Games you loved with sequels you hated?

For me, Knights of the Old Republic 2 was one of the biggest disappointments for a sequel. The original KOTOR was great! Good storyline, great characters, and a great twist.

KOTOR 2 was a buggy piece of crap that had one of the worst endings. Here's a bunch of text, then the ship flies off. Fantastic!

I will also throw my vote for Prince of Persia: WW. The first one was so much fun, and WW basically sucked the soul out of the first.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I thought this was supposed to be about sequels you hate not just sequels that weren't as good as the original... anyway, I absolutely hated Starfox Adventures even though I'm not really sure it was a sequel to anything. It might be in my all time top 10 of most hated games. God dammit I hate that fucking piece of shit game. Thanks a lot OP - now I'm pissed just thinking about it...[/QUOTE]

Jesu Cristo man. I liked that game. Not loved, got it for $5, but liked. It was a little too cutesy for my taste, but anything Zelda-esque and from the big N tickles my fancy.
 
[quote name='psiufoxx2']Jesu Cristo man. I liked that game. Not loved, got it for $5, but liked. It was a little too cutesy for my taste, but anything Zelda-esque and from the big N tickles my fancy.[/QUOTE]

I can't explain in enough detail how horrible this game really is. I paid $10 for it and I don't think I've ever wasted $10 in worse fashion. This includes the time I lost my wallet, the time I actually got a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt, and the time I was so drunk at Scores that I actually bought a sandwich there. Oh what the hell... I'll try...

1. The controls were incredibly poor. There always seemed to be a delay after pressing a button with something happening on the screen. This is unbelievably annoying for a game like this and I expected better from Rare back then (not now though).

2. The levels were horribly designed. There was way too much backtracking with nothing to do. It felt like I was just running from point A to point B with no purpose at all. At least throw in some enemies or some platforming. Instead the designers included meandering paths! OMG will I ever figure it out?

3. The characters are so lame I don't even know where to begin. The Starfox characters generally suck but it's OK in Starfox and Starfox 64 because the characters don't matter at all - it's all about the gameplay. In an adventure game they should at least be likable. The dinosaurs were equally lame. There was nothing cute or bearable about it. No one gives a shit whether the entire cast of "heroes" in this game dies a horrible death. See Banjo-Kazooie for a "cute" game with semi-tolerable characters made by Rare that doesn't suck.

4. The graphics also sucked. Yeah, the character models were pretty but that's about it. Any interaction between characters and all of the environments were awful. Collision detection was way off and the transition between animations was non-existant.

5. The collecting. I know this has been beaten to death but this game has to be the final nail in the coffin - it's one banana away from becoming Donkey Kong 64 (another horrible game but nowhere near this bad). Just because it's something other than a coin or star doesn't mean I want to collect it. There are other games I love that use this tactic to prolong the length or whatever (See Mario 64, Sunshine, Jak & Daxter, etc.) but in Starfox Adventures it is beyond annoying. Scarabs, grub tubs, spores, pods, fireflies, fuel cells, moon seeds, eggs, etc. Just kill me please.

6. The Zelda comparisons. Besides the fact that they are both "video games" it's not even close.

7. The stupid characters that are supposed to be helpful but really just slow you down because they are fucking moronic. The computer AI rarely has a fucking clue what I'm trying to get that goddamn kid dinosaur to do. Hmmm, let's see, I called you over here because I'm standing on a patch of dirt and for some reason I don't ever want to get my hands dirty so I need you to dig for me but you just stand there with that fucking smile on your face doing nothing. Dig asshole.

8. The Arwing missions. Did they have to include these? I mean the whole game is half-ass (even though it was delayed a million times) so why not spend more time making the main game suck less instead of adding in more parts that suck?

9. The main weapon is the most boring thing I've ever seen in a video game. I wish I could have been at the meeting that greenlighted that idea...

Rare Designer: I've got a great idea... since video games are only limited by our imagination, how about we give Fox a long stick that he can swing at the bad guys with?

Head Rare Dumbass: That's freaking genius. Do it!!!!

10. The races are lame too. There's no sense of speed and the control is horrible. There's also no skill involved - just memorize the track and eventually you will win. There's nothing more fun than racing for 3 minutes only to forget to go right instead of left and lose so you have to do he entire thing again.

I could go on and on. God I hate this piece of shit game.
 
The Adventures of Link (NES) : Without a doubt. 15 years later, I still cannot get into this game. The orginal Zelda is one of my favorites, its "sequel" is horrible.

NHL 95 (Genesis) : No blood

Every Contra game on PS1
 
[quote name='mrnomis27']The Adventures of Link (NES) : Without a doubt. 15 years later, I still cannot get into this game. The orginal Zelda is one of my favorites, its "sequel" is horrible.[/QUOTE]

Really? It's definitely no where near as good but I wouldn't call it horrible..
 
Majora's Mask
Super Mario Sunshine
Warrior Within
POP2: Shadow and the Flame
Donkey Kong Country 3
NFSU2 was a travesty to the first
 
[quote name='MaskedPlague']For me, Knights of the Old Republic 2 was one of the biggest disappointments for a sequel. The original KOTOR was great! Good storyline, great characters, and a great twist.

KOTOR 2 was a buggy piece of crap that had one of the worst endings. Here's a bunch of text, then the ship flies off. Fantastic!

I will also throw my vote for Prince of Persia: WW. The first one was so much fun, and WW basically sucked the soul out of the first.[/QUOTE]


Strong agreement on both
 
[quote name='javeryh']Really? It's definitely no where near as good but I wouldn't call it horrible..[/QUOTE]

I guess I feel strongly about this. I want to like this game, but everytime I have ever attempted to play it I realize how bad it really is. If you like not having fun, then this game may suit you.
 
[quote name='Scorch']
I never played the third, how was it? I loved the first Tenchu. [/QUOTE]

I really liked the first PS2 Tenchu -- the third game in the series. It looked great, was relatively long (different levels for each character), and brought back everything good about the first game -- except the training level. "Lord Gohda expect much of you!"

I think the whole flavor of Tenchu is getting a little bland now, but for $20, Wrath of Heaven is well worth it. I rated it 9 out of 10 in the April '03 Game Informer. That review can be found at http://www.gameinformer.com , but today is one of the many days the site doesn't load for me.
 
[quote name='jlarlee']I actually thought VH1 was easier. Because i leveled up one of my characters in such a way that he had some kind of spell that did damage to almost everybody on the board.[/QUOTE]

For a second, I thought you were talking about the music network.
 
[quote name='ViolentLee']I really liked the first PS2 Tenchu -- the third game in the series. It looked great, was relatively long (different levels for each character), and brought back everything good about the first game -- except the training level. "Lord Gohda expect much of you!"

I think the whole flavor of Tenchu is getting a little bland now, but for $20, Wrath of Heaven is well worth it. I rated it 9 out of 10 in the April '03 Game Informer. That review can be found at http://www.gameinformer.com , but today is one of the many days the site doesn't load for me.[/QUOTE]

That is the one Tenchu that I really disliked when it came out. I don't know what it was to tell you the truth, but there was something about it that really bugged me when I rented it. The game seemed alright but I don't think it deserved such a high score of a 9. That is just being too generous. The game was a solid 7 to a 7.5 I would have to say.
 
[quote name='Squall280']Rocket Knight Adventure = Amazing
Sparkster = 5 steps back[/QUOTE]

Ah good ol' Rocket Knight...I remember that game from back in the day and it was awesome. Sparkster was 3 steps back in my book. Just wasn't as good as the first.
 
Metal Gear Solid on the GBC. I think I am going to give it another try this weekend, but so far it seems to be the only metal gear game I do not like (have yet to play Acid, and only have spent a minimal time playing MG2, though MG2 is quite awesome from what I have played)
 
[quote name='Wet Ninja']In case anyone is wondering, the reason that Mario 2 is so different from the rest of the series is that it wasn't really a Mario game. If I remember correctly, here's the story behind it: In Japan, Mario 2 is what was released on Mario All-Stars as The Lost Levels. It was deemed to difficult for American audiences, so they took a Japanese game named Doki Doki Panic, put Mario, Luigi, the Princess, and Toad, into it, and released it as Mario 2 (I think the mushroom power-up may have been added as well). The gameplay was pretty much unchanged from Doki Doki Panic, obviously; this explains why it's so different. Also, because the enemies weren't changed, you don't see Bowser or any of the traditional enemies from the Mario universe. Some of the enemies from that game have since come to be a part of the Mario universe (Shy Guy and Birdo, for example). In any case, the reason that it's so different is that it's really Doki Doki Panic.[/QUOTE]
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