goldeneye

andrew333

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this game is getting brutalized in the reviews, i ended up switching my pre-order to mechassault, looks like it was justified seeing the low to mid-6s that this game got from gamespot and ign
 
It got a 8.0 from OXM, and I feel they are very accurate, except when they gave Manhunt a 4.5, which everyone gave MINIMUM a 7.5 or an 8.
 
The game recieved a death sentence from me the moment they named it "Goldeneye". Bad move by EA's marketing team.

It also never looked that great, just looked like more of the same mediocre, but fun, Bond FPS games we've been getting on these current next-gen consoles.
 
I keep hearing it plays nothing like Goldeneye on the N64, but the multiplayer is solid. If they would have named the game something else, like James Bond (or 007): Rogue Agent it may be viewed differently.
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']It got a 8.0 from OXM, and I feel they are very accurate, except when they gave Manhunt a 4.5, which everyone gave MINIMUM a 7.5 or an 8.[/quote]

You think OXM is accurate? A fanboy magazine? Accurate?

At any rate.. I've heard it leaves a lot to be desired, and is quite slow. Multiplayer is apparently nothing special either. I've yet to hear anything positive about it, which is a shame.
 
[quote name='Scorch'][quote name='manofpeace20']It got a 8.0 from OXM, and I feel they are very accurate, except when they gave Manhunt a 4.5, which everyone gave MINIMUM a 7.5 or an 8.[/quote]

You think OXM is accurate? A fanboy magazine? Accurate?

At any rate.. I've heard it leaves a lot to be desired, and is quite slow. Multiplayer is apparently nothing special either. I've yet to hear anything positive about it, which is a shame.[/quote]

I know they are fanboys, but I generally agree with nearly all their reviews. They do write good reviews, although they are practically humping Master Chief.
 
For the record, I'm not a Halo fanboy.. I actually haven't touched Halo 2 in over a week.. I jut think the avatar is cool.

But yeah, Half-Life 2 totally kicks the living hell out of Halo 2.
 
[quote name='Scorch']For the record, I'm not a Halo fanboy.. I actually haven't touched Halo 2 in over a week.. I jut think the avatar is cool.

But yeah, Half-Life 2 totally kicks the living hell out of Halo 2.[/quote]

Never said you were, just OXM. To me, Halo 2 was VERY overrated.
 
Bond games have sucked since Rare hasnt worked on them. I havent found a Bond game by EA that I've enjoyed. graphics, AI, MP, weapons, gadgets. They've all been horrible. I'm waiting for Perfect Dark. sequel to the best FPS ever. and yes I consider Perfect Dark better than Halo CE or Halo 2
 
Once again, I think this game will get left behind with all the FPS coming out right now.....I think there will be 2 or 3 ahead of it at least....

Halo2, Ghost Recon2, Call of Duty (or Doody) ;)

If multiplayer is good, it may save the game
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='CheapyD']If you haven't played Everything or Nothing...now is the time. Its a pretty enjoyable game and you can get it for $14 used at EBgames.com AC.

Theres 5 left:
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235999.asp[/quote]

How does it compare to the N64 Goldeneye?[/quote]

Totally different game...think of it more like Syphon Filter (but better) that mixes in some well done vehicle stages (the motorcyle one is espectially cool) to keep things interesting. There are also some multiplayer (online for PS2) options.
Its a great game, and for $14, its a no brainer.

Solid 84% from GameRankings
 
[quote name='tenzor']looks like I will be buying prince of persia warrior within instead[/quote]

Were you not oging to buy PoP Before? It looks fantastic. I had some hopes for this Bond game but I agree with you all...why name it Golden Eye? It ain't no Golden Eye!
 
I didn't have enough time to cancel my preorder from ebgames.com. I hate when review sites review games a day before there release date. It total sucks for us gamers that preorder our games online.Now i have to return and switch my $15 discount i had on goldeneye 2 to Jade Empire.
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']It got a 8.0 from OXM, and I feel they are very accurate, except when they gave Manhunt a 4.5, which everyone gave MINIMUM a 7.5 or an 8.[/quote]

All game reviews are garbage. If I had a nickel for every time I disagreed with what videogame critics had to say, well I wouldn't need to be on cheapassgamer.com :D

That Manhunt review in OXM for example, total crap. They just didn't "get" the game at all. They went on about murky graphics, Jeez, its meant to look like you're watching a low-grade snuff film. And then they talked about simplistic gameplay. Bullplop! This game was all about strategy and forward thinking. You had to plan out every single bullet, if you get it wrong, you'd get five angry redneck Nazis beating you with baseball bats! The game was all about atmosphere, and the review totally missed the mark.
Anyway, back to Goldeneye, I have to say I don't understand the mentality of pre-ordering a game only to change your mind when reviews come in and they're not 9.5/10s. The only review that counts is your own; If I want a game, I'm going to buy it. For me, playing as a dismissed MI6 agent and mixing it up with Goldfinger and Dr.No is too good to resist. It would have to get Pulse Racer-like reviews across the board for me to have doubts about it. Of course I say all this before I've gotten my hands on Goldeneye. Hope to pick it up today, will post some reactions to it late tonight.
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='CheapyD']If you haven't played Everything or Nothing...now is the time. Its a pretty enjoyable game and you can get it for $14 used at EBgames.com AC.

Theres 5 left:
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235999.asp[/quote]

How does it compare to the N64 Goldeneye?[/quote]

Totally different genre. Its third-person, for starters, and it mixes a lot of different game styles - shooter, stealth, hand-to-hand, driving, with some really good cut scenes and story around it. They tried to make their own Bond movie with this game, and it worked pretty well. I still pop the game in now and then just to play the "Ambushed" level with no guns (can't get enough of throwing people over the stairs), and the motorbike chase level. For $14 I don't see how anyone can resist...
 
After playing the game, I realized the game is not bad. Oddly enough, I enjoy single player far more than multii. The levels are VERY dull. I wish they could have included levels like the facility from the original Goldeneye. I may consider buying it if it becomes a PH, or gets very cheap.
 
OK I got the game. Sadly, I have to report that the reviews are justified. It's dull. I thought it was going to be cool to play through the Fort Knox level from Goldfinger, but it bore little resemblance to the Fort Knox from the movie. Your character moves like he's wading through water, I can't believe how slow it felt. Is this done to keep the framerate smooth?

Anyway after you reach the end of the level (it just sort of stops when you reach a certain point, regardless of how many people you've killed), there's some bizarre music-video style intro about how Dr.No did something to your eye and now you're hanging out with Goldfinger for some reason, and Scaramanga has given you a new eye. All of this happens in about 30 seconds. Huh? Story please? If they're going to take the trouble to bring in all these Bond characters, how about telling us what the hell is going on? But no, it just throws you into the next level where you just have to shoot at some guys for some reason. No I've got to go back to the cut scene, it was bad! Dr.No and Goldfinger sound absolutely nothing like the movie characters. They've given Dr.No some generic Russian lunatic accent instead of his soft-spoken voice, and Goldfinger sounds like Hitler. They actually did get Christopher Lee to do the voice of Scaramanga, but this just makes Dr.No and Goldfinger sound even worse by comparison. Anyway this is just Bond fanboy nitpicking, so moving on...
Well I did move on, to the multiplayer, and things did get a little better. If you're a Bond fan like me, you'll get a kick out of some of the levels like Scaramanga's Funhouse, and the top of the Golden Gate Bridge. The Deathtraps are pretty cool, like on the Moonraker level you can wait for someone to run underneath the shuttle exhaust, and then flip the switch and watch them burn. Same for the Funhouse level, everyone wants to get the Golden gun, but its right in the middle of a deathtrap where someone can press a button to shoot spikes up through the floor and impale you. So that's a cool feature.
The multiplayer skins are disappointing though, you can only choose from about 8 characters, and most of them are generic "guard" or "scientist" type guys. Of course everyone picked the Goldeneye character because he's the only one who looks vaguely badass. But then I saw someone running around as Oddjob and I found out you can unlock new characters when you play through the single player campaign. Aaah that sucks! The single player and multiplayer should be independent of one another, especially when the single player is so uninspiring that you don't particularly want to play it.
Yeah anyway that's my 2 cents on this game, after one night of play. Hopefully the single player gets better, and they actually explain what the hell is going on. But first impressions do count, and my impression is that this feels rather rushed and underdeveloped. (The far superior Everything or Nothing was released 9 months ago...hmm. They churned this one out pretty quickly, no doubt to get it on the store shelves for Christmas). It just doesn't compete with other shooters on the market right now, its about on a par with Soldier of Fortune 2, which was a perfectly OK shooter, but a newly released shooter really should be better than a two-year old port. I'd recommend this IF you're a hardcore Bond fan and you're going to be using the multiplayer a lot. But if you can only afford one $50 game at the moment, or if you're on the fence about this game, then I have to say, pass. And if you don't have Xbox Live, then I just don't think the single player campaign is worth it. Sigh. I had high hopes for this one too, its just a big step backward after the excellent Everything or Nothing.
 
[quote name='dinovelvet'][quote name='javeryh'][quote name='CheapyD']If you haven't played Everything or Nothing...now is the time. Its a pretty enjoyable game and you can get it for $14 used at EBgames.com AC.

Theres 5 left:
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235999.asp[/quote]

How does it compare to the N64 Goldeneye?[/quote]

Totally different genre. Its third-person, for starters, and it mixes a lot of different game styles - shooter, stealth, hand-to-hand, driving, with some really good cut scenes and story around it. They tried to make their own Bond movie with this game, and it worked pretty well. I still pop the game in now and then just to play the "Ambushed" level with no guns (can't get enough of throwing people over the stairs), and the motorbike chase level. For $14 I don't see how anyone can resist...[/quote]


yes.. i'll add to the prasie of the game... its a nice change from the first person bond games... and while its nothing like golden eye.. the game is fun and defitnetly worth 14 bucks.
 
[quote name='Girion47']I'm waiting for Perfect Dark. sequel to the best FPS ever. and yes I consider Perfect Dark better than Halo CE or Halo 2[/quote]

i second that
 
i knew it! dam :x , i wanted to get this, but now i don't know :? . from what i'm reading they should of called it "007 Brown eye" :wink: i'll wait for it to get it used at eb or when price drops. :)
 
Watched a few clips of the opening level and that made my decision not to make the game. Boring, monotonous levels that reminded me of Halo (not flaming that game but do those levels disappoint me).
 
[quote name='brainstorm'][quote name='Girion47']I'm waiting for Perfect Dark. sequel to the best FPS ever. and yes I consider Perfect Dark better than Halo CE or Halo 2[/quote]

i second that[/quote]

I'm awaiting this as well but Rare's recent struggles have me a little bit concerned.
 
I just rented the game. I am actually enjoying it. Not GOTY or anything of course. I would agree with the OXM review. Of course, I am a CAG, so I won't be paying $50 for it.

As far as unlocking extra skins, etc, goes... well, that is something the original Goldeneye did, too.
 
Everything or Nothing is real good. I dont see why people still compare ever 007 game to goldeneye. It isnt made by the same team go play Timesplitters darn it! I liked almost every game since goldeneye on ps2 besides Agent Under Fire. This one is great and is 3rd person total different thing. As for the new goldeneye...i can see why they named it that since it you are the bad guy and have a goldeneye...it makes more sense being named that then the original but the game sucks and even more so since it shares the name to the original.
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']It got a 8.0 from OXM, and I feel they are very accurate, except when they gave Manhunt a 4.5, which everyone gave MINIMUM a 7.5 or an 8.[/quote]

ummm... That's a pretty bold statement, to say that you know every score out there. Besides, EGM gave Manhunt 7.0, 6.5 ,7.0 . And I agree with the other statements made about OXM not being reliable.

edit: That said, I agree with the staement from someone about how EA shouldn't have named it GoldenEye.
 
I just rented the game with my free GameFly trial. Overall, it's not a BAD game...I actually thought itwas kind of enjoyable. The LIVE was decent too....although a lot of people spawn kill it seems.

I may pick it up eventually....although I would rank it third in the recent releases of shooters

1. Halo2
2. Ghost Recon 2
3. GoldenEye
8. Call of Duty (there has to be about 5 more games better than this)
 
[quote name='doubledown']I just rented the game with my free GameFly trial. Overall, it's not a BAD game...I actually thought itwas kind of enjoyable. The LIVE was decent too....although a lot of people spawn kill it seems.

I may pick it up eventually....although I would rank it third in the recent releases of shooters

1. Halo2
2. Ghost Recon 2
3. GoldenEye
8. Call of Duty (there has to be about 5 more games better than this)[/quote]

of course they spawn kill you are evil after all
 
[quote name='jlarlee'][quote name='doubledown']I just rented the game with my free GameFly trial. Overall, it's not a BAD game...I actually thought itwas kind of enjoyable. The LIVE was decent too....although a lot of people spawn kill it seems.

I may pick it up eventually....although I would rank it third in the recent releases of shooters

1. Halo2
2. Ghost Recon 2
3. GoldenEye
8. Call of Duty (there has to be about 5 more games better than this)[/quote]

of course they spawn kill you are evil after all[/quote]

Spawn Killing is just a pussy's way of winning.....it is cheap
 
[quote name='redgopher']Every Bond game made by EA is poop.[/quote]

No. Everything or Nothing was good (though it played nothing like the previous Bond games) as was Nightfire (except for a few crappy stealth areas). Still, they did give us 007 Racing (shudder).
 
[quote name='doubledown'][quote name='jlarlee'][quote name='doubledown']I just rented the game with my free GameFly trial. Overall, it's not a BAD game...I actually thought itwas kind of enjoyable. The LIVE was decent too....although a lot of people spawn kill it seems.

I may pick it up eventually....although I would rank it third in the recent releases of shooters

1. Halo2
2. Ghost Recon 2
3. GoldenEye
8. Call of Duty (there has to be about 5 more games better than this)[/quote]

of course they spawn kill you are evil after all[/quote]

Spawn Killing is just a pussy's way of winning.....it is cheap[/quote]

exactly what a villian would do. I hated how in CS in some of the user created maps especially the awp ones you could die in the first second. Made me want to toss my pc out the window
 
[quote name='doubledown']I just rented the game with my free GameFly trial. Overall, it's not a BAD game...I actually thought itwas kind of enjoyable. The LIVE was decent too....although a lot of people spawn kill it seems.

I may pick it up eventually....although I would rank it third in the recent releases of shooters

1. Halo2
2. Ghost Recon 2
3. GoldenEye
8. Call of Duty (there has to be about 5 more games better than this)[/quote]

Seriously, I just gamefly'd Call of Duty (xbox) and how the hell did it end up so crappy? I suppose there would have been a way to make the controls worse (possibly if you had to use two controllers and somehow your feet) but they really could have done a lot more to make this game better. I think they spent so much time on the AI and "scale" of the game that they forgot to add decent gameplay.

Goldeneye is next on the queue. We'll see in a few days...
 
[quote name='jlarlee'][quote name='doubledown'][quote name='jlarlee'][quote name='doubledown']I just rented the game with my free GameFly trial. Overall, it's not a BAD game...I actually thought itwas kind of enjoyable. The LIVE was decent too....although a lot of people spawn kill it seems.

I may pick it up eventually....although I would rank it third in the recent releases of shooters

1. Halo2
2. Ghost Recon 2
3. GoldenEye
8. Call of Duty (there has to be about 5 more games better than this)[/quote]

of course they spawn kill you are evil after all[/quote]

Spawn Killing is just a pussy's way of winning.....it is cheap[/quote]

exactly what a villian would do. I hated how in CS in some of the user created maps especially the awp ones you could die in the first second. Made me want to toss my pc out the window[/quote]

If anyone played a lot of Goldeneye N64, they would remember spawnkilling was pretty rampant then. If you were good on the pyramid level, you could memorize all the spawn points when people died (they werent random I don't think) and get there as soon as the people spawned.
 
i finally broke down and bought goldeneye (even though i am the OP), of course i bought it by trading 3 crappy ps1 games to gamerush + $5.50, i kind of like it, it's pretty run of the mill but nowhere near as bad as the reviews have made it out, in particular i like the weapons, the multi is wierd because the character animations are so awkward it looks like you are playing drunk puppets but what can you do
 
After a couple of weeks, I "get" the game a bit more now...you just have to know there isn't much to "get", its just a big dumb fun shooter. Not sophisticated or smart, its almost on the Serious Sam level of lots and lots of killing of endless waves of goons, and not a whole lot else. Some of the AI is pretty cool, I was facing two guards, and one guard grabbed the other to use him as a human shield! That was pretty good.

Xbox Live is a hoot though, especially playing on "Licence to Kill" mode, i.e. one shot kills. That really levels the playing field, you can get noobs with puny guns killing hardcore FPS players. Still disappointed at the lack of skins though.
 
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