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[quote name='fart_bubble']Now there is a song I have't heard in a long time but I think you mean L'Trimm
and I didn't know there is a cover of it[/quote]
Now I'm really confused. It appears that there are no less than 3 groups who have performed this song:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/We-Like-The-Cars-That-Go-Boom-lyrics-Le-Tigre/5309A7B8DA2E87634825705E000EA094
and I didn't know there is a cover of it[/quote]
Now I'm really confused. It appears that there are no less than 3 groups who have performed this song:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/We-Like-The-Cars-That-Go-Boom-lyrics-Le-Tigre/5309A7B8DA2E87634825705E000EA094
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[quote name='shieryda']Now I'm really confused. It appears that there are no less than 3 groups who have performed this song:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/We-Like-The-Cars-That-Go-Boom-lyrics-Le-Tigre/5309A7B8DA2E87634825705E000EA094 [/quote]
See, to me it has always been a L'Trimm song
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/We-Like-The-Cars-That-Go-Boom-lyrics-Le-Tigre/5309A7B8DA2E87634825705E000EA094 [/quote]
See, to me it has always been a L'Trimm song
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[quote name='fart_bubble']Frankly, I just said that because what you said makes me feel old (and I'm not old, I only turn 25 in November) but I've been listening to hip hop for as long as I could walk and when someone says something is old and I remember buying it when it came out, its a real punch in the gut.
But on the topic, to me the "Golden Age" (which is term I really hate. There is old school [76-87] and then the shit that was spawned by NWA [with of course the real hip hop intermixed with it]) its the roots from Bronx till of course when Straight Outta Compton came out which then came a period of shitty rap music [though of course this was a bunch of great underground hip hop albums released] and around 95-96 is when hip hop came back more into focus till about 2000 when the hip hop genre when bust and currently we are still in the midst of the period where hip hop is trying to get its feet back under them (which of course they have been since around 2001 when p2p started to get mass appeal). So yeah, I'm one of those nerds who considers hip hop and rap to be different genres and the periods to me are:
1st period - 76-88
2nd period - 88-95
3rd period - 95-2000
4th period 2000-2001
5th period - 2001 - till now
Sivion - Spring Of The Songbird (album)[/quote]
I wanted to bring this over to the Hip-Hop discussion thread to not clutter up the SOTM thread.
I hope your not saying that NWA is the reason for the downfall of Hip-Hop. When in fact it gave people a reason to say what they like and do what they feel. Chuck D even said that NWA was one of the reasons he felt he could say what he wanted. Now I am not saying that people didn't imiate them but that was up to the record labels that signed those groups. If you want to look at people that were damaging to Hip-Hop it would be along the lines of Vanilla Ice and those type of people.
But on the topic, to me the "Golden Age" (which is term I really hate. There is old school [76-87] and then the shit that was spawned by NWA [with of course the real hip hop intermixed with it]) its the roots from Bronx till of course when Straight Outta Compton came out which then came a period of shitty rap music [though of course this was a bunch of great underground hip hop albums released] and around 95-96 is when hip hop came back more into focus till about 2000 when the hip hop genre when bust and currently we are still in the midst of the period where hip hop is trying to get its feet back under them (which of course they have been since around 2001 when p2p started to get mass appeal). So yeah, I'm one of those nerds who considers hip hop and rap to be different genres and the periods to me are:
1st period - 76-88
2nd period - 88-95
3rd period - 95-2000
4th period 2000-2001
5th period - 2001 - till now
Sivion - Spring Of The Songbird (album)[/quote]
I wanted to bring this over to the Hip-Hop discussion thread to not clutter up the SOTM thread.
I hope your not saying that NWA is the reason for the downfall of Hip-Hop. When in fact it gave people a reason to say what they like and do what they feel. Chuck D even said that NWA was one of the reasons he felt he could say what he wanted. Now I am not saying that people didn't imiate them but that was up to the record labels that signed those groups. If you want to look at people that were damaging to Hip-Hop it would be along the lines of Vanilla Ice and those type of people.
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I really don't dig Hip-Hop that much, but I love me some Kenna (not sure if that counts) www.myspace.com/kenna
But i wanted to reccommend Zelda Beats to you doods. I know that almost all of you guys are gamers, that these guys use the old skool zelda beats with some tight lyrics. www.myspace.com/zeldabeats
Von smear has a lot of good stuff, they are my really exceptions when it comes to hip hop.
But i wanted to reccommend Zelda Beats to you doods. I know that almost all of you guys are gamers, that these guys use the old skool zelda beats with some tight lyrics. www.myspace.com/zeldabeats
Von smear has a lot of good stuff, they are my really exceptions when it comes to hip hop.
[quote name='headpiece747']I wanted to bring this over to the Hip-Hop discussion thread to not clutter up the SOTM thread.
I hope your not saying that NWA is the reason for the downfall of Hip-Hop. When in fact it gave people a reason to say what they like and do what they feel. Chuck D even said that NWA was one of the reasons he felt he could say what he wanted. Now I am not saying that people didn't imiate them but that was up to the record labels that signed those groups. If you want to look at people that were damaging to Hip-Hop it would be along the lines of Vanilla Ice and those type of people.[/quote]
I agree somewhat. Whether the members of N.W.A intended to aspire to anything more than gangsta posturing is up for debate, but it cannot be denied that the group and their music carries an important historical legacy from an artistic and social standpoint. I think anyone who denies that simply wasn't around when Compton got put on the map, or was firmly entrenched in the East Coast community.
I'm 26 myself, so I believe that fart_bubble is old enough to have at least a faint memory of when N.W.A exploded onto the scene, and should know better than to impugn N.W.A's stature. I can't speak for him, but what I think he may have been insinuating --and what I'll opine now-- is that N.W.A's success broke the walls down and emboldened a flood of copycats who had no business whatsoever making music. Most of these newcomers were simply hustlers trying to make a quick buck, and had no real love for music and hip-hop. These artists ostensibly spouted the same angry vitriol, the same misogyny, the same cop-killing, the same drug love, but what was once a watershed moment of horrifying lucidity for hip-hop brought forth by five Comptonites became diluted and then perverted into a celebration and glorification of everything that was wrong with the ghetto and the black American life.
As much as I'll always love N.W.A, I believe they are culpable. The trend they started led the industry and culture down a path that I hope we never find ourselves treading again. At least pop-rap never degenerated to the point of actually ending people's lives (unless there's a strange story that someone would like to tell me).
I hope your not saying that NWA is the reason for the downfall of Hip-Hop. When in fact it gave people a reason to say what they like and do what they feel. Chuck D even said that NWA was one of the reasons he felt he could say what he wanted. Now I am not saying that people didn't imiate them but that was up to the record labels that signed those groups. If you want to look at people that were damaging to Hip-Hop it would be along the lines of Vanilla Ice and those type of people.[/quote]
I agree somewhat. Whether the members of N.W.A intended to aspire to anything more than gangsta posturing is up for debate, but it cannot be denied that the group and their music carries an important historical legacy from an artistic and social standpoint. I think anyone who denies that simply wasn't around when Compton got put on the map, or was firmly entrenched in the East Coast community.
I'm 26 myself, so I believe that fart_bubble is old enough to have at least a faint memory of when N.W.A exploded onto the scene, and should know better than to impugn N.W.A's stature. I can't speak for him, but what I think he may have been insinuating --and what I'll opine now-- is that N.W.A's success broke the walls down and emboldened a flood of copycats who had no business whatsoever making music. Most of these newcomers were simply hustlers trying to make a quick buck, and had no real love for music and hip-hop. These artists ostensibly spouted the same angry vitriol, the same misogyny, the same cop-killing, the same drug love, but what was once a watershed moment of horrifying lucidity for hip-hop brought forth by five Comptonites became diluted and then perverted into a celebration and glorification of everything that was wrong with the ghetto and the black American life.
As much as I'll always love N.W.A, I believe they are culpable. The trend they started led the industry and culture down a path that I hope we never find ourselves treading again. At least pop-rap never degenerated to the point of actually ending people's lives (unless there's a strange story that someone would like to tell me).
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[quote name='rapsodist']I agree somewhat. Whether the members of N.W.A intended to aspire to anything more than gangsta posturing is up for debate, but it cannot be denied that the group and their music carries an important historical legacy from an artistic and social standpoint. I think anyone who denies that simply wasn't around when Compton got put on the map, or was firmly entrenched in the East Coast community.
I'm 26 myself, so I believe that fart_bubble is old enough to have at least a faint memory of when N.W.A exploded onto the scene, and should know better than to impugn N.W.A's stature. I can't speak for him, but what I think he may have been insinuating --and what I'll opine now-- is that N.W.A's success broke the walls down and emboldened a flood of copycats who had no business whatsoever making music. Most of these newcomers were simply hustlers trying to make a quick buck, and had no real love for music and hip-hop. These artists ostensibly spouted the same angry vitriol, the same misogyny, the same cop-killing, the same drug love, but what was once a watershed moment of horrifying lucidity for hip-hop brought forth by five Comptonites became diluted and then perverted into a celebration and glorification of everything that was wrong with the ghetto and the black American life.
As much as I'll always love N.W.A, I believe they are culpable. The trend they started led the industry and culture down a path that I hope we never find ourselves treading again. At least pop-rap never degenerated to the point of actually ending people's lives (unless there's a strange story that someone would like to tell me).[/quote]
Thats about what I meant. Though I do have to admit that I was more about East Coast as beyond a few people, they held up to the old school/true school (what ever you want to call it) sensibilities which is what I have always been into. I mean really, I'm a white kid from the burbs so the gangster/pimp shit never really "touched" me. And what NWA gave birth to frankly still disgusts me as to me it perverted the genre (before anyone says anything, yes "The Message" really started it but that and NWA to me are worlds apart) which is how I started down the path of a being a digger. And to me, it wasn't till about the mid 90's when the seeds was planted for the genre to get back on track.
I'm 26 myself, so I believe that fart_bubble is old enough to have at least a faint memory of when N.W.A exploded onto the scene, and should know better than to impugn N.W.A's stature. I can't speak for him, but what I think he may have been insinuating --and what I'll opine now-- is that N.W.A's success broke the walls down and emboldened a flood of copycats who had no business whatsoever making music. Most of these newcomers were simply hustlers trying to make a quick buck, and had no real love for music and hip-hop. These artists ostensibly spouted the same angry vitriol, the same misogyny, the same cop-killing, the same drug love, but what was once a watershed moment of horrifying lucidity for hip-hop brought forth by five Comptonites became diluted and then perverted into a celebration and glorification of everything that was wrong with the ghetto and the black American life.
As much as I'll always love N.W.A, I believe they are culpable. The trend they started led the industry and culture down a path that I hope we never find ourselves treading again. At least pop-rap never degenerated to the point of actually ending people's lives (unless there's a strange story that someone would like to tell me).[/quote]
Thats about what I meant. Though I do have to admit that I was more about East Coast as beyond a few people, they held up to the old school/true school (what ever you want to call it) sensibilities which is what I have always been into. I mean really, I'm a white kid from the burbs so the gangster/pimp shit never really "touched" me. And what NWA gave birth to frankly still disgusts me as to me it perverted the genre (before anyone says anything, yes "The Message" really started it but that and NWA to me are worlds apart) which is how I started down the path of a being a digger. And to me, it wasn't till about the mid 90's when the seeds was planted for the genre to get back on track.
[quote name='fart_bubble']Thats about what I meant. Though I do have to admit that I was more about East Coast as beyond a few people, they held up to the old school/true school (what ever you want to call it) sensibilities which is what I have always been into. I mean really, I'm a white kid from the burbs so the gangster/pimp shit never really "touched" me. And what NWA gave birth to frankly still disgusts me as to me it perverted the genre (before anyone says anything, yes "The Message" really started it but that and NWA to me are worlds apart) which is how I started down the path of a being a digger. And to me, it wasn't till about the mid 90's when the seeds was planted for the genre to get back on track.[/quote]
I understand what you mean. N.W.A's very existence should have been a wake-up call to the nation. What they represented was a hip-hop state of the union address, voicing and reflecting the anger and frustration of the ghetto. The time for party anthems was over; hip-hop had always been a voice for the people, and right now the people were mad as hell. It was one of the first moments at which we realized that rap music could serve a higher purpose (and did so, as Public Enemy so powerfully demonstrated). But what should have been a galvanizing force for positive change instead inspired the birth and proliferation of gangsta rap, sending the genre into a descent of sensationalized, mindless product whose only value lay in shock factor.
I'll openly admit that as a teenager in the '90s I bought into the Death Row Records brand of gangsta rap. I used to be gang-connected, and that type of music spoke to me. It did indeed voice my anger and frustration, but what I realize now is that it didn't do anything to actually effect change either. It wasn't until 2Pac died that something inside of me began to see that my heroes and their lifestyles I emulated led only to destruction, not only
of the body but of the soul.
It's been a long time since then, and in the ensuing years I've cleaned up my life and rediscovered my love for hip-hop through artists like Black Star, Common, and Jurassic 5, all of whom, funnily enough, represent an entirely opposite side of the spectrum from what I used to listen to.
I understand what you mean. N.W.A's very existence should have been a wake-up call to the nation. What they represented was a hip-hop state of the union address, voicing and reflecting the anger and frustration of the ghetto. The time for party anthems was over; hip-hop had always been a voice for the people, and right now the people were mad as hell. It was one of the first moments at which we realized that rap music could serve a higher purpose (and did so, as Public Enemy so powerfully demonstrated). But what should have been a galvanizing force for positive change instead inspired the birth and proliferation of gangsta rap, sending the genre into a descent of sensationalized, mindless product whose only value lay in shock factor.
I'll openly admit that as a teenager in the '90s I bought into the Death Row Records brand of gangsta rap. I used to be gang-connected, and that type of music spoke to me. It did indeed voice my anger and frustration, but what I realize now is that it didn't do anything to actually effect change either. It wasn't until 2Pac died that something inside of me began to see that my heroes and their lifestyles I emulated led only to destruction, not only
of the body but of the soul.
It's been a long time since then, and in the ensuing years I've cleaned up my life and rediscovered my love for hip-hop through artists like Black Star, Common, and Jurassic 5, all of whom, funnily enough, represent an entirely opposite side of the spectrum from what I used to listen to.
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[quote name='rapsodist']I understand what you mean. N.W.A's very existence should have been a wake-up call to the nation. What they represented was a hip-hop state of the union address, voicing and reflecting the anger and frustration of the ghetto. The time for party anthems was over; hip-hop had always been a voice for the people, and right now the people were mad as hell. It was one of the first moments at which we realized that rap music could serve a higher purpose (and did so, as Public Enemy so powerfully demonstrated). But what should have been a galvanizing force for positive change instead inspired the birth and proliferation of gangsta rap, sending the genre into a descent of sensationalized, mindless product whose only value lay in shock factor.
I'll openly admit that as a teenager in the '90s I bought into the Death Row Records brand of gangsta rap. I used to be gang-connected, and that type of music spoke to me. It did indeed voice my anger and frustration, but what I realize now is that it didn't do anything to actually effect change either. It wasn't until 2Pac died that something inside of me began to see that my heroes and their lifestyles I emulated led only to destruction, not only
of the body but of the soul.
It's been a long time since then, and in the ensuing years I've cleaned up my life and rediscovered my love for hip-hop through artists like Black Star, Common, and Jurassic 5, all of whom, funnily enough, represent an entirely opposite side of the spectrum from what I used to listen to.[/quote]
I grew up in South Central as a kid then moved to Bakersfield through High School and Long Beach for College then back to South Central Los Angeles. So I saw what they were talking about and was getting treated the way they were. So I could relate but never got into the gang or drug culture but lots of family or friends were in it one way or another. I just chose to go another way and didn't let people or music influence me. It was pitiful when I had no one to talk to about say Nas Illmatic with but when I brought up Ice Cube Predator or similar artists which I did bump back then and still do we could relate. Most people would not give anything a chance and I think they missed alot of music and still do.
I'll openly admit that as a teenager in the '90s I bought into the Death Row Records brand of gangsta rap. I used to be gang-connected, and that type of music spoke to me. It did indeed voice my anger and frustration, but what I realize now is that it didn't do anything to actually effect change either. It wasn't until 2Pac died that something inside of me began to see that my heroes and their lifestyles I emulated led only to destruction, not only
of the body but of the soul.
It's been a long time since then, and in the ensuing years I've cleaned up my life and rediscovered my love for hip-hop through artists like Black Star, Common, and Jurassic 5, all of whom, funnily enough, represent an entirely opposite side of the spectrum from what I used to listen to.[/quote]
I grew up in South Central as a kid then moved to Bakersfield through High School and Long Beach for College then back to South Central Los Angeles. So I saw what they were talking about and was getting treated the way they were. So I could relate but never got into the gang or drug culture but lots of family or friends were in it one way or another. I just chose to go another way and didn't let people or music influence me. It was pitiful when I had no one to talk to about say Nas Illmatic with but when I brought up Ice Cube Predator or similar artists which I did bump back then and still do we could relate. Most people would not give anything a chance and I think they missed alot of music and still do.
hip-hop is like a good relationship. You will always have your good and bad times with it. Likewise, there will be things you like and dislike about it.
I grew up in a hick town in souther cali, and I was the only dood into rap. Everyone was into rock except me, but the rap music that people did indeed like were the stuff they played on MTV. Back then I also had BET and noticed that the variety on rap city was only 1000x that of MTV's, so I always watched that and got made fun of at school becoz I told kids I liked "wu tang" and "redman." That's why I was never into the more popular artists back in the days like Pac & Big, nor much into the west coast stuff they played on the radio (back when west coast radio actually played songs from the west coast, lol).
These days going back, I have a lot of respect for the stuff I slept on, especially Death Row and Westside Connection and DJ Quik songs. But regardless I am glad I always chose to listen to different stuff becoz I put so much effort into differentiating my tastes from everybody else's. If it werent for that I would not have so much appreciation of the culture as a whole, and would have probably forgotten about rap jus like so many people I grew up with have. Understand I was like 10-13 years old when I was doing this, 94-98 type era.
so I aint old enough to remember days of Run DMC, NWA, or Public Enemy when they were the hot shyt, but I definiately go back and pay my dues. So you can never really hate anything that happens in hip-hop's history becoz it totally influences everything else that goes on with it.
NWA is violent, yes?? But they opened the gates for other acts to come out similar. Without NWA, there would not be any Onyx, no Bone Thugs, no Snoop, etc. These more violent cats makin records looked up to NWA and decided to rap also! Then all these newer emcees will look up to Bone, Snoop, etc and will follow suit.
Likewise you have like Vanilla Ice come out. Next thing you know, 3rd Bass is releasing pop goes the weasel. Early 90s had record companies signing artists like mad! Hiero, Boot Camp, all these cats get deals only to get dropped eventually. Thus the underground / indie movement begins and now there are so many new cats joining the game just becoz it's become more accessible to them.
then it's like, a lot of these cats suck, so now dope undergroud rappers can rap about how much wack underground rapper suck in addition to hating on a lot of the more popular lack of talent talent on record labels.
I feel like I'm just typing random shyt rite now, so I'll stop there, but I hope some of it comes off as coherent. Still, it's not just hip-hop in itself that goes thru ups and downs, our relationship with it too and that's what makes it so great.
I grew up in a hick town in souther cali, and I was the only dood into rap. Everyone was into rock except me, but the rap music that people did indeed like were the stuff they played on MTV. Back then I also had BET and noticed that the variety on rap city was only 1000x that of MTV's, so I always watched that and got made fun of at school becoz I told kids I liked "wu tang" and "redman." That's why I was never into the more popular artists back in the days like Pac & Big, nor much into the west coast stuff they played on the radio (back when west coast radio actually played songs from the west coast, lol).
These days going back, I have a lot of respect for the stuff I slept on, especially Death Row and Westside Connection and DJ Quik songs. But regardless I am glad I always chose to listen to different stuff becoz I put so much effort into differentiating my tastes from everybody else's. If it werent for that I would not have so much appreciation of the culture as a whole, and would have probably forgotten about rap jus like so many people I grew up with have. Understand I was like 10-13 years old when I was doing this, 94-98 type era.
so I aint old enough to remember days of Run DMC, NWA, or Public Enemy when they were the hot shyt, but I definiately go back and pay my dues. So you can never really hate anything that happens in hip-hop's history becoz it totally influences everything else that goes on with it.
NWA is violent, yes?? But they opened the gates for other acts to come out similar. Without NWA, there would not be any Onyx, no Bone Thugs, no Snoop, etc. These more violent cats makin records looked up to NWA and decided to rap also! Then all these newer emcees will look up to Bone, Snoop, etc and will follow suit.
Likewise you have like Vanilla Ice come out. Next thing you know, 3rd Bass is releasing pop goes the weasel. Early 90s had record companies signing artists like mad! Hiero, Boot Camp, all these cats get deals only to get dropped eventually. Thus the underground / indie movement begins and now there are so many new cats joining the game just becoz it's become more accessible to them.
then it's like, a lot of these cats suck, so now dope undergroud rappers can rap about how much wack underground rapper suck in addition to hating on a lot of the more popular lack of talent talent on record labels.
I feel like I'm just typing random shyt rite now, so I'll stop there, but I hope some of it comes off as coherent. Still, it's not just hip-hop in itself that goes thru ups and downs, our relationship with it too and that's what makes it so great.
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Like I said, I just could never get into the thug/gangster/pimp shit and to me is a pot mark on Hip Hop.
Anyone else into Jazzy Hop and/or the newer stuff coming out of Japan?
Anyone else into Jazzy Hop and/or the newer stuff coming out of Japan?
[quote name='fart_bubble']Like I said, I just could never get into the thug/gangster/pimp shit and to me is a pot mark on Hip Hop.
Anyone else into Jazzy Hop and/or the newer stuff coming out of Japan?[/quote]
CL Smooth does some Jazzy hip-hop I believe. I listened to his albums on e-music and some tracks have the whole Jazz thing going, not to mention the "Best of" album with him and Pete Rock, that's a classic CD compilation right there
I actually listen to "Take you there" more than "T.R.O.Y."
The Roots can get down with the funk as well
Anyone else into Jazzy Hop and/or the newer stuff coming out of Japan?[/quote]
CL Smooth does some Jazzy hip-hop I believe. I listened to his albums on e-music and some tracks have the whole Jazz thing going, not to mention the "Best of" album with him and Pete Rock, that's a classic CD compilation right there
I actually listen to "Take you there" more than "T.R.O.Y."
The Roots can get down with the funk as well
[quote name='fart_bubble']Like I said, I just could never get into the thug/gangster/pimp shit and to me is a pot mark on Hip Hop.
Anyone else into Jazzy Hop and/or the newer stuff coming out of Japan?[/quote]
I noticed from headpiece747's quote of your SOTM post that you copped Sivion's album. I talked about him and his DeepSpace5 crew earlier in this thread. What'd you think of his music?
I interviewed him a couple years back, and he was one of the coolest people in the industry I ever had the pleasure to meet. He's actually had formal jazz music education, and he was going to become a professional saxophonist but hip-hop managed to snatch him away from that. The cat knows his stuff when it comes to jazz; he's an awesome conversationalist if you should ever meet him.
Anyone else into Jazzy Hop and/or the newer stuff coming out of Japan?[/quote]
I noticed from headpiece747's quote of your SOTM post that you copped Sivion's album. I talked about him and his DeepSpace5 crew earlier in this thread. What'd you think of his music?
I interviewed him a couple years back, and he was one of the coolest people in the industry I ever had the pleasure to meet. He's actually had formal jazz music education, and he was going to become a professional saxophonist but hip-hop managed to snatch him away from that. The cat knows his stuff when it comes to jazz; he's an awesome conversationalist if you should ever meet him.
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[quote name='rapsodist']I noticed from headpiece747's quote of your SOTM post that you copped Sivion's album. I talked about him and his DeepSpace5 crew earlier in this thread. What'd you think of his music?
I interviewed him a couple years back, and he was one of the coolest people in the industry I ever had the pleasure to meet. He's actually had formal jazz music education, and he was going to become a professional saxophonist but hip-hop managed to snatch him away from that. The cat knows his stuff when it comes to jazz; he's an awesome conversationalist if you should ever meet him.[/quote]
I really like DeepSpace5 but I've just started to pick up the solo work the past few months. I have a problem where I dig too much that some shit tends to slip my mind. As for Spring Of The Songbbird, I really loved it and think it was better than Mood Enhancement. The song Live It Up is what got me to buy Theory Hazit's debut album (which is
ing great). Top notch album. Didn't know he was going to be a saxophonist, though I could tell he was into jazz by the way most of the beats are.
I interviewed him a couple years back, and he was one of the coolest people in the industry I ever had the pleasure to meet. He's actually had formal jazz music education, and he was going to become a professional saxophonist but hip-hop managed to snatch him away from that. The cat knows his stuff when it comes to jazz; he's an awesome conversationalist if you should ever meet him.[/quote]
I really like DeepSpace5 but I've just started to pick up the solo work the past few months. I have a problem where I dig too much that some shit tends to slip my mind. As for Spring Of The Songbbird, I really loved it and think it was better than Mood Enhancement. The song Live It Up is what got me to buy Theory Hazit's debut album (which is
ing great). Top notch album. Didn't know he was going to be a saxophonist, though I could tell he was into jazz by the way most of the beats are.
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C.R.E.A.M. Remix by Willie Evans Jr. from Asamov aka The Alias Brothers (ABs)
C.R.E.A.M. Remix by Willie Evans Jr. from Asamov aka The Alias Brothers (ABs)
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[quote name='JEKKI']BAPTIZED IN THA FUNK~!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgUKNWc4xhU
another one of my all time favorite songs, I dont think top5 tho...
make sure to watch it before youtube removes it again![/quote]
Your post of that Da Brat video made me remember how much I use to hate female rappers. I just hated their girly voice trying to spit lyrics and people would defend them and I would call them, FEMALES! for liking Lil' Kim or the similar artists. That changed after I gave them a chance like Bahamadia and Jean Grae opened my eyes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgUKNWc4xhU
another one of my all time favorite songs, I dont think top5 tho...
make sure to watch it before youtube removes it again![/quote]
Your post of that Da Brat video made me remember how much I use to hate female rappers. I just hated their girly voice trying to spit lyrics and people would defend them and I would call them, FEMALES! for liking Lil' Kim or the similar artists. That changed after I gave them a chance like Bahamadia and Jean Grae opened my eyes.
u serious?!?!! how can u listen to more classic era femcees like MC Lyte and Nonchalant and not like them tho? They were around during Bahamadia's time.
then of course while Lil Kim and Foxy Brown are off being horrible (altho I do like some of their songs), you had Lady of Rage and Rah Digga spitting heat!!
then of course we got Lauryn Hill, nothing more to say about that.
Still tho, Funkdafied + Anuthatantrum make Da Brat my all time favorite femcee, but after those first 2 records it was all over
then of course while Lil Kim and Foxy Brown are off being horrible (altho I do like some of their songs), you had Lady of Rage and Rah Digga spitting heat!!
then of course we got Lauryn Hill, nothing more to say about that.
Still tho, Funkdafied + Anuthatantrum make Da Brat my all time favorite femcee, but after those first 2 records it was all over
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That was my younger days when I thought that I knew everything about Hip-Hop and everyone else was wrong. Now that I have gotten older I have given more artists a chance that I normally wouldn't. Sometimes it backfires but sometimes I find stuff I like.
Lady of Rage definitely made me eat my words back then:
[MEDIA]http://youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2bJvZp4hE[/MEDIA]
Lady of Rage definitely made me eat my words back then:
[MEDIA]http://youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2bJvZp4hE[/MEDIA]
oh wow... and I mean WOW.
hip-hop is dead at itsin finest rite here:
http://allhiphop.com/forums/thread/18250973.aspx
some ppl should have never been given a mic, damn.
to ease any bad feelings that interview will cause, new One Be Lo songs:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2446628c36324f/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/244660622de734/
hip-hop is dead at its
in finest rite here:http://allhiphop.com/forums/thread/18250973.aspx
some ppl should have never been given a mic, damn.
to ease any bad feelings that interview will cause, new One Be Lo songs:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2446628c36324f/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/244660622de734/
[quote name='JEKKI']oh wow... and I mean WOW.
hip-hop is dead at itsin finest rite here:
http://allhiphop.com/forums/thread/18250973.aspx
some ppl should have never been given a mic, damn.
to ease any bad feelings that interview will cause, new One Be Lo songs:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2446628c36324f/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/244660622de734/[/quote]
I founds some of the comments these people left about that article/post interesting, I would say more but I think these comments cover my thoughts just fine:
hip-hop is dead at its
in finest rite here:http://allhiphop.com/forums/thread/18250973.aspx
some ppl should have never been given a mic, damn.
to ease any bad feelings that interview will cause, new One Be Lo songs:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2446628c36324f/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/244660622de734/[/quote]
I founds some of the comments these people left about that article/post interesting, I would say more but I think these comments cover my thoughts just fine:
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[quote name='JEKKI']oh wow... and I mean WOW.
hip-hop is dead at itsin finest rite here:
http://allhiphop.com/forums/thread/18250973.aspx
some ppl should have never been given a mic, damn.
to ease any bad feelings that interview will cause, new One Be Lo songs:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2446628c36324f/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/244660622de734/[/quote]
Wow. Lame.
hip-hop is dead at its
in finest rite here:http://allhiphop.com/forums/thread/18250973.aspx
some ppl should have never been given a mic, damn.
to ease any bad feelings that interview will cause, new One Be Lo songs:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2446628c36324f/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/244660622de734/[/quote]
Wow. Lame.
Fiddy cares about sales, what's new? He'll only do and say whatever helps to bring in more money. Even this is probably just a ploy to do that.
At the end of the day, you gotta look around and recognize the truth. People literally buy into this stuff. Maybe we here in this thread don't, but millions upon millions of people do. Junk like this is killing hip-hop, but it's only able to do it 'cause the community as a whole is embracing it.
Just do what you can in the face of it all. Support your peoples. Buy an album at the record store and not at the swap meet out the back of some dude's SUV, go to a concert and grab a few drinks to let'em know these fans show love, put up posters on the corner if you can, spread the word. Change the game.
True story, I was just listening to Binary's Masters of the Universe today and thinking to myself that I need to hear some new OneManArmy. "The Ghetto" is still one of my regular rotation joints to this day. Thanks for the links, JEKKI!
At the end of the day, you gotta look around and recognize the truth. People literally buy into this stuff. Maybe we here in this thread don't, but millions upon millions of people do. Junk like this is killing hip-hop, but it's only able to do it 'cause the community as a whole is embracing it.
Just do what you can in the face of it all. Support your peoples. Buy an album at the record store and not at the swap meet out the back of some dude's SUV, go to a concert and grab a few drinks to let'em know these fans show love, put up posters on the corner if you can, spread the word. Change the game.
True story, I was just listening to Binary's Masters of the Universe today and thinking to myself that I need to hear some new OneManArmy. "The Ghetto" is still one of my regular rotation joints to this day. Thanks for the links, JEKKI!
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[quote name='rapsodist']Fiddy cares about sales, what's new? He'll only do and say whatever helps to bring in more money. Even this is probably just a ploy to do that.
At the end of the day, you gotta look around and recognize the truth. People literally buy into this stuff. Maybe we here in this thread don't, but millions upon millions of people do. Junk like this is killing hip-hop, but it's only able to do it 'cause the community as a whole is embracing it.
Just do what you can in the face of it all. Support your peoples. Buy an album at the record store and not at the swap meet out the back of some dude's SUV, go to a concert and grab a few drinks to let'em know these fans show love, put up posters on the corner if you can, spread the word. Change the game.
True story, I was just listening to Binary's Masters of the Universe today and thinking to myself that I need to hear some new OneManArmy. "The Ghetto" is still one of my regular rotation joints to this day. Thanks for the links, JEKKI![/quote]
If I could show my love at shows by buying drinks I would, but I'm restricted to buying only shirts and cds.
At the end of the day, you gotta look around and recognize the truth. People literally buy into this stuff. Maybe we here in this thread don't, but millions upon millions of people do. Junk like this is killing hip-hop, but it's only able to do it 'cause the community as a whole is embracing it.
Just do what you can in the face of it all. Support your peoples. Buy an album at the record store and not at the swap meet out the back of some dude's SUV, go to a concert and grab a few drinks to let'em know these fans show love, put up posters on the corner if you can, spread the word. Change the game.
True story, I was just listening to Binary's Masters of the Universe today and thinking to myself that I need to hear some new OneManArmy. "The Ghetto" is still one of my regular rotation joints to this day. Thanks for the links, JEKKI![/quote]
If I could show my love at shows by buying drinks I would, but I'm restricted to buying only shirts and cds.
[quote name='2poor']If I could show my love at shows by buying drinks I would, but I'm restricted to buying only shirts and cds.[/quote]
Haha, it's all good, man. Support however you can, even if it's in ways that don't involve spending your money. We're all cheapasses here anyway.
I was just pointing out the drink sales 'cause that's a big part of how venues decide to invite/accept people back for more shows.
Haha, it's all good, man. Support however you can, even if it's in ways that don't involve spending your money. We're all cheapasses here anyway.
I was just pointing out the drink sales 'cause that's a big part of how venues decide to invite/accept people back for more shows.
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I like how he equates good music to record sales.
[quote name='rapsodist']
Just do what you can in the face of it all. Support your peoples. Buy an album at the record store and not at the swap meet out the back of some dude's SUV, go to a concert and grab a few drinks to let'em know these fans show love, put up posters on the corner if you can, spread the word. Change the game.
[/quote]
Oh so true, the two groups that I had the most fun talking to is All Natural (didn't buy them drinks as its their hometown so everyone else bought the drinks but they were always stoked to have fans come up to them and show them love. Capital D was always fun to talk to) and Sol.illaquists Of Sound wasing awesome to talk to earlier this year (they were on the road for a few weeks before their stop at Abby's but you could never tell it as they were just happy for people to show up and just all around cool talking to. I've never met a group as happy as them when signing autographs. Grey Matter [the opening act] was too bummed when I asked them if they had anything to sell and the promo album sold out a few stops earlier. It was kinda sad though, they just sat at the stage afterwards with no one coming up to them but their eyes lit up when I went up to them).
[quote name='rapsodist']
Just do what you can in the face of it all. Support your peoples. Buy an album at the record store and not at the swap meet out the back of some dude's SUV, go to a concert and grab a few drinks to let'em know these fans show love, put up posters on the corner if you can, spread the word. Change the game.
[/quote]
Oh so true, the two groups that I had the most fun talking to is All Natural (didn't buy them drinks as its their hometown so everyone else bought the drinks but they were always stoked to have fans come up to them and show them love. Capital D was always fun to talk to) and Sol.illaquists Of Sound was
ing awesome to talk to earlier this year (they were on the road for a few weeks before their stop at Abby's but you could never tell it as they were just happy for people to show up and just all around cool talking to. I've never met a group as happy as them when signing autographs. Grey Matter [the opening act] was too bummed when I asked them if they had anything to sell and the promo album sold out a few stops earlier. It was kinda sad though, they just sat at the stage afterwards with no one coming up to them but their eyes lit up when I went up to them).
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[quote name='rapsodist']I still can't believe G-Unit would spark something with Ghost. The Wu run with more soldiers than probably all the real Wus and Tangs in China.[/quote]
Didn't they try to do the whole beef thing with Wu-Tang before? And then some guys associated with Wu-Tang came out with that diss song "Who the is 50 cent?"
Didn't they try to do the whole beef thing with Wu-Tang before? And then some guys associated with Wu-Tang came out with that diss song "Who the
is 50 cent?"[quote name='fart_bubble']Oh so true, the two groups that I had the most fun talking to is All Natural (didn't buy them drinks as its their hometown so everyone else bought the drinks but they were always stoked to have fans come up to them and show them love. Capital D was always fun to talk to) and Sol.illaquists Of Sound was ing awesome to talk to earlier this year (they were on the road for a few weeks before their stop at Abby's but you could never tell it as they were just happy for people to show up and just all around cool talking to. I've never met a group as happy as them when signing autographs. Grey Matter [the opening act] was too bummed when I asked them if they had anything to sell and the promo album sold out a few stops earlier. It was kinda sad though, they just sat at the stage afterwards with no one coming up to them but their eyes lit up when I went up to them).[/quote]
That's the truth, man. All the artists I can call friends tell me there's nothing like those fans who supported when they were just brokeass burgerflippers trying to get heard. All artists survive and thrive on the appreciation of their art by others. Just that one fan who comes up afterward and asks when the (next) album is coming out can motivate an artist to shift into top gear and get it done right and on time.
I remember meeting Lightheaded (Braille, Othello, Ohmega Watts) way back in the day when there were about 10 people at their shows. I bumped into one of the guys again recently and he still remembered me for standing up in the front that night years ago and showing love.
ing awesome to talk to earlier this year (they were on the road for a few weeks before their stop at Abby's but you could never tell it as they were just happy for people to show up and just all around cool talking to. I've never met a group as happy as them when signing autographs. Grey Matter [the opening act] was too bummed when I asked them if they had anything to sell and the promo album sold out a few stops earlier. It was kinda sad though, they just sat at the stage afterwards with no one coming up to them but their eyes lit up when I went up to them).[/quote] That's the truth, man. All the artists I can call friends tell me there's nothing like those fans who supported when they were just brokeass burgerflippers trying to get heard. All artists survive and thrive on the appreciation of their art by others. Just that one fan who comes up afterward and asks when the (next) album is coming out can motivate an artist to shift into top gear and get it done right and on time.
I remember meeting Lightheaded (Braille, Othello, Ohmega Watts) way back in the day when there were about 10 people at their shows. I bumped into one of the guys again recently and he still remembered me for standing up in the front that night years ago and showing love.
[quote name='2poor']Didn't they try to do the whole beef thing with Wu-Tang before? And then some guys associated with Wu-Tang came out with that diss song "Who the is 50 cent?"[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. This ain't the first time. I remember Yayo's crew said they robbed Ghost before, as though that's something to brag about. I should say "I can't believe G-Unit would spark something with Ghost AGAIN." Somebody's about to get pushed down the stairs AGAIN.
is 50 cent?"[/quote] Yeah, you're right. This ain't the first time. I remember Yayo's crew said they robbed Ghost before, as though that's something to brag about. I should say "I can't believe G-Unit would spark something with Ghost AGAIN." Somebody's about to get pushed down the stairs AGAIN.
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I'm glad someone brought up that interview in this thread. I read it last night, too, and couldn't understand how 50, Yayo and their cronies could be that ing stupid.
Honestly, I could go on and on about how ridiculous that interview was, but I think everyone here has covered it.
Ghostface Killah>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>50 and Yayo.
Edit: I wish I could add more ">" signs.
ing stupid. Honestly, I could go on and on about how ridiculous that interview was, but I think everyone here has covered it.
Ghostface Killah>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>50 and Yayo.
Edit: I wish I could add more ">" signs.
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[quote name='rapsodist']That's the truth, man. All the artists I can call friends tell me there's nothing like those fans who supported when they were just brokeass burgerflippers trying to get heard. All artists survive and thrive on the appreciation of their art by others. Just that one fan who comes up afterward and asks when the (next) album is coming out can motivate an artist to shift into top gear and get it done right and on time.
I remember meeting Lightheaded (Braille, Othello, Ohmega Watts) way back in the day when there were about 10 people at their shows. I bumped into one of the guys again recently and he still remembered me for standing up in the front that night years ago and showing love.[/quote]
Yeah, you have no idea on how stoked I am to see D, Thaione Davis and Meaty Ogre finally getting the props that they deserve.
I'm still waiting for J. Davis Trio to finally break out. Though them breaking out would probably mean that I wouldn't be able to see them as many times that I do (and if you ever get to see them, do it as it will be one of the best concerts you will ever go to), they really need to be heard as its a shame that they are the only ones left (beyond a few people in the All Natural crew) in Chicago that really deserve reconition.
And if anyone gets to see Grey Matter (they are out of Orlando, same as Sol.illiquists of Sound), thats another group that I really think will blow up and they really know how to put on a show.
I remember meeting Lightheaded (Braille, Othello, Ohmega Watts) way back in the day when there were about 10 people at their shows. I bumped into one of the guys again recently and he still remembered me for standing up in the front that night years ago and showing love.[/quote]
Yeah, you have no idea on how stoked I am to see D, Thaione Davis and Meaty Ogre finally getting the props that they deserve.
I'm still waiting for J. Davis Trio to finally break out. Though them breaking out would probably mean that I wouldn't be able to see them as many times that I do (and if you ever get to see them, do it as it will be one of the best concerts you will ever go to), they really need to be heard as its a shame that they are the only ones left (beyond a few people in the All Natural crew) in Chicago that really deserve reconition.
And if anyone gets to see Grey Matter (they are out of Orlando, same as Sol.illiquists of Sound), thats another group that I really think will blow up and they really know how to put on a show.
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Though it doesn't look like its going to be save, I really wish the goverment would get its head out of its ass and fix the internet radio rates. You have no idea on how badly I want to launch my station (shit, I've had my first week playlist done for a month and a half).
Though it doesn't look like its going to be save, I really wish the goverment would get its head out of its ass and fix the internet radio rates. You have no idea on how badly I want to launch my station (shit, I've had my first week playlist done for a month and a half).
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I personally would love to see Panacea blow up, but I don't see it happening. Maybe 15 years ago.
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[quote name='senorwoohoo']I personally would love to see Panacea blow up, but I don't see it happening. Maybe 15 years ago.[/quote]
When you factor in the underground aspect, they are blowing up being signed by Rawkus (even with them being nutered since the re-launch).
When you factor in the underground aspect, they are blowing up being signed by Rawkus (even with them being nutered since the re-launch).
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[quote name='fart_bubble']When you factor in the underground aspect, they are blowing up being signed by Rawkus (even with them being nutered since the re-launch).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know, but you know what I mean.
Yeah, I know, but you know what I mean.
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[quote name='senorwoohoo']Yeah, I know, but you know what I mean.[/quote]
I know but IMO, give it another 3-4 years and backpackers and underground will be mainstream. People are getting sick of rap and really, there isn't any other style of hip hop that is out there. I call it now, in 5 years backpackers and the "underground" wil be the mainstream
I know but IMO, give it another 3-4 years and backpackers and underground will be mainstream. People are getting sick of rap and really, there isn't any other style of hip hop that is out there. I call it now, in 5 years backpackers and the "underground" wil be the mainstream
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[quote name='fart_bubble']I know but IMO, give it another 3-4 years and backpackers and underground will be mainstream. People are getting sick of rap and really, there isn't any other style of hip hop that is out there. I call it now, in 5 years backpackers and the "underground" wil be the mainstream[/QUOTE]
I completely agree. I personally don't know how it couldn't happen. The art has been stripped of everything it stands for and it's bound for a comeback.
I completely agree. I personally don't know how it couldn't happen. The art has been stripped of everything it stands for and it's bound for a comeback.
I hate to be the dissenting voice here, but I honestly feel that the underground will always remain so. We had a mini-renaissance for a while with the Rawkus era and the Soulquarians/Okayplayer collective that looked like it'd really change things for good, but that kind of petered out and people were back to the same old. Even among critics and non-mainstream fans it seems that of late "backpacker" music has fallen out of favor. I can't believe how many best-of-2006 lists I saw that omitted artists like Panacea in favor of thug rappers.
But back to more positive things. I did a thread search on a few artists and didn't come up with any results. So I gotta ask...
Anyone here a fan of the Eulorhythmics? http://www.myspace.com/eulorhythmics
How about Giant Panda? http://www.myspace.com/giantpanda
I know somebody here has to be a fan of the Cunninlynguists! http://www.myspace.com/cunninlynguists
And I just felt like putting this video up. I know y'all remember this classic...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgT9ciqdYaE[/media]
But back to more positive things. I did a thread search on a few artists and didn't come up with any results. So I gotta ask...
Anyone here a fan of the Eulorhythmics? http://www.myspace.com/eulorhythmics
How about Giant Panda? http://www.myspace.com/giantpanda
I know somebody here has to be a fan of the Cunninlynguists! http://www.myspace.com/cunninlynguists
And I just felt like putting this video up. I know y'all remember this classic...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgT9ciqdYaE[/media]
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*CunninLynguists fan*
Also, good points, rapsodist.
Also, good points, rapsodist.
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[quote name='fart_bubble']oh snap, a double post
Though it doesn't look like its going to be save, I really wish the goverment would get its head out of its ass and fix the internet radio rates. You have no idea on how badly I want to launch my station (shit, I've had my first week playlist done for a month and a half).[/quote]
Why don't you just do a podcast or something in the meantime.
[quote name='rapsodist']I know somebody here has to be a fan of the Cunninlynguists! http://www.myspace.com/cunninlynguists[/quote]
I listen to A Piece Of Strange all the time in my car. Love that album.
Though it doesn't look like its going to be save, I really wish the goverment would get its head out of its ass and fix the internet radio rates. You have no idea on how badly I want to launch my station (shit, I've had my first week playlist done for a month and a half).[/quote]
Why don't you just do a podcast or something in the meantime.
[quote name='rapsodist']I know somebody here has to be a fan of the Cunninlynguists! http://www.myspace.com/cunninlynguists[/quote]
I listen to A Piece Of Strange all the time in my car. Love that album.
Giant Panda... meh.
the problem with a lot of underground to me is that most doods cant really make good music.
like u got all these mainstreams artists that all sound the same,
then a crap load of underground stuff that all sounds the same too!!
maybe I gotta relisten to a lot of underground stuff and pay closer attention, but a lot of it seriously tends to bore me.
especially now with doods like Reef the Lost Cauze making records, that definitely sets the bar up REAL high for what it takes to be a dope emcee that no body has heard of.
this guy too, I listened to this record this week:
Pumpkinhead! this entire record was produced by Marco Polo in 2005.
I didnt really like Port Authority, but this record was real dope! beats and lyrics, shyt was hot!
the problem with a lot of underground to me is that most doods cant really make good music.
like u got all these mainstreams artists that all sound the same,
then a crap load of underground stuff that all sounds the same too!!
maybe I gotta relisten to a lot of underground stuff and pay closer attention, but a lot of it seriously tends to bore me.
especially now with doods like Reef the Lost Cauze making records, that definitely sets the bar up REAL high for what it takes to be a dope emcee that no body has heard of.
this guy too, I listened to this record this week:
Pumpkinhead! this entire record was produced by Marco Polo in 2005.
I didnt really like Port Authority, but this record was real dope! beats and lyrics, shyt was hot!
[quote name='JEKKI']Giant Panda... meh.
the problem with a lot of underground to me is that most doods cant really make good music.
like u got all these mainstreams artists that all sound the same,
then a crap load of underground stuff that all sounds the same too!!
maybe I gotta relisten to a lot of underground stuff and pay closer attention, but a lot of it seriously tends to bore me.[/quote]
I can understand that Giant Panda's not necessarily A-list but I definitely wouldn't toss'em into the same category as all those oh-I'm-so-underground-hiding-behind-my-lo-fi-junk poseurs. I guess I just take'em for what they are: solid rappers with a laidback SoCal vibe. I won't fault you if you don't like GP though. I got homies who just will not listen to anything underground 'cause "it's boring shit that don't get me hype" and if I can take that from people whose musical tastes I question, I'll concede anything to someone with respectable taste, as evidenced throughout this thread.
I gotta listen to some Reef now. Don't actually know his music at all though I've heard the name.
the problem with a lot of underground to me is that most doods cant really make good music.
like u got all these mainstreams artists that all sound the same,
then a crap load of underground stuff that all sounds the same too!!
maybe I gotta relisten to a lot of underground stuff and pay closer attention, but a lot of it seriously tends to bore me.[/quote]
I can understand that Giant Panda's not necessarily A-list but I definitely wouldn't toss'em into the same category as all those oh-I'm-so-underground-hiding-behind-my-lo-fi-junk poseurs. I guess I just take'em for what they are: solid rappers with a laidback SoCal vibe. I won't fault you if you don't like GP though. I got homies who just will not listen to anything underground 'cause "it's boring shit that don't get me hype" and if I can take that from people whose musical tastes I question, I'll concede anything to someone with respectable taste, as evidenced throughout this thread.
I gotta listen to some Reef now. Don't actually know his music at all though I've heard the name.
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The reason I think the backpacker and underground will be the mainstream is beyond a couple albums, shit isn't selling beyond the backpackers and underground and I just don't see the major labels not noticing that. And lets be honest, its a hell of a lot cheaper to sign a few backpackers than what has been getting released by them. Also now a days, backpacking music is a safer bet than gangster/thug rap.
Now there is a bunch of shit that sounds the same (it happens no matter what the genre is) but I've always been the person to read the lyrics which helps them stand out.
Cool, someone else who knows of Eulorhythmics. You're the only other that I've came across who even knows. Extended Play wasing awesome and he is someone from the All Natural crew I want to break out. I also can't wait for Iomos Marad's new one to come out.
I dig Cunnlynguists. Will Rap For Food is a modern classic for me. There was a few tracks on A Piece Of Strange that felt flat to me.
I've got Giant Panda's album which I like but I've honestly haven't listened to it enough to give a hard stance on if I really like it or not.
Pumpkinhead's Orange Moon Over Brooklyn album is great and I am really glad Rawkus re-released it so more people can check it out, thater was hard as hell to track down last year. And when ever I make a mix, Anthem For The End Of The World is always my last track.
Now there is a bunch of shit that sounds the same (it happens no matter what the genre is) but I've always been the person to read the lyrics which helps them stand out.
Cool, someone else who knows of Eulorhythmics. You're the only other that I've came across who even knows. Extended Play was
ing awesome and he is someone from the All Natural crew I want to break out. I also can't wait for Iomos Marad's new one to come out.I dig Cunnlynguists. Will Rap For Food is a modern classic for me. There was a few tracks on A Piece Of Strange that felt flat to me.
I've got Giant Panda's album which I like but I've honestly haven't listened to it enough to give a hard stance on if I really like it or not.
Pumpkinhead's Orange Moon Over Brooklyn album is great and I am really glad Rawkus re-released it so more people can check it out, that
er was hard as hell to track down last year. And when ever I make a mix, Anthem For The End Of The World is always my last track.
headpiece747
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Another concert I will miss because of my recent move:
Paid Dues Festival
FELT
LIVING LEGENDS
SAGE FRANCIS
BROTHER ALI
CAGE
MR LIF
GROUCH & ELIGH
HANGAR 18
hosted by:
LUCKY I AM
Tour Dates:
Wednesday - 7/25/07 - Chicago, IL
Friday - 7/27/07 - Baltimore, MD
Saturday - 7/28/07 - New York, NY
Sunday - 7/29/07 - New York, NY
Tuesday - 7/31/07 - Minneapolis, MN
Wednesday - 8/1/07 - Minneapolis, MN
Saturday - 8/4/07 - Eugene, OR
Sunday - 8/5/07 - San Francisco, CA
Tuesday - 8/7/07 - Morrison, CO
Thursday - 8/9/07 - Santa Fe, NM
Friday - 8/10/07 - Mesa, AZ
Saturday - 8/11/07 - San Bernardino, CA
Sunday - 8/12/07 - Chula Vista, CA
Paid Dues Festival
FELT
SAGE FRANCIS
BROTHER ALI
CAGE
MR LIF
GROUCH & ELIGH
HANGAR 18
hosted by:
LUCKY I AM
Tour Dates:
Wednesday - 7/25/07 - Chicago, IL
Friday - 7/27/07 - Baltimore, MD
Saturday - 7/28/07 - New York, NY
Sunday - 7/29/07 - New York, NY
Tuesday - 7/31/07 - Minneapolis, MN
Wednesday - 8/1/07 - Minneapolis, MN
Saturday - 8/4/07 - Eugene, OR
Sunday - 8/5/07 - San Francisco, CA
Tuesday - 8/7/07 - Morrison, CO
Thursday - 8/9/07 - Santa Fe, NM
Friday - 8/10/07 - Mesa, AZ
Saturday - 8/11/07 - San Bernardino, CA
Sunday - 8/12/07 - Chula Vista, CA
senorwoohoo
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Paid Dues is gonna be part of Rock the Bells, too, so I can't in' wait for 7/28.
in' wait for 7/28.
headpiece747
CAGiversary!
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Wordsworth vs President Bush
[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=txnD03oVULA[/media]
One of my favorite Freestyle emcee.
[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=txnD03oVULA[/media]
One of my favorite Freestyle emcee.
bread's done