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1 gay marriage, then judge stays ruling

By HENRY C. JACKSON, Associated Press Writer 46 minutes ago

DES MOINES, Iowa - Two men sealed the state's first legal same-sex marriage with a kiss Friday morning, less than 24 hours after a judge threw out Iowa's ban on gay marriage and about two hours before he put that ruling on hold.

It was a narrow window of opportunity.

Polk County Judge Robert Hanson temporarily cleared the way for same-sex couples across the state to apply for marriage licenses in the county when he ruled Thursday that Iowa's 1998 Defense of Marriage Act, which allowed marriage only between a man and a woman, violated the constitutional rights of due process and equal protection of six gay couples who had sued.

County attorney John Sarcone promised a quick appeal and asked Hanson to stay his ruling until that appeal was resolved.

A dozen gay and lesbian couples were waiting at the county recorder's office when it opened at 7:30 Friday morning.

"This might be our only chance," said Katy Farlow, who waited in a lawn chair with fellow Iowa State University student Larissa Boeck.

Just after 11 a.m., about 20 gay couples had finished applying for marriage licenses when Recorder Julie Haggerty announced she could no longer accept applications. Hanson told The Associated Press about an hour and half later that he had formally stayed his ruling.

The stay meant the recorder's office was not permitted to accept any more marriage applications from gay couples until the Iowa Supreme Court rules on the county's appeal.

Sean Fritz and Tim McQuillan were among the lucky few to get their application through.

The marriage license approval process normally takes three business days, but Fritz and McQuillan took advantage of a loophole that allows couples to skip the waiting period if they pay a $5 fee and get a judge to sign a waiver.

Friday morning, the Rev. Mark Stringer declared the two legally married in a wedding on Unitarian minister's front lawn in Des Moines.

"This is it. We're married. I love you," Fritz told McQuillan after the ceremony.

Fritz explained their hurry: "We're both in our undergrad programs and we thought maybe we'd put it off until applying at graduate school, but when this opportunity came up, we thought maybe we wouldn't get the opportunity again."

Republican House Minority Leader Christopher Rants, said the ruling illustrates the need for a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

"I can't believe this is happening in Iowa," Rants said. "I guarantee you there will be a vote on this issue come January," when the Legislature convenes.

Gov. Chet Culver left open the possibility of state action.

"While some Iowans may disagree on this issue, I personally believe marriage is between a man and a woman," the governor said.

Gay marriage is legal in Massachusetts, and nine other states have approved spousal rights in some form for same-sex couples. Nearly all states have defined marriage as being solely between a man and a woman, and 27 states have such wording in their constitutions, according the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Dennis Johnson, a lawyer for the six gay couples who sued after being denied marriage licenses in 2005, said Iowa has a long history of aggressively protecting civil rights in cases of race and gender. The Defense of Marriage Act contradicts previous rulings regarding civil rights and is simply "mean spirited," he said.

Roger J. Kuhle, an assistant Polk County attorney, argued that the issue was not for a judge to decide.

Hanson ruled that the state law banning same-sex marriage must be nullified, severed and stricken from the books, and the marriage laws "must be read and applied in a gender neutral manner so as to permit same-sex couples to enter into a civil marriage ..."

"This is kind of the American Dream," said plaintiff Jen BarbouRoske, of Iowa City. "I'm still feeling kind of shaky. It's pure elation. I just cannot believe it."

Kate Varnum of Cedar Rapids, another plaintiff, said she was elated but expected more legal battles: "I don't expect this to be the last one."

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I am sure this topic will nauseatingly come up again and again as the election draws closer
 
Now Dammit!!! It says right there in the Bible! Marriage is between a Man and a woman! Or a man and a man, or a woman and a woman, or a man and a monkey, or a monkey and a woman, but most importantly, in the book of Fishicus, it says marriage is between a Seaman and an Eel!
 
I can't wait to see which Republican enacts which legislation/protests/actions that ensure these freedoms enjoyed by homosexual couples are nullified, and become freedoms that homosexuals will never enjoy again.

Keep your hands out of the cookie jar, queers. Them's straight folks' cookies!
 
Considering that some straight couples abuse marriage and treat each other like shit, who are we to say homosexuals aren't entitled to the same happiness/unhappiness marriage brings?

As far as I'm concerned, they're entitled to the opportunity in the eyes of the Lord, so let the Lord judge them.

~HotShotX
 
I've never understood why so many people feel threatened by homosexuals. Like letting gay people marry will turn more people into gay people, and then they will take over the world!!! zOMG! UR turnin my SON ghey! Oh wait, you say we're born this way??? NOOOOOOOOOOOO....
 
[quote name='lilboo']Iowa?! Now that's some shit! Congrats to them!

49 states to go.. sigh[/QUOTE]

46, dude. Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Jersey (where you live) all recognize the "civil unions" (mostly a semantic difference, as all powers of attorney and whatnot hot for CU and marriages). I don't expect this precedent to last very long in Iowa, just like all those gay marriages in SF a couple of years back were nullified at the state level.
 
Well I know that here in Jersey we are allowed Civil Unions.. but didn't that article state MARRIAGE? We don't have gay marriage here! I understand Civil Union/Marriage is close together..but I'm pretty sure there's a difference. I didn't think Connecticut and Massachusetts had gay marriage either.. just the union thing.

And YES I remember that insanity in San Fransicso a few years back! That was insane!!
 
It's a secret plot by Republicans to get gay marriage back on the ballots for '08.

Or perhaps Sen. Larry Craig has finally found The One and wants to settle down.
 
I have been to Massachusetts a few times since marriage for gays happened, nothnig seemed to change, no hurricanes have hit, no earthquakes or huge waves. I think it's safe to say that gay marriage has no effect on people.

Plus the Catholic chruch a few hundred years ago had gay unions...
 
[quote name='lilboo']Well I know that here in Jersey we are allowed Civil Unions.. but didn't that article state MARRIAGE? We don't have gay marriage here! I understand Civil Union/Marriage is close together..but I'm pretty sure there's a difference. [/QUOTE]

Typically, there isn't any difference outside of the title. That keeps the Christian morons happy because, ya know, marriage is TEH SACRED INSTUHTOOSHEN!!!!
 
If I remember correctly, in MA its full marriage rights. NY has it where they will recognize the marriage, but they can't perform them legally yet. Me and my partner want to get married and it be legal, but until that time, we're content having a ceremony next year. Hes still floored, even now a few months later after I told him, that I want to take his last name...
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']If I remember correctly, in MA its full marriage rights. NY has it where they will recognize the marriage, but they can't perform them legally yet. Me and my partner want to get married and it be legal, but until that time, we're content having a ceremony next year. Hes still floored, even now a few months later after I told him, that I want to take his last name...[/QUOTE]

That's cute :p

I don't think I would take my BF's last name. I actually think a hyphenated last name..as annoying as it would look..would be more appropriate. Well for me. I can't speak for everyone.. :lol:

I'm glad that NJ has them!! I've been unemployed since April and I'm asthmatic..I NEED MEDS!!!! My BF's company offers benefits for same sex couples.. woo hoo! But we don't know if we have to LIVE together.. or be civil unionized :(

If we DO, then it looks like I'm off to David's Bridal!
 
[quote name='lilboo']That's cute :p

I don't think I would take my BF's last name. I actually think a hyphenated last name..as annoying as it would look..would be more appropriate. Well for me. I can't speak for everyone.. :lol:

I'm glad that NJ has them!! I've been unemployed since April and I'm asthmatic..I NEED MEDS!!!! My BF's company offers benefits for same sex couples.. woo hoo! But we don't know if we have to LIVE together.. or be civil unionized :(

If we DO, then it looks like I'm off to David's Bridal![/quote]

Never knew that you were gay also. As for the benefits, it depends on the company probably. I'm sure most say that you have to live together. I know when my (now) ex put me on his insurance at 7-11 we both had to sign a paper saying that we were committed to the relationship. But, if you plan on living together soon enough, just go ahead and put down on the paper. Its not as though you're committing insurance fraud and you're not together. As for taking his last name, I've told him that I always told myself that when I found the one, that I wanted to take his last name as a symbol of my commitment to him. Of course, we could hyphenate both and take each others that way. Have to throw that idea out to him
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']Never knew that you were gay also. As for the benefits, it depends on the company probably. I'm sure most say that you have to live together. I know when my (now) ex put me on his insurance at 7-11 we both had to sign a paper saying that we were committed to the relationship. But, if you plan on living together soon enough, just go ahead and put down on the paper. Its not as though you're committing insurance fraud and you're not together. As for taking his last name, I've told him that I always told myself that when I found the one, that I wanted to take his last name as a symbol of my commitment to him. Of course, we could hyphenate both and take each others that way. Have to throw that idea out to him[/QUOTE]

Ok cool, so I keep telling him to find out.. but he's such a tart when it comes to.. ya know.. doing stuff.. grr..

Anyways! lol Personally, I feel that gay couples SHOULD do the hyphenated name. In a TRADITIONAL marriage the woman takes the mans name.. well..not all gay relationships have "male" "female" roles..so for those couples (like mine) who would take the last name? And let's be honest. 2 men, or 2 women getting married ISN'T traditional..and that's just fine..so that's why I think the hyphanated name is a good thing. :D To me, that sounds more committed then just dropping your last name and taking someone elses (not speaking to YOU directly, more in general)
 
[quote name='lilboo']Ok cool, so I keep telling him to find out.. but he's such a tart when it comes to.. ya know.. doing stuff.. grr..

Anyways! lol Personally, I feel that gay couples SHOULD do the hyphenated name. In a TRADITIONAL marriage the woman takes the mans name.. well..not all gay relationships have "male" "female" roles..so for those couples (like mine) who would take the last name? And let's be honest. 2 men, or 2 women getting married ISN'T traditional..and that's just fine..so that's why I think the hyphanated name is a good thing. :D To me, that sounds more committed then just dropping your last name and taking someone elses (not speaking to YOU directly, more in general)[/quote]

Thats very true about the name taking. To be honest, in terms of "roles", I would fit the more male type. I'm not taking anything away from him of course, just feels that way. But trust me, hes not feminine...I honestly wouldn't be with him if he were. But we both feel that we trade off everything equally, so it all works out. And even though we've yet to have a ceremony, we do call each other husband and hubby.
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']And even though we've yet to have a ceremony, we do call each other husband and hubby.[/QUOTE]
God, if my boyfriend started doing that, this hubby-wubby would get sicky-wicky.
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']God, if my boyfriend started doing that, this hubby-wubby would get sicky-wicky.[/quote]

Well, we could call each other husbear...that sound better to ya Kirin lol? After all he is a big ol teddy bear...heck my pet name for him is Yogi and he calls me BooBoo. Just one thing we'll never call each other is our family nicknames...
 
Ha, mine calls me "WIFE" cause I'm unemployed and I'm demanding. bwahahahaa
Anyway, where did the thread go?! LOL
 
CA also has rights, as far as I understand (definitely a reason that I'm moving there) that are pretty much the same as marriage, except they're domestic partnerships.

Gotta love Colorado, one of the worst states in the country on this particular issue.
 
I was curious about what gay couples thought of "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry." The main plot line was exactly what you were talking about with regards to health and insurance benefits for same sex couples. They were faking of course so IMO it was pretty funny.

BTW, I'm pretty sure New Jersey isn't a state, its an insult.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I was curious about what gay couples thought of "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry." The main plot line was exactly what you were talking about with regards to health and insurance benefits for same sex couples. They were faking of course so IMO it was pretty funny.

BTW, I'm pretty sure New Jersey isn't a state, its an insult.[/QUOTE]


lmao, well I didn't see it.. but it's a comedy; not meant to be an insult. From the previews alone, it looks more like a "LOL!" then a "..omg thats offensive!!"..but then again.. I rarely find myself offended at things. I don't know why, but yeah..that's just me.

AND YES, NJ IS PRETTY LAME. But if I can get sorta married then ::high five:: for me!
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I was curious about what gay couples thought of "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry." The main plot line was exactly what you were talking about with regards to health and insurance benefits for same sex couples. They were faking of course so IMO it was pretty funny.

BTW, I'm pretty sure New Jersey isn't a state, its an insult.[/quote]
I didn't see it either, but it isn't usually that big of a deal to me. Granted, the jokes that imply that all gay guys aren't manly make me roll my eyes, I'm not about to pull a pink-fairy jihad of buttsecks on a movie. :lol: Was the movie trying to show how shitty it is that we don't have the rights that straight couples do in most states, or did it not go that deep? 'Cause if it did, I'd see it just for that. Reason I ask is, to be honest, one of the main reasons I'd like to move and get a partnership is due to the fact that if I wasn't allowed to see my bf in the hospital (or the other way round) I'd start hurting some mufuxers.

In either case, I'd like to ask 'boo and 'Snatcher- did either of you watch the HRC session on Logo/The Internets where they gathered all of the Democrat candidates for a meeting on the candidate's stance on gay marriage? I loved how Obama just outright told that whole audience that he wants to keep us segregated so that he doesn't impress upon religious institutions. Lovely way to win support there, chief, especially on a show where it's 100% bi/homosexual people. Hillary wasn't much better, the only ones who seemed to want to help us out are Kucinich and Gravel. Gravel is such a winnar, it's too bad he's got less than a snowball's chance. :(
 
[quote name='Hex']Gotta love Colorado, one of the worst states in the country on this particular issue.[/QUOTE]

Everytime you buy a sixer of Coors, a homosexual has its wings clipped. Seriously, that family is the keystone of wealthy power-wielding conservative fuckjobs in yer cold lil' state.

OT, dunno if you're in or near Denver, but I may go to Denver in late October for a day or so. PM me if them's your neck of the woods.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Everytime you buy a sixer of Coors, a homosexual has its wings clipped. Seriously, that family is the keystone of wealthy power-wielding conservative fuckjobs in yer cold lil' state.

OT, dunno if you're in or near Denver, but I may go to Denver in late October for a day or so. PM me if them's your neck of the woods.[/quote]

And they don't even make good alcohol. :( Doesn't help that we've (apparently) got a large concentration of the KKK somewhere in the mountains and those dumbasses at Focus On the Family down in Colorado Springs. Fun part is, the big Gay Rights rally and meetings are held in ColoSpgs- sticking it to the fundies always makes me a happy horse.

And 'fraid not, I live far northwest of Denver. Even if I did live there, I'd be a shitty host- I can't drive down there for shit, and I don't know all that much fun stuff to do. All I can say is, if you're up for Italian, hit the Old Spaghetti Factory. If you dig modern chic, go for the Cheesecake Factory. Their shephard's pie is to die for. 16th street mall is lovely also, especially this time of year.
 
ACK! Coors... If I want to drink water, I'll drink water. They might as well label it some fancy schmansy bottled water...

I wish TN allowed civil unions, as me and my partner plan on having our wedding/ceremony June 15th next year.
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']Well, we could call each other husbear...that sound better to ya Kirin lol? After all he is a big ol teddy bear...heck my pet name for him is Yogi and he calls me BooBoo. Just one thing we'll never call each other is our family nicknames...[/QUOTE]
Ick, I just threw up a little.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']46, dude. Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Jersey (where you live) all recognize the "civil unions" (mostly a semantic difference, as all powers of attorney and whatnot hot for CU and marriages). I don't expect this precedent to last very long in Iowa, just like all those gay marriages in SF a couple of years back were nullified at the state level.[/quote]

Rhode Island has gay marriage too, but you have to get married in MA.
 
As long as gay marriage doesn't interfere with my friends hooking me up with the hot theater chicks they know (stereotypical I know) I'm all for it but dammit I don't want my friends becoming homebodies even if it does happen to everyone at some point.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']Rhode Island has gay marriage too, but you have to get married in MA.[/QUOTE]

Ohio has 70MPH speed limits on the interstate, but only if you drive on the interstate in Indiana.

:whistle2:s
 
[quote name='sweeetja713']As long as gay marriage doesn't interfere with my friends hooking me up with the hot theater chicks they know (stereotypical I know) I'm all for it but dammit I don't want my friends becoming homebodies even if it does happen to everyone at some point.[/quote]
Theres nothing really wrong with becoming a home body. I certainly am one as is my partner. Then again, we're both quite anti-social...

Quite honestly, I would never be able to stand being with someone who just had to go out all the time. I'm not one for always being on the go, I'd much rather stay in and just be together.
 
True there's nothing wrong with it but when you're used to going out a lot with them, you don't want it to change. Oh well everyone's gotta grow up at some point right?
 
[quote name='sweeetja713']True there's nothing wrong with it but when you're used to going out a lot with them, you don't want it to change. Oh well everyone's gotta grow up at some point right?[/quote]

In a way thats a little selfish, no offense intended though. But I do see where youir coming from. Its the same thing if a straight guy gets married. He always at home with the wife while his buddies are out having a good time with out him. Of course in both situations, gay and straight, they may be lucky enough that the other spouse/partner doesn't mind them going out; or even better that spouse/partner may end up becoming part of the gang so to speak and its like nothing ever really changed. I'm glad that my partner is like me, he doesn't care for the bars or clubs, then again hes 47, but hes always been that way. Probably the only time we would go is if we were bored and just screwing with the idiots minds for amusement (yes, we're both total assholes in that respect heh).
 
I wou;d think its safe to say that most people who post on videogame message baords arent sterotypically speaking "clubers". I am a homebody and engaged but ive never been a big drinker. I like videogames and movies and chillin at home more than drinking at bars, maybe because I'm 26 & engaged.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I wou;d think its safe to say that most people who post on videogame message baords arent sterotypically speaking "clubers". I am a homebody and engaged but ive never been a big drinker. I like videogames and movies and chillin at home more than drinking at bars, maybe because I'm 26 & engaged.[/QUOTE]
No point to go and spend money when you live with your date.
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']spouse/partner may end up becoming part of the gang so to speak and its like nothing ever really changed.[/quote]

Bingo. Gotta love that situation- my bf is a bigger gun nut than I am. :D
 
[quote name='Hex']Bingo. Gotta love that situation- my bf is a bigger gun nut than I am. :D[/QUOTE]

*Secretly aroused by the hidden sexual innuendo in that sentence*

Anyway, yay gays! :applause:
 
[quote name='electronicmaji']Dont You Get It!! They Are Going To Hell People!


Hell!![/QUOTE]

The further away from Fred Phelps, the better.
 
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