HD-DVD add-on now available - General Discussion (HARDWARE only)

[quote name='Ruined']LG Officially Announces HD DVD/Blu-Ray Combo Player to launch in Q1 2007
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home...rst-blurayhd-dvd-dualformat-player-225924.php
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/Engnews/20070104/660000000020070104110044E0.html

Great news for HD DVD! If you were a studio and you knew that both formats had both approximately the same userbase due to combo players, which would you release in? The one more expensive to replicate (Blu-Ray) or the one cheaper to replicate (HD DVD)?

In the end though, this is the best news for US! Kudos to LG - a formerly BD-exclusive company![/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info....not sure how this involves the 360 though ;)

I think this benefits BOTH formats and will not reveal a "winner". It hink the rumor is this could be priced from $900-$1300...we'll see though (I thought I read a much lower price at one point)
 
Do any of you have a problem with the 360 recognizing your HD-DVD drive? Typically when I power on the system everything is fine but once I play a game and then go back to the dashboard I get a red light on the HD-DVD drive (and my camera doesn't come on either - it is plugged into the HD-DVD drive). Even when I power everything off and then on again the red light is still there but if I let the system stay off overnight everything works fine the next day. This is my second Xbox 360 and the same thing happened to my last one. Any ideas?
 
[quote name='doubledown']Never had that issue with my HD-DVD drive....maybe you have a defective drive. Did you ever replace that?[/quote]

No... I guess I'll call Microsoft and see if they have heard of this problem.
 
javeryh, it's a simple fact: you're just not meant to have any state of the art electronics. I bet that leafblower won't even work right for you.
 
"Total HD" To be unveiled at CES 2007

In a surprise leak of what may turn out to be the biggest high-def news to come out of this year's CES, The New York Times is reporting that Warner Home Video is set to bring the first Blu-ray/HD DVD hybrid discs to market in 2007.
According to the story, the studio is hoping to both calm consumers' fears over the competing next-gen formats as well as spur high-def hardware sales by creating a Blu-ray/HD DVD hybrid, which the studio is dubbing a "Total HD" disc.
Click to expand...
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Forecasts/Total_HD/Warner_to_Unveil_First_Blu-ray/HD_DVD_Hybrid_Discs_at_CES/413

Now this should make things interesting.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']"Total HD" To be unveiled at CES 2007



http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s..._First_Blu-ray/HD_DVD_Hybrid_Discs_at_CES/413

Now this should make things interesting.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I saw this scroll by on G4 a couple of days ago, but I missed what company was actually doing it. I'm a little surprised that they are actually going to get away with putting both formats on one disc as it seems like the format owners wouldn't want to license that.
 
[quote name='shipwreck']Yeah, I saw this scroll by on G4 a couple of days ago, but I missed what company was actually doing it. I'm a little surprised that they are actually going to get away with putting both formats on one disc as it seems like the format owners wouldn't want to license that.[/quote]

If it retails for Blu-Ray prices its going to suck for us HD-DVD owners. I hope that they can come with a decent price but since the HD-DVD/DVD hybrids retail for $35, I don't see how this Total HD format will be lower.
 
Well, I believe WB already puts out HD-DVD and BLu-Ray. They are one of the few companies that support both formats. I'm fine now since I have a PS3 and this drive which the thread is supposed to be about ;)
 
[quote name='shipwreck']Yeah, I saw this scroll by on G4 a couple of days ago, but I missed what company was actually doing it. I'm a little surprised that they are actually going to get away with putting both formats on one disc as it seems like the format owners wouldn't want to license that.[/quote]

Hmmm... I was under the impression that companies would still put out separate blu-ray and hd-dvd discs - it's just that the player will be able to read both of them kind of like a player that plays CDs and DVDs now... granted, I haven't looked into this at all...
 
hybryds huh? jesus christ how much are these movies going to cost...

i just want the plain old hd dvd's (not combo disks) since they are the best priced
 
[quote name='javeryh']Hmmm... I was under the impression that companies would still put out separate blu-ray and hd-dvd discs - it's just that the player will be able to read both of them kind of like a player that plays CDs and DVDs now... granted, I haven't looked into this at all...[/QUOTE]

Well, there's two different things we're talking about here:

1. A device that plays both HD-DVDs and Blu-Ray discs
2. A disc that contains both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray

The former has been talked about in the past and if I saw the blurb right, LG is supposed to be debuting a concept one at CES that is reportedly around $179. I'm not sure if that is their manufacturing cost or what they are actually going to retail at (this was also scrolling across the bottom of the screen though).

The latter is a new announcement from Warner Bros. that they have apparently found a way to put Blu-Ray and HD-DVD on the same disc.
 
[quote name='anomynous']shipwreck, there is no way a hybrid HD DVD/blu ray player would retail for $179[/QUOTE]

I'm just relaying what I saw on the crawl. (I don't believe it either, but that's what it said.)
 
Personally reading that article and them listening the pricing on "Superman Returns" as $5 more than the Blu-Ray version I'm lead to believe that's a $5 since BB is suppose to be biased towards Blu-Ray from what I've heard.
Personally fuck WB and a combo disk. I'd rather just buy a plain HD-DVD and pay less.
Btw a few questions. Anyone have any idea how many copies of some of these movies are being pressed because some are taking forever. I'd like to get "Harry Potter and the Goblet Of Fire" but so far it's out only in the UK with who knows how long till it hits here. Any words on that and the previous movies? Btw does anyone know if I'd have a problem watching the UK disc? I mean I plan on getting an American player and hooking it up to my Japanese 360 which is what determines the regions it'll read from what I've heard. Along those lines to my knowledge the HD-DVD system is set up the same, with Europe and Japan as Region 2 so my big question is is the HD format the same in Europe as it is in Japan resolutionwise? I'd assume there'd be no problem with the framerate since all films run at 24 FPS.
 
Thanks to my HD-DVD and blockbuster.com I rented Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I was always curious about this movie but man I'm so glad I rented it, its soooo bad ass!

Also sorta off topic. I saw Crank on DVD on my upconveting Samsung DVD player and I could have sworn it was an HD-DVD. Is DVD quality improving as well?
 
To quiet down the price speculation here's a good article on LG's new player from Business Week's site.

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jan2007/gb20070105_428046.htm

Apparently it will be between $1000 & $1500 according to thier sources.

[quote name='LinkinPrime']Thanks to my HD-DVD and blockbuster.com I rented Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I was always curious about this movie but man I'm so glad I rented it, its soooo bad ass!

Also sorta off topic. I saw Crank on DVD on my upconveting Samsung DVD player and I could have sworn it was an HD-DVD. Is DVD quality improving as well?[/QUOTE]

An upconverting DVD has alot to do with the original DVD's transfer. If it's good it'll look pretty good upconverted, if it's a poor transfer it'll only make the flaws more noticiable. Also if you like Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang you may want to check out Smokin' Aces late rthis month, seems like it maybe in a similar vein.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Thanks to my HD-DVD and blockbuster.com I rented Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I was always curious about this movie but man I'm so glad I rented it, its soooo bad ass!

Also sorta off topic. I saw Crank on DVD on my upconveting Samsung DVD player and I could have sworn it was an HD-DVD. Is DVD quality improving as well?[/QUOTE]

Like the other poster said, it's really in the transfer. Generally, most "Superbits" will give you a good upconvert experience since they devote all the disk to audio and video rather than extras. Look for DVDs that put the extras on discs 2 or 3, a lot of DVDs will brag "new high definition transfer" or "digitally re-mastered". You can get a good idea how it will look by reading reviews at DVDTalk since part of their review formula is video quality.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Thanks to my HD-DVD and blockbuster.com I rented Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I was always curious about this movie but man I'm so glad I rented it, its soooo bad ass!

Also sorta off topic. I saw Crank on DVD on my upconveting Samsung DVD player and I could have sworn it was an HD-DVD. Is DVD quality improving as well?[/quote]

How'd you see Crank already?
 
Crank came into stores sometime last week. He could have easily bought it early. The guys at the local MovieStop showcased Snakes on a Plane a week early... granted they weren't selling them.
 
[quote name='Ruined']HD DVD goes triple-layer 50GB![/quote]

Poor Sony. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
 
Meh, this isn't a big deal. It means nothing til they actually manufacture them and/or put them out for retail use. Hell, TDK announced a long time ago that they actually got a working quad-layer 100gb Blu-ray Disc, but again it means nothing until they actually hit the streets.
 
Meh, this isn't a big deal. It means nothing til they actually manufacture them and put them out for retail. Hell, TDK announced a long time ago that they actually got a working quad-layer 100gb Blu-ray Disc, but again it means nothing until they actually hit the streets.
 
Meh, this isn't a big deal. It means nothing til they actually manufacture them and put them out for retail. Hell, TDK announced a long time ago that they actually got a working quad-layer 100gb Blu-ray Disc, but again it means nothing until they actually hit the streets.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Wouldn't the drives themselves have to support triple layer? And do they?[/QUOTE]

No, users of existing drives (including the 360 player) would be out of luck with such discs (as far as I know).
 
CES '07: Toshiba Announces 50GB HD-DVD

In yet another unexpected announcement to come out of the Consumer Electronics Show, Toshiba has reportedly developed a new 50GB HD DVD disc format -- the world's first.
The news first broke during yesterday's press event held by the HD DVD Promotions Group, and though tech details were few and far between, the news could dramatically change the competitive landscape of the high-def format wars.
A 50GB HD DVD would up the format's maximum dual-layer storage capacity by a cool 20GB, but more importantly, it would close the gap between HD DVD and Blu-ray. Blu-ray currently supports 50GB discs, which so far has been one of the primary tech advantages it holds over its rival.
We should stress that no working prototype of the format was previewed, but given the flurry of next-gen news that's already hit in the hours before the event officially kicks off later this morning, the best may be yet to come.
Stay tuned...
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http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/CES:_Toshiba_Surprises_with_50GB_HD_DVD/422

What does Sony have to say now? ;)

EDIT: Sorry missed the triple layer info above.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']CES '07: Toshiba Announces 50GB HD-DVD



http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/CES:_Toshiba_Surprises_with_50GB_HD_DVD/422

What does Sony have to say now? ;)[/QUOTE]

Again, they needn't say anything. This working 100gb disc is more than enough for a response... Oh wait, that was last year's CES. My guess is they'll very unneedingly try to pull off another one-up this year, even though at least capacity wise they certainly don't need to...

Also I figured our local HD-DVD fanboy Ruined would've known the triple layer announcment is about 20 months old. The only difference now vs. then is they upped it 5 gigs to try and even themselves out with Blu-ray. Guess I know why we never saw any of those 45 gbs discs anyplace, they were to busy competing with Blu-ray. Personally I think the back and forth one-upmanship (dunno if that's a real word) that seems to be continuing between them will only alienate regular consumers more. Both may go on to the point it makes it almost inconvient to the consumer and then they both may very well follow the path of the laserdisc or so.
 
With the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD presentations at CES over, the general consensus among the hardcores is Blu-Ray kicked the shit out of HD-DVD and Universal especially dropped the ball.

Keep in mind this happens every time announcements are made - the "winning" company rides a wave of hype for a month or three, and then it's all forgotten again when another big announcement shows up.

That said, I've always maintained Blu-Ray will be the eventual winner if there is one, and this does little to sway my opinion there....so enjoy it while it lasts. Regardless, this HD-DVD add-on player is still a hell of a deal.
 
It's upsetting that most of the studios supported Blu-Ray over HD-DVD. You would think they would do both, just to get more market share. I have both the 360 and PS3, but I enjoy my HD-DVD more (on my bigger TV)

Looks like I may jump to Lions Gate now on Blu-Ray.
 
Lionsgate has a deal with MS to put out movies over XBLM, for what it's worth. If you're going to bail out, there are probably better reasons than that.

Also, HD-DVD claims to have 300 new titles coming this year. What's amusing is people are going around, trolling HD-DVD forums posting the Blu-Ray release list for the year. While it does look impressive, it only has 99 titles on it. :lol:
 
man i wonder what lucas plans to support...

Star Wars on hd will sell a fucking ton and if it does go to hd dvd.. bb will be forced to fucking market it
 
[quote name='guyver2077']man i wonder what lucas plans to support...

Star Wars on hd will sell a fucking ton and if it does go to hd dvd.. bb will be forced to fucking market it[/QUOTE]

Aren't those still published under the Fox license? If so, right now they'd be heading to Blu-Ray. Maybe I'm behind on that though, I just remember seeing the Fox symbol on Star Wars movies in the past.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Lionsgate has a deal with MS to put out movies over XBLM, for what it's worth. If you're going to bail out, there are probably better reasons than that.

Also, HD-DVD claims to have 300 new titles coming this year. What's amusing is people are going around, trolling HD-DVD forums posting the Blu-Ray release list for the year. While it does look impressive, it only has 99 titles on it. :lol:[/QUOTE]

I refuse to pay for a 1 Day movie though....I'd rather rent through Blockbuster.com. Not a big deal though.

Yeah, Star Wars goes to Blu-Ray exclusively...that would be a hit for HD-DVD. I still enjoy HD-DVD better though. I guess once I get a new TV and a new house (wife wants one) then it may change.
 
Well if you look at HT forums now, everyone is screaming this is the end of HD-DVD. It's no different than someone saying Nintendo/MS/Sony/whoever is screwed when it comes to consoles - people get caught up in the hype and declare that one event has ended any and all "wars."

Yes, Blu-Ray came off looking a lot better over the last week, but like I said, that's fleeting. The hype wave only goes until someone makes a newer "big announcement."

On a better note: Clerks 2 on 1/16, FINALLY! That's an HD-DVD exclusive.

Review here


Re: Star Wars...you can bet your ass that will be Blu-Ray exclusive, unless Blu-Ray somehow gets stomped mercilessly.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']With the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD presentations at CES over, the general consensus among the hardcores is Blu-Ray kicked the shit out of HD-DVD and Universal especially dropped the ball.

.[/quote]

sorry i haven't been paying too much attention to the ces coverage, but what has blue ray done to be considered kicking the shit out of hd dvd?
 
[quote name='ryanbph']sorry i haven't been paying too much attention to the ces coverage, but what has blue ray done to be considered kicking the shit out of hd dvd?[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind I said general consensus...this isn't necessarily what I think. I do think Blu-Ray had a better showing, but it was hardly the annihilation people are claiming it was.

It was not so much what Blu-Ray did (pretty much what was expected...announcing new titles), it was what Universal DIDN'T do. Universal didn't make any announcements about upcoming titles. When contacted, they just gave a vague "nothing has changed, we're supporting HD-DVD throughout the year" PR statement. 300 titles coming in 2007, but no specific title/date announcements. HD-DVD DID have some new hardware on display, along with the supposedly upcoming 50 GB HD-DVD disc. Some HD-DVD supporters are spinning this as "CES is for hardware, so it doesn't matter that no titles were announced," but that's pretty weak. They should have at least announced a few big name releases.


Also, Clerks II HD-DVD is on preorder at Amazon now for $21. Two disc set that includes features not on the DVD version.
 
First, it's sorta fun to keep an eye on TheDVDWars (http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/). It's just based on amazon sales, but still interesting. There's also a cool google search graph at the bottom which says something about mindshare.

Re: Star Wars, it's completely up to Lucas (not Fox), and he has said it's not going to be on either format. He believes both formats are short-term stopgaps until full digital distribution, and doesn't want to support either. Note that all 6 star wars films are already appearing in HD on HBO/Cinemax.

I love my new HDDVD player and I'm very much looking forward to rebuying the Harry Potter movies, Battlestar, Star Trek, and hopefully LOTR. I don't think either format will *die* like betamax until they're both made obsolete by digital distribution.
 
Yea i could of sworn i saw thx or someother lucas movie on hd dvd so i just started wondering...

it always takes lucas forever to release on new formats
 
I think the rumor is LOTR will be coming to TotalHD. I don't think New Line has put anything out, right?

I think we need a DVD Discussion thread now....the 360 HD-DVD is lost in the shuffle now.
 
[quote name='doubledown']I think the rumor is LOTR will be coming to TotalHD.[/QUOTE]

Is that warner's combo format? They can feel free to release everything on that format as far as I'm concerned.
 
Just got my drive...looks great, and the audio doesnt have problems like teh BD drive on the ps3 (though I think thats because my receiver cant decode DD at such a high bitrate).
 
You gotta keep in mind also that HD-DVD has been on top for a few months now, Sony was desperate to release some announements because they need the hype.

I am worried after hearing the CES announcements and with Total HD discs releasing in the 2nd half of 2007, I'm guessing big titles like The Matrix, Harry Potter, and LOTR will be using this format which sucks if they cost more than regular HD-DVD's because this will be a blow to HD-DVD consumers but not to Blu-Ray since they are already paying more per disc.
 
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