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ARgh lame.
Game-specific friend codes confirmed; and there was much rejoicing. Yay.
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[quote name='Nintendo CS Rep']Let me assure you that your concerns have been heard and will be forwarded along.[/quote]
:lol:
If that means anything like what it means at my work, it means at most the CSR yelling something to his supervisor about a customer not being happy, and the supervisor yelling back, "Ok," and then both going back to working on something else.
:lol:
If that means anything like what it means at my work, it means at most the CSR yelling something to his supervisor about a customer not being happy, and the supervisor yelling back, "Ok," and then both going back to working on something else.
[quote name='Tybee']
I know Nintendo's most worried about kids being molested by adults, but quite honestly, as an adult who has seen what happens on XBL, I'm more afraid of being molested by kids:
"WHATTHE
YOU RETARDED OLD PIECE OF SHIT!? I'LL FRAG YOUR QUEER ASS BACK TO IRAQ, MOTHERER!!! SHIT!!! I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE ON MY TEAM. SUCK MY DICK, BITCH!!!"
And so on...[/QUOTE]
See, this is what I keep hearing about Live and it makes me not want to touch the online aspects of the 360 with a 10 foot pole. So I can see where Nintendo is coming from - though, of course, the Wii friend's list should be enough...
I know Nintendo's most worried about kids being molested by adults, but quite honestly, as an adult who has seen what happens on XBL, I'm more afraid of being molested by kids:
"WHATTHE
YOU RETARDED OLD PIECE OF SHIT!? I'LL FRAG YOUR QUEER ASS BACK TO IRAQ, MOTHERER!!! SHIT!!! I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE ON MY TEAM. SUCK MY DICK, BITCH!!!"And so on...[/QUOTE]
See, this is what I keep hearing about Live and it makes me not want to touch the online aspects of the 360 with a 10 foot pole. So I can see where Nintendo is coming from - though, of course, the Wii friend's list should be enough...
[quote name='io']See, this is what I keep hearing about Live and it makes me not want to touch the online aspects of the 360 with a 10 foot pole. So I can see where Nintendo is coming from - though, of course, the Wii friend's list should be enough...[/QUOTE]
It's really not that bad on Live. Seriously.
If you're playing a game like Gears of War, well, you're "SUPPOSED" to be 17 or 18 (is it 17?), so if you're worried about a kid hearing some ZOMG NAUGHTY LANGUAGE..then they wouldn't be playing a game like GoW.
But also, on live, there's parental controls. There's a mute and block feature. You have control of what you want to listen to and not.
Live is a great service, and people (no matter the age) are always gonna be people. Sadly, we can never change people as a whole..so it's just something we gotta deal (or use the block feature LOL)
It's really not that bad on Live. Seriously.
If you're playing a game like Gears of War, well, you're "SUPPOSED" to be 17 or 18 (is it 17?), so if you're worried about a kid hearing some ZOMG NAUGHTY LANGUAGE..then they wouldn't be playing a game like GoW.
But also, on live, there's parental controls. There's a mute and block feature. You have control of what you want to listen to and not.
Live is a great service, and people (no matter the age) are always gonna be people. Sadly, we can never change people as a whole..so it's just something we gotta deal (or use the block feature LOL)
Scobie
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[quote name='io']See, this is what I keep hearing about Live and it makes me not want to touch the online aspects of the 360 with a 10 foot pole. So I can see where Nintendo is coming from - though, of course, the Wii friend's list should be enough...[/QUOTE]
I was really concerned about this, too, but a lot of it depends on the game like lilboo said. I've met some really nice people on Uno and some real choads on Burger King's Pocketbike Racer. Actually met some cool people on Tony Hawk Project 8, too, including a couple of kids who let me join in on an achievement hunt (play 50 games on-line).
The best part is the ease in being able to connect with friends -- people you know and trust -- and being able to actually talk with them while playing.
From a parent's perspective, you should probably be really restricting the XBL use for the kids with the parental controls features, but for yourself it'll be fine. Dive in. I'm continually impressed (and spoiled) by how good it is.
I was really concerned about this, too, but a lot of it depends on the game like lilboo said. I've met some really nice people on Uno and some real choads on Burger King's Pocketbike Racer. Actually met some cool people on Tony Hawk Project 8, too, including a couple of kids who let me join in on an achievement hunt (play 50 games on-line).
The best part is the ease in being able to connect with friends -- people you know and trust -- and being able to actually talk with them while playing.
From a parent's perspective, you should probably be really restricting the XBL use for the kids with the parental controls features, but for yourself it'll be fine. Dive in. I'm continually impressed (and spoiled) by how good it is.
[quote name='Scobie']I was really concerned about this, too, but a lot of it depends on the game like lilboo said. I've met some really nice people on Uno and some real choads on Burger King's Pocketbike Racer. Actually met some cool people on Tony Hawk Project 8, too, including a couple of kids who let me join in on an achievement hunt (play 50 games on-line).
The best part is the ease in being able to connect with friends -- people you know and trust -- and being able to actually talk with them while playing.
From a parent's perspective, you should probably be really restricting the XBL use for the kids with the parental controls features, but for yourself it'll be fine. Dive in. I'm continually impressed (and spoiled) by how good it is.[/quote]
Once I have my 360, you and I will have to get into some co-op or something.
The best part is the ease in being able to connect with friends -- people you know and trust -- and being able to actually talk with them while playing.
From a parent's perspective, you should probably be really restricting the XBL use for the kids with the parental controls features, but for yourself it'll be fine. Dive in. I'm continually impressed (and spoiled) by how good it is.[/quote]
Once I have my 360, you and I will have to get into some co-op or something.
Scobie
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[quote name='yukine']Once I have my 360, you and I will have to get into some co-op or something.[/QUOTE]
Hell's yes! I'd even break my rule of not buying a 360 game at full price if I knew there was a decent group of CAGs to play with, but the XBL Arcade stuff can be hilarious good times, too.
Hell's yes! I'd even break my rule of not buying a 360 game at full price if I knew there was a decent group of CAGs to play with, but the XBL Arcade stuff can be hilarious good times, too.
thegarageband
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It's free. Deal.
Oops! I did it again.
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^ dmaul, are you not going to play Wii at all because of this? You can still add friends, still play random matches, etc.
Also, I'm GLAD I entered in all of the friend codes I did. I plan to message most of the folks on my list when I get, say, Pokemon and any other Wii online title and say "Hey, I've got Pokemon, my FC is such-and-such, let me know yours!" It'd take like 15-20 mins tops to do that for my whole list. Then I'll wait a day, get all the replies, enter the new codes, and it's done.
An inconvienence? Hell yes. But I can bear that.
Also, I'm GLAD I entered in all of the friend codes I did. I plan to message most of the folks on my list when I get, say, Pokemon and any other Wii online title and say "Hey, I've got Pokemon, my FC is such-and-such, let me know yours!" It'd take like 15-20 mins tops to do that for my whole list. Then I'll wait a day, get all the replies, enter the new codes, and it's done.
An inconvienence? Hell yes. But I can bear that.
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']^ dmaul, are you not going to play Wii at all because of this? You can still add friends, still play random matches, etc.
Also, I'm GLAD I entered in all of the friend codes I did. I plan to message most of the folks on my list when I get, say, Pokemon and any other Wii online title and say "Hey, I've got Pokemon, my FC is such-and-such, let me know yours!" It'd take like 15-20 mins tops to do that for my whole list. Then I'll wait a day, get all the replies, enter the new codes, and it's done.
An inconvienence? Hell yes. But I can bear that.[/quote]I'm still not convinced that they won't use the system friend codes to streamline this process, and require manual additions for people who aren't on the list.
I could actually see some advantage to someone. Maybe there's someone you want to play in Mario Kart, but don't want sending you email messages. Bingo!
Also, I'm GLAD I entered in all of the friend codes I did. I plan to message most of the folks on my list when I get, say, Pokemon and any other Wii online title and say "Hey, I've got Pokemon, my FC is such-and-such, let me know yours!" It'd take like 15-20 mins tops to do that for my whole list. Then I'll wait a day, get all the replies, enter the new codes, and it's done.
An inconvienence? Hell yes. But I can bear that.[/quote]I'm still not convinced that they won't use the system friend codes to streamline this process, and require manual additions for people who aren't on the list.
I could actually see some advantage to someone. Maybe there's someone you want to play in Mario Kart, but don't want sending you email messages. Bingo!
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']^ dmaul, are you not going to play Wii at all because of this? You can still add friends, still play random matches, etc.
Also, I'm GLAD I entered in all of the friend codes I did. I plan to message most of the folks on my list when I get, say, Pokemon and any other Wii online title and say "Hey, I've got Pokemon, my FC is such-and-such, let me know yours!" It'd take like 15-20 mins tops to do that for my whole list. Then I'll wait a day, get all the replies, enter the new codes, and it's done.
An inconvienence? Hell yes. But I can bear that.[/quote]Actually, that wouldn't be an awful alternate implementation to what I hope they do (basically what daroga just mentioned above)... at least all the time I spent entering codes up front will mean I don't have to go find people on message boards and IM to give them new codes, I already have them set up to send and receive messages.
Also, I'm GLAD I entered in all of the friend codes I did. I plan to message most of the folks on my list when I get, say, Pokemon and any other Wii online title and say "Hey, I've got Pokemon, my FC is such-and-such, let me know yours!" It'd take like 15-20 mins tops to do that for my whole list. Then I'll wait a day, get all the replies, enter the new codes, and it's done.
An inconvienence? Hell yes. But I can bear that.[/quote]Actually, that wouldn't be an awful alternate implementation to what I hope they do (basically what daroga just mentioned above)... at least all the time I spent entering codes up front will mean I don't have to go find people on message boards and IM to give them new codes, I already have them set up to send and receive messages.
Oops! I did it again.
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Very good point, daroga. It makes too much sense NOT to have at LEAST that feature available. Hell, since game developers have access to the Wii's internal friend code list, might they do that themselves? Like you check off the people you want to notify of your friend code for the game, then it'll automatically set it up to send the messages? Sure seems like it'd be like an incredibly easy move on every angle with few-if-any potential logistical issues.
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']^ dmaul, are you not going to play Wii at all because of this? You can still add friends, still play random matches, etc.
Also, I'm GLAD I entered in all of the friend codes I did. I plan to message most of the folks on my list when I get, say, Pokemon and any other Wii online title and say "Hey, I've got Pokemon, my FC is such-and-such, let me know yours!" It'd take like 15-20 mins tops to do that for my whole list. Then I'll wait a day, get all the replies, enter the new codes, and it's done.
An inconvienence? Hell yes. But I can bear that.[/QUOTE]
I'll probably try out random matches, but I imagine it will be ruined by douches just like the people who snake all the time in Mario Kart DS.
I'm not a big fan of online gaming in general, so this isn't a huge deal to me. It's just a matter of it being such an inconvenience that I'll be less likely to bother with it and give it much of a chance. I just don't have the interest or the time really.
I'd be more inclined to try if there was a unified friends list as I could put some people on it from another forum I frequent, as well as any friends that end up getting a Wii (none of mine have one now, mostly have 360s), as it would be much easier to get games going with decent people on a consistent basis.
Not having unified friends lists means we won't be able to see when someone hops online, what game they are playing, etc. like you can on Live, and those features make it much easier.
Now it will probably be like the DS were you have to cooridnate with friends online or off to get on at the same time and hope it actually matches you up.
Also, I'm GLAD I entered in all of the friend codes I did. I plan to message most of the folks on my list when I get, say, Pokemon and any other Wii online title and say "Hey, I've got Pokemon, my FC is such-and-such, let me know yours!" It'd take like 15-20 mins tops to do that for my whole list. Then I'll wait a day, get all the replies, enter the new codes, and it's done.
An inconvienence? Hell yes. But I can bear that.[/QUOTE]
I'll probably try out random matches, but I imagine it will be ruined by douches just like the people who snake all the time in Mario Kart DS.
I'm not a big fan of online gaming in general, so this isn't a huge deal to me. It's just a matter of it being such an inconvenience that I'll be less likely to bother with it and give it much of a chance. I just don't have the interest or the time really.
I'd be more inclined to try if there was a unified friends list as I could put some people on it from another forum I frequent, as well as any friends that end up getting a Wii (none of mine have one now, mostly have 360s), as it would be much easier to get games going with decent people on a consistent basis.
Not having unified friends lists means we won't be able to see when someone hops online, what game they are playing, etc. like you can on Live, and those features make it much easier.
Now it will probably be like the DS were you have to cooridnate with friends online or off to get on at the same time and hope it actually matches you up.
[quote name='dmaul1114']/\
Even moreso when PS3's is free as well and much more user friendly with global friends lists, ability to see which friends are online and what they are playing, send invites etc.[/QUOTE]
But again you're ignoring the fact that Sony has billions to waste and Nintendo doesn't.
"That doesn't get factored in" you'll say.
Yeah, right.
Even moreso when PS3's is free as well and much more user friendly with global friends lists, ability to see which friends are online and what they are playing, send invites etc.[/QUOTE]
But again you're ignoring the fact that Sony has billions to waste and Nintendo doesn't.
"That doesn't get factored in" you'll say.
Yeah, right.
[quote name='Strell']But again you're ignoring the fact that Sony has billions to waste and Nintendo doesn't.
"That doesn't get factored in" you'll say.
Yeah, right.[/QUOTE]
As I said in the other thread, I don't care. I just want a quality experience.
It matters to Nintendo for sure, it doesn't matter to me as the end user. I don't give a shit about their bottom line. If they want me to keep the Wii and shell out $50 for their games, they have to deliver an experience I feel is worth my gaming dollars.
That's all I'm saying. Not that the financial situation of the companies don't matter, just that I don't care and my dollars will go to the one that can give me the most gaming value for my dollar.
That's usually been Nintendo since their consoles have been cheaper and their first party games are my favorite. But I'm starting to waiver this gen as I'm not digging the motion controls much, and their lack of a solid online plan is leaving a bad taste in my mouth after playing on Live at my friends a lot lately.
"That doesn't get factored in" you'll say.
Yeah, right.[/QUOTE]
As I said in the other thread, I don't care. I just want a quality experience.
It matters to Nintendo for sure, it doesn't matter to me as the end user. I don't give a shit about their bottom line. If they want me to keep the Wii and shell out $50 for their games, they have to deliver an experience I feel is worth my gaming dollars.
That's all I'm saying. Not that the financial situation of the companies don't matter, just that I don't care and my dollars will go to the one that can give me the most gaming value for my dollar.
That's usually been Nintendo since their consoles have been cheaper and their first party games are my favorite. But I'm starting to waiver this gen as I'm not digging the motion controls much, and their lack of a solid online plan is leaving a bad taste in my mouth after playing on Live at my friends a lot lately.
Sir_Fragalot
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So today I had some free time, bout 10:30 AM eastern so I was like hey haven't played myds for awhile, why don't I play a race or two online. So I spop in mario kart, select worldwide, it takes over 2 minutes to connect, it can only fine me one oponent who snakes and is 100x better than me, I shut off the ds mid second race after I figured I had no chance to win.
Yeah Nintendo, please DO NOT implement this system into the Wii. All I wanted is to play a peaceful game of MK but no your randomizer found me ONE guy worldwide who is 100x better than me, what the Nintendo, seriously now I know why I don't play my DS online, and although I will play my Wii online constantly due to Mario Soccer, I don't want this ing hassle every time to find a ing game.
Yeah Nintendo, please DO NOT implement this system into the Wii. All I wanted is to play a peaceful game of MK but no your randomizer found me ONE guy worldwide who is 100x better than me, what the
Nintendo, seriously now I know why I don't play my DS online, and although I will play my Wii online constantly due to Mario Soccer, I don't want this ing hassle every time to find a ing game.
NGC magazine is reporting that the UK version of Pokemon Battle Revolution will not have game specific friend codes. If true it could mean that the Japanese version only had them because for some reason the online SDK couldn't access the console friend codes, and the newer ones can.
Was just gonna post that, I'm so confused now. Updated story with scan:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=15093
http://gonintendo.com/?p=15093
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/foxrmf69/26032007035.jpg
The even juicier part of the article:
The even juicier part of the article:
Sounds less like setting up their own servers and just making up their own rules for online play. Though what that means is unclear. I suppose "without friend codes" would mean using the system code or address book.
[quote name='botticus']http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/foxrmf69/26032007035.jpg
The even juicier part of the article:
Sounds less like setting up their own servers and just making up their own rules for online play. Though what that means is unclear. I suppose "without friend codes" would mean using the system code or address book.[/quote]
Maybe a simple lobby system?
The even juicier part of the article:
Sounds less like setting up their own servers and just making up their own rules for online play. Though what that means is unclear. I suppose "without friend codes" would mean using the system code or address book.[/quote]
Maybe a simple lobby system?
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