun (like play video games, watch TV, etc.)...

Is it worth it? :?:[/quote]

I do that now for free.........aka micro manage/take care of my near 70 year old dad and its a living hell most of the time while the verbal abuse and blatent incompetance is going down:whistle2:(

but anyone truely creative can squeeze in that other stuff too to save their sanity,so unless its a military setting you're talking about,your premise is unrealistic[/quote]

Well, I guess I don't have any right to complain about my lot in life anymore. From your posts we've learned that your taking care of your 70 year old father, have psychotic neighbors, and in the hospital and visiting doctors at least 10 times more than I have to... yet you still keep a positive attitude.

Just what I need, a person to make me look even more pathetic :)
 
[quote name='nikkai']javeryh, I'm assuming you've just begun or at least it's within the first couple of years. Grit your teeth through it man. It's all about the beginnings of residency. Just like all the jobs that have potentially any personal reward, it takes work to get there...

Medical professionals, financial investors, lawyers, scientists, they all had a period of time in the beginning where they were pulling 100+ hour weeks and getting paid crap. Gotta hold onto the original reason why you entered it in the first place. Of course, if the field itself isn't what you expected that's another story. But if it is and the work deters you...

Take it from Tom Hanks in a League of Their Own:
Dottie Hinson: It just got too hard.
Jimmy Dugan: It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great![/quote]

That's some good advice.
 
Bud, this is an issue I've actually looked at since I was in middle school. I'm 22 now, and I'm still in a post-high school funk. I dont' know what the HELL I want to do, nor do I know when I'll ever get there. Right now I'm still livin with my folks, in a full-time job just saving money until I finally figure out SOMETHING. Not going too well figuring out what I'm good/meant for. You need to (if possible, because it's difficult for many people to simply disregard money, especially such a high amount) figure out if it's worth it and can't do anything else. This is a lot of your life we're talking about....

There has been a lot of advice on this subject in the media, most famously being the cats in the cradle song. A comedian said this and I've never forgotten this, "Does anyone actually say, 'Gee, I wish I spent more time in the office'" when they're older? Of course not. The problem is that I actually see the rut most people put themselves in and I don't want to be in there. So what's the solution? I don't know yet....and it depresses the HELL out of me to think that I may actually have to take a job I can't stand for a long, long time to come. I, like many people, will be working most of the rest of my life......and it makes me sad. I hate working the job I have, and want to spend as little time as possible there. (wouldn't happen to be a patent lawyer, would ya? hehe, got a cool invention to make!!! Live off the profits!!! I'm serious too)

I do apologize if my post was kind of here-and-there, there were a lot of thoughts that came pouring in and it became hard to rationalize them into a completely sane post ;)
 
i dont really see the purpose of having the job, even if it pays that much, if you only have like 6 hours free time, from 1 AM to 6 AM... you would have no chance to enjoy the money. So no, i wouldnt.
 
Yeah. All you do is, for the few hours or hour you have to go do something, go buy games and systems. Then when you retire, even though those games and systems will be old, you'll just play them all. Sure, the onine games might not have ppl still in the, but it's the fun that counts.
 
[quote name='Darkpaul']Bud, this is an issue I've actually looked at since I was in middle school. I'm 22 now, and I'm still in a post-high school funk. I dont' know what the HELL I want to do, nor do I know when I'll ever get there. Right now I'm still livin with my folks, in a full-time job just saving money until I finally figure out SOMETHING. Not going too well figuring out what I'm good/meant for. You need to (if possible, because it's difficult for many people to simply disregard money, especially such a high amount) figure out if it's worth it and can't do anything else. This is a lot of your life we're talking about....

There has been a lot of advice on this subject in the media, most famously being the cats in the cradle song. A comedian said this and I've never forgotten this, "Does anyone actually say, 'Gee, I wish I spent more time in the office'" when they're older? Of course not. The problem is that I actually see the rut most people put themselves in and I don't want to be in there. So what's the solution? I don't know yet....and it depresses the HELL out of me to think that I may actually have to take a job I can't stand for a long, long time to come. I, like many people, will be working most of the rest of my life......and it makes me sad. I hate working the job I have, and want to spend as little time as possible there. (wouldn't happen to be a patent lawyer, would ya? hehe, got a cool invention to make!!! Live off the profits!!! I'm serious too)

I do apologize if my post was kind of here-and-there, there were a lot of thoughts that came pouring in and it became hard to rationalize them into a completely sane post ;)[/quote]

I've come to realize that if I can find a job I don't mind, I'll be happy. That's all I want. I don't expect to find a job I cherish because I just don't care. I don't care about anything except relaxing and having fun. But a job is a necessary evil, so I just have to find something I can tolerate.

It amazes me that people at work will talk about work matters during their free time. I wonder, are they really passionate about their job (and trust me, it's hard to be passionate about something as dry as we do), or have they just become so engrossed by it after all these years that it's the only thing they can talk about?

I'll live my life for my days off.
 
[quote name='vshekar']It amazes me that people at work will talk about work matters during their free time.....

I'll live my life for my days off.[/quote]

AMEN.
 
[quote name='Theenternal']Why dont you just do it for a few years, live very cheaply, then get a moderate job, play games and collect interest[/quote]

My thoughts exactly.
 
I work 6 days a week and have been for about 10 years. I work on average 55 hours a week.

Usually for November, December and part of January I only take off one day every other week.

When I first opened I went about 6 months without a day off and working 12 hours a day.

For the past 2 years I havent made a dime. And I think it will stay that way for another 2 years at least. So thats 4 years I am working without a profit.

Why do I it you might ask? For one...I am my own boss at least. For another...what else do I have to do? And besides...I think I am a workaholic now.
Before I started my store I worked 2 jobs and you sort of just get used to it. I HATE taking vacations. I usually dont like to take days off as well. I prefer to be at work usually. Thats doesnt mean I am happy...its just the way I am comfortable. I am conditioned to it. When I answer the phone at home I usually say "multimedia"...you might think that is pathetic and maybe it is. But the older you get the more you realize that life is just bullshit and working at least helps the time to pass faster. I cant imagine sitting at home day after day. At work there are things to do.
 
[quote name='Darkpaul']Bud, this is an issue I've actually looked at since I was in middle school. I'm 22 now, and I'm still in a post-high school funk. I dont' know what the HELL I want to do, nor do I know when I'll ever get there. Right now I'm still livin with my folks, in a full-time job just saving money until I finally figure out SOMETHING. Not going too well figuring out what I'm good/meant for. You need to (if possible, because it's difficult for many people to simply disregard money, especially such a high amount) figure out if it's worth it and can't do anything else. This is a lot of your life we're talking about....

There has been a lot of advice on this subject in the media, most famously being the cats in the cradle song. A comedian said this and I've never forgotten this, "Does anyone actually say, 'Gee, I wish I spent more time in the office'" when they're older? Of course not. The problem is that I actually see the rut most people put themselves in and I don't want to be in there. So what's the solution? I don't know yet....and it depresses the HELL out of me to think that I may actually have to take a job I can't stand for a long, long time to come. I, like many people, will be working most of the rest of my life......and it makes me sad. I hate working the job I have, and want to spend as little time as possible there. (wouldn't happen to be a patent lawyer, would ya? hehe, got a cool invention to make!!! Live off the profits!!! I'm serious too)

I do apologize if my post was kind of here-and-there, there were a lot of thoughts that came pouring in and it became hard to rationalize them into a completely sane post ;)[/quote]

I replied without reading this post. So let me say that I understand your misery working for someone else and I guess thats why I work as much as I do...because at least its for me and my family. If I am lucky my kids will be able to work for the family business. Being your own boss is not all fun and games but there is no one to blame for it but yourself.
 
Yeah, I suppose if I were my own boss and I was doing something I was somewhat interested in I wouldn't mind the hours as much.
 
I guess my initial question should be rephrased a little. Where's the happy medium between making 'enough money' (whatever that means) but not having to work too many hours? There is a difference between working a lot and working hard - I still want to work hard, just not so much. It's not like $125k makes you rich either. My lifestyle probably wouldn't change all that much if I made considerably less...
 
[quote name='javeryh']...... give up 5/7 of your life to a job you hate? I'm talking about working until midnight Monday through Friday (and occasionally on the weekends) with NO vacation time either. There wouldn't be time to do anything fun (like play video games, watch TV, etc.)...

Is it worth it? :?:[/quote]

Sound like my fathers job but he never made $125,000 per year .

Hell no I wouldn't do it for 1,000,000 either. Although it would be nice to be financial secure but people put way to much importance on money .
 
[quote name='MorganWebbLover'][quote name='javeryh']...... give up 5/7 of your life to a job you hate? I'm talking about working until midnight Monday through Friday (and occasionally on the weekends) with NO vacation time either. There wouldn't be time to do anything fun (like play video games, watch TV, etc.)...

Is it worth it? :?:[/quote]

Sound like my fathers job but he never made $125,000 per year .

Hell no I wouldn't do it for 1,000,000 either. Although it would be nice to be financial secure but people put way to much importance on money .[/quote]

But if you made 1,000,000 you could buy MW for a night maybe. I hear you that it sucks when dad works alot, but roof over your head, food in your belly, and cloths on you back......
 
[quote name='defender']But the older you get the more you realize that life is just bullshit and working at least helps the time to pass faster. I cant imagine sitting at home day after day. At work there are things to do.[/quote]

My life turned from bullshit to beauty the day my son was born.
No amount of money could keep me from seeing his face everyday.

If you dont have a family yet then I say get your profession going.
maybe by the time you want to have a family you will be passed the "foot in the door" stage and can have more time.
 
But would there be a way to, as some suggested on the post, I think, to live cheaply and build your fortune? Work hard for awhile, then see if you can somehow live off interest (doubtful, with today's rates) or somehow make wise investments. All I'm sayin' is (I believe this is the age) 65 is a long time to work. Some of us may die before we retire, maybe shortly thereafter, maybe longer... rather depressing. I'd rather be on the beach, drinking pena coladas, playin all the games I want, playin with the lady(ies) (or men, if that's your deal) and just enjoy life.

...looking back, it seems unrealistic. But then again, how realistic is it to expect to do something you don't like most of your life for far less than you should and not complain?

FYI, i'm not actually this depressing or (perhaps macabre is a better term for this subject), it just brings out the "best" in me, heh.
 
I'd do it in a heartbeat. I have no wife or kids so I'm missing out on nothing but my own free time. I'd do it for 5 years saving all the money I can. Buy me some cheap real estate and renovate those houses then rent them out. If you look hard enough you can find a house that will rent for more than your monthly mortgage payment, your house is paying itself off.

Then when I have the wife and kids, more time can go towards them rather than work.
 
It depends really - do you have a family to support or look after? Do you have a wife/mother and if so, is she working and making a decent or good amount of money? You have to think about it on all sides really. Do what's most important to YOU, because other people will differ in their opinions of what's most important (ie making money or spending time with family) every day.

if i had a (husband) and kids and i'd have to be away for that long, i don't think i'd do it for a long term. if you're thinking about collecting and saving money then you should for a few years as long as it doesn't really kill you. but really, working that much and being away from the people you love if you want to be with them isn't worth it. Get a lesser paying job so you can live happily and comfortably, and still have free time to play video games, or if you have kids, spend time with them.
a happy medium would be finding balance in your life - working for that long each week certainly doesn't seem like balance, especially if you've got a family. it would seem like your job would take over your life soon, you would become obsessed with it. with making money and working. if that's what you want by all means go for it, but personally i don't think it's worth it.
 
This question isnt too good compared to one I was asked in my Economics class:

Would you work at a job (where they would train you for everything you need to know, doing all sorts of different tasks), where you work from the time you got out of High School until you were 35. 15 Hours a day, 7 days a week. At the end you would be paid $5 Million after taxes. Would you?
 
depends on the job. 105 hrs a week? I'd only consider it if it was something I really enjoyed doing. Also, 5 million at the end? what about during the 17-18 years you're working there?
 
[quote name='mrtoki']depends on the job. 105 hrs a week? I'd only consider it if it was something I really enjoyed doing. Also, 5 million at the end? what about during the 17-18 years you're working there?[/quote]

Forgot to mention. They pay $100 a week. The company does provide a house/car/insurance though.
 
[quote name='Darkpaul']But would there be a way to, as some suggested on the post, I think, to live cheaply and build your fortune? Work hard for awhile, then see if you can somehow live off interest (doubtful, with today's rates) or somehow make wise investments. All I'm sayin' is (I believe this is the age) 65 is a long time to work. Some of us may die before we retire, maybe shortly thereafter, maybe longer... rather depressing. I'd rather be on the beach, drinking pena coladas, playin all the games I want, playin with the lady(ies) (or men, if that's your deal) and just enjoy life.

...looking back, it seems unrealistic. But then again, how realistic is it to expect to do something you don't like most of your life for far less than you should and not complain?

FYI, i'm not actually this depressing or (perhaps macabre is a better term
for this subject), it just brings out the "best" in me, heh.[/quote]


65!! HA why 65? The government has set the year at 65 for people over 45 or something like that. But lets face it there will not be in social security for those of us in our 20s... The way I see it I am going to have to work till I die unless some other plan of action happens. Even if my wife and I pull down over 100k a year it will not cover the inflaction and the tax increases that will have to occur on the middle class soon!
 
[quote name='SS4Brolly']This question isnt too good compared to one I was asked in my Economics class:

Would you work at a job (where they would train you for everything you need to know, doing all sorts of different tasks), where you work from the time you got out of High School until you were 35. 15 Hours a day, 7 days a week. At the end you would be paid $5 Million after taxes. Would you?[/quote]

Would all my bills be paid while I was working there? If it covered all my expenses while working there then I would say yes... because I could retire at 35 and have one hell of a good time on that interest.
 
[quote name='Indiana']Would all my bills be paid while I was working there? If it covered all my expenses while working there then I would say yes... because I could retire at 35 and have one hell of a good time on that interest.[/quote]

Yup. All Bills paid.
 
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