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I don't know if it is the post glow of the sox winning the WS but I am really enjoying this offseason in baseball. It seems that a lot of big trades and signings are happening. Use this thread to discuss. Who else thinks Sexson got way toooo much money?
 
Hey, Seattle needs hitting, and Sexson's a great pickup. Too bad he couldn't help Arizona because of the injury. I'm just hoping Randy Johnson doesn't go to the Yankees. I don't want him to sell his soul for a title. I can handle the Red Sox, but not the Yanks. Especially since they'd make him shave and cut his hair, and that wouldn't look good on Randy.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the SS situation in Cleveland goes, since both candidates deserve it. It's looking good for the Indians to really contend this season, with their pitching getting even better and Wickman back for another season. I can't wait to see where this offseason's FA's go.
 
the red sox are slowly picking up stride. now if they can just get varitek and lowe resigned or get another decent pitcher (signed clement today), they should be alright in the rotation. but i fear the worst when it comes to the yankees and johnson. actually, its begining to look like shawn green is the only hold up in the trade. so hopefully he invokes his no trade clause. damn i hate the yankees
 
for as much as the Yankees have coveted Johnson, I would not doubt it Steinbrenner relaxes that rule for him.

He did for Gossage in 78
 
It's a great time to be living in Wisconsin and looking forward to the Brewers finally turning it around.
They've got an excellent closer and 2004 all-star selection Dan Kolb...oh wait, he got traded. Well, they do have the 2003 rookie of the year and 70 base stealing Scott Podsednik...umm, they traded him too. At least Keith Ginter was showing some power last year and was coming around as a pretty good second baseman...crap, he's gone as well.
I guess I'm going to have to quote the groundskeepers from Major League and say "They're still shitty!"
 
[quote name='jbroush99']It's a great time to be living in Wisconsin and looking forward to the Brewers finally turning it around.
They've got an excellent closer and 2004 all-star selection Dan Kolb...oh wait, he got traded. Well, they do have the 2003 rookie of the year and 70 base stealing Scott Podsednik...umm, they traded him too. At least Keith Ginter was showing some power last year and was coming around as a pretty good second baseman...crap, he's gone as well.
I guess I'm going to have to quote the groundskeepers from Major League and say "They're still shitty!"[/quote]

Thank got Selig is selling that team. Since he became commissioner and gave it to his daughter,that team has been run into the ground.
 
[quote name='jbroush99']It's a great time to be living in Wisconsin and looking forward to the Brewers finally turning it around.
They've got an excellent closer and 2004 all-star selection Dan Kolb...oh wait, he got traded. Well, they do have the 2003 rookie of the year and 70 base stealing Scott Podsednik...umm, they traded him too. At least Keith Ginter was showing some power last year and was coming around as a pretty good second baseman...crap, he's gone as well.
I guess I'm going to have to quote the groundskeepers from Major League and say "They're still shitty!"[/quote]

I liked the trades the Brewers made. Podsednik dropped off a ton in his second year and his OB was terrible and they got a good power hitter to bat between Jenkins and Overbay which should improve their offense. The pitcher they got for Kolb is one of the top minor league prospects. They should be improved this year and in a few years when guys like Fielder and Weeks hit the bigs they might start contending for the playoffs. Good things are already happening now that a new owner is taking over. :D
 
i just wish i had a local team to bash. sucks being in a state without a pro baseball team to criticize. but then again, i'm in between like 5 teams, but i don't really care for any of them except the reds, who seem to be having a fire sale yearly.
 
[quote name='greendj27'][quote name='jbroush99']It's a great time to be living in Wisconsin and looking forward to the Brewers finally turning it around.
They've got an excellent closer and 2004 all-star selection Dan Kolb...oh wait, he got traded. Well, they do have the 2003 rookie of the year and 70 base stealing Scott Podsednik...umm, they traded him too. At least Keith Ginter was showing some power last year and was coming around as a pretty good second baseman...crap, he's gone as well.
I guess I'm going to have to quote the groundskeepers from Major League and say "They're still shitty!"[/quote]

I liked the trades the Brewers made. Podsednik dropped off a ton in his second year and his OB was terrible and they got a good power hitter to bat between Jenkins and Overbay which should improve their offense. The pitcher they got for Kolb is one of the top minor league prospects. They should be improved this year and in a few years when guys like Fielder and Weeks hit the bigs they might start contending for the playoffs. Good things are already happening now that a new owner is taking over. :D[/quote]

Good to see at least one person is excited about the 2005 Brewers team. I applaud your optimism!
 
how about them natio...oh whats that, a hold up in the city council, no team in DC? could it be.

*crosses fingers*

if thats the case, then i'd be all over a nationals hat soon, but who knows it could brighten up and turn out the way it was originally planned.
 
Hmmm how bout dem mets

Just hear the potential lineup that could be happening
1. Matsui
2. Reyes
3. Ramirez
4. Delgado
5. Alou
6. Piazza
7. Cameron
8. Piazza
9. Pitcher
Dude Cameron and PIazza in the bottom now thats crazy..
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']the red sox are slowly picking up stride. now if they can just get varitek and lowe resigned or get another decent pitcher (signed clement today), they should be alright in the rotation. but i fear the worst when it comes to the yankees and johnson. actually, its begining to look like shawn green is the only hold up in the trade. so hopefully he invokes his no trade clause. damn i hate the yankees[/quote]

teck should be priority one to sign in my book. Lowe can go as far as im concerned. Schilling, Clement, Wakefield, Arroyo and Wells is a solid rotation. Halama can fill in as a starter as well. Clement had a better ERA than Pedro last year his record was subpar because he didn't get good run support
 
...and they'd still fall apart. I don't know why good players still go there and think they can come out smelling like a rose. They're cursed, that has to be why they fall flat on their faces.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']for as much as the Yankees have coveted Johnson, I would not doubt it Steinbrenner relaxes that rule for him.

He did for Gossage in 78[/quote]

Georgie is so desperate he may even grow out his own hair to land Johnson.
 
Clement is so erratic at times tho...he isnt is as consistent as Pedro....also the sox have to give up alot for him because the cubs dont have much after Zambrano prior and wood...
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']Clement is so erratic at times tho...he isnt is as consistent as Pedro....also the sox have to give up alot for him because the cubs dont have much after Zambrano prior and wood...[/quote]

Pedro throws out some horrible games as well. Another thing I noticed about pedro is that the more times a team faces him the better they hit him. Not only did the Yanks start hitting him the Devil rays and the orioles were hitting him as well. So him switching leagues was probably good for him plus facing a pitcher every 9th batter helps.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']Clement is so erratic at times tho...he isnt is as consistent as Pedro....also the sox have to give up alot for him because the cubs dont have much after Zambrano prior and wood...[/quote]

he is a free agent and has been signed according to Peter Gammons

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1948656

The Cubs still have the best rotation in baseball (funny how everyone gives that honor to the Yanks and the Braves because Wood and Prior were hurt). If they can shore up their bullpen and bring in another bat, they will be awesome (I am hoping Nomar is healthy thoughout the season and plays for a large contract)
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='integralsmatic']Clement is so erratic at times tho...he isnt is as consistent as Pedro....also the sox have to give up alot for him because the cubs dont have much after Zambrano prior and wood...[/quote]

he is a free agent and has been signed according to Peter Gammons

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1948656

The Cubs still have the best rotation in baseball (funny how everyone gives that honor to the Yanks and the Braves because Wood and Prior were hurt). If they can shore up their bullpen and bring in another bat, they will be awesome (I am hoping Nomar is healthy thoughout the season and plays for a large contract)[/quote]

Nomar hasn't been the same since he hurt his forearm. The pop isn't in his bat like it used to be
 
yeah, i hate the fact that pedro is gone and the shit he said today, but thats baseball and i'll accept it. will they be a better team without him, i think so. the have a solid rotation without him and although clement is erratic, they've got a solid bullpen to get him out of jams. will they repeat, i think its possible, but it'll take some work, and that starts with securing varitek, cuz their screwed without him.

edit: these are just my opinions. some take them how you will
 
[quote name='jlarlee'][quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='integralsmatic']Clement is so erratic at times tho...he isnt is as consistent as Pedro....also the sox have to give up alot for him because the cubs dont have much after Zambrano prior and wood...[/quote]

he is a free agent and has been signed according to Peter Gammons

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1948656

The Cubs still have the best rotation in baseball (funny how everyone gives that honor to the Yanks and the Braves because Wood and Prior were hurt). If they can shore up their bullpen and bring in another bat, they will be awesome (I am hoping Nomar is healthy thoughout the season and plays for a large contract)[/quote]

Nomar hasn't been the same since he hurt his forearm. The pop isn't in his bat like it used to be[/quote]

I know he is not the same, but if he puts up decent numbers, and is at least 90 percent back to normal, I think the Cubs could win the series (they are so close to being there, and if healthy the whole year, they have an amazing shot))
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']yeah, i hate the fact that pedro is gone and the shit he said today, but thats baseball and i'll accept it. will they be a better team without him, i think so. the have a solid rotation without him and although clement is erratic, they've got a solid bullpen to get him out of jams. will they repeat, i think its possible, but it'll take some work, and that starts with securing varitek, cuz their screwed without him.

edit: these are just my opinions. some take them how you will[/quote]

pedro really showed his lack of class today. I for one will be glad to hear the end of his special treatment he gets
 
it was unprofessional on pedros part to do that, but it happens all too often in sports these days. how theo handled it was a class act. i'm sure hes pissed at the way pedro dissed the sox, but he didn't show it. i hope pedro has a horrible year and the sox do well without him (w/ or w/o him, i'd hope the sox did well)
 
[quote name='cyberlian']Another Division Championship for the Braves? Anyone?[/quote]

They still have to deal with the Marlins, but it will be a good race
 
as far as the braves are concerned, they deserve much respect. winning a division consecutively for 13 years is quite a feat. i am not sure of another such streak in pro sports, but if there is, it would be just as astounding as this. the braves in my book, are a great organization.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback'][quote name='integralsmatic']Clement is so erratic at times tho...he isnt is as consistent as Pedro....also the sox have to give up alot for him because the cubs dont have much after Zambrano prior and wood...[/quote]

he is a free agent and has been signed according to Peter Gammons

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1948656

The Cubs still have the best rotation in baseball (funny how everyone gives that honor to the Yanks and the Braves because Wood and Prior were hurt). If they can shore up their bullpen and bring in another bat, they will be awesome (I am hoping Nomar is healthy thoughout the season and plays for a large contract)[/quote]

I used to be able to say that my A's had 1 of the better rotations in baseball but after watching Billy Beane dismantle them in 2 days it's kind of hard to say that now. Zito was the only guy struggling the last couple of years and they keep him and trade the rest. Wow! Sad day if your an A's fan.
 
Cards picked up Mulder today. With Morris, Carpenter, Suppan, and Marquis thats a starting five that each won at least 15 games last year. I think that best rotation in baseball arguement may need to be revisited. Once the middle infield situation is sured up St. Louis will be the best team in the NL again.
 
well, its not like the cardinals weren't the best team in the nl this year anyways. and they "only" lost renteria, which will probably be replaced by cabrerra. as for the A's, wow is all I can say. Watch them go and trade Zito tomorrow or something.
 
I am consistently shocked by the talent drain from the Nl to the AL. It's pretty disturbing really. The best free agents the NL got are a trio of pitchers, one of which was a horrible signing (Sorry, Pedro will not last the 4 years as a Met).

The Braves are foolish to meddle with their bullpen. Smoltz won't last the year healthy, and Kolb is anything but intimidating as a closer.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Suppan is the odd man out of the Cards' rotation come Spring time. robdees forgot to include Woody Williams in that list.
 
Never question my Cardinals knowledge peterjsparks!! :) See, Woody got released a few weeks ago and picked up by the Padres (within 3 hours). Suppan will probably be the odd man out, but not till next year when his contract takes a significant jump in salary. We also lost Matheny to the Giants last week, a guy that I think was critical to the Cards sucess over the last few years. I'm sure Molina will do a great job, but Matheny's leadership will be missed. The Cards also gave up some decent pitching talent to get Mulder, though it was still a great trade. I'd like to see Cabrera and Placido Palanco (sp?) come it to fill the middle. I love December baseball!!!
 
[quote name='greendj27']I liked the trades the Brewers made. Podsednik dropped off a ton in his second year and his OB was terrible and they got a good power hitter to bat between Jenkins and Overbay which should improve their offense. The pitcher they got for Kolb is one of the top minor league prospects. They should be improved this year and in a few years when guys like Fielder and Weeks hit the bigs they might start contending for the playoffs. Good things are already happening now that a new owner is taking over. :D[/quote]

I agree, as I liked 2 out of the 3 trades. Ginter was expendable and not a big deal. Trading Podsednik was great too, Im surprised they were able to get a threat like Lee and were willing to take on more salary in the process. He will be an improvement over Scott offensively. The only one I didn't really like it the Kolb deal. I'm not sold on that prospect. Sure, he can rip it 100 mph, but that's about it. He will be 24 when spring training hits, so his window for improving and being considered a prospect is already closing. That being said, it was not necessarily a bad time to move Kolb. It would have only made sense to keep him if they wanted to invest into him and since he played a bit over his head last season, I think his contract would have been too inflated and Milwaukee knew it. Good guy and good closer though.
 
[quote name='peterjsparks']I wouldn't be surprised if Suppan is the odd man out of the Cards' rotation come Spring time. robdees forgot to include Woody Williams in that list.[/quote]

Woddy Williams signed with San Diego. So, no, he didn't forget to include him.
 
[quote name='robdees']Never question my Cardinals knowledge peterjsparks!! :) See, Woody got released a few weeks ago and picked up by the Padres (within 3 hours). Suppan will probably be the odd man out, but not till next year when his contract takes a significant jump in salary. We also lost Matheny to the Giants last week, a guy that I think was critical to the Cards sucess over the last few years. I'm sure Molina will do a great job, but Matheny's leadership will be missed. The Cards also gave up some decent pitching talent to get Mulder, though it was still a great trade. I'd like to see Cabrera and Placido Palanco (sp?) come it to fill the middle. I love December baseball!!![/quote]

Matheny won't be missed enough to have matched the offer the Giants gave him. It was a good move to let him go and give the reigns to Molina. It's his time and he definately is more talented than Matheny. Let's just see if he can manage the staff as well.

The Cards raped the A's though. Haren isn't as good as StL has always been touting him to be. He was your best pitching prospect, but that's almost as bad as saying you are the best pitching prospect for the Yankees. OK, it's not that bad, but I'm still not a huge Haren fan. He can become a middle of the rotation starter, but he just doesn't have the goods to be a top guy. Kiko was a nice guy in the pen, but you don't let nice bullpen guys come in the way of a starting ace. The catching prospect is the one that could end up hurting the most, especially in a few years when he is ready for the bigs and if Molina hasn't stepped up his game as expected. Still a great deal for StL though.
 
The Renteria signing was brilliant because it frees up our top prospect, a SS, for a trade. Hanley Ramirez was going to be the future long term shortstop, but Renteria is only 28, and you can't get too much better than him. With Hanley Ramirez as the centerpiece of a trade, we should be able to get a very good starting pitcher, either this offseason or around the trade deadline.

A.J. Burnett's name is floating around... Ben Sheets could be a possibility around the trade deadline, Milwaukee will never sign him. It would be nice to screw the Yankees out of Randy Johnson, but how many 40 year olds can you have on the same pitching staff. Arizona doesn't want what we have anyway.

Matt Clement was a good signing but I don't see him as anything more than a #3.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']The Renteria signing was brilliant because it frees up our top prospect, a SS, for a trade. Hanley Ramirez was going to be the future long term shortstop, but Renteria is only 28, and you can't get too much better than him. With Hanley Ramirez as the centerpiece of a trade, we should be able to get a very good starting pitcher, either this offseason or around the trade deadline.

A.J. Burnett's name is floating around... Ben Sheets could be a possibility around the trade deadline, Milwaukee will never sign him. It would be nice to screw the Yankees out of Randy Johnson, but how many 40 year olds can you have on the same pitching staff. Arizona doesn't want what we have anyway.

Matt Clement was a good signing but I don't see him as anything more than a #3.[/quote]

I would rather have Burnett or especially Sheets over RJ anyways. I also think Clement will surprise you. He's no ace, but I think he will be a nice #2 for Boston if given the chance.
 
[quote name='TheRaven'][quote name='dafoomie']The Renteria signing was brilliant because it frees up our top prospect, a SS, for a trade. Hanley Ramirez was going to be the future long term shortstop, but Renteria is only 28, and you can't get too much better than him. With Hanley Ramirez as the centerpiece of a trade, we should be able to get a very good starting pitcher, either this offseason or around the trade deadline.

A.J. Burnett's name is floating around... Ben Sheets could be a possibility around the trade deadline, Milwaukee will never sign him. It would be nice to screw the Yankees out of Randy Johnson, but how many 40 year olds can you have on the same pitching staff. Arizona doesn't want what we have anyway.

Matt Clement was a good signing but I don't see him as anything more than a #3.[/quote]

I would rather have Burnett or especially Sheets over RJ anyways. I also think Clement will surprise you. He's no ace, but I think he will be a nice #2 for Boston if given the chance.[/quote]
I like Clement a lot, but he's one of those pitchers with "control issues". He walks a lot of people. He'll be a very nice #3, but to compete with the Yankees, you need 2 #1's. I like Burnett a lot too, Schilling would be good for him, as would some better coaching, he hasn't had a good pitching coach or good instruction with the Marlins.

I like this rotation:
Schilling
? (future aquisition like Burnett, Sheets, etc)
Clement
Wells
Arroyo

A lot more than this (as of today):
Schilling
Clement
Wells
Arroyo
Halama or Kim

Plus Schilling will miss all of April. We need another starter right away.
 
[quote name='jbroush99'][quote name='greendj27'][quote name='jbroush99']It's a great time to be living in Wisconsin and looking forward to the Brewers finally turning it around.
They've got an excellent closer and 2004 all-star selection Dan Kolb...oh wait, he got traded. Well, they do have the 2003 rookie of the year and 70 base stealing Scott Podsednik...umm, they traded him too. At least Keith Ginter was showing some power last year and was coming around as a pretty good second baseman...crap, he's gone as well.
I guess I'm going to have to quote the groundskeepers from Major League and say "They're still shitty!"[/quote]

I liked the trades the Brewers made. Podsednik dropped off a ton in his second year and his OB was terrible and they got a good power hitter to bat between Jenkins and Overbay which should improve their offense. The pitcher they got for Kolb is one of the top minor league prospects. They should be improved this year and in a few years when guys like Fielder and Weeks hit the bigs they might start contending for the playoffs. Good things are already happening now that a new owner is taking over. :D[/quote]

Good to see at least one person is excited about the 2005 Brewers team. I applaud your optimism![/quote]

At least you have Ben Sheets. Looking forward for the Red Sox trading for him sometime in midseason :wink:
 
shit as long as the red sox get varitek resigned, then they should be alright. yeah they need to get another starter, but other than that, they're pretty stacked. what other team has 3 1B that could start on just about any other team, that are willing to come off the bench when they are needed. mienkitwz(sp) is a top line 1B and he doesn't mind coming off the bench, atleast right now.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']shit as long as the red sox get varitek resigned, then they should be alright. yeah they need to get another starter, but other than that, they're pretty stacked. what other team has 3 1B that could start on just about any other team, that are willing to come off the bench when they are needed. mienkitwz(sp) is a top line 1B and he doesn't mind coming off the bench, atleast right now.[/quote]
Millar or Mientkiewicz will be traded before spring training, probably for relief pitching or low level prospects.
 
fuck winter baseball. God damn Dodgers. Win the NL West and then want to get rid of everyone who got them there. Bunch of idiots. Yes lets let Beltre, Green (potentially) Lima and Finley go. They better have one hell of a plan if they are going to pull that crap.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']Hmmm how bout dem mets

Just hear the potential lineup that could be happening
1. Matsui
2. Reyes
3. Ramirez
4. Delgado
5. Alou
6. Piazza
7. Cameron
8. Piazza
9. Pitcher
Dude Cameron and PIazza in the bottom now thats crazy..[/quote]

Yeah I suppose you could have Piazza bat twice couldn't you?
 
Well Twins are looking like they might be in a bit of trouble next season. Guzman, Koskie, and Blanco are gone through free agency, and we still have to sign Jacque Jones, Romero, Santana, Lohshe, Lecroy, and we might be screwed in the middle infield. Cuddyer will have to play 3rd to replace Koskie and we have no decent shortstops available right now to play. For SS it will either be Jason Bartlett whos just a AAA SS, Juan Castro who was a FA pickup from the Reds, or Nick Punto. Then if they can't sign Jones were pretty screwed because that would mean the outfield would probly have to have Lew Ford as everyday making a open DH spot for us. Oh well, at least we signed C Mike Redmond. Right?
 
[quote name='tyecko'][quote name='integralsmatic']Hmmm how bout dem mets

Just hear the potential lineup that could be happening
1. Matsui
2. Reyes
3. Ramirez
4. Delgado
5. Alou
6. Piazza
7. Cameron
8. Piazza
9. Pitcher
Dude Cameron and PIazza in the bottom now thats crazy..[/quote]

Yeah I suppose you could have Piazza bat twice couldn't you?[/quote]

Maybe he can start hitting again the second time around.
He really needs to go to the AL so he can DH everyday.
 
[quote name='dafoomie'][quote name='TheRaven'][quote name='dafoomie']The Renteria signing was brilliant because it frees up our top prospect, a SS, for a trade. Hanley Ramirez was going to be the future long term shortstop, but Renteria is only 28, and you can't get too much better than him. With Hanley Ramirez as the centerpiece of a trade, we should be able to get a very good starting pitcher, either this offseason or around the trade deadline.

A.J. Burnett's name is floating around... Ben Sheets could be a possibility around the trade deadline, Milwaukee will never sign him. It would be nice to screw the Yankees out of Randy Johnson, but how many 40 year olds can you have on the same pitching staff. Arizona doesn't want what we have anyway.

Matt Clement was a good signing but I don't see him as anything more than a #3.[/quote]

I would rather have Burnett or especially Sheets over RJ anyways. I also think Clement will surprise you. He's no ace, but I think he will be a nice #2 for Boston if given the chance.[/quote]
I like Clement a lot, but he's one of those pitchers with "control issues". He walks a lot of people. He'll be a very nice #3, but to compete with the Yankees, you need 2 #1's. I like Burnett a lot too, Schilling would be good for him, as would some better coaching, he hasn't had a good pitching coach or good instruction with the Marlins.

I like this rotation:
Schilling
? (future aquisition like Burnett, Sheets, etc)
Clement
Wells
Arroyo

A lot more than this (as of today):
Schilling
Clement
Wells
Arroyo
Halama or Kim

Plus Schilling will miss all of April. We need another starter right away.[/quote]

hey you forgot someone. Wakefield is in the mix there somewhere too he at least ranks higher than Kim/Halama. he would rather start and i think he is good for the rotation especially back to back with someone who throws hard
 
Here is my take on the offseason.
AL-Angles, Yankees and Red Sox have seem to do what it takes to stay at the top or get back to the top. Should be another great year in the AL East. Hopefully both rotations can hold up.
A's have killed themselves. If Beane is as smart as everyone says, now is the time to prove it.
NL-Braves and well can't see anybody else who had a great offseason.
Dodgers and Mets both shot themselves in the foot. Dodgers got rid of a lot of talent. Picking up JD Drew and two more frontline starters could help. Mets, have you not learned with Mo Vaugh, Mike Cameron, and the list goes on and on. Pedro will be a flop.
 
[quote name='jlarlee'][quote name='dafoomie'][quote name='TheRaven'][quote name='dafoomie']The Renteria signing was brilliant because it frees up our top prospect, a SS, for a trade. Hanley Ramirez was going to be the future long term shortstop, but Renteria is only 28, and you can't get too much better than him. With Hanley Ramirez as the centerpiece of a trade, we should be able to get a very good starting pitcher, either this offseason or around the trade deadline.

A.J. Burnett's name is floating around... Ben Sheets could be a possibility around the trade deadline, Milwaukee will never sign him. It would be nice to screw the Yankees out of Randy Johnson, but how many 40 year olds can you have on the same pitching staff. Arizona doesn't want what we have anyway.

Matt Clement was a good signing but I don't see him as anything more than a #3.[/quote]

I would rather have Burnett or especially Sheets over RJ anyways. I also think Clement will surprise you. He's no ace, but I think he will be a nice #2 for Boston if given the chance.[/quote]
I like Clement a lot, but he's one of those pitchers with "control issues". He walks a lot of people. He'll be a very nice #3, but to compete with the Yankees, you need 2 #1's. I like Burnett a lot too, Schilling would be good for him, as would some better coaching, he hasn't had a good pitching coach or good instruction with the Marlins.

I like this rotation:
Schilling
? (future aquisition like Burnett, Sheets, etc)
Clement
Wells
Arroyo

A lot more than this (as of today):
Schilling
Clement
Wells
Arroyo
Halama or Kim

Plus Schilling will miss all of April. We need another starter right away.[/quote]

hey you forgot someone. Wakefield is in the mix there somewhere too he at least ranks higher than Kim/Halama. he would rather start and i think he is good for the rotation especially back to back with someone who throws hard[/quote]
Hmm, dunno how I missed Wakefield... Swap out Arroyo and put Wakefield in the top one, because Arroyo will probably be traded if we get Burnett. On the second one, put Wake in front of Arroyo.

I think its because I'm thinking W for Wells that I missed him, weird.
 
I dunno what is up with the A's it is like they had their own personal black friday sale or something. Of the big three they had the only one they still have is the shakiest of the 3. Although Zito being a lefty makes him more valuable than a righty with comparable skills. The Angels made the move of the offseason IMO Finley is a great CF.
 
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