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Well I don't go to a game looking for a book or a movie, I got to it for the experience. I think Nocturne has a good "story" in that the experience is unique and interesting to me.

I think Mario Bros. 3 has a good "story" even though it does not have good writing or cinematography.
 
[quote name='Rodimus']Congrats. I agree with the fact that I haven't had to grind one bit, I just keep truckin' along in the story without any slowdown. I'm a little bit after the point were Luke gets a hair cut were I finally just got all the members of my team back. About how far would you say I have to go?

Out of all the games you listed it's a tough choice, I enjoyed them all. Maybe FFIX more than the rest, but really I don't think you could go wrong with any of them.[/QUOTE]

heh, you're at about the 1/3 point my friend, haha. I'm pretty sure I was at about 16-18 hours at that point. And the best part is, the ability to just keep truckin with the story and still be at the right level continues for the rest of the game! Such amazing design.

And yeah, I think I will go back and finish IX, then X, then DQ, prolly with non-RPGs sprinkled in between or concurrently. This is my third, second, and first playthrough of them, respectively.

Once I get those cleared, I'm gonna start a new RPG, prolly a SMT game, as I have DDS1 and 2, Nocturne, and Persona 1-4... and have played none of them other than DDS1 for a short while.

[quote name='DarkSageRK']For Atelier Iris, the first one is absolute shit. Don't bother with it.[/QUOTE]
QFT! Ugh, I just couldn't stand playing it. soooo boring. Anyone actually recommend 2 or 3? I picked them all up at the same time (a b2g1 sale) and regretted it after playing 1.
 
I thought Atelier Iris 1 was solid, 2 was good, and 3 was terrible. But if you couldn't stand 1, I wouldn't recommend any of them. They're all cut from the same cloth.

It was Atelier Iris 3, then Ar Tonelico, which really turned me off to Gust. All their games are so similar, and it seems like they're not even trying anymore. I haven't played Mana Khemia yet, but it looks like another rehash of the same game. Maybe I'll try it out someday.
 
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I put a few hours into Atelier Iris, so far so good. It's holding my interest. I think the true test is around that 15-20 hour mark for RPG's. If something doesn't happen, either with story, plot, music, gameplay, battle system, then I think most of us lose interest. My only goal is to finish one of these games by the 22nd.....Persona PSP baby!!!

I have a pretty sizable backlog to play through, so the PS2 and some RPG's with me. I left the 360 at the house...XBox Live + College= Less than Stellar Grades. I just realized that I only grabbed FFXII and Gust games to play...ugh.

I still have all the SMT games to play, but I don't want to dig into P4 yet for some reason. I need a break after finishing FES.
 
[quote name='pete5883']Is this a joke? They replaced load screens with long hallways that you have to walk down in place of just waiting for the load to happen. I didn't find this to be an improvement, as I'd rather hit nothing instead of up for 10 seconds.[/QUOTE]

No, it's not a joke. I don't think that the dungeons are too long, and in fact, aren't much longer than most RPGs with massive load times.
 
I'm about 13 hours into FF6a, and I have a 3 character party of 24-26, and I'm right before some cave before the floating island part (I'm using the table of contents of a guide to point me in the right direction). I'm wondering how much longer I have to go from here if I don't go for any sidequests? I'd imagine another 13-15 hours, but I'm just not sure.

Also, just watched the Gametrailers interview about FFXIII. No dual audio makes me a bit ticked.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']I'm about 13 hours into FF6a, and I have a 3 character party of 24-26, and I'm right before some cave before the floating island part (I'm using the table of contents of a guide to point me in the right direction). I'm wondering how much longer I have to go from here if I don't go for any sidequests? I'd imagine another 13-15 hours, but I'm just not sure.[/QUOTE]

Not to spoil anything, but with the way FF6 progresses you're pretty much going to have to do sidequests as they comprise most of the second half of the game. However, if you barrel right to the end from where you are you'll be done in 3-4 hours or so.
 
Doing everything will put it in the 15-20 hour range if not longer. And mid-40's should be fine for the endgame. You'll want to level as many characters as possible, however.
 
Your only required to get 3 characters to be able to go to the final dungeon and fight the last boss. Doing so is pretty challenging and suicidal though.

As mentioned , since the second half of the game is basically all sidequests revolving each of the characters , if you can figure out who is where , you could just skip around to the quests involving characters you like and use to save some time. Alternatively you could only do the quests that net you the best/strongest rewards as well.

It's not really necessary to do all the sidequests unless you want to see the "full" ending (or go for full completion of course) , since the game tends to get really easy near the end , and the more quests you do , the easier it'll become (this should go without saying).

Can't really give you a good estimate of time though , but I will say regarding levels , that between 40-60 should be enough to beat the game , with some challenge near the end. 60+ will make it fairly easy though.
 
So I heard Kefka's character gets changed a little bit in FFVI Advance as opposed to the SNES translation. Any truth to that?
 
Maybe a little bit of translation differences from SNES to GBA version, but nothing really significant. It's not as if Kefka goes from being a bad guy to ambiguously gay. Maybe something like "I hate you!" from the SNES to "I'll kill you!" to the GBA when's he's mad or something.

Otherwise, still a bad guy.
 
My brother just started playing Dissidia and I overheard him play a portion with Kefka. Thought his voice reminded me a lot of Alfred Ashford from RE : CV. Personally I think it makes him sound too goofy , not quite evil or crazy enough. I would've loved it if they kept his trademark laugh from the original in there though.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Kefka was always like that... remember the famous laugh?[/QUOTE]

You mean that 16 bit sound that was recycled in Chrono Trigger? Classic.
 
Hey I just picked up a PS2 and went ahead and picked up some RPG's, whats the best one out the bunch so I know which to start first and Wild Arms 5 any good?

-Ar Tonelico 2
-Mana Khemia
-Persona 4
 
I found Wild Arms 5 to be pretty average. My favorite part was the battle system, which has a neat tactical RPG element to it.

Haven't played any of the others, though Persona 4's in my to-play stack as well. Everyone I know who's played it raves about it.
 
Question for Tales series fans , given that it was the first game in the series (although a remake/rerelease) would it be advised or recommended to play Tales of Phantasia for the GBA before any of the other games , or does it not really matter?
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Just play Abyss and/or Vesperia... they are the awesome.[/QUOTE]

I don't doubt that , but I don't have Abyss (yet) and my 360 is dead so Vesperia is out too (Although I do have Symphonia that I've been meaning to start). Besides I was looking for a GBA game to play (that I haven't already) and that seemed to fit the bill.

Similar question , Fire Emblem : Shadow Dragon , my brother said he didn't like the game because he felt it was a step down from previous FE games. Seeing as I haven't played/finished any of them yet either , should I play Shadow Dragon first?
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']Question for Tales series fans , given that it was the first game in the series (although a remake/rerelease) would it be advised or recommended to play Tales of Phantasia for the GBA before any of the other games , or does it not really matter?[/QUOTE]


You should still play Phantasia when you get a chance its a pretty fun game. Rod when your in jpn could you pick me up a cute little asian chick, I'll pay shipping of course.;)

I will check out your review tomorrow at work.
 
My RPG back log has gotten out of control. I have a few days free what RPG should I take a stab at?

Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Mass Effect
Enchanted Arms
Star Wars KotOR
Fable 1
Eternal Sonata
Infinite Undiscovery
 
[quote name='Magus8472']LO and KOTOR are the best of those. Depends on whether you want a JRPG or a western one.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the feedback, I was leaning towards LO especially since I absolutely loved Blue Dragon.
 
Not a bad review at all Rod. I think the story section could be flushed out a little more, but after that everything flowed really well.

Will you be doing more reviews in the future?
 
[quote name='spoo']My RPG back log has gotten out of control. I have a few days free what RPG should I take a stab at?

Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Mass Effect
Enchanted Arms
Star Wars KotOR
Fable 1
Eternal Sonata
Infinite Undiscovery[/QUOTE]
KOTOR, now!
 
[quote name='LostRoad']Not a bad review at all Rod. I think the story section could be flushed out a little more, but after that everything flowed really well.

Will you be doing more reviews in the future?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. I didn't want to reveal too much about the story for spoilers sake. But I'll go back and re-read it while taking your critiques into consideration.

As for more reviews I have a couple in mind. I was thinking Rocket Knight Adventures for the Genesis would be my next one. I just beat it for the first time a few weeks ago and absolutely loved it.

BTW the site belongs to Brian Moy, a fellow CAG. He's a really cool guy so I'm trying to help him out by contributing to his site. I might not be much of a writer but I had fun doing it :)
 
Also, fireguardiancoty shared with us some very interesting information regarding Tales of Vesperia PS3. fireguardiancoty went to the recent Anime Fest in Dallas, Texas (Sept. 4-7), where Troy Baker, Yuri's English voice actor, was confirmed present as a guest. He was able to have a short word with Troy Baker regarding a localization for Tales of Vesperia PS3. Though he did not give an outright answer, he did mention that he and the other voice actors "were sent back to do recordings of new moves/artes".
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Tales of Vesperia PS3? Tales of VS? Hopefully both
 
[quote name='spoo']My RPG back log has gotten out of control. I have a few days free what RPG should I take a stab at?

Lost Odyssey
Star Ocean 4
Mass Effect
Enchanted Arms
Star Wars KotOR
Fable 1
Eternal Sonata
Infinite Undiscovery[/QUOTE]
If that's your entire "out of control" RPG backlog, then you don't want to see mine.

And sorry, I haven't played any of those (yet, at least in the case of Eternal Sonata) :/
 
I absolutely loved Lost Odyssey. It is indeed very traditional, but is an exceptional game. While I could go on about how amazing the graphics are, how fine tuned the gameplay is, etc, it was the flashback sequences that really sold it for me. The backstory "memories" you unlock throughout are some of the most beautiful and touching bits of storytelling I have ever seen. The combination of the minimalistic, but thematic backgrounds, haunting music, and superb writing make these sections alone worth the playthrough imho.

Actually, I feel this style of storytelling could be great for digital novels as well. Almost like how some graphic novels were recently "redone". The minor animations/thematic backgrounds and the music and sound effects while you read really helped set the mood for them.

I remember reading a while ago that the author of those flashbacks wrote some more and published them as a book. I wonder if that was translated.
 
Lost Odessy was great. There were a couple things I disliked but overall it was a great JRPG. I like that it was fairly traditional at its core yet wasn't riddled with cliche's like most JRPGs.
 
If I were to play a Phantasy Star game (from the original 1-4) which one would you guys recommend? Since I have the Sonic Genesis Collection (which has them all) I'd like to try one out just for kicks.
 
[quote name='Rodimus']If I were to play a Phantasy Star game (from the original 1-4) which one would you guys recommend? Since I have the Sonic Genesis Collection (which has them all) I'd like to try one out just for kicks.[/QUOTE]

I've played through most of 2 and 3, and they were pretty fun. This was a couple of years ago too.


I've heard good things about IV too, so I'd say any of them would be worth your time.
 
Thanks guys. And after checking some reviews most people seem to agree that IV is the best one. Guess it couldn't hurt to spend a couple hours testing the waters.

Out of curiosity is the main Phantasy Star series a continuous story, or is each game it's own seperate story?
 
[quote name='Rodimus']If I were to play a Phantasy Star game (from the original 1-4) which one would you guys recommend? Since I have the Sonic Genesis Collection (which has them all) I'd like to try one out just for kicks.[/QUOTE]


Wait... you have never played any of them? Wtf ...

Phantasy Star 1 is short. It has a very simple game play and very classic plot. It did come out on the master system so a lot of the things it does, it was all very new at the time. This will be the shortest of the bunch but it start my life long love affair.

Phantasy Star 2 is the holy grail. I shit you not, it is some of the best shit you will every play RPG wise. The plot is very well flushed out, toons ( while not to much is told about them in the US versions ) are fun and still stand out to me. Oh and it started a trend with one of its main toons that still is done time and time again today with Nei. You also get a more in depth look on who and what Fals is from PSO/PSU which I know you played.Play this asap.

Phantasy Star 3 added a new twist to the series where you choose family lines and play though them each leading to a fight for the world, but how they get there and what happens is different for each path, making multiple plays a must.

Phantasy Star 4 goes back to the same set up that 2 had. This is really the game that leads into PSO. Very good cast, more flushed out than 2s, leading a stronger feel for each of them. With out giving away to any of the plot, shit is going to hell real fast. You have played PSO so you know the basics of what happened to lead up to that, this is the full story. Its a wonderful game it will suck you in and leave you wanting more.

Now yes I am a Phantasy Star fan boy, but once you play them you can see why without a doubt. People toss around classic way to much for games, but this is a series that laid down RPG elements that are still going strong today.

How the hell have you not played these Rod you poor poor man.
 
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