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So is it really just a home console version of the Vita? And cheaper? That's pretty cool considering a lot of people don't even use their portables outside the house anyway.

Still nothing to play, though.

 
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Vita has like 1300+ games.  Also, it's like a Roku.

Sony just slapped Amazon across the face.  Ze Shots Fired!

 
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I fully admit I would buy a $500 package that came with a PS4, a Vita TV thing and Persona 4 Golden.

 
panzerfaust said:
So is it really just a home console version of the Vita? And cheaper? That's pretty cool considering a lot of people don't even use their portables outside the house anyway.

Still nothing to play, though.
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The lists of games on it aren't that great either, at least not at first :/

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Haha good stuff, sucks about what you said about the KH theme not being that good though :/

 
MoCiWe said:
The lists of games on it aren't that great either, at least not at first :/
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The list is pretty big from what I'm looking at.

Dragon's Crown? Check.

Persona 4 Golden? Check.

Muramasa Rebirth? Check.

Soul Sacrifice? Check.

Sure it's missing the initial batch of exclusives (WipEout 2048, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush) but when they patch in DS4 support, I'm sure they'll be along as well.

 
corrosivefrost said:
The list is pretty big from what I'm looking at.

Dragon's Crown? Check.

Persona 4 Golden? Check.

Muramasa Rebirth? Check.

Soul Sacrifice? Check.

Sure it's missing the initial batch of exclusives (WipEout 2048, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush) but when they patch in DS4 support, I'm sure they'll be along as well.
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Huh, I must have read a list with only a few examples then, didn't know it had those...I don't think it's something I am personally interested in but if it does have most of the games then it's probably not that bad of a deal for people such as yourself who have a lot of games on the Vita and use it more than I do.

 
corrosivefrost said:
The list is pretty big from what I'm looking at.

Dragon's Crown? Check.

Persona 4 Golden? Check.

Muramasa Rebirth? Check.

Soul Sacrifice? Check.

Sure it's missing the initial batch of exclusives (WipEout 2048, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush) but when they patch in DS4 support, I'm sure they'll be along as well.
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There's just something mind boggling to me, here. Paying for a Vita TV..to play remakes/ports of console games..which I can already play in that same living room on consoles I already own.

 
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panzerfaust said:
There's just something mind boggling to me, here. Paying for a Vita TV..to play remakes/ports of console games..which I can already play in that same living room on consoles I already own.
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Most consumers sell off their old machines when they go to new ones so if PS4 won't play PS1 games/PS Mini's, etc. like the PS3 can then this may be an ingenious move by Sony. Also more digital sales of PSP, Vita, etc. games.
 
panzerfaust said:
There's just something mind boggling to me, here. Paying for a Vita TV..to play remakes/ports of console games..which I can already play in that same living room on consoles I already own.
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Haha I was thinking that same thing! A lot of these games are out on PS3/360 and many people who would have a Vita probably have at least one of those as well, but I guess people not keeping their systems is a good point, I have all of my systems still though.

 
MoCiWe said:
Haha I was thinking that same thing! A lot of these games are out on PS3/360 and many people who would have a Vita probably have at least one of those as well, but I guess people not keeping their systems is a good point, I have all of my systems still though.
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Right but we're the minority. When people learn the new consoles wont play the old stuff they'll grumble at first then sell all their stuff to get the new stuff. Parents won't let their kids keep old games/systems they don't play.
 
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So PS4 will come out -> average consumer will trade away his PS3 for ~$100 -> now he can get a Vita TV and rebuild his library.

Not trying to be a dick. Maybe I'm just not thinking clearly here?

 
corrosivefrost said:
The list is pretty big from what I'm looking at.

Dragon's Crown? Check.

Persona 4 Golden? Check.

Muramasa Rebirth? Check.

Soul Sacrifice? Check.

Sure it's missing the initial batch of exclusives (WipEout 2048, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush) but when they patch in DS4 support, I'm sure they'll be along as well.
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That's what I'm hoping re: more games working. I'd almost definitely get one if it's $100 and I can play Uncharted: GA, along with P4G and the other stuff that already works.

Defiitely worth it for those games, and ability to stream PS4 to another TV in the house without moving the console.

 
MoCiWe said:
Haha I was thinking that same thing! A lot of these games are out on PS3/360 and many people who would have a Vita probably have at least one of those as well, but I guess people not keeping their systems is a good point, I have all of my systems still though.
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Even if we consider "ports"... like... say... Dragon's Crown... which isn't really a port... but I digress.

Did you pay $90 so you could have both versions? No?

Are you like me... did you pay $40 for the Vita game but wouldn't mind playing it on the big screen when you're home and on your Vita when you're on the bus/train/commuting/away from home/wherever that your 40"+ TV isn't? Yes? Then Vita TV offers something kind of cool for you.

Why buy Rayman Origins several times... just buy it for your Vita then play it on your Vita when you want or on your TV when you want.

Furthermore, as I understand it, the Vita TV will allow you to stream your PS4 to another TV. So you want to play your PS4, but someone's on the TV it's connected to? Go play it on the TV with the Vita TV on it.

I happen to think it's a pretty smart idea.

Also, for the record, the closest thing I listed to a port in the 4 games above is Muramasa, and even then, it's not exactly a port.

For some titles, that argument is true... but even then... MSUHitman is right. If you get rid of your PS3 and want to play UMvC3, how's that going to work for you? It's not. Unless you bought the Vita version to take anywhere and decided you wanted to play via Vita TV on your home TV.

 
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panzerfaust said:
So PS4 will come out -> average consumer will trade away his PS3 for ~$100 -> now he can get a Vita TV and rebuild his library.

Not trying to be a dick. Maybe I'm just not thinking clearly here?
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Not like that but they'll trade it away for a PS4, meanwhile this is there and it could serve as a Roku box that also plays games for just a bit more than a Roku box currently goes for. It would be treated like an add-on like controllers, etc.
 
MSUHitman said:
Right but we're the minority. When people learn the new consoles wont play the old stuff they'll grumble at first then sell all their stuff to get the new stuff. Parents won't let their kids keep old games/systems they don't play.
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Definitely true. I never keep old consoles. Already ditched my 360, and my PS3 will likely get ditched before I get a PS4 now that I canceled my PS4 preorder. I figure I'll clear our the backlog on it before bothering with a PS4 given there's not killer must have day one games in the immediate post launch period for me.

If Destiny is well done AND my buddy I play those types of games with gets it and a PS4, that would probably be the first real must have for me. Stuff like Killzone and Infamous can wait until whenever I pick up a console.

 
Don't forget Vita TV has Roku-like streaming features and will do remote play of PS4 to another TV in your house as well as connect ad hoc to other Vitas for multiplayer games.  There's just a multitude of little things that add up for this accessory.  

You can treat it as a standalone gaming device like Amazon or Ouya's systems, or you can use it as a clever add-on device to your PS4 or Vita.  It's kind of brilliant really.  

The more I think about it, the more I think this is really exactly the device the Vita needs to continue to exist.  Vita handheld doesn't have to compete with Vita TV--it actually opens the market up more for it.  Don't want to spend $200 for a Vita but want to play Vita games, this devices does that and will add streaming media and will sync with your PS4.  I own a Vita, but I wouldn't mind playing some of these Vita games on the big screen.  I'm probably going to get this.

 
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YBX87 said:
  corrosivefrost, if you still wanted killzone mercenary on a disc, check out the bestbuy trade in thread here, http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/295159-best-buy-trade-in-40-see-op/page-81. some quick profit making
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Thanks... I actually preordered from Gamestopo and will be picking it up tomorrow.

I managed to have enough points on my Power UP Rewards acct to get a $10 off any purchase, so I'm getting it for $30... that's probably the best I can do... so it works for me.

 
 
corrosivefrost said:
Thanks... I actually preordered from Gamestopo and will be picking it up tomorrow.
I managed to have enough points on my Power UP Rewards acct to get a $10 off any purchase, so I'm getting it for $30... that's probably the best I can do... so it works for me.
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you might have some of the old games on that list in your collection collecting dust. better to get rid of them now, while bestbuy is offering $10-20 for it for future purchases.
 
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For me, Vita TV = RPG Box. There are several PSP and Vita RPGs I would like to play, and that would be my entire reason for purchasing one. Add in all the PS1 classics I already own, and its a solid deal, certainly better than an Ouya for about the same price.
 
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 you might have some of the old games on that list in your collection collecting dust. better to get rid of them now, while bestbuy is offering $10-20 for it for future purchases.
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Not a bad idea, but most of my collection is either things I intend to play or things that are digital or things that are wayyyy outdated -- the only stuff I have for trade is some of my PS3 backlog (not going anywhere, mostly, I've pruned what I can already) and my 3DS backlog is all stuff I still want to play... so yeah. Probably not a good fit.

GhostShark said:
The Vita TV is cool I guess, but I still won't get it or a regular Vita. Neither play Pokemon.
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That's a good thing, from where I'm sitting. I've never played a Pokemon game and I don't plan on starting now. :p

 
Gonna dl that NHL 14 later yo.  Don't miss out on Puppeteer aka sleeper hit of the year!   PS Plus sales this week is horrible.

 
Yay, my whining worked!  Shantae on Vita!!!  :fistpump:

Also, Yatagarasu is getting screwed by Paypal.  I was wondering why they didn't use kickstarter...oh wells....

 
Paypal always gets shit for being crazy shady.  They decide they want to be a "bank" when it benefits it, but when something goes wrong they claim they aren't a bank.

 
 
snakeybro said:
Gonna dl that NHL 14 later yo.  Don't miss out on Puppeteer aka sleeper hit of the year!   PS Plus sales this week is horrible.
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nhl 14, is going to buggy as hell, just like the last one. preordered kingdom hearts 1.5 hd remix, still deciding whether i will actually pick it up. the dynamic theme preorder bonus is a joke. looked really blend.
 
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BlueScrote said:
Paypal always gets shit for being crazy shady. They decide they want to be a "bank" when it benefits it, but when something goes wrong they claim they aren't a bank.
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Yeah, I fucking hate ebay/paypal. They are one of those companies who exist solely to take people's money and don't want to give shit back in return...I mean, I'm all for capitalism myself, but these guys also make me understand why people hate the fuck out of capitalism.

 
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weevles said:
Yeah, I fucking hate ebay/paypal. They are one of those companies who exist solely to take people's money and don't want to give shit back in return...I mean, I'm all for capitalism myself, but these guys also make me understand why people hate the fuck out of capitalism.
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Paypal got me $500 back when someone tried selling me a used Samsung Galaxy S3 as if it were new. So I have some love for Paypal.

 
corrosivefrost said:
. So I have some love for Paypal.
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So you got a new phone and your $500 back. fuck the system.

So uh beat flamelurker with some co-op help walked solo into the next boss area it roared I turned off my ps3. I aint ready for that shit.

 
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I finally made up the time I lost on losing my MGS3 save, finished it yesterday. 1 is still my favorite but i liked 3 more than 2. Don't think I'll be jumping into 4 yet, but at least I'm actually up to the point where I can play it. 

I like the Vita TV idea. I feel like a Sony fanboy at this point. When did this happen exactly? It's not a horrible idea though, it's like Sony's idea of a Roku. The games and infrastructure for this already exist. It was smart to add the PS4 streaming as well, which will be nice for multiple TVs in the house. Plus at the end of the day it's so small and portable wouldn't be a bad bring it with me console. 

 
corrosivefrost said:
Even if we consider "ports"... like... say... Dragon's Crown... which isn't really a port... but I digress.

Did you pay $90 so you could have both versions? No?

Are you like me... did you pay $40 for the Vita game but wouldn't mind playing it on the big screen when you're home and on your Vita when you're on the bus/train/commuting/away from home/wherever that your 40"+ TV isn't? Yes? Then Vita TV offers something kind of cool for you.

Why buy Rayman Origins several times... just buy it for your Vita then play it on your Vita when you want or on your TV when you want.

Furthermore, as I understand it, the Vita TV will allow you to stream your PS4 to another TV. So you want to play your PS4, but someone's on the TV it's connected to? Go play it on the TV with the Vita TV on it.

I happen to think it's a pretty smart idea.

Also, for the record, the closest thing I listed to a port in the 4 games above is Muramasa, and even then, it's not exactly a port.

For some titles, that argument is true... but even then... MSUHitman is right. If you get rid of your PS3 and want to play UMvC3, how's that going to work for you? It's not. Unless you bought the Vita version to take anywhere and decided you wanted to play via Vita TV on your home TV.
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I didn't pay 90 for both since I didn't buy it in general yet haha, as for playing it on the TV, that feature was built into the PSP and I still only used it like 3 times, I'd rather just play on the small screen and have something else on my tv, especially depending on if it goes full screen or not (The PSP didn't which sucked), also won't have a PS4 at launch so who knows if I will by the time this thing comes out, it's just not a product for me, but if it sells well then that's good for them!

MSUHitman said:
Not like that but they'll trade it away for a PS4, meanwhile this is there and it could serve as a Roku box that also plays games for just a bit more than a Roku box currently goes for. It would be treated like an add-on like controllers, etc.
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Yeah but if you look at it as a Roku device there's also the Chromecast for $35, which has been selling like hotcakes so far, it's mainly the game features that will convince people to buy it or not.

weevles said:
Don't forget Vita TV has Roku-like streaming features and will do remote play of PS4 to another TV in your house as well as connect ad hoc to other Vitas for multiplayer games. There's just a multitude of little things that add up for this accessory.

You can treat it as a standalone gaming device like Amazon or Ouya's systems, or you can use it as a clever add-on device to your PS4 or Vita. It's kind of brilliant really.

The more I think about it, the more I think this is really exactly the device the Vita needs to continue to exist. Vita handheld doesn't have to compete with Vita TV--it actually opens the market up more for it. Don't want to spend $200 for a Vita but want to play Vita games, this devices does that and will add streaming media and will sync with your PS4. I own a Vita, but I wouldn't mind playing some of these Vita games on the big screen. I'm probably going to get this.
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What Amazon system are you talking about exactly? Is it that Android thing that's not out yet (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/08/08/amazon-developing-android-console-for-release-by-end-of-2013.aspx)? The only thing they really make now that plays games is the Kindle

 
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