Glenn Beck: Obama Better For Country Than McCain would have been

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What the hell? First Bill is (somewhat) supportive of the public option, now Beck (somewhat) says Obama is better than it could have been (and says that he MAY had voted for Hillary "Hil-Dawg" Clinton).

Now, I'm not complaining. It shows that even the most ignorant are not all bad.

But think about it. If this is the viewpoints of some conservatives, what are the Teabaggers?

Bat shit crazy. Oh right. (Sorry, had to add my own opinion to the fun :bouncy: )
 
I don't see the news here.

But I do think it's pretty amusing that those of you that don't watch beck (except popular youtube clips and sound-bites), but think you know about him, are shocked by stuff like this when it's posted on left-wing sites.
 
I think Obama is better than McCain.

A lot of the people "on the right" are fed up with "the right's way" of doing things.
Now, we just need the people "on the left" to elevate their chosen one up to godliness, only to be let down as he under-performs again and again.

Then, maybe, we can get somewhere.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']I think Obama is better than McCain.

A lot of the people "on the right" are fed up with "the right's way" of doing things.
Now, we just need the people "on the left" to elevate their chosen one up to godliness, only to be let down as he under-performs again and again.

Then, maybe, we can get somewhere.[/QUOTE]

I was 100% in support of Obama (which was mostly led by the announcement of that ever-popular facebook whore Palin). Now, I'm not so sure anymore.

I agree 100% that he is under performing. Makes me wonder whether Hil-Dawg would have been better (although I am not giving up. Someone just needs to tell Obama that you need to be agressively assertive sometimes. )

We just really, really, need to get somewhere.
 
Define "Get somewhere"

A lot of people on the "Right" wanted Obama elected under the belief that they would be so radical that it would be easy pickens come the next elections.

I am not saying thats what Beck means, but Beck did rail against Bush daily, for the last two years of his administration.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I don't see the news here.

But I do think it's pretty amusing that those of you that don't watch beck (except popular youtube clips and sound-bites), but think you know about him, are shocked by stuff like this when it's posted on left-wing sites.[/QUOTE]

I watch it 5 or 6 times a month...pretty much from beginning to end, and I still think Beck is a moron. Fox is the only news channel I get, so if I can't sleep its at least entertaining enough, and I manage to get 15% of the actual news for the day. I have stopped watching it so much because all Beck was doing for a good 20 minutes is tearing down Peter Singer one of the greatest modern philosophers of our time.
 
Somewhere being virtually "anywhere but here".

Our current system is pretty boink'd up. It's going to take someone other than Bush #2 or Barack Politically-Raised-in-the-obviously-corrupt-Chicago-Political-Machine Obama to fix it.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Somewhere being virtually "anywhere but here".

Our current system is pretty boink'd up. It's going to take someone other than Bush #2 or Barack Politically-Raised-in-the-obviously-corrupt-Chicago-Political-Machine Obama to fix it.[/QUOTE]


Obama was never raised nor was he in Chicago politics. He lived his adult live in Chicago while being an Illinois Politician.
 
Beck's not actually an insane person, he just plays one on TV. And it works -- he's a millionaire. Sensationalists get better ratings. Every time he talks to a realist like Shepard Smith or Bill O'Reilly (I know, but STFU) it becomes painfully obvious he's just an alternate universe version of Ann Coulter built for Ron Paul fanatics. Pay any attention to him and he wins.



The dissatisfied are far louder than the satisfied -- don't be too quick to make blanket statements about The People's feelings unless you're discussing reliable polling data (contradiction?)... there are millions out there, like me, who solidly approve of the job Obama's been doing and look forward to his remaining 6.5 years.
 
[quote name='Koggit']Beck's not actually an insane person, he just plays one on TV. And it works -- he's a millionaire. Sensationalists get better ratings. Every time he talks to a realist like Shepard Smith or Bill O'Reilly (I know, but STFU) it becomes painfully obvious he's just an alternate universe version of Ann Coulter built for Ron Paul fanatics. Pay any attention to him and he wins.



The dissatisfied are far louder than the satisfied -- don't be too quick to make blanket statements about The People's feelings unless you're discussing reliable polling data (contradiction?)... there are millions out there, like me, who solidly approve of the job Obama's been doing and look forward to his remaining 6.5 years.[/QUOTE]
mark me down as well, and nearly all of my close friends, my girlfriend, and almost all of my co-workers.
 
[quote name='gareman']Obama was never raised nor was he in Chicago politics. He lived his adult live in Chicago while being an Illinois Politician.[/QUOTE]

I'm not even sure how to respond to this.

By raised, I, of course, was referring to his political career. Thus the "Politically Raised" remark.

As for Chicago Politics - you must not be from Illinois if you don't understand how much Chicago politics effects everything that goes on in the state. Sadly.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']I'm not even sure how to respond to this.

By raised, I, of course, was referring to his political career. Thus the "Politically Raised" remark.

As for Chicago Politics - you must not be from Illinois if you don't understand how much Chicago politics effects everything that goes on in the state. Sadly.[/QUOTE]
I am from Illinois, and no I don't know about Chicago politics impact the whole state, so could you please explain it to me. I mean I know that one guy who wrote that terrible book Obamantion seems to think it does.
 
[quote name='gareman']I am from Illinois, and no I don't know about Chicago politics impact the whole state, so could you please explain it to me. I mean I know that one guy who wrote that terrible book Obamantion seems to think it does.[/QUOTE]

Our previous crooked Governor was a Chicago native.
The previous crooked one before that served under Thompson (another Chicago Politician) for 8 years before he began his rise in state-wide positions.
40% of the state's population is within Cook County.

The Southern half of the state tends to vote Republican in elections, but major state-wide (and federal) positions are held by Democrats.

74% of Federal Congressional Delegates and 65% of State General Assemblymen are Democratic - while only about 50% of the voting public tends to vote Democratic.

Not to mention that horrible smoking ban (and no, I don't smoke) that was forced onto the rest of the state. You should check out some of the newspaper articles about local officials that won't enforce the ban until state officials are called in.

What part of the state do you live in that isn't effected by the tainted Chicago politics?
 
So your argument that Obama is a crooked Chicago politician is that he lives in Chicago. There was two crooked Chicago Governors. Almost half the population is in Chicago Area and they vote Democrat and a lot of the state officials are democrats? Also Illinois is run by crooked Chicago Politicians because the state passed a smoking ban (a ban that is pretty much becoming nation wide) and some towns and cities don't like it?
 
Um... you might need to re-read the posts here.
You said you wasn't aware that Chicago politics impact the entire state. I pointed to some various statistics that, in my opinion, go to show how the politics in Chicago (and surrounding Cook County) greatly effect the rest of the state.
 
I spent alot of time in Illinois and also don't realize how crooked Chicago politics ruin the whole state. East St. Louis does just fine ruining the southern part of the state all by itself.
 
[quote name='gareman']Also ( I am sure this has been addressed) why do you have a picture of the Joker with the word socialism under it?[/QUOTE]
Mercantilist conspiracy.
 
It's amazing how all the people who claim to know so much about Beck and hate him for their preconceived notions are all shocked by this. He's been saying this since before the election. It's news now though because the least watched new team reported it. Maybe if people actually listened to him as much as they claim they wouldn't hate him.
 
Is he trying to get his sponsors back? Or what?

And when he was on CNN, didn't he say he hated our health care system because we're treated like machines?

What the hell's his problem? Flip-floppin'
 
If Beck really thinks McCain would have been worse, I wonder what kind of Nazi McCain would have been then. Do you think we would have invaded Poland by now?
 
Everything these people do is tied to ratings, everything. Everything they say, everything they do, it's to keep the eyeballs glued to the TV.
 
[quote name='deathscythehe']It's amazing how all the people who claim to know so much about Beck and hate him for their preconceived notions are all shocked by this. He's been saying this since before the election. It's news now though because the least watched new team reported it. Maybe if people actually listened to him as much as they claim they wouldn't hate him.[/QUOTE]
That's a great post. Oh wait, that's because I already made that point.

And there will always be a built int hate-group for Beck as long as Sorros, dailykos, and their media tentacles are after him.

[quote name='detectiveconan16']Is he trying to get his sponsors back? Or what?

And when he was on CNN, didn't he say he hated our health care system because we're treated like machines?

What the hell's his problem? Flip-floppin'[/QUOTE]

See above. He isn't really. The only flip flopping really going on is what the left-wing media takes interest in. Beck isn't saying anything different than he has for years, when it comes to his preferences for president.

He does hate our healthcare system. He also hates the proposed solutions (for the most part).
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Um... you might need to re-read the posts here.
You said you wasn't aware that Chicago politics impact the entire state. I pointed to some various statistics that, in my opinion, go to show how the politics in Chicago (and surrounding Cook County) greatly effect the rest of the state.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, I get that. Chicago has a disproportionate amount of political influence on the state because of its disproportional population, and also probably because its one of the largest and most popular cities in the country. Isn't that how a democracy works? So I'll take your under established premise that Illinois is run by crooked Politicians from Chicago based on two governors and a smoking ban.....now how does it follow that Obama is a crooked Chicago politician? I want some examples or maybe just an example.
 
People just aren't applying logic to this topic at all.

A dislikes B, A likes B more than C, A REALLY dislikes C.

A=Beck
B=Obama
C=McCain

Beck is not a republican, plain and simple. Simply because McCain was the republican presidential candidate doesn't mean even all republicans liked him, hell that's a big part of the reason he lost the election.

You can prefer a democrat president to a republican candidate without compromising your ideals. In fact it merely points out that McCain was a horrible candidate, plain and simple.

He doesn't directly make the point in that clip but what he's eluding to is that Hillary Clinton is probably more conservative than McCain or Obama. I would tend to agree with him and I really feel like if I knew what I know now a year and a half ago, I probably would have been out campaigning for Hillary. At least she learned her lesson with healthcare back when Bill was president...
 
After serving time as Sec of Defense, Hillary will have the experience in the one area she was really lacking to make her almost an ideal presidential candidate. A lot can happen between now and 2012, but I wouldn't rule out voting for Hilary knowing what I know now either.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']People just aren't applying logic to this topic at all.

A dislikes B, A likes B more than C, A REALLY dislikes C.

A=Beck
B=Obama
C=McCain

Beck is not a republican, plain and simple. Simply because McCain was the republican presidential candidate doesn't mean even all republicans liked him, hell that's a big part of the reason he lost the election.



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I have never seen a logical formula like that.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']After serving time as Sec of Defense, Hillary will have the experience in the one area she was really lacking to make her almost an ideal presidential candidate. A lot can happen between now and 2012, but I wouldn't rule out voting for Hilary knowing what I know now either.[/QUOTE]

A party not endorsing their incumbent candidate for president? You must have quite the negative outlook on Obama's opinion poll performance over the next 3 years...
 
[quote name='gareman']because its not logic at all.[/QUOTE]

I replied obviously because it should have been quite clear I was not using formal logic in my post, nor was that my intent.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']I replied obviously because it should have been quite clear I was not using formal logic in my post, nor was that my intent.[/QUOTE]


then why did you preference it with "people don't like to use logic" and then followed it up with some formal logic looking formula that was not intended to be taken as formal logic? What line of logic do "people" not like to follow that you seem to follow that I am and others aren't getting?
 
If McCain was president Glenn wouldn't be able to say 'I believe this president is a racist...has a deep seated hatred for white people...I'm not saying he doesnt like white people'

When a Democrat is president, and there is only one real dissenting news network that is constantly providing voices to people who want to criticize Obama, FOX becomes the highest rated network.

If Obama wasn't president Beck wouldn't be on the cover of Time Magazine and we wouldn't give two shits about him.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']It was probably prescription-controlled madness on CNN.[/QUOTE]
I bet he and Rush could have some fun together.
 
[quote name='IRHari']If McCain was president Glenn wouldn't be able to say 'I believe this president is a racist...has a deep seated hatred for white people...I'm not saying he doesnt like white people'

When a Democrat is president, and there is only one real dissenting news network that is constantly providing voices to people who want to criticize Obama, FOX becomes the highest rated network.

If Obama wasn't president Beck wouldn't be on the cover of Time Magazine and we wouldn't give two shits about him.[/QUOTE]

Fox was top rated through most (if not all) of Bush's 8 years as well. But I'm sure you have clever reasons for that also.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Fox was top rated through most (if not all) of Bush's 8 years as well. But I'm sure you have clever reasons for that also.[/QUOTE]

Maybe its because Fox is the only news channel (besides C-Span) that comes with poor people cable (the cable that is like 5 bucks and gets you religious channels and network channels so you dont need an antenna)
 
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