HD DVD Discussion - Warner Bros exchange program introduced 4/22/09 (see first post)

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[size=+1]***Warner Bros exchange program introduced for anyone interested in swapping some of their WB HD DVD discs for the Blu-Ray counterparts. It's not free, but you do get to keep the HD DVD disc. See the thread here.***[/size]

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The time has come to bid our preferred format farewell. An unfortunate but obvious conclusion to the HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray battle is that one of them would have to get buried in the end. I was happy to see many dual-format owners say that they preferred HD DVD, and even now the format offers some features that Blu-Ray is still catching up with.

Although the manufacturing of new players has come to a close, Toshiba will continue to support and service current players for the next several years.

The original HD DVD thread can still be found here and does have some helpful information here and there and was quite useful during the format's life. However, as it approached the 4500 post mark, it's clear that this is as good a time as any to start fresh.

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Here's a list of the top posters as well as everyone who had at least 10 posts in the old thread:

Sporadic 536
LinkinPrime 463
guyver2077 393
KaneRobot 327
thrustbucket 264
GizmoGC 151
rsigley 117
SteveMcQ 107
Sarang01 100
anomynous 94
Ruined 88
CocheseUGA 82
RedvsBlue 75
doubledown 75
ryanbph 69

Duo_Maxwell 62Deadpool 56terribledeli 54asianxcore 52mykevermin 49Richlough 46Bezerker 39propeller_head 37gunm 34captainfrizo 32dallow 31Ph8te 31DomLando 31geko29 28TheRock88 27Ice2Dragon 26Trakan 25rodeojones903 24cleaver 22bill123 22ashram 18Santurio 18tenzor 16jollydwarf 15Jedi1979 15halfbent 14dastly75 14velvet396 14pinoy530 13flybrione 13benjamouth 13chair_home 12staplerwow 12getmyrunon 12Transformah 11grendel19 11zman73 11porieux 11doctorfaustus 11Tha Xecutioner 11pimpinc333 10psychobrawler 10matowest 10nharmon91 10edison


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[quote name='Sporadic']Really fucking lame.

Looks like I'll only be renting Paramount movies from now on....It's going to take something amazing for me to buy one of their products again.[/QUOTE]

Its not Paramounts fault that Toshiba called it quits. Didn't Toshiba say that discs were going to stop being pressed pretty soon too?
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']Its not Paramounts fault that Toshiba called it quits. Didn't Toshiba say that discs were going to stop being pressed pretty soon too?[/QUOTE]

hurf durf let me troll the hd-dvd and xbox threads

go away, nobody's going to take your lame bait, you loser
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']Its not Paramounts fault that Toshiba called it quits. Didn't Toshiba say that discs were going to stop being pressed pretty soon too?[/quote]

i dont mind them quitting, but to do that with discs that they already announced sux. I know someone will mention blades, and I agree that sucked. They put time into getting it ready for production, they might as well see it through.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']hurf durf let me troll the hd-dvd and xbox threads

go away, nobody's going to take your lame bait, you loser[/QUOTE]

Its not trolling at all. I find it odd that you would blame Paramount for something that they did not cause. Maybe Paramount canceled the titles because disc presses are being shut down is a legit question. Why is it that you take all of this so personally?
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']Maybe Paramount canceled the titles because disc presses are being shut down is a legit question. [/QUOTE]

Warner has titles announced all the way to June.
 
Also looks like no paramount high def titles at all until summer


Paramount is expected to start rolling out Blu-ray Discs in the summer. Until then, titles will be released in standard DVD only.

so there will be blood, sweney todd, etc might never make it
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Shh. Stop giving out news and info, or you'll be accused of trolling.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, just look at my vicious attacks on rsigley and Linkin
 
[quote name='rsigley']Also looks like no paramount high def titles at all until summer


Paramount is expected to start rolling out Blu-ray Discs in the summer. Until then, titles will be released in standard DVD only.

so there will be blood, sweney todd, etc might never make it[/quote]Booo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
yea i'd really like those titles day of on HD DVD, but if that can't happen at least on blu ray

don't wanna wait months after the release date to get them especially since i decided not to see some of them in theater because i knew the HD DVD's were coming out in April
 
Damn...I really wanted Bee Movie...guess i'm done after "I Am Legend" as far as new releases go.

On another note, if anyone lives near a DVD Planet, looks like all their used HD DVD's are $9 including combos.
 
So I Am Legend is comeing to HD-DVD? I'm wondering how much lower some of the movies will go on Amazon.com.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']hurf durf let me troll the hd-dvd and xbox threads

go away, nobody's going to take your lame bait, you loser[/quote]So many bitter tears.

Nice to see Dreamworks confirm what we all knew though:

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSN2651290220080227

"We have a partnership with Toshiba and have an obligation to see this through," DreamWorks Chief Executive Jeffrey Katzenberg said on Tuesday.

"As you know, we have been well-compensated for our support. It really is in their court at this point to really declare what the next step will be. We're poised either way to jump into the marketplace when the conditions are right to do so," he said
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death sentence is the last hd dvd for me - got it yesterday in the mail

already ordered i am legend on blu due to extra features and i own all the hd dvd's i want

unless the jack ryan collection from australia comes
 
For those who didn't want to buy the trilogy because of Ocean's 12...

Ironic -- Warner is the last studio announcing HD DVD titles, and they are the ones who started the avalanche that resulted in the format's demise.

In any case, they've slotted stand-alone versions of 'Ocean's 11' and 'Ocean's 12' for May 20.

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/oceans11.html
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/oceans12.html

Specs and supplements are the same as the versions previously released in the 'Giftset.'

Retail is $28.98 a pop.
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http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=46404
 
[quote name='rsigley']death sentence is the last hd dvd for me - got it yesterday in the mail

already ordered i am legend on blu due to extra features and i own all the hd dvd's i want

unless the jack ryan collection from australia comes[/QUOTE]

How do you know the bluray will have extras that the HD disc wont? I'm thinking about geting it in bluray because of the fact that HD will be combo. Atleast that is what Amazon.com shows. Also does the bluray disc have more extras or the same as the 2 disc normal dvd?
 
[quote name='sendme']How do you know the bluray will have extras that the HD disc wont? I'm thinking about geting it in bluray because of the fact that HD will be combo. Atleast that is what Amazon.com shows. Also does the bluray disc have more extras or the same as the 2 disc normal dvd?[/QUOTE]

But while both the HD DVD and the Blu-ray will continue to carry four previously-announced animated comics among the disc's supplements, added to the mix on the Blu-ray only is a gallery of documentary vignettes dubbed "Creating I Am Legend," plus the featurette "Cautionary Tale: The Science of I Am Legend" (all in full HD).

Warner has also revealed that the four animated comics will be relegated to the standard-def DVD side of the HD DVD/DVD combo only.

dunno how it compares to 2 disk dvd, don't really buy those anymore except for horror

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...Warner_Expands_I_Am_Legend_Blu-ray_Specs/1446

sucks that HD DVD got the shaft with the documentary
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Eh, depending on the person, "well-compensated" could mean a handjob and dinner at White Castle. So, you know, this proves nothing about a payoff.[/QUOTE]

We know you completely refuse to believe that anyone was "bought off" in this High Def war without a well stated press release, but you're alone on that island.

If it smells like a payoff, behaves like a payoff, tastes like a payoff, and the chefs even leak out information that it is a payoff..... Well, let's just say that all those critical analysis or law courses in college that you seem to embrace so passionately - have you standing on denial island alone.
 
I have asked in the past and have always been told to go to http://www.highdefdigest.com/ but I have never seen this on the site. So I'm going to ask again. Is their a site that says what the extras are on the HD, BD and normal DVD? That way I can see what one has more when it comes to extras. I think I have seen them for the HD and BD on that site but not the normal DVD(single disc, 2 disc, Special Edition, ect).
 
Geez. All but the one that managed to ship from my Deepdiscount.com order have been backordered after being processing for four days. I really wish Amazon would pricematch them so I could get some decent shipping up in here.

I mean, seriously... Two of them were in stock, four backordered. One of the backordered titles has shipped, and now all the rest are backordered.

Edit: I just sent in a cancel order request to deepdiscount stating that "I would rather pay a few dollars more at Amazon.com and have them in two days than wait until the end of March and save a couple of dollars." Take that slowpokes!
 
[quote name='sendme']I have asked in the past and have always been told to go to http://www.highdefdigest.com/ but I have never seen this on the site. So I'm going to ask again. Is their a site that says what the extras are on the HD, BD and normal DVD? That way I can see what one has more when it comes to extras. I think I have seen them for the HD and BD on that site but not the normal DVD(single disc, 2 disc, Special Edition, ect).[/QUOTE]

There's no definitive, "reference quality" list that I know of. highdefdigest usually mentions in the reviews (and even links to the alternate format review) where they differ in extras and if they lose stuff from the standard def release...that's probably as good as you're going to get at this point.
 
[quote name='rsigley']already ordered i am legend on blu due to extra features and i own all the hd dvd's i want[/quote]

That was found to be false:
This time it looks as though the HD DVD version will be the one to get shafted as it will just contain the alternate version of the film and the Animated Comic as far as the notes I received state. the HD DVD and Blu-ray will be identical as far as features go. Also, it should be noted this will be released 3 weeks after the SD and BD versions street on April 8th.

We don't know the technical details as of yet, but once we have them and the cover art we'll pass it along to you.
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http://www.eyecravedvd.com/article.php?story=2008012315313175

They corrected their article when they found out that they would both have the same features.
 
lol yup no demand for new HD-DVDs at all

'American Gangster' HD DVD Tops VideoScan's Weekly High-Def Disc Sales Chart
Blu-ray may have officially won the high-def format war last week, but in a strange twist, the top selling high-def disc of the week was an HD DVD release.

Yes, you read right. Universal's 'American Gangster' -- released on the same day that Toshiba announced it would drop HD DVD support -- topped Neilsen VideoScan's First Alert high-def disc charts for the week ending February 24, 2008, outselling the top Blu-ray release ('Michael Clayton') by nearly 2:1.
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http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...eoScans_Weekly_High-Def_Disc_Sales_Chart/1526
 
Uhhh, are you sure about that Linkin?
Later articles than the one you posted show the BD version with two extra features.

And rsigley, just curious since I know you own both players.
Why do you get the HD DVD version?
 
lol yup no demand for new HD-DVDs at all

'American Gangster' HD DVD Tops VideoScan's Weekly High-Def Disc Sales Chart
Blu-ray may have officially won the high-def format war last week, but in a strange twist, the top selling high-def disc of the week was an HD DVD release.

Yes, you read right. Universal's 'American Gangster' -- released on the same day that Toshiba announced it would drop HD DVD support -- topped Neilsen VideoScan's First Alert high-def disc charts for the week ending February 24, 2008, outselling the top Blu-ray release ('Michael Clayton') by nearly 2:1.
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http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...eoScans_Weekly_High-Def_Disc_Sales_Chart/1526
 
Didn't you call you call that site a shithole that never checks their facts, Sporadic?
Surprised you still get your news there.

And yay for HD DVD R. Scott, even if the movie was very hit and miss for me.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']lol yup no demand for new HD-DVDs at all



http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...eoScans_Weekly_High-Def_Disc_Sales_Chart/1526[/QUOTE]

Don't forget to add the part where total sales for the week were 74/24 in favor of blu ray, since we are talking about demand. That is a very good performance for the movie, but it came out the same day as the Toshiba announcement so most people probably didn't know about the demise of the format yet.

[quote name='dallow']

even if the movie was very hit and miss for me.[/QUOTE]

Same here. I was quite disappointed.
 
[quote name='dallow']
And rsigley, just curious since I know you own both players.
Why do you get the HD DVD version?[/QUOTE]

no idea, i bought my mom a HD DVD player for christmas and i figure if she wants to borrow it she can

too bad the only movies she asked to borrow were on blu and she probably would never want to watch I Am Legend in the first place

but i guess with other news i'll get it on blu now
 
[quote name='rsigley']death sentence is the last hd dvd for me - got it yesterday in the mail

already ordered i am legend on blu due to extra features and i own all the hd dvd's i want

unless the jack ryan collection from australia comes[/quote]


Hey rsigley where'd you get death sentence on HD-DVD? I'd love to get a copy in high def that was such a great movie. On a side note I got my french copy of Terminator 2 from xploited the other day. I flipped through a few action parts last night and it looks fucking great.
 
[quote name='dallow']Didn't you call you call that site a shithole that never checks their facts, Sporadic?
Surprised you still get your news there.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I said it's that shithole that rushes to post shit before actually checking the facts.

It is but since, in this case, they have a reliable source, I don't mind sourcing them.

[quote name='rodeojones903']Don't forget to add the part where total sales for the week were 74/24 in favor of blu ray, since we are talking about demand. That is a very good performance for the movie, but it came out the same day as the Toshiba announcement so most people probably didn't know about the demise of the format yet. [/QUOTE]

It was the only thing that came out that week besides Galaxina and The Invasion. What did you expect?

My post was a dig at Paramount and the people who say that there is no reason to release the HD-DVDs they had planned since nobody would carry/buy them.

I think this proves that if they would have released them (Sweeney Todd/There Will Be Blood), people would have bought them regards of whether the format is dead or not.

[quote name='bill123']Hey rsigley where'd you get death sentence on HD-DVD? I'd love to get a copy in high def that was such a great movie. On a side note I got my french copy of Terminator 2 from xploited the other day. I flipped through a few action parts last night and it looks fucking great.[/QUOTE]

I would guess Xploited.

They just got it in a few days ago.

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/death-sentence-german-release-p-13531.html
 
There definitely would have been a lot of people there to buy Sweeny and Blood.
But Paramount doesn't care, they did the same thing with BD.

Where's my Top Gun! :p

EDIT: And that's not what you said, but whatever.
They were right in the end, it was removed from their press site early, which led to speculation that they were cancelled, which led to official announcement.
 
[quote name='dallow']There definitely would have been a lot of people there to buy Sweeny and Blood.
But Paramount doesn't care, they did the same thing with BD.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but they had 150 million reasons to do what they did to BD.

What's the motivation behind dropping announced HD-DVD releases (that you would imagine are already authored and just waiting to be pressed) besides just being dicks?

[quote name='dallow']EDIT: And that's not what you said, but whatever.
They were right in the end, it was removed from their press site early, which led to speculation that they were cancelled, which led to official announcement.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Sporadic']Imagine that, HighDefDigest rushing to post old news without actually checking all of the facts.

Jesus, that place is turning into such a shithole.[/QUOTE]

Which was true. The press release thing happened two days before they posted that article and than they immediately add "UPDATE: we may or may not be talking out of our ass, since retailers are saying that it's still on course"

The news I posted wasn't old and came from a reliable source (Neilsen VideoScan)
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Yeah but they had 150 million reasons to do what they did to BD.

What's the motivation behind dropping announced HD-DVD releases (that you would imagine are already authored and just waiting to be pressed) besides just being dicks?[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing, with Bee Movie supposed to be out in 2 weeks, wouldn't they have pressed discs by this time, or do they seriously do it a couple days before release?
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Yeah but they had 150 million reasons to do what they did to BD.

What's the motivation behind dropping announced HD-DVD releases (that you would imagine are already authored and just waiting to be pressed) besides just being dicks?[/QUOTE]

It really doesn't make much sense. It is dumb of Paramount to do so if there is no true reason for it. That is why the only conclusion I could come to was that the HD DVD disc manufacturing lines were coming down sooner than later.
 
Well I cancelled my order on Amazon for the Bee Movie (going to be cancelled anyway). I guess that Beowulf will be my last new release on HD DVD. I might pick up some others if there is a good firesale. It was a good run but I glad its over and one true format is the winner.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']I was thinking the same thing, with Bee Movie supposed to be out in 2 weeks, wouldn't they have pressed discs by this time, or do they seriously do it a couple days before release?[/QUOTE]

I have a hard time believing that Bee Movie is apart of the cancellations. All the retailers that confirmed that Paramount was nixing most of their future release also said that Bee Movie was slated to be the last movie released.

[quote name='rodeojones903']It really doesn't make much sense. It is dumb of Paramount to do so if there is no true reason for it. That is why the only conclusion I could come to was that the HD DVD disc manufacturing lines were coming down sooner than later.[/QUOTE]

I have three theories on why Paramount did what they did.

1) (probably) BDA gave them something to drop HD-DVD as soon as possible. I don't think it was money, maybe disc printing subsidies or something like that.
2) (most likely) Toshiba and Paramount had a falling out due to a disagreement on what amount was owned from their $150 million contract.
3) (super long shot) Paramount actually believes that they need to stop releasing HD-DVD to end consumer confusion on the market.

If I had to take a guess, I'd imagine that it's a mix of 1 and 2.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']

1) (probably) BDA gave them something to drop HD-DVD as soon as possible. I don't think it was money, maybe disc printing subsidies or something like that.
2) (most likely) Toshiba and Paramount had a falling out due to a disagreement on what amount was owned from their $150 million contract.
3) (super long shot) Paramount actually believes that they need to stop releasing HD-DVD to end consumer confusion on the market.

If I had to take a guess, I'd imagine that it's a mix of 1 and 2.[/QUOTE]

I see only 2 being likely. BDA has nothing to gain by giving up any more money to secure studios. Studios will release on BD now regardless.

I wish I had the moral principled fortitude to boycot Paramount, but I like movies too much.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I see only 2 being likely. BDA has nothing to gain by giving up any more money to secure studios. Studios will release on BD now regardless.[/QUOTE]

Would it be considered giving up more money if it's something they already give all of the Blu studios already?

Studios will release on BD now regardless but you would think that BDA would want to get them on board as soon as humanly possible to continue their momentum and try and take on DVD.

Even though HD-DVD is dead, there's still no Universal/Paramount/Weinstein releases on the format and I'm sure they would want to change that.

[quote name='thrustbucket']I wish I had the moral principled fortitude to boycot Paramount, but I like movies too much.[/QUOTE]

I mentally put all Paramount titles on "rent-only".

So all of the titles I was planning on buying, will now instead just be rented from Blockbuster.
 
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