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I'm unsure of what I'm really looking for here. HDTV, Plasma, Crystal, LCD, XTC, XD

I just want a good deal on a flat screen TV, that has HDMI? for the 360, 1080p or if higher...I think I need to do some research on these terms.

My budget is...probably about $500?
 
You should have bought one on Black Friday! I got the 37" Olevia at Target for $549 and LOVE IT!!! HD IS AWESOME. Wii with Component Cables looks VEY NICE! Don't let the BIG NAMES fool you, Olevia and Vizio both put out a good economy product.
 
I can't get a CRT, as the table my TV is going to be on can't hold that much weight. Buy panel, you mean flat panel right? And I'm restricted to 720p?
 
1080p on your budget is going to be near impossible unless you get extremely lucky. Vizio and Olevia brands are not the well known brands like Sony or Samsung but are good quality. Vizio is actually now the #1 seller of flat pannel TV due to their budget sets. That being said, I got an Olevia 32" for $500 about a year ago. You can find it for that price nowadays so you may want to go that route. Like I said before, a 1080p set may not happen but you may be able to get a 720p/1080i set but it's going to have to be in the 32/37" inch range.

Like you said, do your research on them and set your sights on what you really want your tv to deliver for you. That plus maybe you may want to save up a little more and get the one you want versus settling for a tv.
 
$500 flat-panel? Your SOL pal, sorry, unless you want a budget set (even if you found a HDTV CRT from say Sony, like there XBR CRT which they stopped making, that'd still run you over $500). Olevia has the best picture quality of lower price sets, but they have a host of issues still.


LCD is you're only flat-panel option at that price. And it will be 768p (aka 720p). You are probably looking at 26-27" or smaller also at that price. And with that size 1080p won't make a difference.


TV's are still you get what you pay for. Prices have come down, but the best/even good flat-panels are still easily $1000+, and yes there is a difference.
 
Save $500 more and get something that will last. I was in the same boat as you a few months ago. I bought a Vizio at first and absolutely hated it. Took it back and picked up a Sharp 1080p 42 inch, which cost $1100. It totally blows the Vizio away; I can actually watch SDTV now and the picture doesn't distort like crazy at any angle that is not straight on.

You want an LCD so you don't have weight/glare/burn in problems and can do PC hookup.
 
what are you talking about? did he say he wanted a pc hookup (which almost all HDTV's can do now anyways, get your facts straight)


if you research, tell me what you are looking for, im a perfectionist and spent a long time researching everything before buying my tv, ill never tell someone what to buy, but ill give you as much information as i can (also always remember this when it comes to tvs....you have to go by how it looks to YOU, not others)
 
Get a better table and a CRT.

The CRT will give much better image quality, will depreciate in value less, and is less likely to give you any technical problems. Really, the main reason is image quality. In your price range CRT image quality is unmatched.
 
I don't have a specific deal for you, but I'll post if I find one.

Let me just say I'm glad you are looking for a HDTV; it might take you a while with that budget, but it will be worth it.

Hopefully dafoomie will stop in this topic. He knows everything about HDTV.
 
The CRT will give better blacks, but a top of the line plasma, lcd, sxrd, or dlp will offer better colors (specifically plasma and lcd, and plasma's blacks are the closest to crt, therefore its the best of both worlds, well plus the higher resolution).

Problem is for $500, he likely can't get an HDTV CRT, not to mention the only decent one (the sony xbr960/970). Plus they are out of production, so they aren't easy to find on top of it.

He's better just saving up more money. If he has to buy now, Olevia will probably be the way to go if he likes the looks of it (though I'd definitely suggest upgrading down the line).
 
That's not true... CRTs offer greater color depth than flat panels. I don't know the average bit depths off hand, but I'm sure Google can answer that quickly enough.

Furthermore, Sony's XBR is far from "the only decent one" in the CRT market. Far, far, far from it. Even a cheap-o $300 Phillips refurb is going to give a much better image quality (in every regard) than even a $1,000 LCD.

Further furthermore, flatpanels (even 1080p) do not offer higher resolution. It's apples to oranges, "resolution" is not a good term to use, but it all boils down to both a 1080i CRT and a 1080p panel displaying the exact same amount of detail. The only difference is that the CRT's image is crisper, with greater color depth, truer blacks and no artifacts.


Don't get me wrong, CRTs aren't perfect, but I don't want the OP to make an ill informed decision based on the misinformation in your post.
 
untrue, because for example the horizontal and vertical resolution in the sony xbr970 crt is less than the 1080 standard (it puts it closer to the 720/768 standard), there is no true 1080i crt television, and yes by those in the industry, tech heads, picture afficiando's, etc when it comes to crt (hell even consumer reports which isn't THAT great when it comes to tv's) have declared the sony xbr960/970 the best HDTV CRT there is (and again they are out of production....as are the majority of HDTV CRT's)


i suggest you do a lot more research on the topic because you are off-base with a lot of your comments

i know what the hell i am talking about on this topic, trust me
 
u cant even notice the diff on screens that are 32" and below between 1080p and 720p.

$500 is gonna net u probably a 26" LCD at best.
best bet is to save up $300 more dollars...
olevia and vizio are the only brands u can probably get a 32" for 720p for about $550 or something.
 
a 30 inch crt hdtv weighs roughly 120 pounds. no doubt image quality is generally good, but wtf are you going to do with it when you replace it? i've got one in my basement right now. Aside from image quality there are other issues to consider, lack of 720p support if you have a ps3.

Also, with older tvs like that you run into odd problems like on my philips crt, if you're running say a ps3 with the xmb at 1080i and then the ps3 changes resolution to run a game, the input will go blank until you switch to a different input on the tv and then go back to the ps3.

500 dollars isn't going to get you much in a more modern set though. I'd say either save up for a better tv like relentless, or see if you can use a pc monitor for whatever you're doing. Some have component inputs and a 360 can be hooked up with a vga cable.
 
[quote name='Milkyman']a 30 inch crt hdtv weighs roughly 120 pounds. no doubt image quality is generally good, but wtf are you going to do with it when you replace it? i've got one in my basement right now. Aside from image quality there are other issues to consider, lack of 720p support if you have a ps3.

Also, with older tvs like that you run into odd problems like on my philips crt, if you're running say a ps3 with the xmb at 1080i and then the ps3 changes resolution to run a game, the input will go blank until you switch to a different input on the tv and then go back to the ps3.[/QUOTE]

The vast majority of CRTs support 720p. My Sanyo does, and it was a budget model 5+ years ago.

When you're no longer using it -- like any other valuable electronic device -- you sell it.
 
I don't think there are that many tube crts that support 720p though I know some do like the sony and your sanyo. The thing is I think people get confused between crt tube and crt rear projection sets when discussing LCD vs CRT.
 
A HDTV CRT will weigh more than 120lbs.


And it theoretically should support 720p as long as it's vertical and horizontal pixel resolution is higher than that, since CRT's can shift resolution's on the fly (problem is they never truly hit the 1080 standard, at least in consumer models, also there's a vast majority of other issues with them). That's the one reason why they look better with SD content (DVD's, old games, regular SD TV) at the same screen size as a different HDTV, CRT's don't have a fixed pixel setting, ie: no native resolution.
 
RPTV's and LCD's have off-center viewing angle problems, though RPTV's (even a DLP/SXRD) is probably to big for his wants


if the fat wallet idea is the best buy scam, thats a shitload of work and none of it is fail-safe 100% guaranteed to work anyways, because there isn't a true 1080p tv (let alone one that would actually be a really good tv, especially from sony, pioneer, or panasonic) that exists at this point in time
 
i just bought a Samsung 61" 1080p DLP UltraSlim tv. it is fking fantastic. watched my first movie on it last night and it was like being in an IMAX theatre. has 3 hdmi ports, bunch of component and composite ports, dvi as well. oh and the best part? its also my computer monitor!! youve never seen cheapassgamer until youve seen it that big. and it was only $2099.99 with 3yrs no interest at best buy on saturday.

for its DLP all the way. seen plasmas and they look good but i dont need one on the wall. lcds look good too but it seemed that you dont get much size for the same amount of money as a DLP.
 
At that price point you can basically get a 720p lcd. And if you watch for a decent deal you may find a decent brand. The 720p won't make a difference vs1080p at the screen size that you will be able to afford with $500.

Don't know much about this 1 but it is one of the cheaper brands.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?ATT=89112006&CMP=AFC-SlickDeals&Item=N82E16889112006

research it here


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/search.php?searchid=8248920

or another $477 when in cart


http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771917000P?vName=&cName=&sName=&sid=I0084400010000100312&aff=Y&sid=I0084400010000100383&aff=Y


or a little smaller but a panny

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5188526?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG


I peronally waited and researched quite a bit before buying my lcd.(42" sharp 42d64u 1080p) $1199@cc. Keep an eye on sears and cc websites as prices change frequently. Especially cc with there errors. I got lucky to get this tv for that price a month ago.
 
[quote name='Riyonuk']I'm unsure of what I'm really looking for here. HDTV, Plasma, Crystal, LCD, XTC, XD

I just want a good deal on a flat screen TV, that has HDMI? for the 360, 1080p or if higher...I think I need to do some research on these terms.

My budget is...probably about $500?[/quote]

Well, it'll be a stretch with the $500, BUT check out Visio. Last I saw they had a 46" you could get around 600.

Look on reviews.cnet.com and don't be affraid to get last years top model cheap THIS YEAR, heh. It's probably new, whatever TV you find, and it's more than likely just as good.

Don't, obviously, buy from a retail place like Best Buy or Circuit City/Fry's, etc. I've gotten my last 2 offline.

If you really want a TV with HDMI to "grow" with, make sure the TV supports HDMI 1.3- carries both video AND sound in 1 cable. Problem is, of course, 360 is 1.2. But your other, possibly newer devices should have 1.3.

1080p- you need at least 50" to get the full effect without choppy/squiggly shits. I mean, 42/46" isn't bad, but it's not the same.

Westinghouse also makes a cheap TV, but not as cheap as Visio.

Plasma might cost you more unless you look for "last years" tech. Plasma will tend to have darker blacks, but until last year, supposedly suffered from burn ins. Now they have some tech in the TV's which keeps that from happening. It was a factor when I decided to get my Sammy.
 
[quote name='SuppaMan']untrue, because for example the horizontal and vertical resolution in the sony xbr970 crt is less than the 1080 standard (it puts it closer to the 720/768 standard), there is no true 1080i crt television, and yes by those in the industry, tech heads, picture afficiando's, etc when it comes to crt (hell even consumer reports which isn't THAT great when it comes to tv's) have declared the sony xbr960/970 the best HDTV CRT there is (and again they are out of production....as are the majority of HDTV CRT's)


i suggest you do a lot more research on the topic because you are off-base with a lot of your comments

i know what the hell i am talking about on this topic, trust me[/QUOTE]

Name a single thing I've said that was off-base.

You obviously don't "know what the hell [you are] talking about", proven by saying the "resolution" of a CRT isn't 1080i. You're using digital terms to discuss an analog device. You're quite simply misinformed, and you're spreading that misinformation to other people.

I don't have any problem at all with you not knowing what you're talking about -- that's perfectly fine. Just keep it to yourself.
 
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