[quote name='xycury']fighting leads to more fighting.[/QUOTE]
Sure. I don't disagree w/ that statement. However, I did say that fighting is a weapon of last resort and
if all other alternatives are exhausted, then sometimes violence is sadly the answer. It's not the civil answer. It's not the nice answer. It's not the ideal answer. However, it's a 'human' answer. Sorry, the world isn't all about civility or idealism towards your fellow human. If it were a truly universal concept, we wouldn't have the Russia/Georgia situation or even the Iraq occupation or Serbian ethnic cleansing or the Spanish Inquisition or Vietnam or Somalia or the Congo or South Africa or Nagasaki or Hiroshima or Stalin's secret police or yes, even the Nazi extermination squads of a lotta Jews. In each of those situations you have humans acting fatally violent towards others. Hell, I'd say virtually every nation on the planet was founded on violence because you'd have someone who wanted the resources the other had and decided to take it regardless of whether it was a better idea than talking.
I don't know why people need to think that this girl was totally all over this guy... thank god he hit her, because damn... he was going to seriously die /sarcasm
Now you're taking it out of context (even w/ the sarcasm). The fact is, the girl
was totally all over this guy. The slap she threw was the culmination of her aggressive behavior. You don't slap a person and not expect a retaliation of sorts, be it verbal or physical or legal. Plus, considering that the show is about people who were supposedly previously bullied as children having a chance to 'withstand a bully', the slap he threw was also the culmination of his behavior & past experiences. If not this particular guy, it would have been inevitably been someone like him. The show just lends itself to this kind of 'controversy'.
I think you hit the point on at least a wake-up call, but you'd have to know if she really is a slapper or not. If she slaps alot, maybe not learning anything, but if this is her first time, maybe.
By her reaction to the slap, she knew she went too far since she was so shocked that someone had the gall to hit her and not just hit her, hit her on tv.
I haven't really been in a fist fight before (i've talked myself out of them), but I've been on both sides, and definately had a belt/fist/foot as a child many times before.
How can you say you've never been in a fist fight but claim you've been on both ends? Either you have or you have not. If you threw a fist at someone, you were in a fist fight. If someone threw a fist at your face, congrats, you were in a fist fight. If it was your mom or dad who hit you in the face as a child, congrats, that's still a fist fight (even if it's completely one-sided). Fights don't necessarily have to be fair. The only prerequisites to a fist fight are two (or more) people who are antagonists to each other and the throwing of fists (in one or both directions).
I think in same gender, i'd partly do a push in your example, but I don't think I'd go into fisticuffs off the bat. I have a bit more control, and really what does that tell the other person? to start swinging some more.
What? And you don't think a push is not going to provoke a person even more who has already slapped you w/o provocation? If someone slapped you for no reason, he's out to fight so the only real way you're gonna get that person to back down is either appear strong enough to stop him from fighting you or have an army that's got your back.
I've gotten into many bar fights but I've never started any. It's always some drunk asshole who either didn't like me accidentally bumping into him or talking to a girl he likes but is not actually the bf of.
And in about half of those instances, my apology for bumping into him or talking to 'his girl' didn't cut it so what can I do? Curl into a ball where I'm an easier target to kick on the ground or make him pay for every drop of blood he spills a thousandfold? Sorry, my actual experience in fights says fight back.
Seriously either fighting just needs to stop, either by the first account, or the last account, but the circle will continue.
What does that mean? That just because a person stops by 'turning the other cheek' that the aggressor is going to magically stop by 'seeing the light and the error of his ways'? Unlikely. Sorry, life isn't a Full House episode that can be solved in half an hour. Sometimes it just means you gotta fight back.
Did you see the guys going after the guy in the video? Obviously he could have thought for a second before slapping.. and save himself.
there are laws to prevent this, when they are broken, punishment will be served, but fighting back to just fight won't get anywhere. Just makes a point to get back at the other one.
You're still thinking that fighting has to have a certain logic. People are irrational & emotional creatures. Just because there's a law saying someone shouldn't do something doesn't mean they won't do it anyway. Look at prostitution, drugs, underage sex, jaywalking, etc.
I'm not against Justice, just sensless violence. I think any person throwing their fists/hands at another is just less of a human being and more of an animal.
So are you implying that were someone being senselessly violent towards a beloved member of your family/friends and the authorities weren't able to get there in time, you wouldn't intervene if it meant a violent reaction? I don't know where you're from but I don't know anyone that wouldn't jump in, punches & kicks thrown, to save their loved ones.
Medal for what? quickly causing pain to another?
Where did I cause pain? Did you see anywhere in my previous post that I physically hurt someone? Emotionally hurt someone? In this post, I mentioned that I've been in bar fights but that was only used as a weapon of last resort where attempts at civility were attempted but rebuffed.
Where's the reason to being civil, respect, honor, compasion, sense in that.
If every person decided to immediately retaliate what initally happend to him/her, we'd all be dead by now.
You're still thinking that fighting has to have a certain logic. People are irrational & emotional creatures.
Yet, despite this, humanity still exists. Also, the argument could be made that if every person decided to immediately capitulate every time someone bullied them, we'd still be British citizens living in non-representative colonial rule.
Cripes even Mahatma Gandhi helped in the independance of India from which this show is coming from. It's not Irony is it? Maybe Hypocrisy?
Irrelevant. Even if Ghandi fought for India's independence, he doesn't represent all Indian people nor are all Indians required to emulate him.
that.
So much sense pouring out of this post its unreal.
how can she slap?! = best line ever.
