Hillbillies are not the only ones who do this....

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442010.stm

The risks of cousin marriage
By Justin Rowlatt
BBC Newsnight
Many people would find the idea of marrying a first cousin shocking, but such marriages are not unusual in some British communities.

It is estimated that at least 55% of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins and the tradition is also common among some other South Asian communities and in some Middle Eastern countries. But there is a problem: marrying someone who is themselves a close family member carries a risk for children - a risk that lies within the code of life; within our genes.

Communities that practice cousin marriage experience higher levels of some very rare but very serious illnesses - illnesses known as recessive genetic disorders.

Open debate

Now, one Labour MP is calling for an end to the practice. "We have to stop this tradition of first cousin marriages," Keighley MP Ann Cryer tells Newsnight.





Family events are really nice because my in-laws and his are related
Neila Butt
Mrs Cryer believes an open debate on the subject is needed because - despite the risks - cousin marriage remains very popular. Mrs Cryer's constituency is in the Bradford area, where the rates of cousin marriage are well above the national average. It is estimated that three out of four marriages within Bradford's Pakistani community are between first cousins.

The practice remains so popular because the community believes there are real benefits to marrying in the family. Many British Pakistanis celebrate cousin marriage because it is thought to generate more stable relationships.

Strong unions
Such unions are seen as strong, building as they do on already tight family networks. "You have an understanding," explains Neila Butt, who married her first cousin, Farooq, nine years ago. "Family events are really nice because my in-laws and his are related," she says.

"You have the same family history and when you talk about the old times either here or in Pakistan you know who you are talking about. It's just a nicer emotional feel."

But the statistics for recessive genetic illness in cousin marriages make sobering reading.

British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with genetic disorders than the general population - they account for just over 3% of all births but have just under a third of all British children with such illnesses.

Indeed, Birmingham Primary Care Trust estimates that one in ten of all children born to first cousins in the city either dies in infancy or goes on to develop serious disability as a result of a recessive genetic disorder.

Variant genes

Recessive genetic disorders are caused by variant genes. There are hundreds of different recessive genetic disorders, many associated with severe disability and sometimes early death, and each caused by a different variant gene.

My skin is really fragile, and can blister very easily with a slight knock or tear
Myra Ali
We all have two copies of every gene. If you inherit one variant gene you will not fall ill. If, however, a child inherits a copy of the same variant gene from each of its parents it will develop one of these illnesses.

The variant genes that cause genetic illness tend to be very rare. In the general population the likelihood of a couple having the same variant gene is a hundred to one.

In cousin marriages, if one partner has a variant gene the risk that the other has it too is far higher - more like one in eight.

Myra Ali has a very rare recessive genetic condition, known as Epidermolisis Bulosa.
Her parents were first cousins. So were her grandparents.

"My skin is really fragile, and can blister very easily with a slight knock or tear," she says.

Myra has strong views about the practice of cousin marriage as a result. "I'm against it, because there's a high risk of illness occurring", she says.

Denial
We all have to get involved in persuading people to adopt a different lifestyle
Ann Cryer MP
According to Ann Cryer MP, whose Keighley constituency has a large Pakistani population, much of the Pakistani community is in denial about the problem. She tells Newsnight that she believes it is time for an open debate on the subject: "As we address problems of smoking, drinking, obesity, we say it's a public health issue, and therefore we all have to get involved with it in persuading people to adopt a different lifestyle", she says.

"I think the same should be applied to this problem in the Asian community. They must adopt a different lifestyle. They must look outside the family for husbands and wives for their young people."


Story from BBC NEWS:
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Published: 2005/11/16 13:45:18 GMT

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Incest/Inbreeding was all the rage among royalty. The claim that someone was a "blue blood" essentially meant that their family tree was extremely narrow. Keeping it all in the family, so to speak.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']Incest/Inbreeding was all the rage among royalty. The claim that someone was a "blue blood" essentially meant that their family tree was extremely narrow. Keeping it all in the family, so to speak.[/QUOTE]

Back in those days, they had no idea about genetics and the like. Now we have advanced in our knowledge of science and it explains the dangers of inbreding.

So to sum up my thoughts: those people should know better!
 
I swear I recently read somewhere that reproducing with cousins (or even closer relations - yuck!) does not increase the rate of birth defects or deformity.

I guess this is a little different since it is concerning genetic disorders.
 
Who the hell would want to marry within their family?

With all the dysfunctional families people have, you'd want to get as far away from your fucking family as possible! :lol:
 
[quote name='lebowsky']I swear I recently read somewhere that reproducing with cousins (or even closer relations - yuck!) does not increase the rate of birth defects or deformity.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I read the first post. I remember some newspaper article within the past year claiming to debunk the "popular misconception" of first cousin marriages producing children with a greater likelihood of health problems.

Of the two articles...I'm much more inclined to believe the one in this thread. How could it not increase the odds of such occurences? If I play Russian Roulette, I want the gun to have as many @$!*&-ing chambers as possible! ...so to speak.
 
[quote name='Quillion']Are you trying to blame inbreeding for brit's bad teeth?

Cause thats all hygiene, baby.[/QUOTE]

I blame the tea.
 
Well this wouldn't ever be an issue for me, all my cousins are either male or females that resemble males. I do have a 3rd cousin that's pretty hot though.
 
I thought I remember reading awhile back that the Amish have genetic problems too since they're such a small community. Kinda hard to reach out and find someone who's not somehow related to you in some way out in Lancaster, PA, and parts of Ohio.
 
Don't dis the amish, they're everywhere.


On a side note though, they did some great things for the people of Evansville, IN when the tornadoes hit.
 
I really don't have a problem with this. Given long enough, they should breed themselves sterile. Problem solved.
 
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