GameStop massively increased trade in values of recent titles for Rewards members

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Just got this in an email.. What the crap is going on?! These values are insane.

Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why'd you steal... - 3DS $15.00
Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why'd you steal... - DS $15.00
Alice: Madness Returns - PS3 $20.00
Alice: Madness Returns - Xbox 360 $20.00
Amazing Spiderman - 3DS $15.00
Angry Birds Trilogy - 3DS $15.00
Angry Birds Trilogy - PS3 $20.00
Angry Birds Trilogy - Xbox 360 $20.00
Assassin's Creed - PS3 $15.00
Assassin's Creed Ezio Trilogy - PS3 $25.00
Assassin's Creed III - PS3 $35.00
Assassin's Creed III - Wii U $35.00
Assassin's Creed III - Xbox 360 $35.00
Assassin's Creed III Liberation - PS Vita $20.00
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition- Wii U $35.00
Batman: Arkham City Game of the Year Ed. - PS3 $25.00
Batman: Arkham City Game of the Year Ed. - Xbox 360 $20.00
Blitz, The League II - PS3 $15.00
Blitz, The League II - Xbox 360 $15.00
Borderlands 2 - PS3 $30.00
Bully: Scholarship Edition - Xbox 360 $15.00
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2013 - Wii $15.00
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2013 - Xbox 360 $20.00
Cabela's Hunting Expeditions - PS3 $20.00
Cabela's Hunting Expeditions - Xbox 360 $20.00
Call of Duty Black Ops - Wii $25.00
Call of Duty Black Ops 2 - PS3 $40.00
Call of Duty Black Ops 2 - Wii U $40.00
Call of Duty Black Ops 2 - Xbox 360 $40.00
Call of Duty Black Ops Declassified - PS Vita $30.00
Call of Duty: The War Collection - Xbox 360 $20.00
Dance Central 3 - Xbox 360 $30.00
Dead Island Game of the Year Edition - PS3 $20.00
Dead Island Game of the Year Edition - Xbox 360 $20.00
Devil May Cry HD Collection - PS3 $15.00
Devil May Cry HD Collection - Xbox 360 $15.00
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two - Wii $25.00
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two - PS3 $25.00
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two - Wii U $25.00
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two - Xbox 360 $25.00
Disney Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion - 3DS $20.00
Donkey Kong Country Returns - Wii $20.00
Dragon Age Origins: Ultimate Edition - PS3 $15.00
Dragon Age Origins: Ultimate Edition - Xbox 360 $15.00
Dragon Ball Z - Xbox 360 $25.00
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 - Wii $30.00
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 - PS3 $20.00
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 - Xbox 360 $20.00
DragonBall Z Budokai HD collection - PS3 $25.00
DragonBall Z Budokai HD collection - Xbox 360 $25.00
Dynasty Warriors 7 - PS3 $15.00
Dynasty Warriors 7 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 3 - PS3 $15.00
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 3 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Family Guy: Back to the Multiverse - PS3 $30.00
Family Guy: Back to the Multiverse - Xbox 360 $30.00
FIFA Soccer 12 - Wii $20.00
FIFA Soccer 13 - PS3 $35.00
FIFA Soccer 13 - Wii $30.00
FIFA Soccer 13 - Xbox 360 $35.00
Forza Horizon - Xbox 360 $35.00
God of War Saga - PS3 $20.00
Grand Theft Auto IV Complete Edition - PS3 $20.00
Grand Theft Auto IV Complete Edition - Xbox 360 $20.00
Half-Life 2: The Orange Box - PS3 $20.00
Halo 4 - Xbox 360 $30.00
Harvest Moon: A New Beginning - 3DS $25.00
Hitman Blood Money - Xbox 360 $20.00
Hitman: Absolution - PS3 $30.00
Hitman: Absolution - Xbox 360 $30.00
inFAMOUS Collection - PS3 $15.00
Just Cause 2 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Just Dance - Wii $15.00
Just Dance 2 - Wii $20.00
Just Dance 3 - Wii $20.00
Just Dance 3 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Just Dance 4 - Wii $25.00
Just Dance 4 - Wii U - Wii U $30.00
Just Dance 4 - Xbox 360 $25.00
Just Dance Disney Party - Wii $15.00
Just Dance Disney Party - Xbox 360 $15.00
Just Dance Greatest Hits - Wii $15.00
Just Dance Greatest Hits - Xbox 360 $15.00
Just Dance Kids 2 - Wii $15.00
Killzone Trilogy - PS3 $25.00
Kinect Sports Ultimate Collection - Xbox 360 $30.00
Kinect Star Wars - Xbox 360 $20.00
Kirby's Dream Collection: Special Edition - Wii $25.00
Kirby's Return to Dreamland - Wii $30.00
LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes - PS3 $20.00
LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes - Xbox 360 $20.00
LEGO Lord of the Rings - PS3 $30.00
LEGO Lord of the Rings - Wii $25.00
LEGO Lord of the Rings - Xbox 360 $30.00
LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga - Xbox 360 $15.00
Little Big Planet - PS Vita $15.00
Little Big Planet Karting - PS3 $30.00
Lollipop Chainsaw - Xbox 360 $20.00
Madden NFL 2012 - Wii $20.00
Madden NFL 2013 - PS Vita $20.00
Madden NFL 2013 - PS3 $35.00
Madden NFL 2013 - Wii $30.00
Madden NFL 2013 - Xbox 360 $35.00
Mario Kart 7 - 3DS $25.00
Mario Kart Wii - Wii $25.00
Mario Party 9 - Wii $30.00
Marvel Avengers Battle for Earth - Xbox 360 $25.00
Marvel Ultimate Alliance Gold Edition - Xbox 360 $25.00
Mass Effect Trilogy - Xbox 360 $30.00
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection - PS3 $20.00
Metroid Prime Trilogy - Wii $40.00
Michael Jackson: The Experience - Wii $20.00
Midway Arcade Origins - PS3 $15.00
Monopoly Streets - Xbox 360 $20.00
Monster Jam Path of Destruction - Xbox 360 $15.00
Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition - PS3 $15.00
Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition - Xbox 360 $15.00
Namco Museum Virtual Arcade - Xbox 360 $15.00
Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm Gen... - PS3 $20.00
Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm Gen... - Xbox 360 $20.00
NASCAR the Game: Inside Line - Xbox 360 $30.00
NBA 2K12 - Wii $15.00
NBA 2K13 - PS3 $35.00
NBA 2K13 - Wii $15.00
NBA 2K13 - Xbox 360 $35.00
NCAA Basketball 2010 - Xbox 360 $20.00
NCAA Football 2013 - PS3 $30.00
NCAA Football 2013 - Xbox 360 $30.00
Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012) - PS Vita $20.00
Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012) - PS3 $30.00
Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012) - Xbox 360 $30.00
New Super Mario Bros. - DS $20.00
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 3DS $25.00
New Super Mario Bros. U - Wii U $40.00
NHL 13 - Xbox 360 $30.00
Nickelodeon Dance - Wii $15.00
Nickelodeon Dance - Xbox 360 $15.00
Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors - DS $15.00
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge - Wii U $30.00
One Piece Unlimited Adventure - Wii $30.00
Paper Mario: Sticker Star - 3DS $25.00
Persona 4 Arena - PS3 $20.00
Persona 4 Golden - PS Vita $25.00
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale - PS Vita $15.00
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale - PS3 $30.00
Pokemon Black Version 2 - DS $20.00
Pokemon White Version 2 - DS $20.00
Portal 2 - PS3 $20.00
Portal 2 - Xbox 360 $20.00
Ragnarok Odyssey - PS Vita $20.00
Ratchet & Clank Collection - PS3 $15.00
Red Dead Redemption Game of the Year Ed. - PS3 $20.00
Red Dead Redemption Game of the Year Ed. - Xbox 360 $20.00
Resident Evil 6 - PS3 $25.00
Resident Evil 6 - Xbox 360 $25.00
Rock Band 3 - PS3 $15.00
Rock Band 3 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Saints Row The Third: The Full Package - PS3 $25.00
Saints Row The Third: The Full Package - Xbox 360 $25.00
Scribblenauts Unlimited - 3DS $20.00
Scribblenauts Unlimited - Wii U $30.00
Silent Hill HD Collection - Xbox 360 $20.00
Sniper Elite V2 - PS3 $15.00
Sniper Elite V2 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed - PS3 $25.00
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed - Wii U $25.00
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed - Xbox 360 $25.00
Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition - Wii $25.00
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Wii $20.00
Tales of Graces f - PS3 $30.00
Tank! Tank! Tank! - Wii U $30.00
The Hip Hop Dance Experience - Wii $20.00
The Hip Hop Dance Experience - Xbox 360 $20.00
The Last Story - Wii $25.00
The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon - PS3 $25.00
The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon - PS3 $25.00
The Sly Collection - PS3 $25.00
Tiger Woods 12: The Masters - Wii $15.00
Toy Story Mania - PS3 $20.00
Toy Story Mania - Xbox 360 $20.00
UFC Undisputed 3 - PS3 $20.00
UFC Undisputed 3 - Xbox 360 $20.00
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 - PS3 $15.00
Wheel of Fortune - Xbox 360 $15.00
Wipeout 2 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Wipeout 3 - Xbox 360 $25.00
Wipeout: In the Zone - Xbox 360 $20.00
Wreck it Ralph - 3DS $15.00
Wreck it Ralph - DS $15.00
Wreck it Ralph - Wii $15.00
WWE 12 - Wii $20.00
WWE 13 - Wii $30.00
WWE 13 - PS3 $30.00
WWE 13 - Xbox 360 $30.00
WWE All-Stars - Xbox 360 $15.00
Xenoblade Chronicles - Wii $25.00
Your Shape Fitness Evolved 2012 - Xbox 360 $15.00
Zero's Escape: Virtue's Last Reward - PS Vita $20.00
Zero's Escape: Virtue's Last Reward - 3DS $20.00
Zombi U - Wii U $40.00
Zumba Fitness Core - Xbox 360 $25.00
Zumba Fitness Rush - Xbox 360 $25.00
* Pro members get 10% bonus trade credit.

** Trades must be in full working condition to receive full value. Defective items may be eligible for trade at a lesser value. Cannot be combined with any other offer. Trade-ins subject to manager approval. Offer valid only toward items normally accepted in trade. See store associate for details. No dealers. Offer valid in the United States, Puerto Rico and Guam only. Void where prohibited. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice. Offer valid 12/7/12 through 12/16/12.

$20 for Portal 2? $25 for Sly Cooper collection? $15 for Bully? The FIRST Assassin's Creed on PS3 is getting $15?! What year is this?!

Proof since some people doubt what I say :)cry:)

www.poweruprewards.com/PUR/Index/TradeValues
 
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[quote name='uiengineer']what is w/ Blitz the League II's TIV? I have a copy, but this makes me skeptical to do a trade in.[/QUOTE]

It's $15 for Blitz.
 
[quote name='Watson580']I got $170.21 with AC3, Forza Horizon, Borderlands 2, and Portal 2 for the 360, then AC 1,Blitz the League 2, and Portal 2 for the PS3.

Not to bad since I bought Forza, AC3, and Borderlands 2 om Black Friday for like $65 and the other games I got from a old game store today because the had a buy 1 get one 50% off. PROFIT![/QUOTE]

Is borderlands 2 Xbox tiv also 30? Only ps3 is on the list and I have the guy scan the Xbox and he told me 18 bucks. But I doubt that's before he promotion.
 
[quote name='foreinter']Is borderlands 2 Xbox tiv also 30? Only ps3 is on the list and I have the guy scan the Xbox and he told me 18 bucks. But I doubt that's before he promotion.[/QUOTE]

Borderlands 2 TIV was $18 on the 360 sadly.
 
[quote name='Watson580']Borderlands 2 TIV was $18 on the 360 sadly.[/QUOTE]

They prob receive more trade ins of 360 copies due to there being more problems with it, like the dreaded Graveyard bug. So it makes sense that PS3 copies would trade in for more.
 
[quote name='TommyLove']First GameStop the values was much less. Going to second GameStop to see if its the same increase value.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='eliter1']You have to go through the whole process. If they just scan the game it will not show the full promo price.[/QUOTE]

Indeed - base values and advertized trade-in promos are not YMMV at GS - they work the same way at every store. So if you have to go to another store either you or the clerk are doing it wrong ;).
 
If i trade in kirby dream collection, do i need to include the book? Dont know where i put it and the paper box is gone...just game box left.
 
It's Gamestop. You can pull the game disc out of your ass and they'll accept it. At least that's how I imagine how some of their games get to be in the condition they're in.
 
[quote name='technicalstylez']got 500+ after promos. gonna go back tomorrow to dump more of the backlog. got some kindle cards, they only carried the $25's.[/QUOTE]

How many did you get? I will be getting around 8 if I do the swap and don't want to hit a limit and split my credit.
 
[quote name='MyPaper']A little bit off topic but anything bought between October thru December can be returned by the 15th of January right?[/QUOTE]

[quote name='highoffcoffee496']Yes but make sure you have proof because some GameStops will be difficult about it[/QUOTE]

I think it's a bit of fuck and confusing to some customers, but I've been told by a store mgr at a GS that the extended return policy only applies for NEW items. It is still 7 days on pre-owned items. I think in some cases it may be YMMV though.

The receipt uses a very carefully worded disclaimer:

"Any new product purchased between 10/1/12 and 12/24/12 may be returned with receipt by 1/15/13. Package must be unopened and in resale condition."

not anything, only -> *new + unopened*
 
[quote name='whitereflection']Affirmative.[/QUOTE]

nice... then isn't trading in the AC3 more worthwhile at Gamestop than Amazon haha

EDIT: called my Gamestop, she said "Gamestop in general does not carry Kindle Giftcard" ???
 
u won't be able to get 8. they have to reserve some for kindle purchases because of the buy kindle/get free $25 kindle card promo going on til the end of jan.
and even then qtys are low since they are just now starting to carry them


[quote name='Anexanhume']How many did you get? I will be getting around 8 if I do the swap and don't want to hit a limit and split my credit.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='eliter1']You have to go through the whole process. If they just scan the game it will not show the full promo price.[/QUOTE]
Apparently the guy who did the whole process was new at GameStop.
I went to the other GameStop and trade in forza horizon for $35 just fine and my Amazing Spiderman 3D for $15. They're on clearance at target for $7.58 by the way.
 
[quote name='TommyLove']Apparently the guy who did the whole process was new at GameStop.
I went to the other GameStop and trade in forza horizon for $35 just fine and my Amazing Spiderman 3D for $15. They're on clearance at target for $7.58 by the way.[/QUOTE]

man. that's kinda scary. haha.
still thinking whether it's worthwhile trading in my bare AC:Liberation (just the game, no box, no manual) for $20
 
[quote name='wilflare']man. that's kinda scary. haha.
still thinking whether it's worthwhile trading in my bare AC:Liberation (just the game, no box, no manual) for $20[/QUOTE]
I'll do it if I were you! Take advantage of this promotion while you still can. Do you guys think it's safe for me to go back again and trade in more Amazing Spiderman 3D? They only limit 1 game for me per store.
 
ya a manager did my trade in and he thought i was trying to scam him with the 3/+$10 and then these super tivs. i had one pile in multiples of 3s and 1 pile for the super tivs and he looked really annoyed and weary trying to tell me just to ring them all up together. then when he totaled the 3/+10 pile he was like, whoa thats strange, all the games got a 3.33 bonus (9.99 for every 3)..so then he figured out i was right, chillaxed, then proceeded to ring up my super tiv pile and they all came up at the end easy peasy. finally, i talked to him about concept art and he shook my hand and told me to come back any time, so i told him i was coming back tomorrow with more games lol. maybe pickup a pulse headset cuz its on sale.
 
[quote name='technicalstylez']ya a manager did my trade in and he thought i was trying to scam him with the 3/+$10 and then these super tivs. i had one pile in multiples of 3s and 1 pile for the super tivs and he looked really annoyed and weary trying to tell me just to ring them all up together. then when he totaled the 3/+10 pile he was like, whoa thats strange, all the games got a 3.33 bonus (9.99 for every 3)..so then he figured out i was right, chillaxed, then proceeded to ring up my super tiv pile and they all came up at the end easy peasy. finally, i talked to him about concept art and he shook my hand and told me to come back any time, so i told him i was coming back tomorrow with more games lol. maybe pickup a pulse headset cuz its on sale.[/QUOTE]
What three games did you trade in if you don't mind me asking?
 
[quote name='TommyLove']I'll do it if I were you! Take advantage of this promotion while you still can. Do you guys think it's safe for me to go back again and trade in more Amazing Spiderman 3D? They only limit 1 game for me per store.[/QUOTE]

wait. there's a limit to the trade-in? so you can't trade-in multiple copies of the same game?
 
[quote name='o0achilles0o']Good luck finding RB3. That game is a damn unicorn at this point.[/QUOTE]

Sold 5 copies that I got awhile back from Target for $40 profit each.
 
[quote name='Uso']Sold 5 copies that I got awhile back from Target for $40 profit each.[/QUOTE]

What? On what system? I have 2 game only sealed copies for 360 sitting on my desk from BB last year.
 
[quote name='Uso']Sold 5 copies that I got awhile back from Target for $40 profit each.[/QUOTE]

thought they limited to one copy of a game. or you went to different stores?
 
I traded in Alice, RDR and Sly last night and just realized that Madden 2013 and LBP Vita are on the list. I got both recently with an Amazon Vita bundle deal and don't need them so I guess I will be heading back tomorrow.
 
I assume only the PS3 version is the rare one, since you can more or less just pickup the game + keyboard at Madcatz online shop whenever you want for like 30+shipping for the Wii/360
 
I have a question. Does any guys think it is good to flip the new game that you haven't played to GameStop to earn some money? Since I do not played dead island, sly collection, I am on the fence...
 
how much are GS normally pay for a dualshock 3? I read somewhere on here $22. Is that for the normal PUR or the pro? And since their controllers are on sale. Would the trade in price increase if I wait until the sale is over?
 
[quote name='Watson580']It's $15 for Blitz.[/QUOTE]
no. i know what it is. i was wondering what is up with it. why is it so high for that game.
 
[quote name='ckc4043']I have a question. Does any guys think it is good to flip the new game that you haven't played to GameStop to earn some money? Since I do not played dead island, sly collection, I am on the fence...[/QUOTE]

I do if it's at least a 2x flip and it's in my current backlog. I figure it will get as cheap or cheaper as time goes on if I want to play it later. I figure why hold onto it when I can make a significant (credit) profit now? I lost count of how many times I've turned in B:AC and Zelda:SS from past sales.
 
[quote name='red_devil32']how much are GS normally pay for a dualshock 3? I read somewhere on here $22. Is that for the normal PUR or the pro? And since their controllers are on sale. Would the trade in price increase if I wait until the sale is over?[/QUOTE]

Traded an extra one today and it was $22 base.
 
Traded in my NCAA Football 13 copy that I got at launch after unloading AC3 a couple days ago as well. My GS still had some of those 7 inch Sophix tablets, any one able to recommend one?
 
[quote name='finstersucks']My ps3 controller problems came before the newer models with the blue packaging. Haven't had a problem, but I did buy them all at best buy, previously through amazon. I know Sony has several factories producing different models of the controller, so it could of just been a bad batch or the early ones were poorly tested/engineered. However, I do have two camos no issues whatsoever, except they have bigger gaps in the middle of the snaps then others.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, so your evidence points to older DS3 having issues and the camouflage not having issues. I have a 2008 DS3 that is still working fine just to compare to you. Going to keep my camouflage controller then.
 
I haven't had a problem with any Dualshock controllers. I used my first two for nearly 5 years w/o any major problems. I like the matte finish on the newer black controllers compared to the slick shiny finish on the old ones. Also it may just be me, but the tops of the sticks on the newer controllers seem a little flatter, it's easier to keep your thumbs on them.
 
[quote name='bob330i']I do if it's at least a 2x flip and it's in my current backlog. I figure it will get as cheap or cheaper as time goes on if I want to play it later. I figure why hold onto it when I can make a significant (credit) profit now? I lost count of how many times I've turned in B:AC and Zelda:SS from past sales.[/QUOTE]

It is impossible for me to finish two games in this week. Maybe I can finish dead island, but the sly collection.....I am not willing, but also willing..damn..on the horns of dilemma.
 
[quote name='ckc4043']It is impossible for me to finish two games in this week. Maybe I can finish dead island, but the sly collection.....I am not willing, but also willing..damn..on the horns of dilemma.[/QUOTE]

Do Dead Island. I doubt it'll drop to $8 again for you to pick it up. How much was the Sly Collection?
 
[quote name='uiengineer']what is w/ Blitz the League II's TIV? I have a copy, but this makes me skeptical to do a trade in.[/QUOTE]
blitz 2 is a collector's item. if you have blitz 2 or metroid trilogy in good to near mint condition you could probably sell it for MUCH higher.
 
[quote name='dominator']Traded in my NCAA Football 13 copy that I got at launch after unloading AC3 a couple days ago as well. My GS still had some of those 7 inch Sophix tablets, any one able to recommend one?[/QUOTE]

Nexus 7 ainec
 
[quote name='PublikDefender']blitz 2 is a collector's item. if you have blitz 2 or metroid trilogy in good to near mint condition you could probably sell it for MUCH higher.[/QUOTE]

You gotta be shitting me....

I picked it up at best buy, in the preowned section (still sealed) for 17$, and traded it in just to move credit. :O You mean I could have solt that puppy for sollecter prices? (like 60-70 bucks?).... Daaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuummmmmnnnnnnnnnn
 
[quote name='reicaden']You gotta be shitting me....

I picked it up at best buy, in the preowned section (still sealed) for 17$, and traded it in just to move credit. :O You mean I could have solt that puppy for sollecter prices? (like 60-70 bucks?).... Daaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuummmmmnnnnnnnnnn[/QUOTE]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=blitz+the+league+ii+xbox+360&_frs=1

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...&_odkw=blitz+the+league+ii+xbox+360&_osacat=0

Well, not exactly. Gamestop trade in is better than having to eat the seller fee and shipping.
 
[quote name='reicaden']You gotta be shitting me....

I picked it up at best buy, in the preowned section (still sealed) for 17$, and traded it in just to move credit. :O You mean I could have solt that puppy for sollecter prices? (like 60-70 bucks?).... Daaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuummmmmnnnnnnnnnn[/QUOTE]

No. I don't know where the guy's getting his numbers, but these things routinely sell for $20-$30 on eBay.
 
I'm VERY tempted to trade in DA:O ultimate since GS normally sells it for 14.99 and Batman AC GOTY since I haven't touched my copy since BF.

I do need some Vita stuff after all.
 
[quote name='wilflare']has anyone had luck trading multiple copies of the same game?
do we just come back again later?[/QUOTE]
I'll let you know tomorrow. I'm assuming it depends on some store. If there's a manager there, then they will only limit one of the same copy.
 
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