HD-DVD Imports & You: A FAQ & Discussion Thread

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I thought I would make this thread to clear up some of the misinformation about HD-DVD imports and give us a place to talk about them.

I will be editing this and adding more in the coming days/weeks/months/years so if you think I am missing anything, have a suggestion, post in this thread, tell me and I'll add it in.

HD-DVD Imports & You: Frequently Asked Questions


Q: Why should I import HD-DVDs?
A: Good question. There are many reasons why you may decide to import a HD-DVD title from a different country.

There are titles available overseas that haven't been released anywhere else in HD (for example: Band Of Brothers, The Machinist, Mulholland Drive, etc.)

There are titles that are exclusive to Blu-Ray in America but available on HD-DVD elsewhere (for example: The Prestige, Silent Hill, Terminator 2, Rambo, etc.)

There are titles that are only available in America on a HD-DVD combo disc while available elsewhere on normal HD-DVD disc (for example: Children Of Men, Hot Fuzz, etc.)​
Q: Will these work on *whatever HD-DVD unit I own*?
A: Yes, any import you buy should work on whatever HD-DVD unit you own. The only title I can think of off the top of my head that has some playback issues is Enemy At The Gates with HD-A1/X1 & HD-A3/A35 players.​
Q: But aren't these in the PAL format?
A: No, PAL/NTSC formats are a thing of the past with HD. Most movies are encoded in 1080p24 with the signal (50 Hz or 60 Hz) determined by the player.​
Q: But *my store of choice* has it listed at a Region 2/PAL release!
A: Again, there is no such thing as region coding with HD-DVD. Most of the time when a store has a title listed as PAL or some different region, it's because they just copy & paste'd the DVD info.​
Q: Do these movies have their original audio or are they foreign dubs with English subtitles?
A: I have yet to hear about a import title that doesn't have it's original audio. Every American made movies should have it's English audio. Now, that doesn't mean that every import is English friendly. There are some foreign films that only have it's original audio and no English subtitles. Do your research before you purchase a movie and check this thread over at High Def Digest which is very well maintained by kannisto http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=3010
Q: So, they have English audio, what about their packaging?
A: Almost all of the time the packaging is in the language of the country you purchase it from.

Here's a photo of the back of some of the import HD-DVDs I own as an example. In the photo is The Machinist (Japan/Toshiba), Band Of Brothers Vol 1 (Japan/Toshiba), Mulholland Drive (France/Studio Canal), Perfume: The Story Of A Murderer (Germany/Constantin), The Prestige (UK/Warner Bros UK) and Terminator 2 (France/Studio Canal)

Q: How about their menus?
A: Same thing as the packaging but alot of Studio Canal movies have an English menu choice. Even if the title doesn't have an English menu, it usually isn't very hard to figure out what is what.​
Q: How about forced subtitles?
A: Some titles do have forced subtitles. Off the top of my head there's disc 1 in the Terminator 2 set, Serpico and some extras on other movies. The cool thing about Terminator 2 Disc 1/Serpico are that the forced subtitles are resizeable. On the Terminator disc you can just shrink them down to sit solely in the black bar or with Serpico you can shrink it down and push it to the bottom of the screen so it doesn't effect your movie experience so much.​
Q: What about this pitch correction/issue I've been hearing about?
A: Some of Studio Canal's releases have a "pitch issue" from where they corrected the PAL soundtracks to match the now normal video. The audio is 4% higher in pitch. Is this a big issue? Well, it depends on who you talk to. Some people don't even notice it, some people roll around the floor as if they have just been set on fire while screaming it sounds like Alvin & The Chipmunks. With me, I didn't notice anything was up until I got to the really high pitch noises (like the police sirens in Rambo or some of the ambient noise in Mulholland Drive) and even then it wasn't that distracting. It just felt like something was slightly off. I guess if you are a professional singer or if you have seen the movie a million times, it could be a problem for you but as always, YMMV

Titles with this issue are:
Basic Instinct
Elephant Man, The
Graduate, The
Mulholland Drive
Rambo: First Blood
Rambo: First Blood Part 2
Rambo III
Total Recall​
Q: Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a Blu-Ray player?
A: Well, unless you are planning to buy 30+ imports, I would say you are better off moneywise just importing the movies you really want to see. Plus like I said at the beginning there are some movies that are on HD-DVD that aren't available anywhere else in the world in HD.

Some people here may think I talking out of my ass about this part but what better proof is there than my own personal experience.

Here's my personal import bill so far (including the price of shipping)

Total Recall (France) = $34.22
Mulholland Drive (France) = $35.63
Terminator 2: Judgement Day (France) = $35.63
Elephant Man (France) = $34.39
Serpico (France) = $31.44
Perfume: The Story Of A Murderer (Germany) = $40.00
Band Of Brothers Vol. 1-5 (Japan) = $80
The Machinist (Japan) = $20.75
The Pianist (UK) = $33.21
The Prestige (UK) = $33.21
Reservoir Dogs (Netherlands) = $30.02
Les Triplettes De Belleville (France) = $40.02
Twenty Thousand Streets Under The Sky (UK) = $32.33
The Jimi Hendrix Experience: Live at Monterey (UK) = $36.50
Bridge to Terabithia (Italy) = $25.00

So doing the math, I have:
19 titles
13 titles currently not available in America on either format (14 if you count the Director's Cut of T2 that comes in the 2 disc set from France which isn't available anywhere else in HD)
$542.38 spent overall
And considering that Blu-Ray titles aren't free (using $19.95 as price point), I've only spent $163.33 extra on imports.

Of course, you guys won't be able to find Band Of Brothers or Machinist for those prices but currently I'm ahead of the game :)
Q: I'm now well informed, and I believe I want to partake in some import goodness. Where should I go?
A: Depends on what you want.

- If you are getting multiple titles from one region like the UK or France, the foreign Amazons are usually the best.
- If you are getting one title, a German title or a mismatch of titles from different regions, XploitedCinema.com (which is based and ships out of America) would be your best bet.
- Australia is worth checking out (specifically EzyDVD.com) due to their dollar being weaker than ours but they only have a handful of titles.
- If you are getting Japanese titles, it depends. For older titles, you usually can't do better than HMV Japan price-wise. For preorders/new releases, you should check out Amazon JP.

Be sure though when dealing with an actual overseas site to take in account VAT tax.​
Q: VAT tax?
A: Value added tax. Most (not all) foreign sites have VAT tax (up to 22%) added into the list price. When you go to the checkout page (right before you confirm your order), it will see that the item is leaving their country (if you are located in the US) and the system will remove VAT from your overall price.

The exact amount of VAT or even the inclusion of it depends on the store/country you are purchasing from.​
Q: Well, now I'm addicted to importing. Where can I find info on newer releases?
A: http://hddvdformat.blogspot.com/ is a fantastic blog that usually breaks import news or you can check kannisto's thread here at High Def Digest. He is continually updating his list with current/upcoming titles and where you can get them from. http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=3010
Q: Anything else?
A: Yes, some misc things to know is:

- Most Japanese titles come in a normal DVD case instead of a HD-DVD case (although with the release of Band Of Brothers and other newer release, it seems the normal DVD case is getting phased out)
- Not every import looks like the latest summer blockbuster (mostly some of the older ones aren't fantastic but they are still better than their DVD brethren)
- Trend with caution before putting down the cash for a title. Don't be afraid to ask questions.​
 
Xploited just put up Resident Evil (Japanese)

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/resident-evil-japanese-release-p-13347.html

I think it was Linkin who was waiting for it?

Or maybe he was waiting for Abba: The Movie :lol:

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/abba-movie-release-p-13348.html

[quote name='HumanSnatcher']I all ready have Crank on Blu Ray, but for fucks sake, I gotsta get me that HD DVD. Anyone heard how the picture quality of the German HD DVD of The Jackel is?? The original DVD is what seriously made me get into DVDs in the first place. Plus, its fuckin awesome seeing Bruce Willis play a cold hearted assassin...[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen it but somebody over at HDD said "The Jackal (German Import): Not bad, Tier 3, above Wolf Creek"
 
[quote name='Sporadic']It's coming in Germany (not as Grindhouse but the two individual movies) but rumor has it that Weinstein is blocking their release until they release it in America.

They better hurry up though, if they keep fucking around, I'll just buy that Japanese one, make a copy of disc 5 and than sell the piece of shit. I only want to see the theactral cut since I missed the whole 3 week window it was in theaters. :roll:

- edit Amazon JP already has it up for $64.64

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B0011DTTC0/ref=dp_change_lang/250-5312299-9117022?ie=UTF8&language=en%5FJP[/quote]

6 discs? wtf? I can't read what's one them, I can't imagine being able to fill 6 discs..
 
[quote name='DestroVega']While I have no interest in owning or even WATCHING Crank, that cover is awesome Prime... nice work.[/QUOTE]

He used the Theatrical poster.

They are almost always better than the DVD cover.

[quote name='DestroVega']6 discs? wtf? I can't read what's one them, I can't imagine being able to fill 6 discs..[/QUOTE]

There's a full list of what's going to be on the Japanese DVD on page 4.

It breaks down to:

Disc 1: Death Proof (Extended Film)
Disc 2: Planet Terror (Extended Film)
Disc 3: Death Proof bonus materials
Disc 4: Planet Terror bonus materials
Disc 5: Grindhouse (191 minute theatrical cut)
Disc 6: Japanese only Grindhouse bonus disc (106 minutes)

http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/art...Grindhouse_DVD_coming_this_March_42281207.php
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Xploited just put up Resident Evil (Japanese)

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/resident-evil-japanese-release-p-13347.html

I think it was Linkin who was waiting for it?

Or maybe he was waiting for Abba: The Movie :lol:

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/abba-movie-release-p-13348.html



I haven't seen it but somebody over at HDD said "The Jackal (German Import): Not bad, Tier 3, above Wolf Creek"[/quote]

I was waiting for it pending reviews...seems its not that big of an upgrade fromt he German version, I waited on getting RE: Apocalypse to see if I should get the Japanese versions instead but I don't think I'll be getting it. I still need to get Tomb Raider: Cradle Of Life and maybe The Island.
 
Some new news.

This is pretty early news regarding upcoming HD DVD releases in Germany... do take it with a pinch of salt.

It has been indicated by various sources that the remaining films in the SAW series are expected to arrive on HD DVD in the months August and September 2008.

- SAW II - August 12, 2008
- SAW III - August 12, 2008
- SAW IV - September 19, 2008

And the sci-fi film Jumper (2008), starring Samuel L. Jackson, Hayden Christensen and Diane Lane, is also expected to arrive on HD DVD in October 2008. October 10 to be exact.

You can be sure that once the official details of these titles are made available to us, we'll share them here on this blog as soon as possible.

http://hddvdformat.blogspot.com/
 
1408 is up on Xploited Cinema.

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/1408-dutch-release-p-13382.html

$33.95

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Also the full specs/trailer for Terminator 2: Ultimate HD-DVD have been released.

http://www.imagion.de/en/portfolio/...tor-2-ultimate-hd-dvd-release-early-2008.html



Coming March 20, 2008 in Germany

Specs:

- 1080p/24fps Restored 152 Minute Director's Cut
- English DTS-HD 7.1
- German DTS-HD 7.1
- German and Turkish subtitles
- Region Free (of course)
- 1 30GB HD DVD packaged in a Steelbook

Extras (updated 1/14):

- HDi menu system created by ImagionAG
- Audio commentary by co-writer/director James Cameron and co-writer William Wisher
- Audio Commentary featuring 26 cast and crew members
- "No Feat But What We Make" (Documentary)
- "The Making Of Terminator 2" (Featurette)
- "T2: More Than Meets The Eye" (Featurette)
- "The Making of T2: 3-D: Breaking The Screen Barrier" (Featurette)
- "Inside T2" Picture-in-Picture Mode
- Screenplay-to-Film Mode (English or German)
- Quiz Mode (English or German)
- Spy Mode (English or German)
- Interactive Mode (English or German)
- Deleted Scenes w/ optional audio commentary
- 574 page screenplay (English or German)
- 700 Storyboards
- 60 Cast and Crew Interview Video Clips
- Guns 'n' Roses - You Could Be Mine (Music Video)
- Teasers and Trailers
- Text covering Pre-Production, Production, and Post-Production (English or German)
- Filmographies (English or German)
- Photo Galleries
- DynamicHD Online Connectivity
- Bookmarking
- Hidden Easter Eggs
 
[quote name='Sporadic']1408 is up on Xploited Cinema.

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/1408-dutch-release-p-13382.html

$33.95

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Also the full specs/trailer for Terminator 2: Ultimate HD-DVD have been released.

http://www.imagion.de/en/portfolio/titles/portfolioshowcase/terminator-2-ultimate-hd-dvd-release-early-2008.html[/quote]

Weird...didn't think 1408 would hit without Weinstein HD DVD release here first. I'll wait for PQ/AQ reviews on it, wanted to see it in theaters but never got a chance.
 
For those interested, I ordered the first 4 HDDVD discs from YesAsia.com for Band of Brothers on the 15th of Jan (this year :p) and while they weren't in stock immediately, they have shipped today. I ordered the 5th disc from PlayAsia.com and it shipped almost immediately. Don't be deterred by "7-15 estimated to ship", it went through quickly for me and I'm glad I took the plunge. Can't wait for them to arrive :)
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Weird...didn't think 1408 would hit without Weinstein HD DVD release here first. I'll wait for PQ/AQ reviews on it, wanted to see it in theaters but never got a chance.[/QUOTE]

I still think that whole "Weinstein told Senator they couldn't release Grindhouse before them" thing was bullshit. Unless it was written into the contract, it doesn't matter whether Weinstein wanted them to release it or not.

I imagine that the real story was "hey we (Senator) didn't want to piss off Weinstein over something as tiny as releasing this before them so we are going to wait"

On the note of 1408, I'm ordering that and Tomb Raider 2 from Xploited as soon as I get some money.

[quote name='fretster']For those interested, I ordered the first 4 HDDVD discs from YesAsia.com for Band of Brothers on the 15th of Jan (this year :p) and while they weren't in stock immediately, they have shipped today. I ordered the 5th disc from PlayAsia.com and it shipped almost immediately. Don't be deterred by "7-15 estimated to ship", it went through quickly for me and I'm glad I took the plunge. Can't wait for them to arrive :)[/QUOTE]

I doubt you'll be disappointed with them. I had them for awhile now and they have fantastic PQ/AQ

Xylon has some amazing screenshots up over at AVS.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=901348
 
[quote name='Sporadic']
I doubt you'll be disappointed with them. I had them for awhile now and they have fantastic PQ/AQ

Xylon has some amazing screenshots up over at AVS.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=901348[/QUOTE]

Oh trust me I've seen them. I've already got the DVD box set of BoB, but the PQ and quality I've seen of the HDDVD set makes me have to double dip.

Kind of a silly question, but is there anywhere you can order "boxes" to put multiple HDDVDs in? Like the Matrix Collection comes in the cardboard sleeve with art on it that has the 4 discs in it. Thinking about finding one to buy or attempt making one for BoB.
 
[quote name='fretster']Kind of a silly question, but is there anywhere you can order "boxes" to put multiple HDDVDs in? Like the Matrix Collection comes in the cardboard sleeve with art on it that has the 4 discs in it. Thinking about finding one to buy or attempt making one for BoB.[/QUOTE]

I never heard of anything like that but then again I've never been a fan of cardboard sleeves.

Seems like it would be fairly easy to make though as long as you are semi-decent with Photoshop and can find a box that's the right size.
 
[quote name='fretster']Oh trust me I've seen them. I've already got the DVD box set of BoB, but the PQ and quality I've seen of the HDDVD set makes me have to double dip.

Kind of a silly question, but is there anywhere you can order "boxes" to put multiple HDDVDs in? Like the Matrix Collection comes in the cardboard sleeve with art on it that has the 4 discs in it. Thinking about finding one to buy or attempt making one for BoB.[/quote]

You could try to contact this site and see if they can make one for you, they are costly though.
http://designpaulchampagne.com/sequels.html
 
Never owned any Terminator film, I've seen them all but I've never thought about purchasing one, though that T2 Ultimate Edition looks fucking sweet, might have to shell out some money for that in March.
 
[quote name='velvet396']If the cost ends up around $35, looks like T2 will be my first import. Can't stomach $150 for BoB though. Maybe as a birthday present or something later this year.[/QUOTE]

I doubt it will be around that price.

It's from Germany so I imagine that it will be more like $40+ unless Tony can get a deal on them.
 
[quote name='velvet396']Can't stomach $150 for BoB though. Maybe as a birthday present or something later this year.[/QUOTE]

I can't either, but my tax return can! :D
 
1408 impressions from HighDefDigest's forum

[quote name='Liqwid']I just finished watching it.

I'd say, on PQ, a 4.25 or 4.5. There's consistent grain throughout the picture, but there is some macroblocking (it could just be my TV configuration) during that scene when the lights shut out and everything goes dark and red.

The audio sounds damn good, but I can't give a rating, as I don't have surround sound.

Extras include:
Two Alternate Endings (SD)
Deleted Scenes (SD)
The Characters (SD)
The Director (SD)
Production Design (SD)
Physical Effects (SD)

Trailers:
1408 (HD)
The Mist (HD)
Saw IV (HD)
30 Days of Night (HD)
Rescue Dawn (HD)

*All extras are in english and without subtitles (if you turn them off).

Seeing as we have just gotten 1408 and that Rescue Dawn is coming out fairly soon, I would say it's safe to say that The Mist, Saw IV, and 30 Days of Night will make their way to HD DVD via Dutch Filmworks.

EDIT: There is a "Commentary Track", and it can be found in the the Audio Options selection in the Set-Up Options menu.[/QUOTE]

Fantastic news about The Mist :applause:
 
[quote name='Ksinclair']This is a really awesome guide .

Thanks for all the info[/QUOTE]

No problem.

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Looks like the UK is getting Trainspotting and Shallow Grave in June.

Trainspotting and Shallow Grave are both HD-DVD bound this June in the UK Courtesy of Universal UK, both are special editions and arrive day on date with the DVD versions.

Shallow Grave : Special Edition - Universal - 16/06/08 - RRP £24.99
Trainspotting : Special Edition - Universal - 16/06/08 - RRP £24.99

http://ukhddvd.blogspot.com/2008/02/trainspotting-shallow-grave-hd-dvd.html
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']I know I'm going to sound stupid for saying this because of all the hype that surrounds this movie, but what's the movie about and why the big deal?[/QUOTE]

Movie from the Coen Brothers (Fargo/Big Lebowski/O Brother, Where Art Thou?) and it's been considered, hands down, movie of the year from most critics/people.

I haven't seen it yet (waiting for the HD-DVD) but the trailer on XBLM looked fantastic.
 
I just finished up a custom cover for Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer
ffrotssmallxm9.jpg
I'll get it uploaded as soon as I can.
 
Off Topic : Just Ordered Transformers the Animated movie Blu Ray from Amazon Uk for $31 shipped

ON Topic : Also got a HD DVD player for Xbox 360 from ebay for $60 and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, 300, and Nine Inch Nails Beside You In Time for $50
 
[quote name='hunterrogue']Mmmm any hints on Band of Brothers, it's like 37 amazon.com in Japan for each of 5 volumes[/QUOTE]

Get it from HMV JP.

It's still expensive but it's around $150ish
 
i picked up death sentence, very good PQ and AQ

its a DTS-HD track at 2048kb

its a little pricey (mine was $36 shipped) and the theatrical version not unrated, but i recommend it
 
[quote name='Ksinclair']Off Topic : Just Ordered Transformers the Animated movie Blu Ray from Amazon Uk for $31 shipped

ON Topic : Also got a HD DVD player for Xbox 360 from ebay for $60 and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, 300, and Nine Inch Nails Beside You In Time for $50[/quote]

Did you get anything with the hd-dvd player? Because $60 for it isnt a good deal. Sorry to say. You can find them for less than $50 brand new in stores (somewhere had them for $19.99 with a rebate) and probably find them even cheaper online.

Im seriously considering picking up the hd-dvd add on for my 360 because there are a few movies I would like to get and have no idea when they will come to blu ray (Transformers FTW)
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']I know I'm going to sound stupid for saying this because of all the hype that surrounds this movie, but what's the movie about and why the big deal?[/QUOTE]

It's just 2 hours of a long burn. *generic dumbed down plot description* Man finds something, another man slaughters people unflinchingly while hunting first man down. It's insanely good if you are into that kind of thing (which i am).
 
[quote name='Deadpool']It's just 2 hours of a long burn. *generic dumbed down plot description* Man finds something, another man slaughters people unflinchingly while hunting first man down. It's insanely good if you are into that kind of thing (which i am).[/quote]

So is it similar to Kill Bill?
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']So is it similar to Kill Bill?[/QUOTE]

No, Kill Bill is way over the top.

[quote name='taint mcgee']Every No country for old men link doesnt work. Has it been cancelled?[/QUOTE]

Yes, every upcoming Paramount release has been canceled worldwide.
 
[quote name='rsigley']just got 1408 in the mail

its in one of those fat hd dvd cases not the slim one, but it still has the HD DVD logo in silver

here's some pictures:

back cover:
http://i32.tinypic.com/30u4fpg.jpg

i'll try to watch it tonight for PQ[/quote]
Thanks for the pictures... your camera is too good... I think I found your missing eye-lash

Now for a serious question: is this movie any good?

Thanks
 
[quote name='outtie']Now for a serious question: is this movie any good?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Very good movie. I gave it a 8.1/10 in my movie log.

It's a psychologically thriller and John Cusack was perfectly cast.


[quote name='twen']I liked it. I'm surprised people aren't getting the German version of 1408 as opposed to the Dutch.


http://www.amazon.de/Zimmer-1408-DVD-John-Cusack/dp/B0011V7EVA/[/QUOTE]

The German one was never released and chances are it never will be.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']The German one was never released and chances are it never will be.[/QUOTE]

Oh? :(
 
Man i was looking forward to no country for old men. I keep gettin sad that Hd-dvd is dead. But without it dyin i would not get all these movies at good prices. It is a trade off that i dunno if it is worth it. There is no way i am buyin blu-ray for years so i feel like i am missin out.
 
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