GameFly Nightly Deals: Cars 2 $13, Lego: Pirates $15, LittleBigPlanet 2 $18

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There seems to be a new different sale at GameFly, so please continue discussion there: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306081

[img-r=1]1372[/img-r]GameFly's nightly deals feature low prices and free shipping on the below titles. GameFly's games come complete with manual, case, and online passes. The games are guaranteed and are usually in excellent condition.

Note: No new nightly deals this week, but GF's monthly sale is coming this week.

:360: Cars 2 $12.99
:wii: Cars 2 $12.99
:ds: Cars 2 $9.99
:ps3: LittleBigPlanet 2 $17.99
:360: LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean $14.99
:ps3: LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean $14.99
:wii: LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean $12.99
:ds: LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean $9.99
:psp: LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean $9.99



[Expired] [hiddenlist]
Wednesday's Deals:
:360: Marvel vs Capcom 3 $9.99
:ps3: Marvel vs Capcom 3 $9.99
:360: L.A. Noire $19.99
:ps3: L.A. Noire $19.99
:ps3: SOCOM 4 $19.99


Columbus Day weekend deals:
:360: Crysis 2 $14.99
:ps3: Crysis 2 $14.99
:ps3: Red Dead Undead Nightmare $9.99
:360: Red Dead Undead Nightmare $9.99
:360: Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood $14.99
:ps3: Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood $14.99

Also, past deals rise from your grave!
:360: Brink $9.99
:ps3: Brink $9.99
:360: Bulletstorm $9.99
:ps3: Bulletstorm $9.99
:360: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow $12.99
:ps3: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow $12.99
:360: Dead Space 2 $12.99
:ps3: Dead Space 2 $12.99
:360: Dragon Age II $12.99
:ps3: Dragon Age II $12.99
:360: Duke Nukem Forever $9.99
:ps3: Duke Nukem Forever $9.99
:360: Homefront $12.99
:ps3: Homefront $12.99
:360: Red Faction: Armageddon $12.99
:ps3: Red Faction: Armageddon $12.99



Wednesday's deals:
:ps3: Infamous $14.99
:ps3: Killzone 3 $14.99
:ps3: Red Dead Redemption $12.99
:360: Transformers: War for Cybertron $12.99
:wii: Just Dance 2 $14.99
:wii: Disney Epic Mickey $12.99

Monday's Deals:
:360: Mafia II $7.99
:ps3: Mafia II $7.99
:360: Enslaved: Odyssey to the West $9.99
:ps3: Enslaved: Odyssey to the West $9.99

Friday's Deals:
:360: Singularity $7.99
:ps3: Singularity $7.99
:360: Dead Rising 2 $9.99
:ps3: Dead Rising 2 $9.99
:360: Dragon Age II $12.99
:ps3: Dragon Age II $12.99

Tuesday's Deals:
:360: Dead Space 2 $12.99
:ps3: Dead Space 2 $12.99
:360: Red Faction: Armageddon $12.99
:ps3: Red Faction: Armageddon $12.99
:360: Two Worlds II $9.99
:ps3: Two Worlds II $9.99


Monday's Deals:
:360: Brink $9.99
:ps3: Brink $9.99
:360: Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit $9.99
:ps3: Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit $9.99
:360: Duke Nukem Forever $9.99
:ps3: Duke Nukem Forever $9.99

Friday-Sunday Deals
:360: Game Party: In Motion $9.99
:360: Test Drive Unlimited 2 $9.99
:360: Carnival Games: Monkey See Monkey Do $14.99
:360: Homefront $12.99
:ps3: Homefront $12.99
:ps3: Portal 2 $19.99

Thursday's Deals
:360: Dance Paradise $9.99
:360: Splatterhouse $12.99
:360: Child of Eden $19.99
:ps3: Fallout: New Vegas $9.99
:ps3: Bulletstorm $9.99

Wednesday's Deals
:360: Kinect Joyride $9.99
:360: Fighters Uncaged $9.99
:360: Kinectimals $12.99
:360: Michael Jackson $14.99
:360: Dance Central $17.99

Tuesday's Deals
:360: Bulletstorm $9.99
:360: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow $12.99
:ps3: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow $12.99
:360: Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions $9.99
:ps3: Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions $9.99[/hiddenlist]
 
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Got my copy of Spiderman Shattered Dimensions today. Played it a bit and so far it's fun. Now to finish it before it's trade-in value drops from all the hoarders/flippers so I can get as much for it as possible.

Also Deadpool level, loved it.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']You can't have it both ways. You can't say you are all for capitalism and then say the guy can't buy up all the games to then flip them for profit. Either he has the right to buy up all the supply to sell or he doesn't. You can't say he can buy games to flip but he can only buy 1.

I think it sucks and only hurts those on this site by hoarding and flipping games.[/QUOTE]

There is a median or good side to capitalism and then there is the darkside (over indulgence) which is the extremity. There is a good and bad to everything. ;) Just ask Darth Vader or should I say Anakin Skywalker.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']You can't have it both ways. You can't say you are all for capitalism and then say the guy can't buy up all the games to then flip them for profit. Either he has the right to buy up all the supply to sell or he doesn't. You can't say he can buy games to flip but he can only buy 1.

I think it sucks and only hurts those on this site by hoarding and flipping games.[/QUOTE]

I would think moderation would be the key when/if someone does find something to flip. I very rarely do that with anything, and it's NEVER from awesome deals like this online (just local B&M clearance, and even then, one extra copy at most, if even that. Hell, I play through most of the games I find that way anyways first before getting rid of it).

:cool:

But really, any more than that is just being an asshole.

Back on topic, can't wait for Bulletstorm to arrive on Monday.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']You can't have it both ways. You can't say you are all for capitalism and then say the guy can't buy up all the games to then flip them for profit. Either he has the right to buy up all the supply to sell or he doesn't. You can't say he can buy games to flip but he can only buy 1.

I think it sucks and only hurts those on this site by hoarding and flipping games.[/QUOTE]

Here is the definition of capitalism in case you didn't know.

Capitalism- An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

So am I for capitalism yes. Am I against greedy people who twist the definition of capitalism to justify themselves. Yes. Back on topic as Nuclearporkchop put it. I haven't received Castlevania nor Spiderman yet as well. Hopefully by Monday. Fingers crossed.
 
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Where does "Capitalism- An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." say anything about profiting but only a little bit. Profit is controlled by private owners, if the person wants to buy a million of something to profit then they can.

I again am against hoarding and flipping but I can't see how anyone can argue for capitalism and then be mad when someone is profiting. It is regulated privately meaning if you don't like it don't buy it but they certainly have the right to hoard.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']Where does "Capitalism- An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." say anything about profiting but only a little bit. Profit is controlled by private owners, if the person wants to buy a million of something to profit then they can.

I again am against hoarding and flipping but I can't see how anyone can argue for capitalism and then be mad when someone is profiting. It is regulated privately meaning if you don't like it don't buy it but they certainly have the right to hoard.[/QUOTE]

You obviously haven't read the previous posts. I'll spell it out for you. There is good capitalism and bad capitalism. There are greedy scumbags and non scumbags who aren't greedy. Also I'm for private owners controlling their trade rather than the government and making profits.
 
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[quote name='Explayer85']There is a median or good side to capitalism and then there is the darkside (over indulgence) which is the extremity. There is a good and bad to everything. ;) Just ask Darth Vader or should I say Anakin Skywalker.[/QUOTE]
WTF you just spoiled starwars for me :/
 
[quote name='Explayer85']You obviously haven't read the previous posts. I'll spell it out for you. There is good capitalism and bad capitalism. There are greedy scumbags and non scumbags who aren't greedy.[/QUOTE]

Haha no.
If you're selling 10 cars for 5k each and I know there all worth 15k if buy them all off of you for your five why do you think it's okay to be upset when I sell them for profit? I you made your cash why can't I see a return on investment?
 
[quote name='DudeImGodly']WTF you just spoiled starwars for me :/[/QUOTE]

You really didn't know? lol. Don't tell me you didn't know Darth Vader was Luke's father neither.
 
[quote name='Explayer85']You obviously haven't read the previous posts. I'll spell it out for you. There is good capitalism and bad capitalism. There are greedy scumbags and non scumbags who aren't greedy. Also I'm for private owners controlling their trade rather than the government and making profits.[/QUOTE]

So, you are for private owners controlling the trade but you want to limit the amount they can buy and sell? You are against a government agency stepping in and regulating but you want it regulated so people can only profit a little bit and not be greedy.

So, your version of capitalism is that the private owners have no say in how much they can profit and outside citizens who are not financially involved are to regulate, wow.

There is no good or bad capitalism. The private owners in this case GF and the guy buying 20 copies of each game are controlling the profit. Any outsider who thinks hoarding sucks is not involved and has no say other than to just not buy the flipped games. An outsider has no right to tell GF or the buyer how many games they can buy or sell or how much profit they can make.

This is going no where, clearly our financial situation is in good hands if your system goes into effect :drool: .
 
Seriously please stop. This will go no where.

On second thought, we do have until Monday night until this sale start again. Argue away guys.
 
[quote name='DudeImGodly']Haha no.
If you're selling 10 cars for 5k each and I know there all worth 15k if buy them all off of you for your five why do you think it's okay to be upset when I sell them for profit? I you made your cash why can't I see a return on investment?[/QUOTE]

You're not getting it. I am for making profit aka "flipping", but against "hoarding" aka a monopoly by buying f***ing everything. Which is illegal by the way, but somehow corporations get away with it. I am for government regulation not government control stop putting words in my mouth iwannadie. Iwannadie you are on a different page and not even making any sense let's just get back on topic.
 
[quote name='Explayer85']You're not getting it. I am for making profit aka "flipping", but against "hoarding" aka a monopoly by buying f***ing everything. Which is illegal by the way, but somehow corporations get away with it.[/QUOTE]

I don't think the guy buying 20 copies of spiderman off of GF now has a monopoly on spiderman games....
 
That's weird, i tried to buy 2 copies of homefront last night but it said 1 per customer is the limit. How did this guy got multiple copies of a game?
 
[quote name='iwannadie']So, you are for private owners controlling the trade but you want to limit the amount they can buy and sell? You are against a government agency stepping in and regulating but you want it regulated so people can only profit a little bit and not be greedy.

So, your version of capitalism is that the private owners have no say in how much they can profit and outside citizens who are not financially involved are to regulate, wow.

There is no good or bad capitalism. The private owners in this case GF and the guy buying 20 copies of each game are controlling the profit. Any outsider who thinks hoarding sucks is not involved and has no say other than to just not buy the flipped games. An outsider has no right to tell GF or the buyer how many games they can buy or sell or how much profit they can make.

This is going no where, clearly our financial situation is in good hands if your system goes into effect :drool: .[/QUOTE]
Gonna cut in and say GF does only allow 2 copies per title per platform with these sales.
Also the guy doesn't understand capitalism it seems as if he wants a heavy regulated system that seems like it's more locked in as communism. He wants a system where profit is little for anyone but the provider.
 
[quote name='kouleefoh']That's weird, i tried to buy 2 copies of homefront last night but it said 1 per customer is the limit. How did this guy got multiple copies of a game?[/QUOTE]

Buy earlier. I was able too get two of homefront on each platform.
 
[quote name='DudeImGodly']Gonna cut in and say GF does only allow 2 copies per title per platform with these sales.
Also the guy doesn't understand capitalism it seems as if he wants a heavy regulated system that seems like it's more locked in as communism. He wants a system where profit is little for anyone but the provider.[/QUOTE]

You guys are just on a different page. Please look into the definition of Capitalism. Then go to College so you can stop "hoarding" and "flipping" games for a living.
 
[quote name='DudeImGodly']Gonna cut in and say GF does only allow 2 copies per title per platform with these sales.
Also the guy doesn't understand capitalism it seems as if he wants a heavy regulated system that seems like it's more locked in as communism. He wants a system where profit is little for anyone but the provider.[/QUOTE]

I am glad GF is limiting copies then, I was going on what the other guy said when he claimed he was buying many copes.

I agree that it sounds like he wants small profit spread out to everyone which is not capitalism in any way.

I could argue that GF is hoarding games and has a monopoly and the guy who claimed to buy multiple copies is just liberating a small amount back to the consumers.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']I am glad GF is limiting copies then, I was going on what the other guy said when he claimed he was buying many copes.

I agree that it sounds like he wants small profit spread out to everyone which is not capitalism in any way.

I could argue that GF is hoarding games and has a monopoly and the guy who claimed to buy multiple copies is just liberating a small amount back to the consumers.[/QUOTE]

Since you guy's obviously didn't pass government in high school. I'll make this dummy proof as much as I can. Am I (the private party) for buying something for a $1 and selling it for 2$? Yes. Is this a form of capitalism? Yes. Do I want the government to control what to sell or for how much? No. That is communism. Do I want the government to regulate and enforce laws on these private parties such as Microsoft who got busted for an O.S. Monopoly. Yes
 
fuck!!!!! I was mulling it over for a couple hours and finally decided to cave in and get 2 copies of Portal 2 and Homefront for :ps3:. Now lets just hope they get here before the end of next week.
 
If someone buys all the copies of Modern Warfare 3 in the U.S. That's when the government needs to step in and charge that person. Because they have a monopoly on Modern Warfare 3 and can charge whatever they want because there is no competition. Therefore a monopoly and here is the definition of Monopoly. Please don't make me explain as well.

Monopoly - The exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.
 
[quote name='Explayer85']Since you guy's obviously didn't pass government in high school. I'll make this dummy proof as much as I can. Am I (the private party) for buying something for a $1 and selling it for 2$? Yes. Is this a form of capitalism? Yes. Do I want the government to control what to sell or for how much? No. That is communism. Do I want the government to regulate and enforce laws on these private parties such as Microsoft who got busted for an O.S. Monopoly. Yes[/QUOTE]

If I want to buy 20 of the same thing you want to buy and then I want to sell them for $1.50 who is to deny me?
 
[quote name='iwannadie']If I want to buy 20 of the same thing you want to buy and then I want to sell them for $1.50 who is to deny me?[/QUOTE]

No one. As long as you don't buy out your competition. Then that's when the U.S. government knocks on your door.
 
[quote name='Explayer85']No one. As long as you don't buy out your competition.[/QUOTE]

Who ever said anything about buying out the competition. This all came from the guy who said he bought multiple copies of some games, not about controlling all the games in the country.

[quote name='Explayer85']However I have a problem with "Hoarding". Why you ask? Because "hoarding" displays characteristics of greed as well as a person who has no regard for others, but themselves. In this case there were people who waited to to buy Castlevania, Bullet Storm, Spider Man, ect at a CAG price, but were S.O.L., because some "hoarder" bought 10 copies of the same game or everything in stock. It disgusts me.[/QUOTE]

Someone who buys 10 copies of the same game is not attempting a monopoly on that game, they are profiting under the very definition of capitalism.
 
Let's wrap this all up in an easy to understand scenario.

Wombat Game Emporium has an over stock of duke nuke'em and needs to clear out the warehouse fast. Fair market value of the game is $20 but WGE wants to clean the games out fast and decides to sell them half price.

Shipwreck walks into WGE and sees 100 copies of duke nuke'em for half price and does some fast math, he realizes he can buy them all and sell them for $15 each under cutting fair market value and still profit. He offers to buy all 100 copies of duke nuke'em and WGE can either deny him and say the sale is a customer reward sale and is 1 per customer. Or, WGE can seize the opportunity to clear out all 100 copies instantly and sell shipwreck all 100 games.

Now, CheapyD walks into the WGE hoping to buy a single copy of duke nuk'em at half price for $10 but sees shipwreck walking away with all 100 copies. WGE tells cheapyd they are all sold out of duke nuke'em and that he will have to buy it else where.

Cheapyd now has the choice to buy it from shipwreck at a smaller discount and enforce shipwrecks business plan or cheapyd can go else where and pay full market value. Cheapyd has no right to argue or intervene in the deal between WGE and shipwreck. Cheapyd has just witnessed capitalism.
 
[quote name='iwannadie']Who ever said anything about buying out the competition. This all came from the guy who said he bought multiple copies of some games, not about controlling all the games in the country.



Someone who buys 10 copies of the same game is not attempting a monopoly on that game, they are profiting under the very definition of capitalism.[/QUOTE]

Omg! The CAG universe of "Hoarding" has nothing to do with the real world political stand point of Capitalism. Is he going to buy a game for 10$ and sell it for 20$. Yes. Is he capitalizing yes. Is he a "hoarder" in the CAG universe. Yes. Do I despise hoarders yes. I'm going to bed goodnight.
 
[quote name='Explayer85']Since you guy's obviously didn't pass government in high school. I'll make this dummy proof as much as I can. Am I (the private party) for buying something for a $1 and selling it for 2$? Yes. Is this a form of capitalism? Yes. Do I want the government to control what to sell or for how much? No. That is communism. Do I want the government to regulate and enforce laws on these private parties such as Microsoft who got busted for an O.S. Monopoly. Yes[/QUOTE]

I'll dummy it up some more for you since there is one statement that is glaringly inaccurate. In the highlighted statement you are speaking more towards a totalitarian regime (MAYBE socialism depending on it's size and structure but it would be fairly extreme for that to be true). Communism, as a system, would actually have no sale, and no profit as there is no economy (everyone simply get's an equal share of what they need), in fact, in a true communist state there isn't even a government after a while. For the record, there has never actually been a true communist state, only states with some communist ideology (The U.S.S.R. was really a dictatorship with some basic communist philosophy at its' base, and oddly enough, so was Nazi Germany in many respects, despite their hatred for each other).

Also, keep in mind that from a legal standpoint corporations are people, and therefor (technically) any law that might apply to a corporation should also apply to an individual (although it seems to apply to individuals a lot more often than it does corporations). Not saying that people buying 20 copies are breaking any laws though, more a fun fact, that said they're still dicks. :lol:

[quote name='iwannadie']Let's wrap this all up in an easy to understand scenario.

Wombat Game Emporium has an over stock of duke nuke'em and needs to clear out the warehouse fast. Fair market value of the game is $20 but WGE wants to clean the games out fast and decides to sell them half price.

Shipwreck walks into WGE and sees 100 copies of duke nuke'em for half price and does some fast math, he realizes he can buy them all and sell them for $15 each under cutting fair market value and still profit. He offers to buy all 100 copies of duke nuke'em and WGE can either deny him and say the sale is a customer reward sale and is 1 per customer. Or, WGE can seize the opportunity to clear out all 100 copies instantly and sell shipwreck all 100 games.

Now, CheapyD walks into the WGE hoping to buy a single copy of duke nuk'em at half price for $10 but sees shipwreck walking away with all 100 copies. WGE tells cheapyd they are all sold out of duke nuke'em and that he will have to buy it else where.

Cheapyd now has the choice to buy it from shipwreck at a smaller discount and enforce shipwrecks business plan or cheapyd can go else where and pay full market value. Cheapyd has no right to argue or intervene in the deal between WGE and shipwreck. Cheapyd has just witnessed capitalism.[/QUOTE]

You're right that this would be legal but it's also kind of bad business. WGE will likely sell those games off sooner rather than later if the price is roughly 50% below market value, as is the case in your scenario, but by allowing one re-seller to purchase all their copies they do so at the detriment of their more legitimate consumers (legitimate meaning end-sale consumers, i.e. people who do not intend to simply re-sell the product). If you were Cheapyd in that scenario you would likely not buy from shipwreck, since he's the guy who just screwed you over, and you're less likely to buy from WGE again in the future since you now know that they have no policy limiting sale to re-sellers and any sale with them will be a race to beat them to the store. This is the very reason many stores put limits on how many copies of a sale item can be purchased by one individual. I had a friend who used to work at Best Buy and he commented how often someone would try to come in and purchase every copy of a fairly hot item (sometimes well over 20 copies if they just got a shipment) and would act like Best Buy had shit in their cereal when they were denied.
 
LMAO @ capitalism in flipping video games...do you get health insurance and non contributory pensions for that?

Seriously, the capitalistic pigs that want to 'capitalize' on other gamers at the expense of cutting gamers out of deals can go fuck themselves.

...Seriously

Enjoy that hold on your debit card douchebag.
 
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[quote name='BudzMcGee']

You're right that this would be legal but it's also kind of bad business. WGE will likely sell those games off sooner rather than later if the price is roughly 50% below market value, as is the case in your scenario, but by allowing one re-seller to purchase all their copies they do so at the detriment of their more legitimate consumers (legitimate meaning end-sale consumers, i.e. people who do not intend to simply re-sell the product). If you were Cheapyd in that scenario you would likely not buy from shipwreck, since he's the guy who just screwed you over, and you're less likely to buy from WGE again in the future since you now know that they have no policy limiting sale to re-sellers and any sale with them will be a race to beat them to the store. This is the very reason many stores put limits on how many copies of a sale item can be purchased by one individual. I had a friend who used to work at Best Buy and he commented how often someone would try to come in and purchase every copy of a fairly hot item (sometimes well over 20 copies if they just got a shipment) and would act like Best Buy had shit in their cereal when they were denied.[/QUOTE]

I agree and I again will say I hate hoarders and think that they ruin the very community(such as CAG) that they are a part of. This is also why black friday never makes sense to me. The stores should reward loyal customers with sales before they allow someone with the intent of re-selling to make a profit to get the sale.

My argument was for Explayer85, he seemed to want capitalism but not to allow people to profit too much, only a little bit which made sense.
 
Hoarding and/or flipping isn't exactly illegal, nor is it against breaking and CAG rules; but the majority of the CAG community consider it to be an unethical practice because it often adversely affects the ability of other CAG's to reap the benefits associated with being diligent members of the forums. In other words: hoard all you want, but you'd be smart to keep it to yourself, rather than broadcasting your selfish actions in the Gaming Deals forum.

Also, for the record: capitalism is a great system, but, like any other socio-economic structure, it's only sustainable if a society in its entirety adheres to a uniform code of ethics and accountability; sadly, the US as a whole has lost these ideals, which is why our economy will only continue to degrade until we're forced into socialism. Mark my words.
 
[quote name='kouleefoh']So let's play guess what will be on sale next?[/QUOTE]

Going out on a limb here, but possibly Dead Space 2, Shift 2, Dragon Age 2, Crysis 2, L.A Noire, MLB 11, and Baseball 2k11.

I would like to see Shadows of the Damned go on sale but it might be premature for that.
 
[quote name='boogie4114']Going out on a limb here, but possibly Dead Space 2, Shift 2, Dragon Age 2, Crysis 2, L.A Noire, MLB 11, and Baseball 2k11.

I would like to see Shadows of the Damned go on sale but it might be premature for that.[/QUOTE]

I'm hoping for Crysis 2 too.
 
[quote name='salty tbone']I have my fingers crossed for LA Noire[/QUOTE]

That has been on my list for a while now I would love to see that for cheap, I hate to even take a guess at a price though. Would $15 be too much to hope for or is that still a $20 game? I think it is right up there with portal 2 and that was just $20.
 
Hey guys sorry if this has already been answered, but what happens to online codes, and passes on used gmes on gamely? Are the codes usually used? Thanks

PD: im kinda hoping for a deal on LA. NOIRE. But i heard they are releasing like a new version with all the DLC's available. So thats a hard one for me.
 
[quote name='Blinkerizo']Hey guys sorry if this has already been answered, but what happens to online codes, and passes on used gmes on gamely? Are the codes usually used? Thanks

PD: im kinda hoping for a deal on LA. NOIRE. But i heard they are releasing like a new version with all the DLC's available. So thats a hard one for me.[/QUOTE]

every game I have ever ordered from GF have included unused DLC/ online passes.
 
[quote name='Blinkerizo']Hey guys sorry if this has already been answered, but what happens to online codes, and passes on used gmes on gamely? Are the codes usually used? Thanks

PD: im kinda hoping for a deal on LA. NOIRE. But i heard they are releasing like a new version with all the DLC's available. So thats a hard one for me.[/QUOTE]
Online codes should be included and unused because Gamefly does not send those out.

I would also like to see a complete edition of LA Noire, I hate buying DLC.
 
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