HELP! One of my friends has been cutting herself and considering suicide...

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want me to prove how much people care about me?

for at least the last month i've been cutting my wrists. i stopped for a while around my birthday. and you know how many people actually said anything... julie said something... htat is all... she, the cause of them to start with, said something... and never brought it up again. i'm addicted to the pain of it. though everytime i start up it takes a while... but once i start... i can't stop. it first got the cut on my arm from opening up the resin... slipped and the screw driver attacked me... but i kept on opening up the cut with a razor blade. and then added two more cuts... where i would constantly add a deeper incision with each demerit i gained.

i followed the example of everything i know... always wear long sleeves, it must have been normal to everyone since i wore long sleeves anyway, so i did a change i started to wear short sleeves to see if anyone would comment. then i went back to covering it up... like mad... i wouldn't leave my room if my wrists weren't covered. nothing. i'm an attention grabbing little monster. nothing worked. so i continued to cut. i'd even re open the cuts during school using my fingernails scratched at it, dug at it... left blood on my clothing. i haven't cut my wrists open for a couple of days considering i've been seeing mr. davidson so often... i decided to back off a little... i don't want him to catch me.

and then... for my "dearest" friends. i tell of the event in which i drank bleach. yeah... no one cared. no one commented. no one even said "why did you do such a silly thing like that"... i've been sick for a while. very sick. very easily dizzy and such. i don't exactly know why. so that is bothering me... something else started up. something i didn't start.

i should have taken the razor into school and cut my wrists open right infront of everyone. maybe then people would have noticed. but i'm not that desperate. i know now... that no one cares. everyone else has their own issues, i understand that. but not one single comment... nothing.(from the people who matter) the only thing i got was from dave. "that's stupid" it seems that the only people who choose to comment on anything practically hate me.


NO ONE CARES!!!


If I didn't care SO MUCH about the people who don't care for me, i'd stab the blades into my wrists and let the blood gush out.
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What do I do? I had no idea at all until I read that...and now I'm scared. She's considered suicide before...this is just one more step towards that. I'm talking to her on AIM and she says that she's fine right now, but I'm still worried...I don't want to see her dead.

Any advice at all will be accepted...and much appreciated. I haven't the slightest clue what - or even if - I should do...
 
She's probably doing it for attention, for someone to notice that something is really hurting her. Find out what it is, and see if you can help. This is just a temporary way for her to deal with it. You really need to talk and listen to her. The whole bleach thing is probably worse than the cutting. Most cutters I've known never did anything more serious then that. You must listen to her, and tell her you care.
 
Wow.. Someone is acually going through wat Ive been through..

Show her you care about her, tell her that you care, tell her that shes hurting you by hurting her self.. Tell her she means everything to her, that is if you like her or something like that.

Btw.. You didnt see those cuts on her? o_O
 
You need to talk with her and get her to see help...I used to ponder about suicide and thought no one cared...but I take antidepressants and im fine now ^_^ you just really need to LISTEN to what shes saying...If she wont talk to you I advise that you tell someone...Are you or she under 18?...If so they have a suicide hotline that you can call and they will help you...I considered it a few times but never called...I tried to hang myself christmas before last but luckily my mom walked it right before I dropped...You just really need to listen and show her you really CARE...show her you care about her and that shes not alone...believe me it will help
 
this isnt a joke, i had a number of friends go through this and 2 have actully attepted it, thankfully both were hospitalized and treated, i cant give you anything that will help, but let her know youre there and junk like that,if you think her parents will take u seriously, tell them, and tell them they need to have her treadted immedietly before she hurts herself.

people do do things like this for attention sometimes, but its not worth the risk to assume thats what shes doing
 
best thing to do is for her to see professional help. Doesn't have to be a psych guy, just a general doctor can prescriber her an antidepressant. Zoloft or Paxil would work, though she does need counciling to help get over the feeling of worthlessness.

If its any help, some of that story seems fabricated, one doesn't drink bleach and get dizzy. One drinks bleach and dies. It causes all sorts of nasty stuff to the body.

just for the record, i graduate pharmacy college in less then a year.
 
[quote name='sapientiam']best thing to do is for her to see professional help. Doesn't have to be a psych guy, just a general doctor can prescriber her an antidepressant. Zoloft or Paxil would work, though she does need counciling to help get over the feeling of worthlessness.

If its any help, some of that story seems fabricated, one doesn't drink bleach and get dizzy. One drinks bleach and dies. It causes all sorts of nasty stuff to the body.

just for the record, i graduate pharmacy college in less then a year.[/quote]

im curious if you know anybody on those drugs? the transformation is crazy, they become lazy and unmotivated to do anything! its really a sad thing
 
Just getting zoloft or some such wont help...you damn "doctors" and your drugs...she needs to be spoken to by a friend BEFORE a doctor...she needs to go to a psychiatrist...I got every couple weeks and it really helps...You just need to sit down and talk to her...My friend was doing the same thing and I told her (after talking to her about it alot) that if she did it I would personally kill her...She has since left my life and is now in jail and addicted to herion (at 16)...I feel bad but I did all I thought I could at the time...I wish I had done more...and I dont think you want anything like that to happen...so just talk to her...and above all...let her know you love her (as a friend or whatever)
 
i also KNEW a kid who stood on a box about to hang himself and his parents called me over to come and help him(i only had a few friends in my life)

i think ive never ridden my bike so fast but soon after his mom called me, the box caved in and there was nothing he could do about it........i felt like it was my fault for a while. but i later got over it

some times theese incidents are over the smallest things-my friend did it because his mom wouldnt let him go to the skatepark

it is hard to talk about but i hope that it will aware other people...........
 
punq is right...those drugs are widely overused and over subscribed...they only promote lazyness...Im on a drug called REMERON...its for teenagers or young adults (19-25)...All it does is balance the enzymes in my brain so that I function and have the normal emotions of a normal person...
 
[quote name='AzN_BaLLeR']Wow.. Someone is acually going through wat Ive been through..

Show her you care about her, tell her that you care, tell her that shes hurting you by hurting her self.. Tell her she means everything to her, that is if you like her or something like that.

Btw.. You didnt see those cuts on her? o_O[/quote]

To be completely honest, I didn't...she did a damn good job of covering it up when I've been with her as of late, and that hasn't been all that often. We haven't had any classes together in school for months, and I've been too busy to be with her outside of school.

I talked to her through instant messaging...best I can do right now, as my phone isn't working correctly. She says that she's doing fine for now...I'm not sure if I believe that, but it seemed like she wanted me to drop it for now.

I'm just hoping that she doesn't do anything overnight...I know that I'm not the only one who's talked to her, and I'm hoping that the support she's gotten will be enough for now. I just wish that I could do more...
 
holy shit...im so sorry pimp...that made me cry...The time when I tried to do it was when all my friends had abandoned me and my GF dumped me for someone else...I had no one to turn to...I felt it was the only way out...and I feel gothics friend might feel the same way...the cutting and trying to get people to notice wasnt really for "attention" but to show her someone cared and that it mattered if she was alive...and no one responding just confirmed her fear
 
On top of the things that others have said, you need to tell someone. Her parents, a teacher, anyone who can do something about it (if you can't). Obviously tell her you care, but that may not be enough. Someone may actually have to step in and force her to get help.
 
I have to agree on the overuse of drugs. They can be helpful in extreme cases, but a lot of times the person just needs a hell of a lot of counseling. I went though suicidal tendencies myself after my dad died. I only got through it all because of therapy 4 days a week after school. I was also on Prozac, but most question if it really helped once my tendencies were stabablized.

But first thing first, you should consider calling your local hospital or crisis line for info on how to help her. She may need to be admitted before insurance will do anything, but she needs to get help and she needs it now, whether she wants it or not.

At least you seem extremely willing to help her, and she will need people like you to help her through this.
 
[quote name='chickenhawk']On top of the things that others have said, you need to tell someone. Her parents, a teacher, anyone who can do something about it (if you can't). Obviously tell her you care, but that may not be enough. Someone may actually have to step in and force her to get help.[/quote]

about telling her parents. ONLY do this if you are 100% sure they will take you seriously! i knew alot of kids whose parents considered things like this a phase or a fad and some would be stupid enough to bring it up to their kids a punish them for it!! how retarted do you have to be?!
 
[quote name='Gothic_Walrus']What do I do? I had no idea at all until I read that...and now I'm scared[/quote]

I had to deal with a case like this when I was an RA, scared the shit out of me. Make sure you talk to her about it. Never, ever think she's bluffing. If she says she wants to kill herself, ask when and how. I'd also suggest trying to contact her parents (discretely) to see if they are aware of the issue and to verify if she is getting the proper help for it.
 
Definitely spend time with her. I remember comtemplating suicide one time. But then I remembered about all the kickass games that are coming out.

Yes, Im a bigger nerd than you :p. Booyah.
 
They're all right. You have to tell an adult right away because it sounds like this girl is sounding pretty serious about it. It also sounds like she's an attention whore talking about cutting herself in front of everyone just to make them notice, but it's probably got something to do with her family life... and what's been happening. You have to take her seriously because if you don't, horrible, HORRIBLE things could happen like she could actually and no one would be there or believe her when she told all her friends before she really did it. Talk to the guidance counselor and remain confidential or something, but she needs help right away and needs to get her life back on track as quickly as possible so she doesn't do anything drastic or in a cry for help or attention.
Then again, this could just be teenage hormones crying out for help. She did say to you that she wanted you to drop it... which perhaps indicates embarassment about the situation? Maybe she just had a bad day and was venting and shouting that nobody cares. Now I don't doubt for a second that she doesn't cut herself because I would be in the wrong doing that, not many people lie about that kind of shit that happens. But keep encouraging her that people do care about her and that she's loved. Don't just say it, SHOW it. Start being around her more often, be friendly to her and have a happy look on your face. Make her get outside and enjoy the beauty of the world. If she's really serious about this, you could just help her change her mind. Just keep showing her that you care and be stubborn about it. Listen when she's hurting and needs to vent from her days. It'll all pay off if you do.
 
This is a hell of a lot for any friend to deal with. Get in touch with her parents, teachers, guidance counselor, friends - anyone you think will listen. This is too much for you to deal with all by yourself. Talk to her too and let her know you are there for her to talk to. I hope it all works out well.
 
I disagree with the "tell an adult"...this only needs to be done after you have talked with her...You dont just need to throw her in a psyche ward w/o knowing the facts...because THEY WILL put her in a psychatric hospital...you need to talk with her and make sure you understand the circumstances and whats going on with her before you tell anyone...Im not saying never tell an adult...I do advise you tell one...just not before you talk to her...
 
I've had many, MANY, a friend do this, and none of them were the real McCoy. They were all just attention grabbing little bastards. Find out if she really needs help, then treat accordingly. Talk to her, IN PERSON, and tell her parents if need be.
 
does your school have a shrink? that would be THE best person to tell and talk to about it, but again treat this carefully, dont give names, ask them what to do and things like that, teachers and counselers also take these as jokes, not the best people to tell.
 
I actually had someone save me once before (before my mom) it was in 5th grade (yes I know thats young but still) I talked about killing myself and that I tried to slit my wrists and my friend told his mom and his mom called the guidence counselor and I had to talk to her...damn near save my fucking life...
 
[quote name='punqsux']
people do do things like this for attention sometimes, but its not worth the risk to assume thats what shes doing[/quote]

Ya, you better tell someone, her parents or school counseler.
 
[quote name='punqsux'][quote name='sapientiam']best thing to do is for her to see professional help. Doesn't have to be a psych guy, just a general doctor can prescriber her an antidepressant. Zoloft or Paxil would work, though she does need counciling to help get over the feeling of worthlessness.

If its any help, some of that story seems fabricated, one doesn't drink bleach and get dizzy. One drinks bleach and dies. It causes all sorts of nasty stuff to the body.

just for the record, i graduate pharmacy college in less then a year.[/quote]

im curious if you know anybody on those drugs? the transformation is crazy, they become lazy and unmotivated to do anything! its really a sad thing[/quote]

While the fatigue is common, it does wear off (you get use to it), and its much more common in the older drugs such as Remeron, i do suppose you take the drug before bed. Depression is partly defined as lack of motivation, so thats why people say the drug causes that. FYI a side effect of Tylenol is Head Aches. It takes several weeks for one to see a benefit from antidepressant therpy, its not an immediate feel better drug.

Emotional support is a big thing, and there is alot of evidence that therpy alone is all that one needs to overcome depression. You will want to be there for her, becareful because sometimes the more you push, the more they'll retreat from you as well as from everybody else.
 
I wouldn't screw around. Tell an adult. Not everyone is going to fly off the handle and try to have her committed, but she will get the help she needs.
 
This may sound cliche, but tell her that there is nothing wrong with feeling sad, it happens to everybody. But this is the wrong way to deal with it. Everybody gets lonely, noone is immune to it (and those that think they are will eventually get hit hard).
 
I worked in a Children's Psychiatric wing of a Psychiatric Hospital. A large percentage of the kids we dealt with cut themselves. They did it to be able to control how they were feeling. They liked the ability to give them pain when they felt like it and on their terms.

She needs to work on problem solving and work on her problems. I strongly suggest you tell a parent. She def needs some mental health to be able to deal with her problems. Most of the people I dealt with though about suicide and very few actually attempted it, but you def dont want to play percentages with someone's life. Get help for her now, she might not like you now but if you are her friend its the right thing to do.
 
I'm not making light of this in anyway, but this isn't the place to be talking to about this. Honestly, show this to her parents. I'm sure they already know that their daughter is troubled, but perhaps not this troubled. While it is good that you are concerned about your friend, ultimately you need to let her family work this out.
 
[quote name='Tromack']I'm not making light of this in anyway, but this isn't the place to be talking to about this. Honestly, show this to her parents. I'm sure they already know that their daughter is troubled, but perhaps not this troubled. While it is good that you are concerned about your friend, ultimately you need to let her family work this out.[/quote]
as stated twice, judge this by the case, some parents are real idiots


im not sure why this isnt the place to talk about this. sure, it is a gaming site, but he was just asking for help, and look at how helpful everyone has been!

had this been posted on gamefaqs, it would be answered by every troll on the site
 
[quote name='punqsux'][quote name='Tromack']I'm not making light of this in anyway, but this isn't the place to be talking to about this. Honestly, show this to her parents. I'm sure they already know that their daughter is troubled, but perhaps not this troubled. While it is good that you are concerned about your friend, ultimately you need to let her family work this out.[/quote]
as stated twice, judge this by the case, some parents are real idiots


im not sure why this isnt the place to talk about this. sure, it is a gaming site, but he was just asking for help, and look at how helpful everyone has been!

had this been posted on gamefaqs, it would be answered by every troll on the site[/quote]

no need to troll, dont be like them, keep it clean
 
call loveline and speak to dr drew or whatever his name is...he has answers for everything, especially this....he made an appearance at the end of real world a couple weeks back when everyone found out that Frankie was a (as they called it) "cutter"
 
I knew a girl that did that. It is horrible when you see the scars in her arm.
Thank God she stopped. She was still young back then we were still freshmen. Most likely just a phase. Just comfort her until and try to get her to some professional help.
 
This girl obvoiusly has some sort of abandonment issues. I would guess she doesn't have a father, or perhaps her parents have been so far removed from her for her entire life that causes her to look for acceptance. However, given that the parents may be aloof, they should be contacted anyway. I doubt this girl will do anything REALLY bad to herself. Most of these types never actually commit suicide except by accident.

I agree that professional help is necessary, but probably won't do much unless she gets the acceptance she craves.
 
well from reading the original post, its obvious that not only is she hurting herself, but she is pissed that nobody is saying anything. She apparently wants people to acknowledge that they know what she is doing and maybe confort her? Seems that since nobody has said anything to her, she feels that nobody cares...

this is a she right? i just went through and read all the posts, and i forgot whether the original post said it was a girl or boy.
 
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